Michael of the revelation that John was given on Patmos is our creator brother, he incarnate as Jesus. The reference to the “war in heaven” was about the Lucifer rebellion. The battle was won by Jesus while he was on the earth. The devil was defeated.

My theology comes from the Urantia revelation which covers much more of these truths in detail.

Grasshopper, it is said that even the hairs on our head are numbered, so I think God or any other being in heaven can tell the difference between Michael an archangel an Christ Michael.

…29″Are not two sparrows sold for a cent? And yet not one of them will fall to the ground apart from your Father. 30″But the very hairs of your head are all n…[Read more]

I believe the Son is an eternal, divine spiritual being of the order of Creator Sons. Angels are of a distinct class of created beings.

I don’t know what is wrong with this web site, I can see Wakeup replies in the “latest topics” section but not on the thread itself. I get emails to moderate but I’m not a moderator, Its weird!

But anyway, Wakeup, your holier than everyone else, your way is the only way, is still just more silliness. According to the “scripture” before Moses…[Read more]

Gene, the Michal of revelation is not called an Archangel. People just assume they are the same.

The Michael of Numbers is not called an archangel:

Numbers 13:13

from the tribe of Asher, Sethur the son of Michael;

Its not enough to provide proof using only the limited Bible books for the name pre-existing before Jesus came down from heaven,…[Read more]

Gene, the Michal of revelation is not called an Archangel. People just assume they are the same.

The Michael of Numbers is not called an archangel:

Numbers 13:13

from the tribe of Asher, Sethur the son of Michael;

Its not enough o provide proof for the name pre-existing before Jesus came down from heaven, but then again some here don’t even…[Read more]

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We don’t know God the Fathers true name, but we do know the name of Michael who came to earth and overcame the devil.

No! Michael of Revelation is Not an archangel, that was my position from the beginning, it was the very reason that you responded to me, so cut thus prosecutorial crap about how I’m dodging your question!

The books used to make the Catholics bible say different things at different times. The surviving fragments of the book of revelation tell of…[Read more]

Michael in Hebrew means “Who is like God”? The name Michael first appears as a proper name in the the Bible in Numbers and Chronicles, then an Archangel named Michael appears in Daniel. In the BOR it’s just Michael.

Jesus had legions of angels at his disposal, the demons were subservient to him as well. He had the power to lay down his life and take it up again. As the Son he created the angels and the earth, so I don’t understand this argument that you present about how Jesus aka Michael could only be an archangel if he had command of angels?

For me it’s better than the convoluted bible and the billions of different opinions about what it says.

It’s bad news for you, for me it’s better than the convoluted bible and the billions of differ opinions about what it says.

7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his…[Read more]

No, I’m just a disciple of Jesus, I don’t go to church. The Urantia revelation is my guide. Some things in the books that the Roman church used to make the Bible have value as well.

No, I believe Jesus was simply Michael the creator Son. While on earth he was Jesus, he went back to Heaven and is now known as Christ Michael.

The Jews had a belief that an archangel named Michael was their overseer.

Terrarcicca, the Michael of the Book of Revelation is NOT referred to as an archangel or the archangel of Daniel.

Like Michael Jorden was a basket ball player, we don’t just assume that he was the archangel of Daniel.

Michael is in the book of revelation, he and his angels battled the devil and his angels. The devil was above man, brilliant according to Izaiah, he dared to fool the whole world.

Christ ascended into heaven with all power and authority given to him.

If you have a rational mind and can think for yourself you can figure it out on your own.

Chris

In my belief God (the existential personification of the I AM) delegates authority in his divine Sons who are the creators or “Fathers” of their respective universes. Jesus, aka Christ Michael, is our creator brother.

God delegates power and authority, else the devil could not have had such power and authority to abuse after he fell into sin and…[Read more]

He is Michael, he sent Gabriel to tell his soon to be earth mother Mary what his Jewish name would be while on earth. He has now returned to heaven and is known among his many inhabited worlds as “Christ Michael”. Some 50 years after he returned to his place in heaven, his apostle John was given a revelation while in exile on Patmos. Within the…[Read more]