Spock replied to the topic Urantia Trinity in the forum Other Faiths 11 years, 7 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Sep. 19 2013,23:12)Quote (Colter @ Sep. 19 2013,22:07)One world government by the people, for the people, under the sovereign rule of God will eventually come but it takes time.Your philosophical book is leading you to accept the NWO then. And yes we know the Antichrist will come first. But why receive him. Be patient and like the…[Read more]
Spock replied to the topic Urantia Trinity in the forum Other Faiths 11 years, 7 months ago
(1067.1) 97:5.4 This Isaiah (the first) was followed by Micah and Obadiah, who confirmed and embellished his soul-satisfying gospel. And these two brave messengers boldly denounced the priest-ridden ritual of the Hebrews and fearlessly attacked the whole sacrificial system.(1067.2) 97:5.5 Micah denounced “the rulers who judge for reward and the p…[Read more]
Spock replied to the topic Urantia Trinity in the forum Other Faiths 11 years, 7 months ago
More perspective on the redactions:The Second Isaiah(1068.1) 97:7.1 The destruction of the Hebrew nation and their captivity in Mesopotamia would have proved of great benefit to their expanding theology had it not been for the determined action of their priesthood. Their nation had fallen before the armies of Babylon, and their nationalistic…[Read more]
Spock replied to the topic Urantia Trinity in the forum Other Faiths 11 years, 7 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Sep. 19 2013,17:22)Quote (Colter @ Sep. 19 2013,12:22)Sure, some of the the prophets, and some of their prophacies, who were eventually adopted by later generations (after being mistreated by people like you in their day) did in fact visualize the spiritual kingdom which is here now. But just because the opertunistic priestly redactors…[Read more]
Spock replied to the topic Urantia Trinity in the forum Other Faiths 11 years, 7 months ago
Quote Why is this fact not in the book of Urantia?It is in the book, if you read it or listened to my answers then you would know that: (615.4) 54:3.2 Although conscious and wholehearted identification with evil (sin) is the equivalent of nonexistence (annihilation), there must always intervene between the time of such personal identification with…[Read more]
Spock replied to the topic Urantia Trinity in the forum Other Faiths 11 years, 8 months ago
5. Erroneous Ideas of God(59.6) 4:5.1 Religious tradition is the imperfectly preserved record of the experiences of the God-knowing men of past ages, but such records are untrustworthy as guides for religious living or as the source of true information about the Universal Father. Such ancient beliefs have been invariably altered by the fact that…[Read more]
Spock replied to the topic Urantia Trinity in the forum Other Faiths 11 years, 8 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Sep. 19 2013,09:37)Quote (Colter @ Sep. 18 2013,23:35)Sure you do, if you believe the bulk of the redacted OT narratives that the Hebrew priest created about themselves (the RCC equivelent) then your historical worldview is a fiction.Ignoring God's covenant that is trying to redeem you back to God and instead listening to the doctrine…[Read more]
Spock replied to the topic The paradise creator sons in the forum Other Faiths 11 years, 8 months ago
……”mythological narratives”(837.6) 74:8.7 The Old Testament account of creation dates from long after the time of Moses; he never taught the Hebrews such a distorted story. But he did present a simple and condensed narrative of creation to the Israelites, hoping thereby to augment his appeal to worship the Creator, the Universal Father, whom…[Read more]
Spock replied to the topic The paradise creator sons in the forum Other Faiths 11 years, 8 months ago
Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 17 2013,13:51)Quote (Colter @ Sep. 17 2013,10:14)“Man might fear a great God, but he trusts and loves only a good God.”Bodhitharta, you seem to fear a great God, I love a good God”ColterGod is Both and even more.“The real universe is friendly to every child of the eternal God.”The Urantia Book, (1477.3) 133:5.8
Spock replied to the topic Urantia Trinity in the forum Other Faiths 11 years, 8 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Sep. 18 2013,19:23)Quote (Colter @ Sep. 18 2013,11:46)Quote (t8 @ Sep. 18 2013,11:36)Colter. Have you considered believing in Star Wars. There is this dark force thingy and a death star. There is good and bad, and a hairy monster called Chew Tobacco who is actually a nice guy. It's all there mate.Not Star Wars, but it is well known…[Read more]
Spock replied to the topic Urantia Trinity in the forum Other Faiths 11 years, 8 months ago
Unlike the sadistic monster God concepts that use fear, manipulation and control in evolved religions, the Process of final judgement revealed in the UB is so fair it wins the approval of even the sinner:3. The Time Lag of Justice(615.3) 54:3.1 The moral will creatures of the evolutionary worlds are always bothered with the unthinking question as…[Read more]
Spock replied to the topic Urantia Trinity in the forum Other Faiths 11 years, 8 months ago
Fasting:8. The Feast of Spiritual Goodness(1656.2) 147:8.1 That night, long after the usual listeners had retired, Jesus continued to teach his apostles. He began this special instruction by quoting from the Prophet Isaiah:(1656.3) 147:8.2 “‘Why have you fasted? For what reason do you afflict your souls while you continue to find pleasure in opp…[Read more]
Spock replied to the topic Urantia Trinity in the forum Other Faiths 11 years, 8 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Sep. 18 2013,11:36)Colter. Have you considered believing in Star Wars. There is this dark force thingy and a death star. There is good and bad, and a hairy monster called Chew Tobacco who is actually a nice guy. It's all there mate.Not Star Wars, but it is well known that Geene Rodenberry, who created Star Trek, was a life long UB…[Read more]
Spock replied to the topic Urantia Trinity in the forum Other Faiths 11 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 18 2013,11:29)Quote (Colter @ Sep. 17 2013,18:12)(41.6) 2:6.8 God loves the sinner and hates the sin: such a statement is true philosophically……….Hate the sin, love the sinner. – Mahatma Gandhi (1869-1948)Perhaps the UB is Hindu in origin?
Gandi spoke much truth, he was spiritually free to think outside of the i…[Read more]
Spock replied to the topic Urantia Trinity in the forum Other Faiths 11 years, 8 months ago
This is the sad barbarism that Muslims have been fed:The blazing fire of Hell is fueled “with men and stones.””…fear the Fire whose fuel is men and stones,- which is prepared for those who reject Faith” (2:24).”…Enough is Hell for a burning fire. Those who reject Our Signs, We shall soon cast into the Fire. As often as their skins are roasted…[Read more]
Spock replied to the topic Urantia Trinity in the forum Other Faiths 11 years, 8 months ago
Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 18 2013,11:00)Quote (Colter @ Sep. 18 2013,06:07)How what came up, your practice of ignoring the resurrection while noticing the wasteful practice of self affliction? No, God doesn’t torture any of his lost children, that Idea is the Son of revenge, a concept born of animalistic, emotional man.Jesus taught Love, not d…[Read more]
Spock replied to the topic Urantia Trinity in the forum Other Faiths 11 years, 8 months ago
How what came up, your practice of ignoring the resurrection while noticing the wasteful practice of self affliction? No, God doesn’t torture any of his lost children, that Idea is the Son of revenge, a concept born of animalistic, emotional man.Jesus taught Love, not death and darkness. Demons don't exist anymore, they were fallen Midway c…[Read more]
Spock replied to the topic Urantia Trinity in the forum Other Faiths 11 years, 8 months ago
Law enforcement is a matter for secular governments not mob rule, stoning or lynchings. Jesus was not a politician; his teachings were specific to the relationship between man and God. Even he does not Judge alone, but if he did his judgment would be just, but no barbaric torture and silly hell fire.Matthew 16:20-22New King James Version (NKJV)20…[Read more]
Spock replied to the topic Urantia Trinity in the forum Other Faiths 11 years, 8 months ago
Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 17 2013,08:11)Quote Jesus taught forgiveness, not an eye for an eye.God has always taught forgiveness but Justice is different than forgiveness therefore a person may have a right to equal remedy but if they choose they may also forgive. The Quran explains:We ordained therein for them: “Life for life, eye for eye, nose or…[Read more]
Spock replied to the topic The paradise creator sons in the forum Other Faiths 11 years, 8 months ago
“Man might fear a great God, but he trusts and loves only a good God.”Bodhitharta, you seem to fear a great God, I love a good God”Colter
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