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Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 28 2010,16:34) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 29 2010,07:26) Quote (942767 @ Dec. 28 2010,14:01) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 29 2010,04:45) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 27 2010,22:58) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 28 2010,03:38) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 22 2010,20:27) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 23 2010,06:48) Quote (seekingtruth @ Dec. 21 2010,21:47) If I had a whole beer bottle, I have 100% of a bottle
If I have a whole cap, I have 100% of a cap
If I have a whole label, I have 100% of a label
If I have 12 oz. of beer, I have 100% of the contents of a bottleAll together they produce 100% of a bottle of beer
If the items being discussed has parts that do not intersect with each other, then there can be multiple one hundred percents within anything made up of more then one distinct parts.
Wm
Exactly!Good point!
Jesus is God in the flesh. According to the Spirit he is God, according to the flesh he is man.
WJ
Hi WJ,What are 'you' according to the spirit?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDI am a Spirit being who lives in a flesh temple or body.
Why do you think the scriptures refer to our bodies as temples? 1 Cor 5:1, 2 – 1 Cor 6:19
WJ
Hi WJ,Does Jesus have a “Spirit” of his own as we do?
Yes but his Spirit is God. Our Spirit is human. God is Spirit and we have only “One Spirit” who dwells in us or in our Spirits for we are Spirit beings also.How many Spirits do you have living in you ED?
WJ
Hi WJ:The Holy Spirit dwells within us as our helper. Or God dwells within us by His Spirit as our helper. It is He who has spoken His Word to humanity through our Lord Jesus, and so our spirit as born again Christians should be His Word as we learn to apply it to our lives. Or as the Apostle Paul put it: “it is no longer I that live “but Christ that lives in me”.
Quote 2 John 1:9Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. Quote John 6:63It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. Quote John 14:23Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him Quote John 14:16And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Quote John 17:19And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. 20Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
God dwells with in every born again believer by His Spirit and leads His children into all truths in His Word, and sanctifies them through that truth as we are conformed into His image. So it is the Spirit of the Father and the Son dwelling within us, but we are “ONE” with God in the spirit inasmuch as we are obeying His Word.
Love in Christ,
Marty
MartyIf Jesus lives in us (2 Cor 13:5) and we have only one Spirit in us (1 Cor 12:13) then it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that Jesus is God.
WJ
Hi WJ,Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 28 2010,14:58) Does Jesus have a “Spirit” of his own as we do? Quote WJ quote: “yes” Jesus has a “Spirit”, the same as we do; right?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Yes!His Spirit is God because he is God!
WJ
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 29 2010,09:38) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 28 2010,16:34)
Hi WJ,Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 28 2010,14:58) Does Jesus have a “Spirit” of his own as we do? Quote WJ quote: “yes” Jesus has a “Spirit”, the same as we do; right?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Yes!His Spirit is God because he is God!
WJ
Hi WJ,Are you saying “Our Spirit” is God?
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 29 2010,09:38) Yes! His Spirit is God because he is God!
WJ
Hi WJ,That's what I have been telling you all along! …HolySpirit is “GOD: The Father” of Jesus Christ! (Click Here)
2Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God(HolySpirit) was in Christ,
reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them;
and hath committed unto us “The Word” of reconciliation.Eph.4:4-6 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord,
one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who
is above all, and through all, and in you all.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2010,13:30) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 29 2010,09:38) Yes! His Spirit is God because he is God!
WJ
Hi WJ,That's what I have been telling you all along! …HolySpirit is “GOD: The Father” of Jesus Christ! (Click Here)
2Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God(HolySpirit) was in Christ,
reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them;
and hath committed unto us “The Word” of reconciliation.Eph.4:4-6 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord,
one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who
is above all, and through all, and in you all.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi WJ,Is this hard for you to grasp?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2010,03:34) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2010,13:30) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 29 2010,09:38) Yes! His Spirit is God because he is God!
WJ
Hi WJ,That's what I have been telling you all along! …HolySpirit is “GOD: The Father” of Jesus Christ! (Click Here)
2Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God(HolySpirit) was in Christ,
reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them;
and hath committed unto us “The Word” of reconciliation.Eph.4:4-6 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord,
one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who
is above all, and through all, and in you all.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi WJ,Is this hard for you to grasp?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdRight!
And Jesus is in “me” therfore Jesus is God!
WJ
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 30 2010,02:41) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2010,03:34) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2010,13:30) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 29 2010,09:38) Yes! His Spirit is God because he is God!
WJ
Hi WJ,That's what I have been telling you all along! …HolySpirit is “GOD: The Father” of Jesus Christ! (Click Here)
2Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God(HolySpirit) was in Christ,
reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them;
and hath committed unto us “The Word” of reconciliation.Eph.4:4-6 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord,
one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who
is above all, and through all, and in you all.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi WJ,Is this hard for you to grasp?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdRight!
And Jesus is in “me” therfore Jesus is God!
WJ
Hi WJ,Is Jesus' Father in you too?
I thought Jesus' father was God,
did something happen to change things?Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2010,11:51) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 30 2010,02:41) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2010,03:34) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2010,13:30) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 29 2010,09:38) Yes! His Spirit is God because he is God!
WJ
Hi WJ,That's what I have been telling you all along! …HolySpirit is “GOD: The Father” of Jesus Christ! (Click Here)
2Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God(HolySpirit) was in Christ,
reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them;
and hath committed unto us “The Word” of reconciliation.Eph.4:4-6 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord,
one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who
is above all, and through all, and in you all.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi WJ,Is this hard for you to grasp?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdRight!
And Jesus is in “me” therfore Jesus is God!
WJ
Hi WJ,Is Jesus' Father in you too?
I thought Jesus' father was God,
did something happen to change things?
EDThat is my point. That the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit is in me. Yet there is only “One Spirit” that we are made to drink from.
You do get this don't you?
WJ
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 30 2010,04:00) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2010,11:51) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 30 2010,02:41) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2010,03:34) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2010,13:30) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 29 2010,09:38) Yes! His Spirit is God because he is God!
WJ
Hi WJ,That's what I have been telling you all along! …HolySpirit is “GOD: The Father” of Jesus Christ! (Click Here)
2Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God(HolySpirit) was in Christ,
reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them;
and hath committed unto us “The Word” of reconciliation.Eph.4:4-6 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord,
one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who
is above all, and through all, and in you all.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi WJ,Is this hard for you to grasp?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdRight!
And Jesus is in “me” therfore Jesus is God!
WJ
Hi WJ,Is Jesus' Father in you too?
I thought Jesus' father was God,
did something happen to change things?
EDThat is my point. That the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit is in me. Yet there is only “One Spirit” that we are made to drink from.
You do get this don't you?
WJ
Hi WJ,The “HolySpirit” is the Father, and that is the spirit Jesus had in him; you do know that don't you?
Your brother in
Christ, Jesus!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2010,12:31) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 30 2010,04:00) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2010,11:51) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 30 2010,02:41) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2010,03:34) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2010,13:30) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 29 2010,09:38) Yes! His Spirit is God because he is God!
WJ
Hi WJ,That's what I have been telling you all along! …HolySpirit is “GOD: The Father” of Jesus Christ! (Click Here)
2Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God(HolySpirit) was in Christ,
reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them;
and hath committed unto us “The Word” of reconciliation.Eph.4:4-6 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord,
one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who
is above all, and through all, and in you all.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi WJ,Is this hard for you to grasp?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdRight!
And Jesus is in “me” therfore Jesus is God!
WJ
Hi WJ,Is Jesus' Father in you too?
I thought Jesus' father was God,
did something happen to change things?
EDThat is my point. That the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit is in me. Yet there is only “One Spirit” that we are made to drink from.
You do get this don't you?
WJ
Hi WJ,The “HolySpirit” is the Father, and that is the spirit Jesus had in him; you do know that don't you?
EDThe Spirit is Jesus and Jesus is in the Father and Jesus who is God is in us. 2 Cor 13:5
You do understand this don't you?
WJ
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 30 2010,06:54) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2010,12:31) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 30 2010,04:00) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2010,11:51) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 30 2010,02:41) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2010,03:34) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2010,13:30) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 29 2010,09:38) Yes! His Spirit is God because he is God!
WJ
Hi WJ,That's what I have been telling you all along! …HolySpirit is “GOD: The Father” of Jesus Christ! (Click Here)
2Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God(HolySpirit) was in Christ,
reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them;
and hath committed unto us “The Word” of reconciliation.Eph.4:4-6 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord,
one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who
is above all, and through all, and in you all.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi WJ,Is this hard for you to grasp?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdRight!
And Jesus is in “me” therfore Jesus is God!
WJ
Hi WJ,Is Jesus' Father in you too?
I thought Jesus' father was God,
did something happen to change things?
EDThat is my point. That the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit is in me. Yet there is only “One Spirit” that we are made to drink from.
You do get this don't you?
WJ
Hi WJ,The “HolySpirit” is the Father, and that is the spirit Jesus had in him; you do know that don't you?
EDThe Spirit is Jesus and Jesus is in the Father and Jesus who is God is in us. 2 Cor 13:5
You do understand this don't you?
WJ
Hi WJ,Is Jesus' father “Spirit”?
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 29 2010,07:26) Quote (942767 @ Dec. 28 2010,14:01) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 29 2010,04:45) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 27 2010,22:58) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 28 2010,03:38) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 22 2010,20:27) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 23 2010,06:48) Quote (seekingtruth @ Dec. 21 2010,21:47) If I had a whole beer bottle, I have 100% of a bottle
If I have a whole cap, I have 100% of a cap
If I have a whole label, I have 100% of a label
If I have 12 oz. of beer, I have 100% of the contents of a bottleAll together they produce 100% of a bottle of beer
If the items being discussed has parts that do not intersect with each other, then there can be multiple one hundred percents within anything made up of more then one distinct parts.
Wm
Exactly!Good point!
Jesus is God in the flesh. According to the Spirit he is God, according to the flesh he is man.
WJ
Hi WJ,What are 'you' according to the spirit?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDI am a Spirit being who lives in a flesh temple or body.
Why do you think the scriptures refer to our bodies as temples? 1 Cor 5:1, 2 – 1 Cor 6:19
WJ
Hi WJ,Does Jesus have a “Spirit” of his own as we do?
Yes but his Spirit is God. Our Spirit is human. God is Spirit and we have only “One Spirit” who dwells in us or in our Spirits for we are Spirit beings also.How many Spirits do you have living in you ED?
WJ
Hi WJ:The Holy Spirit dwells within us as our helper. Or God dwells within us by His Spirit as our helper. It is He who has spoken His Word to humanity through our Lord Jesus, and so our spirit as born again Christians should be His Word as we learn to apply it to our lives. Or as the Apostle Paul put it: “it is no longer I that live “but Christ that lives in me”.
Quote 2 John 1:9Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. Quote John 6:63It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. Quote John 14:23Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him Quote John 14:16And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Quote John 17:19And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. 20Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
God dwells with in every born again believer by His Spirit and leads His children into all truths in His Word, and sanctifies them through that truth as we are conformed into His image. So it is the Spirit of the Father and the Son dwelling within us, but we are “ONE” with God in the spirit inasmuch as we are obeying His Word.
Love in Christ,
Marty
MartyIf Jesus lives in us (2 Cor 13:5) and we have only one Spirit in us (1 Cor 12:13) then it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that Jesus is God.
WJ
Hi WJ:The scripture to which you refer states:
Quote 2 Corinthians 13:5 (King James Version) 5Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
Please explain to me how this scripture shows that Jesus is God.
Love in Christ,
MartyHi WJ:
1 Co 12:13 states:1 Corinthians 12:13 (King James Version)
13For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
Jesus states:
Quote 19And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. 20Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
Look at verse 21, and it should explain that we are “One Spirit” with the Father if we are obeying His Word. The Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father, and it is He who has spoken to humanity through His Son. And to us, He states: “Be ye Holy for I am Holy.
1 John 1 states:
Quote 9Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. When the doctrine of Christ dwells within us then Christ Jesus dwells within us. This is the Word of God as we apply it in our daily lives. If we don't obey his doctrine, then we are reprobates, if in fact we knew him at one time, and have now begin practicing sin wilfully.
1 John 4:4″He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.”
No, Jesus is not God. Jesus is God's Son and God's character is manifest through His life obedience to the Father without sin even unto death on the cross.
We also should be manifesting God's character through the life that we live as His children. Are we God, WJ? Jesus said that he was our brother. No, we are His children and partakers of His divine nature through His Word, His Son and our Lord, Christ, Jesus.
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (942767 @ Dec. 30 2010,16:40) Hi WJ: The scripture to which you refer states:
Quote 2 Corinthians 13:5 (King James Version) 5Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that “Jesus Christ is in you“, except ye be reprobates?
Please explain to me how this scripture shows that Jesus is God.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Hi MartyDo you have more than “One Spirit” in you?
Is a mere man living in you? How can a mere man be inside of every born again believer unless he is God?
WJ
Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 23 2010,04:27) pierre,
with all respect, I didnt understand half what u said.
I kindof understood the first part, but I dont think irene and mike wil agree with you.
Hey, hey are you trying to get me into this stupid conversation??? No thank you Peace IreneQuote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 31 2010,09:21) Quote (942767 @ Dec. 30 2010,16:40) Hi WJ: The scripture to which you refer states:
Quote 2 Corinthians 13:5 (King James Version) 5Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that “Jesus Christ is in you“, except ye be reprobates?
Please explain to me how this scripture shows that Jesus is God.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Hi MartyDo you have more than “One Spirit” in you?
Is a mere man living in you? How can a mere man be inside of every born again believer unless he is God?
WJ
Hi WJ:A person is defined by the life that he lives. Jesus obeyed the Word of God even unto death on the cross. He dwells within every born again believer if they are obeying his commandments. It is his spirit (the Word of God that he obeyed) that dwells within every born again believer.
I have never said that he is a “mere” man, but yes, he is a man. Isn't that what the scripture states?
Quote 1 Ti 2:5For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Quote Hebrews 3:1Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus; 2Who was faithful to him that appointed him, as also Moses was faithful in all his house.
3FOR THIS MAN was counted worthy of more glory than Moses, inasmuch as he who hath builded the house hath more honour than the house.
4For every house is builded by some man; but he that built all things is God.
5And Moses verily was faithful in all his house, as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after;
6But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (942767 @ Dec. 30 2010,17:01) When the doctrine of Christ dwells within us then Christ Jesus dwells within us…
MartyThis is what you call “Eisegesis”. 2 Cor 13:5 in no way implies it is merely the “Gospel of Jesus” in us.
It clearly says to examine yourself and see if Jesus Christ is in you, if not then you are a reprobate pure and simple!
Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that “Jesus Christ is in you“, except ye be reprobates? 2 Cor 13:5
This agrees with Jesus own words when he said…
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and “make our abode with him“. John 14:23
So does that mean that the Father does not live in us as well, but only the Gospel of God?
Our Bodies are the Temple of God Marty.
WJ
Quote (942767 @ Dec. 30 2010,17:41) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 31 2010,09:21) Quote (942767 @ Dec. 30 2010,16:40) Hi WJ: The scripture to which you refer states:
Quote 2 Corinthians 13:5 (King James Version) 5Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that “Jesus Christ is in you“, except ye be reprobates?
Please explain to me how this scripture shows that Jesus is God.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Hi MartyDo you have more than “One Spirit” in you?
Is a mere man living in you? How can a mere man be inside of every born again believer unless he is God?
WJ
Hi WJ:A person is defined by the life that he lives. Jesus obeyed the Word of God even unto death on the cross. He dwells within every born again believer if they are obeying his commandments. It is his spirit (the Word of God that he obeyed) that dwells within every born again believer.
No MartyIf doing his commandments is how he lives in us then anyone that does his commandments has Jesus living in them, right? Poppycock!
Jesus said many in that day will say Lord, Lord, did we not do this and that and he will say I never knew you.
WJ
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 31 2010,10:03) Quote (942767 @ Dec. 30 2010,17:41) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 31 2010,09:21) Quote (942767 @ Dec. 30 2010,16:40) Hi WJ: The scripture to which you refer states:
Quote 2 Corinthians 13:5 (King James Version) 5Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that “Jesus Christ is in you“, except ye be reprobates?
Please explain to me how this scripture shows that Jesus is God.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Hi MartyDo you have more than “One Spirit” in you?
Is a mere man living in you? How can a mere man be inside of every born again believer unless he is God?
WJ
Hi WJ:A person is defined by the life that he lives. Jesus obeyed the Word of God even unto death on the cross. He dwells within every born again believer if they are obeying his commandments. It is his spirit (the Word of God that he obeyed) that dwells within every born again believer.
No MartyIf doing his commandments is how he lives in us then anyone that does his commandments has Jesus living in them, right? Poppycock!
Jesus said many in that day will say Lord, Lord, did we not do this and that and he will say I never knew you.
WJ
Hi WJ:I said he lives within every born again believer that obeys his commandments. Not just anyone who obeys his commandments. Without his blood to wash away our sins when we fall short this is impossible.
Actually this is what he said:
Quote Matthew 7:21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
24Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
25And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
26And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
27And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
And if you do not agree with my explanation of this, please explain to me how the Father and Jesus lives in all born again believers.
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (942767 @ Dec. 30 2010,18:27) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 31 2010,10:03) Quote (942767 @ Dec. 30 2010,17:41) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 31 2010,09:21) Quote (942767 @ Dec. 30 2010,16:40) Hi WJ: The scripture to which you refer states:
Quote 2 Corinthians 13:5 (King James Version) 5Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that “Jesus Christ is in you“, except ye be reprobates?
Please explain to me how this scripture shows that Jesus is God.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Hi MartyDo you have more than “One Spirit” in you?
Is a mere man living in you? How can a mere man be inside of every born again believer unless he is God?
WJ
Hi WJ:A person is defined by the life that he lives. Jesus obeyed the Word of God even unto death on the cross. He dwells within every born again believer if they are obeying his commandments. It is his spirit (the Word of God that he obeyed) that dwells within every born again believer.
No MartyIf doing his commandments is how he lives in us then anyone that does his commandments has Jesus living in them, right? Poppycock!
Jesus said many in that day will say Lord, Lord, did we not do this and that and he will say I never knew you.
WJ
Hi WJ:I said he lives within every born again believer that obeys his commandments. Not just anyone who obeys his commandments. Without his blood to wash away our sins when we fall short this is impossible.
Actually this is what he said:
Quote Matthew 7:21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
24Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
25And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
26And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
27And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
And if you do not agree with my explanation of this, please explain to me how the Father and Jesus lives in all born again believers.
Love in Christ,
Marty
MartyIf the Father and Jesus and the Holy Spirit lives in us and we have only “One Spirit” then Jesus is God as well as the Father and the Holy Spirit.
WJ
If
(this word should be stricken out of seminary school, alas this is not the case)the Father Jesus the Holy Spirit
(jesus does not carry a 'the', actually never does, no one goes around saying the jesus, do they?)lives in us
“One Spirit”
(omitted 'only' due to it is carries the same definition of one)Jesus God Father Holy Spirit.
seminary school trinity teachings, to fool the public. they believe that jesus is god, top god of all other relationships that are attributed or attached to this god.
hence, they tell you to worship him, a man. who bows to a man as god, that would be too pagan, need to stay away from that, so let's introduce a few ancient gods, let's use the jewish god, to support the prophecy, need another that covers universal……hum…let's go with the holy spirit pulled from the arabic texts. Yummy……
fyi, without the jewish god, god jesus would not exsist, just trumped the jewish god, the more gods the better, makes them stronger, that whole three cord thing.
wj, your positions are getting weaker.
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