Tarrarica,  Your claim boils down to Jesus mislead people.

Jesus has always been in the Father, and the Father in him from eternity to eternity.

6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and…[Read more]

Tarrarica,  Your claim boils down to Jesus mislead people.

Jesus has always been in the Father, and the Father in him from eternity to eternity.

6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and…[Read more]

T8, Its in the scripture, its just that you pick the occasions that appear to support your assertions and ignore those that don’t. Its not just a fringe that sees what I see, billions of people read the same Bible you do and see the Son coming down from heaven, teaching and returning to heaven as Lord and God.

You suffer from what is known as…[Read more]

Its like he spent a lot of time reading the Old Testament where David had an unknown number of wives, Solomon had like 1,000 wives and concubines. The self proclaimed religious leaders all have something in common.

Terricca, I’m not even sure what that means but God the Universal Father delegates power and creative authority in his Son who is our creator. It wasn’t really until Jesus returned to his place in heaven that believers started to think about the consequences of his teachings and the facts of his being.

Where did it all go so terribly wrong?!

The Son is both ancestral to, and eternal with, the Father. Your analytical explanation  demonstrates your limitations of understanding, not Gods limitation of creation.

Jesus, God the Son incarnate,  is both  the Father of this creation and the Son of the Universal Father of ALL creation and creators.

Man is actually a grandson.

The laughable inconsistency of those who deny the Son is eternal, was a personality reality who came down from heaven as the incarnate Jesus, these people have a temp God in a 30+ year old carpenter who lived in Nazareth as if that’s a perfect explanation.

The Father delegates power and authority in his Sons, he IS in his Sons.

Then t8, if you were consistent then you would put this thread in the “skeptics area”.

This thread is not about other books, this is about the old books that were written by Hebrew government men and latter became sacred and eventually the Word of God. This same corrupt class of men rejected Jesus, theses same kind of men ruled the Catholic Church.

I don’t trust any book as “the Word of God” that says ridiculous, untrue things,…[Read more]

Did Jesus return to being a spirit and not a person when he ascended into heaven?

These anti-creator Son people can’t answer questions like this for obvious reasons, they deny that the Son of God and existed in heaven as a person before this world was, just like he exists today as Lord and God in heaven where he has always lived and had glory…[Read more]

Did Jesus return to being a spirit and not a person when he ascended into heaven?

These anti-creator Son people can’t answer questions like this for obvious reason, they deny that the Son of God and existed in heaven as a person before this world was, just like he exists today as Lord and God in heaven where he has always lived and had glory with…[Read more]

T8, your bias is showing again, my post on this thread was spot on the topic of claiming that God wrote the bible, or that he writes <span style=”text-decoration: underline;”>ANY BOOKS</span> at all,  you just don’t like what I have to say. The Bible is very human written by holy men and reflecting their dishonesty and ignorance.

God is the Word, he never wrote those books, God hasn’t written any books, the church government told you God wrote them, so that’s a false argument.

Myself, I pick out the good teachings and leave the stories about genocide and child rape in the garbage where they belong.

Because the priestly church government that created the scriptures got things wrong, they didn’t claim to be writing the Word of God. They were just official stories for the illiterate common people who were difficult to manage. Years after Babylon when the Jews returned to Israel those stories became sacred scripture. Centuries later we can see…[Read more]

Because the priestly church government that created the scriptures got things wrong, they didn’t claim to be writing the Word of God. They were just official stories for the illiterate common people who were difficult to manage. Years after Babylon when the Jews returned to Israel those stories became sacred scripture. Centuries later we can see…[Read more]

I figured your excuse making would be more arrogance.

God is perfect, any being other than God, such as finite man, or brilliant celestial, can only be relative in perfection. No sin beast to trick people required.

Satan and his followers rebelled against God, they weren’t doing Gods will. It was not Gods will for anyone to Sin.

I figured your excuse making would be more arrogance.

God is perfect, any being other than God, such as finite man, or brilliant celestial, can only be relative in perfection. No sin beast to trick people required.

Satan and his followers rebelled against God, there weren’t doing Gods will. It was not Gods will for anyone to Sin.

God is truth, Satan was error, a five year old child knows the difference.  Evil fruit and good fruit do not exist on the same vine.

For you to say that Satan does Gods will using evil make you a genuine fool!

The matter is a very simple one, when Samuel was written the prevailing though in Judaism was that Yahweh caused both good an evil. 200…[Read more]