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- February 16, 2012 at 3:20 am#278546Marlin1Participant
Ed J,
Quote Your assumption is also proven to be Scientifically FALSE! (1Tm.6:20)
You have never heard of “a Chimera” ? <– Please read linkI did check it out and read it all. You must of just read the first part. The second part said that her children did match her DNA of a cervical smear test. Blood comes from both parents, always has and always will.
In the case of Jesus, God was both parents.
Even if I can't explain all scripture, I am not blind to science. Roman's 1:3, I struggled with a long time, until God revealed it. he is speaking of the Spiritual seed of David.
Some times science is wrong and other times science is right.
The Word of God is always right, but our understanding is often WRONG….
God Bless
MarlinFebruary 16, 2012 at 3:36 am#278551Ed JParticipantQuote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 16 2012,13:20) Ed J he is speaking of the Spiritual seed of David.
God Bless
Marlin
Hi Marlin,How do you explain Luke 3:23-31 concerning Jesus' lineage? …is this ONLY spiritual as well?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgFebruary 16, 2012 at 5:59 am#278571Ed JParticipantQuote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 16 2012,13:20) Ed J, Quote Your assumption is also proven to be Scientifically FALSE! (1Tm.6:20)
You have never heard of “a Chimera” ? <– Please read linkI did check it out and read it all. You must of just read the first part. The second part said that her children did match her DNA of a cervical smear test. Blood comes from both parents, always has and always will.
God Bless
Marlin
Hi Marlin,Did you somehow miss the part where the article said that
the mothers blood DNA did not match the child's [blood] DNA?“Jesus“(74) had “God Blood“(74) running through his veins; we are both in agreement on this issue!
BUT the Science of this case study is in agreement with my analogy, but runs contrary to your assertion:
Point #1 The DNA of the mothers blood did NOT match the DNA of the Child's blood. (this supports my analogy)
Point #2 The DNA of the Child was found to be present in the mother,
but MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE DNA was actually from the mother.
(this too supports my analogy, but it runs contrary to your assertion)
The Child had the Mothers DNA, but the Child's DNA did NOT match the Mothers blood.I'm glad that you did read all the way through the report,
it's TOO bad, though, that you failed to draw the correct conclusion.What conclusions can we draw from this information?
1. Jesus had “God Blood”, while Mary had Adam's blood.
2. The Scientific study allows for Jesus to have Mary's DNA.
3. You saying that point number 2 is not be possible is FALSE!
4. The genealogy in Luke 3:23-31 can ONLY be a physical lineage.
5. the report allows for Rom.1:3 to be “physical” as well as “spiritual”.Please dear brother learn from this information.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgFebruary 16, 2012 at 7:10 am#278589Marlin1ParticipantHi Ed J,
So if I understand you right, Jesus had Mary's DNA in His Flesh, but not His Blood.
If you truly believe that, then you are still in your sins. For you are saying Jesus came with Mary's sinful flesh. The truth is Jesus came in the LIKENESS of sinful flesh, but without any SIN..And if you believe Luke is saying that Joseph is the biological father of Jesus, that compounds your problem.
You are right in that Life is in the Blood, but the flesh is sinful. it is Born that way.
Jesus is of God, NOT Mary and Not Joseph.
God Bless
MarlinFebruary 16, 2012 at 7:16 am#278591terrariccaParticipantEDJ
You guys can loose time,Christ has God as father so he his the son of God,Mary was his mother that fed him to becom a son of man,
The son of God did not need anything else because he already existed but became a man to save humanity from the curse of sin
February 16, 2012 at 7:43 am#278598Ed JParticipantQuote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 16 2012,17:10) Hi Ed J, So if I understand you right, Jesus had Mary's DNA in His Flesh, but not His Blood.
God Bless
Marlin
Hi Marlin,We First need to start out in agreement, you used the word “HIS”, I used the word “HER”;
You do know we are talking about Mary's blood in this sentence; do you not?Do you agree the Scientific report aligns with the following statement…
Jesus had Mary's DNA in His Flesh, but not HER Blood.
NOTE: I'm NOT asking if YOU personally agree with the blue statement.
Instead I'm ONLY asking if you agree if the report aligns with the blue statement.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgFebruary 16, 2012 at 7:45 am#278599Ed JParticipantQuote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 16 2012,17:10) Hi Ed J, And if you believe Luke is saying that Joseph is the biological father of Jesus, that compounds your problem.
God Bless
Marlin
Hi Marlin,The Lineage in Luke 3:23-31 is Mary's lineage; try to stay focused.
Jesus' biological father is NOT Joesph. We already agree to this.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgFebruary 16, 2012 at 10:41 pm#278741Marlin1ParticipantEd J, I agree that the report said that the lady had two sets of DNA and that her blood was different.
Quote The Lineage in Luke 3:23-31 is Mary's lineage; try to stay focused.
Jesus' biological father is NOT Joesph. We already agree to this.I agree that Joesph was not Jesus' biological father.
I disagree that Luke is talking about the lineage of Mary. You have added here my friend. Where does it say that?
Marlin
February 19, 2012 at 4:36 pm#279374Ed JParticipantQuote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 17 2012,08:41) Ed J, I agree that the report said that the lady had two sets of DNA and that her blood was different. Quote The Lineage in Luke 3:23-31 is Mary's lineage; try to stay focused.
Jesus' biological father is NOT Joesph. We already agree to this.I agree that Joesph was not Jesus' biological father.
I disagree that Luke is talking about the lineage of Mary. You have added here my friend. Where does it say that?
Marlin
Hi Marlin,Who's lineage do you suggest Matt.1:1-16 is? …And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary
Who's lineage do you suggest Luke 3:23-31 is? …(as was supposed) the son of JosephYour brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.orgFebruary 19, 2012 at 5:16 pm#279391Marlin1ParticipantEd J,
Right off I will admit I am not very good with lineage.
LUKE 3:23 † And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed ) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,
In this I see Joseph and his father (Heli)…. with (as was supposed) or by custom. Do you agree?In Matthew, I see no lineage of Mary. Please explain?
Marlin
February 20, 2012 at 5:21 am#279596LightenupParticipantMarlin,
I read in the OT somewhere that sin was passed on by the father, not the mother. I will have to look for that verse. I also read that God does not have blood.Kathi
February 20, 2012 at 8:31 pm#279648Marlin1ParticipantHi Kathi,
The first sin is a whole different can of worms. I can say this, that in scripture Eve is said to be the mother of all living. Gen 3:20. No where in scripture will you find that said of Adam.
The Blood in Adam was the created blood of God. Just as it was in Jesus.
God Bless
MarlinFebruary 21, 2012 at 12:14 am#279709Ed JParticipantQuote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 20 2012,03:16) Ed J, Right off I will admit I am not very good with lineage.
LUKE 3:23 † And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed ) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,
In this I see Joseph and his father (Heli)…. with (as was supposed) or by custom. Do you agree?In Matthew, I see no lineage of Mary. Please explain?
Marlin
Hi Marlin,Matt.1:1-16 is Joseph's lineage.
Luke 3:23-31 is Mary's lineage.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgFebruary 21, 2012 at 12:54 am#279720Marlin1ParticipantEd J,
That is one of the theories.
Marlin
February 21, 2012 at 4:37 am#279766Ed JParticipantFebruary 21, 2012 at 4:48 am#279767LightenupParticipantQuote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 20 2012,14:31) Hi Kathi, The first sin is a whole different can of worms. I can say this, that in scripture Eve is said to be the mother of all living. Gen 3:20. No where in scripture will you find that said of Adam.
The Blood in Adam was the created blood of God. Just as it was in Jesus.
God Bless
Marlin
Marlin,
Are you saying that God has created blood in Him or that the blood in Adam was a newly created blood just for him?Kathi
February 21, 2012 at 5:16 am#279776Marlin1ParticipantThe fact of the mater is this, We are saved by the Blood of God. Not Jew or Gentile. If Jesus had the blood or flesh of Joseph or Mary then He was fallen to begin with and could not be our savior.
Jesus was a human man, just like us in every way, just as Adam was. He was born to Mary, but He had the created blood of God in His veins. He came without SIN.
NO one could come sinless and save all, except by God's own hand. The created blood cell placed in a virgin.
God Bless
MarlinFebruary 21, 2012 at 5:19 am#279777LightenupParticipantMarlin,
So you do not believe in the pre-existence of Jesus, right? I just want to make sure I am understanding you.Thanks,
KathiFebruary 21, 2012 at 5:41 am#279790Marlin1ParticipantKatti, Do I believe that Jesus is the 2nd person of the trinity (NO)… Do I believe that Jesus is a little god. (NO)…
Neither of those are true, both false, both came from Satan and will return to him.
Before there was anything at all, there was God. God spoke and the WORD (LOGOS) came into being. That Word is GOD and always was God and always will be God. That God became Flesh and lived among us. And God created everything by His Word.
I know this is not very popular with some, but it is the truth just the same.
God Bless
MarlinFebruary 21, 2012 at 5:49 am#279793LightenupParticipantMarlin,
I didn't ask you if Jesus is the 2nd person of the trinity or if He is a little god. I just asked you if He pre-existed (His birth in Mary).You said that God spoke and the WORD came into being. Was the Word the begotten God who was with the begetter God in your understanding?
Kathi
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