Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 20 2013,11:01)Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 19 2013,17:37)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 12 2013,12:22)What does it mean to you, Daniel, that the Father gave Jesus His name?It displays the Fathers desire to make himself know as Father.I don't understand.  Are you saying Jesus is the Father, and he tried to make himself better known by…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 20 2013,10:16)Hi Daniel,I ask merely for clarification (on my part) of your understanding of God.  God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Ed,I believe in an Eternal *Almighty Father* which demands that their is a Eternal Son of God.This is Eternal generation and testifies of the Fathers power. I *don't*…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 12 2013,12:22)Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 10 2013,03:40)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2013,17:01)Yes, I believe I get the point.  It seems like you are saying that the OLDEST mss have “keep in your name THOSE you have given me”, and the more recent mss have “keep in your name THAT you have given me”.  But aren't the OLDEST mss u…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 19 2013,17:00)Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 19 2013,16:35)Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 12 2013,22:30)Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 12 2013,11:27)Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 11 2013,03:27)Hi Daniel,Do you believe Jesus was God before being born of Mary?God blessEd J Hi,Jesus Christ is not the Father.Hi Daniel,I didn't ask you:  'Daniel, do you believe Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 12 2013,22:30)Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 12 2013,11:27)Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 11 2013,03:27)Hi Daniel,Do you believe Jesus was God before being born of Mary?God blessEd J Hi,Jesus Christ is not the Father.Hi Daniel,I didn't ask you:  'Daniel, do you believe Jesus Christ is the father'?What I asked instead was: “Do you believe Jesus was…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 19 2013,13:27)What happened to Daniel?  Did Ed scare him off?Hi Mike,Did see a early question but aside from that I haven't had any time to log in. Was on-call last week then went away with the family Salmon fishing. Looking forward to spending more time on here but have tax stuff I need to sort out. Will have a read now…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 11 2013,03:27)Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 10 2013,20:58)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2013,13:39)Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 06 2013,23:48)It says here that the Father will send the Holy Spirit in Jesus name (Jesus is the one who is talking)That is correct.I'm still not seeing how you are using this verse to equate Jesus with our God and his…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2013,13:39)Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 06 2013,23:48)It says here that the Father will send the Holy Spirit in Jesus name (Jesus is the one who is talking)That is correct.I'm still not seeing how you are using this verse to equate Jesus with our God and his God.In fact, let me cut to the chase, Daniel:John 20:17 Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2013,17:01)Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 08 2013,23:50)You get the point? if you still won't believe then you have the other massive issues that you have not addressed, like we baptize in Jesus name.Scripture teaches this and it also teaches us to baptise in the name (singular) of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.Yes, I believe…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2013,13:27)Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 06 2013,16:31)John 17:11New International Version (©1984)I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name–the name you gave me–so that they may be one as we are one.Hi Daniel,Did you read…[Read more]

Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 07 2013,10:10)Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 05 2013,21:54) …the Spirit of Truth is then sent in the Sons name which is obviously Jesus.Agreed.  John 14:26 NASB © “But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.But tell me h…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 07 2013,09:15)Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 05 2013,21:54)With all respect for the name Jehovah, where in the new testament can I find the name Jehovah? In the oldest known fragments of the NT ever found.  Let me know if you want to read about them, and how they contain the name “YHWH” in Hebrew letters mixed into the Greek…[Read more]

New International Version (©1984)For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.Does everyone agree Isaiah 9:6 is Jesus name?If so why would the Son be called the *Everlasting Father*? Unless it was also the…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 07 2013,08:05)Quote (4Thomas @ Mar. 06 2013,17:54)If Jesus is not the Fathers name why would Jesus say he comes in the Father name but *more* importantly if Jesus is not the Fathers name who is the ever lasting Father here?Very simple. He came in that name does not imply that is his name.If a policeman arrests you in the name of…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 06 2013,11:00)Welcome 4Thomas,I hope that your time on HN is enriching as you dig into the Word of God and challenge fellow Bible students and receive challenge from us, and those in  the skeptics section as well. I look forward to hearing more of your views. Also, I agree with your stand with the unborn and developing…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 06 2013,13:40)4T,Where can I read in scripture that Jehovah was ALWAYS a father?With all respect for the name Jehovah, where in the new testament can I find the name Jehovah? Jesus is the name of the Father.The Son comes in his Fathers name, the Spirit of Truth is then sent in the Sons name which is obviously Jesus. This…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 06 2013,11:15)Hi 4Thomas,you said:Quote There is only one origin that is the Father.If that one origin is the Eternal Father, He must have had the Son eternally within Him, otherwise He would not have been a Father. Do you agree?Totally, you can't have an Eternal Father of nothing. Can something be almighty without a…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 19 2013,20:42)Mike, I believe that there is a disinction with God and his Spirit.By his Spirit he can dwell in all and that is the plan, (but currently does not), and as the Father, I personally do not believe that he is contained inside his own creation.The closest we get to see him is when we see Christ seated on his throne.…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 14 2012,06:19)Yes, Kerwin, me too! Also pray for truth to reign here on HN and that the soldiers of Christ would prepare for battle, working together against the enemy instead of fighting each other.So true, its good to see this forum has somewhere on it where people who love God unite to share Gods love with others.Its…[Read more]