And from this website, a Jewish interpretation of Ps 22:http://www.kosherjudaism.com/tehillim22humor.htmlMuch as I disagree w/ the denial that this is a fulfillment of prophecy concerning Christ, their interpretation helps me to even appreciate the Lord Jesus so much more. When he could have “cussed and died” he rather exhorted, encouraged the…[Read more]

So hopefully, WJ, we'll explore what the New Testament (2nd Covenant) means by Ps 33:6-7, if that does not mean the Christ or the means by which GOD made the worlds.I am not willing to construct such a case without the 1st Covenant, though… because we need to be able to see their references.So far, it's led to my realizing that there are two…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 09 2007,15:23)Cubes, I believe you are sincere. I dont believe you are 100% sure of your belief.I think you may have trouble sleeping at night.I hope not, and I hope you do not lean further left to being Unitarian.For you will need to buy a lot of white out for the many scriptures that will have to be tossed or…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 09 2007,11:58)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 09 2007,06:50)Quote (Cubes @ May 09 2007,06:30)Thank you, t8.Hi All,I'd like us to consider something that AP brought up regarding the LXX manuscript (Greek OT) which I was not aware of.  Apparently, there is a Hebrew manuscript that reads Psalm 102 differently, from the…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 07 2007,20:56)Quote Thanks WJ & CB,I first considered Heb 1:10-13 as applying to Jesus sometime in 2005 I think, when Is presented it to me…I read Ps 102 and the leap I could make was that 102:24b MUST be YHWH speaking reassuringly to his Son who in the same verse called on his GOD, saying, “O my God, Do not take me…[Read more]

Thank you, t8.Hi All,I'd like us to consider something that AP brought up regarding the LXX manuscript (Greek OT) which I was not aware of. Apparently, there is a Hebrew manuscript that reads Psalm 102 differently, from the LXX. It would appear that the KJV Hebrew 1:10f text is influenced by the LXX version of Psalm 102, leading to the…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 06 2007,22:17)Quote (Cubes @ May 06 2007,04:37)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 03 2007,08:54)Quote (Cubes @ May 03 2007,02:06)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 01 2007,16:46)Quote (Cubes @ May 01 2007,10:44)WJ, (from topic/thread: Inference page 13),You brought this up so I thought to address it here.Let me first say that I…[Read more]

According to Psalm 22, a prophetic messianic Psalm concerning Yeshua: the messiah is clearly NOT YHWHand YHWH is NOT the messiah. Why then do the rules change w/ Psalm 102?Psalm 22#Psa 22:1 PSALM 22 To the Chief Musician. Set to “The Deer of the Dawn.”# A Psalm of David. MY God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?Why are You so far from helping…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 03 2007,08:54)Quote (Cubes @ May 03 2007,02:06)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 01 2007,16:46)Quote (Cubes @ May 01 2007,10:44)WJ, (from topic/thread: Inference page 13),You brought this up so I thought to address it here.Let me first say that I am not entirely sure who the speaker is, however, on the assumption that it…[Read more]

WJ,Thx for your response. I hope to respond during the weekend.Be well.

Quote (david @ May 01 2007,19:05)Hi cubes.  I'm not completely certain what your plan was for this thread, but I imagine it's already fallen apart.  So I'm just going to post “whatever” as most I believe are probably doing.Hi Dave,Not a problem. Whatever works best for all.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 01 2007,16:46)Quote (Cubes @ May 01 2007,10:44)WJ, (from topic/thread: Inference page 13),You brought this up so I thought to address it here.Let me first say that I am not entirely sure who the speaker is, however, on the assumption that it is the Father speaking to the son, I would say that Hebrews 1:10 can NOT mean…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 01 2007,09:18)So did Yeshau create all things? You bet ya.Party 1 says I am going to build a house. So party 1 has party 2 the contractor build the house.Party 1 says I built a house. Party 1 did build a house “through” the contractor.But by your logic party 2 didnt build the house.So play with words if you want but…[Read more]

WJ, (from topic/thread: Inference page 13),You brought this up so I thought to address it here.Let me first say that I am not entirely sure who the speaker is, however, on the assumption that it is the Father speaking to the son, I would say that Hebrews 1:10 can NOT mean to equate Lord w/ YHWH , as this violates Psalm 102 itself and so one must…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 01 2007,12:26)Quote (Cubes @ May 01 2007,06:13)I hope this thread would be in the format of an Instant Messaging dialogue, where a premise is made, and from then on, the dialogue is PRIMARILY done through scripture answering, interpreting, refuting, correcting or affirming the original premise.  The goal hopefully is…[Read more]

WJ,I think it's time we focused on the first covenant to interpret the second covenant: I like that you brought in the Genesis verse regarding “let us create man in our image…” It's a good place to begin and work our way forward. Please see my new thread: precept upon precept, line upon line…which I hope to create to address some of your…

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 30 2007,23:24)Quote (Cubes @ April 29 2007,07:24)Jhn 1:3   All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.  Jhn 1:10   He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. Jhn 1:17   For the law was given by Moses, grace and truth came by Jesus Chr…[Read more]

Jhn 1:3   All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.  Jhn 1:10   He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. Jhn 1:17   For the law was given by Moses, grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.  The laws and commandments would seem to have been the creation of Moses, ther…[Read more]

Hi Not3,Here are links to related threads you might find of interest, in case you haven't yet seen them:For what it's worth, I believe that we are to pursue peace at every opportunity. However, there's a time for everything under the sun: a time to embrace, and a time to keep from embracing, if you know what I…[Read more]

WJ,As I said, we disagree.May GOD open your understanding to behold his magnificent and glorious presence and to know his beloved son as he would be known. I hope you have a Damascus experience. Amen.