Yahweh and Yahushua

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    This is a question that is often asked. Why should an English speaking person call on the Hebrew names of Yahweh and Yahushua?

    The answer is actually quite simple. Personal names do not translate across languages. For instance, Ariel Sharon is still Ariel Sharon in any country or language. Personal names do not translate, they transliterate. In other words, they retain the pronunciation as much as possible. Even so, “The LORD” is not a translation of the name “Yahweh”. It is a direct replacement. Put simply, the translators admit they substituted Yahweh's name for a title. All for the sake of an unscriptural tradition.

    Yahweh's name is in scripture nearly 7000 times. And nearly 7000 times they replaced it (not translated it) with “the LORD”, or “GOD”. I wouldn't want someone to change my name unless it was Yahweh. And it is clear that according to the third commandment that Yahweh doesn't want anyone to change or falsify His name either.

    Think about this for a moment. What makes man think he has the authority to change the name of the one who created him, and who created all things? We don't have that right! For instance, in the scriptures we see that one who changes the name of another is always in authority over them. Yahushua renamed Simon. Yahweh renamed Abram to Abraham. Adam named the animals. We have no authority to rename our Heavenly Father or His Messiah Yahushua. We need to be sure we leave things as He inspired it.

    Also consider this: If you don't speak Hebrew then you can't say Abraham, Isaac, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Obadiah, Zechariah, Michael or a long list of other Hebrew names! Why was Yahweh's name the only one changed? And why was Yahushua's Name the only name in our modern bibles that is different from the Old Testament to the New Testament? In the Old Testament, it's “Joshua” but in the New Testament it's “Jesus”.

    The answer is simple. Satan will do anything to turn men from the truth. Yahweh's Name IS truth. Yahushua's Name IS truth. Substitutions are lies. You see, Father Yahweh is seeking those who worship Him in spirit and in truth. And when we call Him by a false name, then we are worshipping Him in lies and not truth. If we know that “the Lord” and “Jesus” are false, why continue in error?? Aren't we supposed to love the truth?

    But maybe you are thinking, “Okay so do you have any scriptures that show that Gentiles should be calling on His name?” I am glad you asked….

    Malachi 1:11 For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen (Heb. Gentiles), saith Yahweh of hosts.

    Acts 9:15 But the Master said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:

    Acts 15:14 Simeon hath declared how Elohim at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.

    #126715
    NickHassan
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    Hi and welcome soy,
    You have a point.
    But YHWH is not a personal name but a descriptive name.
    And there seem to be many variations on the name of the son of God.

    YESHUA.
    YASHUA
    YAHUSHUA

    etc

    #126720
    Lightenup
    Participant

    Hello soY,
    Welcome to Heaven Net!  I'm glad you are here.

    While reading your post the thought that came to me is if calling Him Yahweh is the name that should be spoken when regarding Him, why didn't Jesus use that name or did He and I am not aware of it?

    Matt 27:46

    46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

    God bless,
    Kathi/Lightenup/LU
    ASV

    #126721

    Yahweh's Name Designates Yahweh Himself

    Exodus 3:15 (KJV) And Elohim said moreover to Moses, Thus shalt thou say to the children of Israel, Yahweh Elohim of your fathers, the Elohim of Abraham, the Elohim of Isaac, and the Elohim of Jacob, hath sent me to you: this [is] my name for ever, and this [is] my memorial to all generations.

    Exodus 6:3 (KJV) And I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, by [the name of] Elohim Almighty, but by my name Yahweh was I not known to them?

    Exodus 15:3 (KJV) Yahweh [is] a man of war: Yahweh [is] his name.

    1Kings 8:42 (KJV) (For they shall hear of thy great name, and of thy strong hand, and of thy outstretched arm;) when he shall come and pray toward this house;

    1Kings 18:24 (KJV) And call ye on the name of your elohim, and I will call on the name of Yahweh: and the Elohim that answereth by fire, let him be Elohim. And all the people answered and said, It is well spoken. {It is…: Heb. The word is good}

    Psalms 20:1 (KJV) Yahweh hear thee in the day of trouble; the name of the Elohim of Jacob defend thee; {defend…: Heb. set thee on an high place}

    Psalms 54:1 (KJV) Save me, O Elohim, by thy name, and judge me by thy strength.

    Isaiah 18:7 (KJV) In that time shall the present be brought to Yahweh of hosts of a people scattered and stripped, and from a people terrible from their beginning to this time; a nation measured by line and trodden under foot, whose land the rivers have spoiled, to the place of the name of Yahweh of hosts, the mount Zion.

    Isaiah 30:27 (KJV) Behold, the name of Yahweh cometh from far, burning [with] his anger, and the burden [of it is] heavy: his lips are full of indignation, and his tongue as a devouring fire:

    Isaiah 42:8 (KJV) I [am] Yahweh: that [is] my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

    Isaiah 47:4 (KJV) [As for] our redeemer, Yahweh of hosts [is] his name, the Holy One of Israel.

    Isaiah 48:2 (KJV) For they call themselves of the holy city, and stay themselves upon the Elohim of Israel; Yahweh of hosts [is] his name.

    Jeremiah 32:18 (KJV) Thou showest lovingkindness to thousands, and recompensest the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their children after them: the Great, the Mighty Elohim, Yahweh of hosts, [is] his name,

    Jeremiah 33:2 (KJV) Thus saith Yahweh the maker of this, Yahweh that formed it, to establish it; Yahweh [is] his name;

    Jeremiah 44:26 (KJV) Therefore hear ye the word of Yahweh, all Judah that dwell in the land of Egypt; Behold, I have sworn by my great name, saith Yahweh, that my name shall no more be named in the mouth of any man of Judah in all the land of Egypt, saying, Yahweh Elohim liveth.

    Jeremiah 49:13 (KJV) For I have sworn by myself, saith Yahweh, that Bozrah shall become a desolation, a reproach, a waste, and a curse; and all her cities shall be perpetual wastes.

    Ezekiel 43:8 (KJV) In their setting of their threshold by my thresholds, and their post by my posts, and the wall between me and them, they have even defiled my holy name by their abominations that they have committed: wherefore I have consumed them in my anger. {and the…: or, for there was but a wall between me and them}

    Amos 5:27 (KJV) Therefore I will cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith Yahweh, whose name [is] The Elohim of hosts.

    Zechariah 14:9 (KJV) And Yahweh shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Yahweh, and his name one.

    Malachi 2:2 (KJV) If ye will not hear, and if ye will not lay [it] to heart, to give glory to my name, saith Yahweh of hosts, I will even send a curse upon you, and I will curse your blessings: yea, I have cursed them already, because ye do not lay [it] to heart.

    1Timothy 6:1 (KJV) Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of Elohim and [his] doctrine may not be blasphemed.

    Revelation 3:12 (KJV) Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my Elohim, and he shall go out no more: and I will write upon him the name of my Elohim, and the name of the city of my Elohim, [which is] new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my Elohim: and my new name .

    Yahweh's Name is the greatest name

    YHWH's Name Endures Forever: Psalms 135:13 (KJV) Thy name, O Yahweh, [endureth] for ever; [and] thy memorial, O Yahweh, throughout all generations.

    Yahweh's name is awesome

    Deuteronomy 28:58 (KJV) If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are written in this book, that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, Yahweh thy Elohim;

    Psalms 99:3 (KJV) Let them praise thy great and terrible name; [for] it [is] holy.

    Psalms 111:9 (KJV) He sent redemption to his people: he hath commanded his covenant for ever: holy and reverend [is] his name.

    Yahweh's name is Exalted

    Psalms 138:2 (KJV) I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy loving kindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word and thy name above all.

    Psalms 148:13 (KJV) Let them praise the name of Yahweh: for his name alone is excellent; his glory [is] above the earth and heaven. {excellent: Heb. exalted}

    Yahweh's name is Honourable

    Deuteronomy 28:58 (KJV) If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are written in this book, that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, Yahweh thy Elohim;

    Nehemiah 9:5 (KJV) Then the Levites, Jeshua, and Kadmiel, Bani, Hashabniah, Sherebiah, Hodijah, Shebaniah, [and] Pethahiah, said, Stand up [and] bless Yahweh your Elohim for ever and ever: and blessed be thy glorious name, which is exalted above all blessing and praise.

    Psalms 66:2 (KJV) Sing forth the honour of his name: make his praise glorious.

    Psalms 79:9 (KJV) Help us, O Elohim of our salvation, for the glory of thy name: and deliver us, and purge away our sins, for thy name's sake.

    Yahweh's name is good and great

    Psalms 52:9 (KJV) I will praise thee for ever, because thou hast done [it]: and I will wait on thy name; for [it is] good before thy saints.

    Psalms 54:6 (KJV) I will freely sacrifice to thee: I will praise thy name, O Yahweh; for [it is] good.

    Joshua 7:8 (KJV) O Yahweh, what shall I say, when Israel turn their backs before their enemies! {backs: Heb. necks}
    Joshua 7:9 (KJV) For the Canaanites and all the inhabitants of the land shall hear [of it], and shall surround us, and cut off our name from the earth: and what wilt thou do to thy great name?

    1Samuel 12:22 (KJV) For Yahweh will not forsake his people for his great name's sake: because it hath pleased Yahweh to make you his people.

    2Chronicles 6:32 (KJV) Moreover concerning the stranger, who is not of thy people Israel, but hath come from a distant country for thy great name's sake, and thy mighty hand, and thy outstretched arm; if they come and pray in this house;

    Psalms 76:1 (KJV) In Judah [is] Elohim known: his name [is] great in Israel. {of: or, for}

    Psalms 99:3 (KJV) Let them praise thy great and terrible name; [for] it [is] holy.

    Jeremiah 44:26 (KJV) Therefore hear ye the word of Yahweh, all Judah that dwell in the land of Egypt; Behold, I have sworn by my great name, saith Yahweh, that my name shall no more be named in the mouth of any man of Judah in all the land of Egypt, saying, The Master Elohim liveth.

    Ezekiel 36:23 (KJV) And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the nations, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the nations shall know that I [am] Yahweh, saith the Master Elohim, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.

    Malachi 1:11 (KJV) For from the rising of the sun even to the setting of the same my name [shall be] g
    reat among the Gentiles; and in every place incense [shall be] offered to my name, and a pure offering: for my name [shall be] great among the nations, saith Yahweh of hosts.

    Yahweh's name is Pure and Separate (Holy)

    Psalms 30:4 (KJV) Sing to Yahweh, O ye saints of his, and give thanks at the remembrance of his holiness. {at…: or, to the memorial}

    Psalms 33:21 (KJV) For our heart shall rejoice in him, because we have trusted in his holy name.

    Psalms 97:12 (KJV) Rejoice in Yahweh, ye righteous; and give thanks at the remembrance of his holiness. {at…: or, to the memorial}

    Psalms 103:1 (KJV) <> Bless Yahweh, O my soul: and all that is within me, [bless] his holy name.

    Psalms 105:3 (KJV) Glory ye in his holy name: let the heart of them rejoice that seek Yahweh.

    Psalms 106:47 (KJV) Save us, O Yahweh our Elohim, and gather us from among the nations, to give thanks to thy holy name, [and] to triumph in thy praise.

    Psalms 111:9 (KJV) He sent redemption to his people: he hath commanded his covenant for ever: holy and reverend [is] his name.

    Isaiah 57:15 (KJV) For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name [is] Holy; I dwell in the high and holy [place], with him also [that is] of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.

    Ezekiel 39:7 (KJV) So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not [let them] profane my holy name any more: and the nations shall know that I [am] Yahweh, the Holy One in Israel.

    Yahweh's name is jealously preserved

    Exodus 20:7 (KJV) Thou shalt not take the name of Yahweh thy Elohim in vain (Falsely); for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

    Exodus 34:14 (KJV) For thou shalt worship no other elohim: for the Yahweh, whose name [is] Jealous, [is] a jealous Elohim:

    Leviticus 18:21 (KJV) And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through [the fire] to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy Elohim: I [am] Yahweh. {Molech: Gr. Moloch}

    Leviticus 19:12 (KJV) And ye shall not swear by my name falsely, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy Elohim: I [am] Yahweh.

    Leviticus 20:3 (KJV) And I will set my face against that man, and will cut him off from among his people; because he hath given of his seed to Molech, to defile my sanctuary, and to profane my holy name.

    Leviticus 24:10 (KJV) And the son of an Israelitish woman, whose father [was] an Egyptian, went out among the children of Israel: and this son of the Israelitish [woman] and a man of Israel strove together in the camp;
    Leviticus 24:11 (KJV) And the Israelitish woman's son blasphemed the name [of Yahweh], and cursed. And they brought him to Moses: (and his mother's name [was] Shelomith, the daughter of Dibri, of the tribe of Dan:)
    Leviticus 24:12 (KJV) And they put him in custody, that the mind of Yahweh might be shown to them. {that…: Heb. to expound unto them according to the mouth of Yahweh}
    Leviticus 24:13 (KJV) And Yahweh spoke to Moses, saying,
    Leviticus 24:14 (KJV) Bring forth him that hath cursed outside the camp; and let all that heard [him] lay their hands upon his head, and let all the congregation stone him.
    Leviticus 24:15 (KJV) And thou shalt speak to the children of Israel, saying, Whoever curseth his Elohim shall bear his sin.
    Leviticus 24:16 (KJV) And he that blasphemeth the name of Yahweh, he shall surely be put to death, [and] all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name [of Yahweh], shall be put to death.

    Ezekiel 20:9 (KJV) But I wrought for my name's sake, that it should not be profaned before the nations, among whom they [were], in whose sight I made myself known to them, in bringing them forth from the land of Egypt.

    Ezekiel 20:21 (KJV) However the children rebelled against me: they walked not in my statutes, neither kept my judgments to do them, which [if] a man doeth, he shall even live in them; they profaned my sabbaths: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them, to accomplish my anger against them in the wilderness.

    Ezekiel 36:20 (KJV) And when they entered among the nations, to which they went, they profaned my holy name, when they said to them, These [are] the people of Yahweh, and are gone forth out of his land.

    Ezekiel 39:7 (KJV) So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not [let them] profane my holy name any more: and the nations shall know that I [am] Yahweh, the Holy One in Israel.

    Yahweh's name is Majestic

    Psalms 8:1 (KJV) O Yahweh our Master, how excellent [is] thy name in all the earth! who hast set thy glory above the heavens.

    Micah 5:4 (KJV) And he shall stand and feed in the strength of the Yahweh, in the majesty of the name of Yahweh his Elohim; and they shall abide: for now shall he be great to the ends of the earth. {feed or, rule}

    Yahweh's name is Trustworthy

    1Samuel 12:22 (KJV) For Yahweh will not forsake his people for his great name's sake: because it hath pleased Yahweh to make you his people.

    Psalms 23:3 (KJV) He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

    Psalms 31:3 (KJV) For thou [art] my rock and my fortress; therefore for thy name's sake lead me, and guide me.

    Psalms 33:21 (KJV) For our heart shall rejoice in him, because we have trusted in his holy name.

    Psalms 119:132 (KJV) Look thou upon me, and be merciful to me, as thou usest to do to those that love thy name. {as thou…: Heb. according to the custom toward those, etc}

    Psalms 124:8 (KJV) Our help [is] in the name of Yahweh, who made heaven and earth.

    Psalms 143:11 (KJV) Revive me, O Yahweh, for thy name's sake: for thy righteousness' sake bring my soul out of trouble.

    Isaiah 50:10 (KJV) Who [is] among you that feareth Yahweh, that obeyeth the voice of his servant, that walketh [in] darkness, and hath no light? let him trust in the name of Yahweh, and rely upon his Elohim.

    There is more….

    #126722
    Lightenup
    Participant

    How about the New Testament…Where does Jesus use that name of Yahweh when referring to God?

    #126723
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi LU,
    Indeed.

    Jesus call him FATHER.
    We should too.

    #126724

    Quote (Lightenup @ April 06 2009,09:52)
    Hello soY,
    Welcome to Heaven Net!  I'm glad you are here.

    While reading your post the thought that came to me is if calling Him Yahweh is the name that should be spoken when regarding Him, why didn't Jesus use that name or did He and I am not aware of it?

    Matt 27:46

    46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

    God bless,
    Kathi/Lightenup/LU
    ASV


    Over time, man has taken it upon himself to change the name of the Heavenly Father.

    Now ask yourself this, if you were satan, would you want people to know the truth? or would you want people calling on a name with no meaning.

    Jesus is a direct misinterpretation of the name Yahushua. I'll fill you in on that a bit later.

    #126727
    Lightenup
    Participant

    But what about the name The Son called Yahweh??? He is truth and we can follow Him and what He did and said and called God. We can use the name that the Son used for His Father. Where did He call Him Yahweh?

    #126755
    david
    Participant

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    But YHWH is not a personal name but a descriptive name.

    –nick.

    Nick, how do you differentiate the two?
    Can a descriptive name not be a personal name?
    Why would you say it is not a personal name?

    #126756
    david
    Participant

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    Hi LU,
    Indeed.

    Jesus call him FATHER.
    We should too.

    Indeed, we should.
    He is called Father in the Bible maybe a thousand times, probably far less. (I'm not sure. I see “father” occurs about 1400 times in the Bible, but many of those instances are for human fathers I'm sure.)

    But he is referred to by those whom he inspired to write down his own thoughts by his personal name almost 7000 times.
    So, yes, Nick, Jesus called him Father, as did the prophets, etc. But they also called him by his name, 7 times as often….probably more.

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    How about the New Testament…Where does Jesus use that name of Yahweh when referring to God?


    Unfortunately, we only have copies of copies of the NT and we know that they removed God's name, and it is highly unlikely that when Jesus quoted from the OT that he followed Jewish superstition and substituted God's name for “LORD.”

    #126757
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (david @ April 06 2009,17:08)

    Quote
    But YHWH is not a personal name but a descriptive name.

    –nick.

    Nick, how do you differentiate the two?
    Can a descriptive name not be a personal name?
    Why would you say it is not a personal name?


    Hi David,
    How can I AM WHO AM be a personal name for a Spirit God?
    Personal names are given by parents.
    God has no parent.

    #126968
    david
    Participant

    Quote
    Hi David,
    How can I AM WHO AM be a personal name

    –Nick.

    But Nick, you didn't say “I AM WHO I AM” is not a personal name.
    Nor did you say “Almighty” or “Lord” or “Father” or “Creator are not personal names.  Clearly, they are not personal names.
    What you said was:
    But YHWH is not a personal name but a descriptive name.

    The truth is, it's both.
    YHWH which occurs more times than all of his titles (God, Lord, Creator, Sovereign, Almighty, Father, etc) COMBINE!!!!!! isn't the same as those titles, is it?  Nope, it's a …. personal name.

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    Personal names are given by parents.
    God has no parent.


    This is bad logic.  Both statements are true.  But statement 1 is a generalization and not a fact.
    i can give myself a personal name.  I can change my name.  So, no the definition of personal name isn't: a name given by a parent.

    #126972
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Good posts everyone.

    I think this subject needs discussion.

    #126973
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (david @ April 06 2009,17:12)

    Quote
    Hi LU,
    Indeed.

    Jesus call him FATHER.
    We should too.

    Indeed, we should.
    He is called Father in the Bible maybe a thousand times, probably far less.  (I'm not sure.  I see “father” occurs about 1400 times in the Bible, but many of those instances are for human fathers I'm sure.)

    But he is referred to by those whom he inspired to write down his own thoughts by his personal name almost 7000 times.  
    So, yes, Nick, Jesus called him Father, as did the prophets, etc.  But they also called him by his name, 7 times as often….probably more.

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    How about the New Testament…Where does Jesus use that name of Yahweh when referring to God?


    Unfortunately, we only have copies of copies of the NT and we know that they removed God's name, and it is highly unlikely that when Jesus quoted from the OT that he followed Jewish superstition and substituted God's name for “LORD.”


    But we can call him Father and that is good to know.
    I also call him Yahweh which is quite different to “Jehovah” in pronunciation.

    I know that Joshua is meant to be Yeshua, so I can see the “J” being used instead of the 'Y'.

    I copied this from another web site.

    Yeshua is a Hebrew name which has been transliterated into Greek as Iesous (IhsouV: pronounced “ee-ay-SUS”). The English “Jesus” comes from the Latin transliteration of the Greek name into the Latin Iesus. Now Greek has no “y” sound, but the Latin “i” is both an “i” and a “j” (i.e., it can have a consonantal force in front of other vowels), the latter of which is properly pronounced like the English “y” (which explains the German Jesu, “YAY-su”)That is why we spell Jesus as we do, taking it straight from Latin, but we pronounce the name with a soft “j” sound because that is what we do in English with the consonantal “j”.

    #127047
    david
    Participant

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    I also call him Yahweh which is quite different to “Jehovah” in pronunciation.

    I've been watching “flight of the conchords” and from what I gather, you say a lot of things with “quite a different” pronunciation. Half the reason I've watched that show is because of their…interesting pronunciation.

    #127790
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Here is the truth in this matter Jesus said:

    Matthew 6:9

    9 Pray then like this: “Our Father in heaven,hallowed be your name.

    It is better to talk to God as Father or simply God because using Variations of various names and disagreeing over those names may cause someone to profane God's holy name therefore Jesus never used the actual name of the tetragrammaton and it must be understood that there are no vowels in Hebrew so adding vowel points are always assumptions. It is sufficient to simply say God because There is no other true God other than God Most High. Jesus said that Our Father God is The ONLY TRUE GOD, there is no one else.

    So it is best to refrain from fighting about any name someone holds to dear as God as you may be profaning God's name unknowingly. Sometimes people speak in different languages about the same thing such as house being called “Casa” in spanish or 房子 in chinese or arabic منزل

    #127805
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (david @ April 09 2009,11:36)

    Quote
    I also call him Yahweh which is quite different to “Jehovah” in pronunciation.

    I've been watching “flight of the conchords” and from what I gather, you say a lot of things with “quite a different” pronunciation.  Half the reason I've watched that show is because of their…interesting pronunciation.


    True. Our accent is quite different. We seem to use/abuse the vowels. Our E sounds like an I to other English speakers. Our I sounds like U.

    But back to the Jehovah and Yahweh issue, they seem quite different.

    I remember when I first saw the word marijuana in written form. I never guessed it would have a J in it.

    marawana not marriageuana.

    So (G)Jehovah may not be very accurate, but does it matter?

    #127806
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    #127807
    Tim Kraft
    Participant

    One is definetly fighting an uphill battle to try and change what Jesus called his father. Did Jesus say,”When you pray, say, Our yahweh, who art in Heaven”. I don't think so. Is the word God ok to say or is that also yahweh? Personally I don't think any name can describe the indescribable. A name alone would only limit our Father/God. Whatever a person believes God to be to them, is summed up in whatever name they use for God. The name really means nothing, its the inner image of God they have that counts. Whatever is Truth to an individual is their Truth. The name is superfluous. Peace to all, TK

    #127838
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    Jesus did use the name YHWH when he quoted Deut 6.
    Mark 12:29

    29and Jesus answered him — `The first of all the commands [is], Hear, O Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord is one;

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