Quote That was in no way an answer to my question so once againDo you agree that in Rank/Degree Jesus is not equal to “Father”?Also, If a portion of a unit is not equal to the whole of itself how can that unit be indivisible?Do You see, If the Father gives ALL authority to the son it would not include the authority of the Father who gave it to him…[Read more]

Bodhitharta,This s the answer to your question from the UB:1. Self-Distribution of the First Source and Center(108.4) 10:1.1 It would seem that the Father, back in eternity, inaugurated a policy of profound self-distribution. There is inherent in the selfless, loving, and lovable nature of the Universal Father something which causes him to reserve…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 15 2013,13:31)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 14 2013,19:26)Fair enough, I just completely disagree with your depiction of the identity of Jesus as a man.Jesus is no longer a human being, Colter.  He is, in Biblical terminology, a god.  (Many spirit sons of God are called gods in scripture.)It's just that he is not the MOST HIGH g…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 15 2013,12:53)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 15 2013,12:34)Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 15 2013,12:24)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 15 2013,12:17)Quote (t8 @ Aug. 15 2013,11:17)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 15 2013,13:03)I've never said that Jesus was God the Father-(the first source and center) Jesus is the Son of God (thats not being a Son of…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 15 2013,12:22)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 15 2013,10:10)One has to wonder, Had you guys been Jews, if all of you would have rejected Jesus based on the same thick headed arguments? Wakeup would be out in the crowd screaming like a lunatic “crucify him”!!!!! t8 would play the part of Caiaphas, Mike would be Pilate, reasonable,…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 15 2013,12:24)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 15 2013,12:17)Quote (t8 @ Aug. 15 2013,11:17)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 15 2013,13:03)I've never said that Jesus was God the Father-(the first source and center) Jesus is the Son of God (thats not being a Son of himself) he is a personification of the Father, he was with the Father in the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 15 2013,12:11)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 14 2013,18:48)You don't understand the Trinity of the UB, if you took the time to you would see that They are all one in divinity. So you are left with a temporary man God, that's why the Jews think you are an idiot.The Catholic trinity is the same.  “They are three, but one in divinity”…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 15 2013,11:17)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 15 2013,13:03)I've never said that Jesus was God the Father-(the first source and center) Jesus is the Son of God (thats not being a Son of himself) he is a personification of the Father, he was with the Father in the begining, in eternity.You missed the point.God Jesus and the Spirit means that…[Read more]

Put it this way, When Satan began his rebellion against the Father concept in heaven, if he went to Jesus and asked the same question as Philip “show us the Father” Satan would have essentially received the same answer from Jesus “if you have seen me you have seen the Father, I am in the Father and the Father is in me.”For Satan it was also a…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 15 2013,11:45)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 14 2013,17:10)Mike would be Pilate, reasonable, unsure, not wanting the blood on his hands, try to avoid it but in the end……a cave in.   Colter, I can only believe what I read in the scriptures.  And the scriptures teach of one God and Creator of all things………… and his s…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 15 2013,11:40)Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 14 2013,14:49)THE DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY,IS *PROOF* THAT THE MYSTERY HAS NOT BEEN REVEALED TO THEM.It's also proof that the UB is flawed……… because it seems to also support the nonsensical notion of a triune Godhead.We have one God, the Father.  Jesus is the Son of that one God -…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 15 2013,11:17)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 15 2013,13:03)I've never said that Jesus was God the Father-(the first source and center) Jesus is the Son of God (thats not being a Son of himself) he is a personification of the Father, he was with the Father in the begining, in eternity.You missed the point.God Jesus and the Spirit means that…[Read more]

One has to wonder, Had you guys been Jews, if all of you would have rejected Jesus based on the same thick headed arguments? Wakeup would be out in the crowd screaming like a lunatic “crucify him”!!!!! t8 would play the part of Caiaphas, Mike would be Pilate, reasonable, unsure, not wanting the blood on his hands, try to avoid it but in the…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 15 2013,09:08)Now for 3 witness scriptures that clearly show that the Bible does not teach Jesus as God himself.yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through(Remember, “Let us make man in our image”?)Now…[Read more]

I don't think I answered your question though. The answer is NO, Lucifer attempted to be “God of this world” be he couldn't. Even brilliant being fall in love with themselves and do stupid things. Lucifer, Satan, nor the beasts were EVER God of this world although they did a lot of damage to Gods plan of slow evolution and spiritual revelation.…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 15 2013,05:47)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 15 2013,00:38)Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 14 2013,16:37)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 14 2013,12:58)What about the gluttony after the fasting, does that make you vulnerable to the Satan God? ColterBy the way, what is the Satan God? There is no such thing that I know of is this more knowledge from…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 14 2013,15:06)Wow Colter; I am not hateful.I must have touched a raw nerve.wakeup.You are infested with the Jews arrogance; you refer to people as dogs. Colter

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 14 2013,16:37)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 14 2013,12:58)What about the gluttony after the fasting, does that make you vulnerable to the Satan God? ColterBy the way, what is the Satan God? There is no such thing that I know of is this more knowledge from the celestial beings of the Urantia Book?Many Christians believe that Satan…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 14 2013,14:35)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 14 2013,12:55)I find Wakeups Trinity amusing. There is the Satan God, the Father God, and the floating spaceman Jesus God. Even Arius would be astonished by That.   ColterColter.You said wakeup's TRINITY??I dont believe in any trinity.*This is what I believe*: I AM GOD,AND THERE IS NONE…[Read more]

“It has always been difficult to understand the personal nature of a God who has no personal relationships in equality with other and co-ordinate personal beings. Personality in Deity demands that such Deity exist in relation to other and equal personal Deity.”…..THE Paradise Trinity of eternal Deities facilitates the Father’s escape from p…[Read more]