Hi BD:Christians rely on the mercy of God, but no, not like Muslims do.  You are asking God to have mercy on you based on your works. (Thy Grace, those whose (portion) is not wrath, and who go not astray.)We are saved by Faith, that is we have believed God's testimony that he gave His Only Begotten Son to be the propitiation for our sins, and so,…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 11 2010,15:32)Marty,Did you misunderstand me?  I agreed that you were correct that the Prophets including John the Baptist had the spirit.   I just added that what the Spirit accomplished for them was different than what it accomplishes for those under the new covenant.   I believe you can state that is gives the gift of th…[Read more]

Hi RM:God asked Abraham to sacrifice his son on the altar, and not to “Kill his son”, and there is a difference.  God had promised Abraham that in his seed all nations of the earth would be blessed, and so if he had gone through with the sacrifice, how could this be so?  Abraham believed God and so he was already receiving him from the dead.  …[Read more]

Hi Professor:Perhaps the following will help:Quote MATTHEW 5 1And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him: 2And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying, 3Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 4Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 12 2010,00:14)Thanks Marty, I was getting pretty confused reading here tonight, over in the begotten thread, they saying all sorts of things, too complex for me, it was good to read your post back here, easy to understand,   Babylonia, right here !Do you believe then it is wrong to say God begat God, as in Jesus pre-existant…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 11 2010,09:41)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 10 2010,11:06)Yes, it matters because many Jews and Muslims will not come to God for salvation through His Only Begotten Son and Christ, because of the “Trinity Doctrine”.It matters to God is someone perverts His Word.Marty, The best we can do, as is our commission in these last day's to…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 10 2010,15:51)Marty,I am not sure if we agree about the relationship of the spirit to the Prophets or not due mostly to the fact that some of the servants of Satan have influenced the teachings about the subject thus throwing the matter into dispute.   I do believe the Spirit of God descended on the Prophets but as you say…[Read more]

The following verse identifies who sits upon the throne:Revelation 5:13And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power,be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.Quote Reve…[Read more]

Hi:The following verse of scripture that uses the term Alpha and Omega is also referring to God and not Jesus:Quote Rev 21:6And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. 7He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be…[Read more]

Hi:The following scripture is not speaking of Jesus but is speaking of God:Quote 1.Revelation 1:8I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. The basis for saying that it refers to God is that it refers back to the following scripture:Quote Revelation 1:4John to…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 09 2010,12:16)There have already been many threads on the Trinity and this isn't going to be another.It has to do with the question of SALVATION.When I witness to others I do so because I feel the desire to share God's love and free gift to others. I am concerned that if a person doesn't believe in Jesus and they die…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 07 2010,14:22)Hi,Does it really matter if someone believes in the Trinity or not ?A non Trinitarian would feel uncomfortable in a Church where people are worshipping Jesus, as there is little mention of God, or if God is mentioned I think most would be thinking of Jesus . To a Non Trinitarian they see Jesus as what He said…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 07 2010,14:29)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 06 2010,14:55)Oh, I know, “All things are possible to those who believe”, and so, go on believing what you will, Mike, but there is no scripture to support what you are indicating “that Jesus submitted himself to be begotten of human flesh”.Hi Marty, Yes, there is.  It is the one we've…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 06 2010,16:10)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 06 2010,08:26)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 05 2010,18:26)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 05 2010,09:00)Also, Mike, as I have already stated, and Barley also stated, the scripture states: “being in the form of God”, that is present tense, and also, if this is to mean that “he existed in the form…[Read more]

Hi Kerwin:You say the following relative to Jesus:Quote Deuteronomy 14:1, even though no human being has the spirit outside the new covenant, Jeremiah 31:33. Jesus being the mediator is the only exception and I am not sure you can say that he was ever outside the new covenant.First of all, the prophets did have the spirit but they were not born…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 05 2010,14:51)Hey Marty, Can you answer this question DIRECTLY for me?Since you assert that Jesus was already on earth in human form while “being in the form of God”, how is it that he emptied himself and was made in the likeness of a human being?Do you hear what I'm yelling?  He was begotten in the form of a human being…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 05 2010,18:26)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 05 2010,09:00)Also, Mike, as I have already stated, and Barley also stated, the scripture states: “being in the form of God”, that is present tense, and also, if this is to mean that “he existed in the form of God prior to being born of human flesh”, how is that to be an example to us…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 05 2010,16:53)Marty,I agree with almost everything you stated in your first paragraph as I actually believe I previously stated it myself.   The exception is when you state that Jesus is the only one engendered in his mother’s womb by the Spirit of God.  The Greek word translated “conceived “can be translated to several…[Read more]

Also, Mike, as I have already stated, and Barley also stated, the scripture states: “being in the form of God”, that is present tense, and also, if this is to mean that “he existed in the form of God prior to being born of human flesh”, how is that to be an example to us of humility for me to follow as his disciple? The Apostle Paul was teaching…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 02 2010,04:18)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 01 2010,14:04)By the authority that God had given him as His Son and His Christ, he was in the “form of God”, but he did not let this “go to his head”.  The scripture states that “he made himself not reputation”, but became like us in every way allowing himself to be tempted in every way…[Read more]