Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 18 2010,07:18)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 18 2010,07:11)Hi BD:In the scriptures that you posted which I will post below, Jesus was having a discussion with the Saducees who did not believe in the resurrection of the dead, and he said:Quote Luke 20:34And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are…[Read more]

Hi BD:In the scriptures that you posted which I will post below, Jesus was having a discussion with the Saducees who did not believe in the resurrection of the dead, and he said:Quote Luke 20:34And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage: 35But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 17 2010,09:35)Even if Jesus was killed or crucified Jesus said that that still would not seperate him or any believer from God nor could he ever be considered dead:He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.Mark 12:26-28 For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Aug. 18 2010,06:26)Marty wrote:Quote God desires to have mercy on all who are in this first state of separation from him, and that is the answer to your question. Then, why did Jesus need to die at all?  If it's simply about mercy then why isn't an individual's repentance enough?(Before you answer, see my next post to Ed…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 18 2010,06:12)Mikeboll said:Quote Which one of those translations say “no god will come into being after me”?TO ALL:Mike is really a piece of work isn't he? It says that no god came into being before YHWH and that after Him none shall exist.the RooTo all who know the truth, and those who would want to know the…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Aug. 18 2010,01:20)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 17 2010,10:12)Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Aug. 17 2010,14:36)Ed J and Marty,Until you actually address the following question, I don't think that we can have a coherent discussion:If my punishment for sin is supposed to be death with no resurrection how can my substitute's punishment for my sin…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Aug. 17 2010,14:36)Ed J and Marty,Until you actually address the following question, I don't think that we can have a coherent discussion:If my punishment for sin is supposed to be death with no resurrection how can my substitute's punishment for my sin be death with a side of resurrection?I will gladly resume our discussion…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 16 2010,23:09)Quote (barley @ Aug. 16 2010,01:06)How much controversy would I engender if I claimed, “Before Abraham was, I am”  and said that meant I preexisted Abraham, because Jesus Christ thought he preexisted Abraham?If I said to you that you are only xx years old and how can you have seen Abraham, and you replied before…[Read more]

Hi WhatIsTrue and BD:The following scripture will support what I have stated:Quote Hebrews 2:14Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;Love in Christ,Marty

Hi Mike:What Greek manuscripts have “only begotten god” at John 1:18? The Greek intelinear that I have looked has the Greek “huios”, and YLT has it Son also. This would also be consistent with the rest of the scriptures such as John 3:16, & Matthew 16 for example.There is no “begotten god”.Love in Christ,Marty

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 17 2010,09:31)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 17 2010,09:06)Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 16 2010,11:26)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 16 2010,08:40)Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Aug. 16 2010,05:11)Marty and Shimmer,I appreciate the Sunday school lesson, but you both completely failed to address the scenario that I laid out in my opening post.  I contend…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Aug. 17 2010,11:46)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 17 2010,08:27)Hi:Jesus is a man who now has a spiritual body.  He has a body, a soul, and a spirit same as before.  He has a spiritual body now, not a mortal body and has a spirit of holiness.  He will never die again.  This is what the scriptures state.  They do not say that he is a spir…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 16 2010,15:05)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 16 2010,07:43)Mike:I am glad to hear that we agree that Jesus was foreordained.  He said to those that did not believe that he came down from heaven, “what if the Son of man ascends where he was before”.  We know that he did not exist as the Son of man prior to his birth of the virgin M…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 16 2010,15:11)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 16 2010,07:43)In the scriptures that I quoted I was showing you that he said that he was in the Father and the Father was in him, that is that same spirit was in both, the Word of God.Hi Marty,I'm not sure I've ever read where the spirit was the Word of God.  Do you have a scripture that…[Read more]

Hi Mike:You say:Quote Marty, The Word of God means that Jesus was God's spokesman. He spoke God's words. If Jesus simply existed in the heart of God, then how did he have a memory of his glory IN GOD'S PRESENCE before the world? Please give me the scripture to which you are referring regarding the foregoing statement.Relative to the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 16 2010,15:28)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 16 2010,07:43)In the scripture that you have quoted, John the Baptist was a great man, and he was a prophet, but Jesus said that “he who is least in the kingdom of God was greater than he”. John the Baptist had not been born again because Jesus had not yet been glorified, and so, Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 16 2010,11:26)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 16 2010,08:40)Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Aug. 16 2010,05:11)Marty and Shimmer,I appreciate the Sunday school lesson, but you both completely failed to address the scenario that I laid out in my opening post.  I contend that the metaphor that I have crafted accurately represents the Christian…[Read more]

Hi:Jesus is a man who now has a spiritual body. He has a body, a soul, and a spirit same as before. He has a spiritual body now, not a mortal body and has a spirit of holiness. He will never die again. This is what the scriptures state. They do not say that he is a spirit being.It is through the same Word of God that he obeyed without sin…[Read more]

Yes, of course.

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Aug. 16 2010,05:11)Marty and Shimmer,I appreciate the Sunday school lesson, but you both completely failed to address the scenario that I laid out in my opening post.  I contend that the metaphor that I have crafted accurately represents the Christian gospel.  Do you disagree with it?  If so, what part of it is incorrect?Hi Wh…[Read more]