Worshipping Jesus

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Hi BD,
WE are not followers of RELIGION.
Religion is defined in James.

Are you a follower of religion?
We follow a person Jesus Christ who shows us the way.

The multitude of human religions of the world are not of God

I agree! Pure religion is this:

1) And be steadfast in prayer; practise regular charity; and bow down your heads with those who bow down (in worship).
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #43)

(2) And remember We took a covenant from the Children of Israel (to this effect): Worship none but Allah. treat with kindness your parents and kindred, and orphans and those in need; speak fair to the people; be steadfast in prayer; and practise regular charity. Then did ye turn back, except a few among you, and ye backslide (even now).
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #83)

(4) It is not righteousness that ye turn your faces Towards east or West; but it is righteousness- to believe in Allah and the Last Day, and the Angels, and the Book, and the Messengers; to spend of your substance, out of love for Him, for your kin, for orphans, for the needy, for the wayfarer, for those who ask, and for the ransom of slaves; to be steadfast in prayer, and practice regular charity; to fulfil the contracts which ye have made; and to be firm and patient, in pain (or suffering) and adversity, and throughout all periods of panic. Such are the people of truth, the Allah-fearing.
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #177)

This is THE WAY of Christ!

May 13, 2009 at 5:15 am#130854

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Hi BD,
So now you are not a follower of religion.

You seem to put your teacher above the man from Nazareth.
Why is this?

May 13, 2009 at 11:23 pm#130942

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Hi BD,
Who is condemning?
Many fine people do lovely things .
It is hoped in God's mercy they will find salvation.

But the way is Jesus.

All Muslims believe that Jesus is the way and what's more they realize that God did not send all the other Prophets and messengers for nothing if you don't accept even the least of there you cannot accept Jesus Christ.

Hi BD:

Muslims do not believe that Jesus is the Son of God, and so then how can they believe that he is the way?

Love in Christ,
Marty

I'm glad you asked.

The term Son is relational with Christ as Jews have always used the term but in Islam when the book was sent down many erroneously believed that God literally sired a child which of course God did not do. God does not need to reproduce like us so the manner of Christ being begotten was with a word.

(8) (And remember) when the angels said: O Mary! Lo! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a word from him, whose name is the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, illustrious in the world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near (unto Allah).

11) O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not “Three” – Cease! (it is) better for you! – Allah is only One Allah. Far is it removed from His Transcendent Majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #171)

(14) They surely disbelieve who say: Lo! Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary. The Messiah (himself) said: O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Lo! whoso ascribeth partners unto Allah, for him Allah hath forbidden paradise. His abode is the Fire. For evil-doers there will be no helpers.
( سورة المائدة , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #72)

As you can see even the term children of Israel is a term that can be taken to mean literal children by progeny. God does not have Children like a Man does because God is not a Human being and He doesn't have genitals nor does He need to. God is not a Male or a Female as it is stated God made mankind in His image Male and Female He made them in His Image. We call “God” He as a literary device.

Jesus himself said that the heavenly kingdom is not such wherein they marry and such

Matthew 22:29-31 (New King James Version)
29 Jesus answered and said to them, “You are mistaken, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God. 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels of God[a] in heaven.

Now obviously in the kingdom of God if they are not married they are not having children yet God does call even the angels “sons” Therefore “sons” should be taken as meaning servants but the romans, greeks and other pagans take the son of God literally so much so that people worship mary in-fact one version of the trinity especially in the day of the Quran was that of The Father, Mary and Jesus as the trinity.

Even today Mary is considered the Queen of Heaven and The Mother of God. The Quran dispels such misunderstandings and clears the beloved Christ and the Honoured Mary of false allegations

(1) And when Allah saith: O Jesus, son of Mary! Didst thou say unto mankind: Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah? he saith: Be glorified! It was not mine to utter that to which I had no right. If I used to say it, then Thou knewest it. Thou knowest what is in my mind, and I know not what is in Thy Mind. Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Knower of Things Hidden?
( سورة المائدة , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #116)

And so,

Do Muslims believe the following scriptures which are central to Christianity?

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Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Jhn 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
Jhn 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

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Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Rom 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

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1Jo 5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
1Jo 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
1Jo 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
1Jo 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; [and] he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

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Act 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

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Jhn 14:5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?
Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Jhn 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
Jhn 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
Jhn 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou [then], Shew us the Father?

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1Jo 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

Love in Christ,
Marty

I have no problem with us discussing this but you should come from the guidance of the Holy Spirit and not just a massive posting which are not responces based on knowledge.

The Fact is the Quran does call Jesus THE CHRIST and therefore by your own admission is not lying.

Also, Christianity has many doctrines competing so I would want to please God Almighty and not “Christianity”. God is not a Christian, a Jew or a Muslim.

For instance you may believe that Jesus is God and to you that may mean that Jesus is The Father or to you it might mean you believe in the trinity of 3 persons 1 God.

But Judaism teaches about God a certain way and so does Islam and both of those ways are not the same as those called FOOLISH by God as would be the Foolish Nation that would be converted an anger Israel.

Hi BD:

I know that Muslims say that they believe that Jesus is the Christ, but there is more to the scripture that I posted. Let me post it again for you.

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1Jo 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

I believe and know that the following is true by the Holy Spirit of my God who is my Father.

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1Ti 2:5 For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus

Muslims will not confess Jesus Christ as their Lord, and without the blood that was shed for our sins, no man can be saved.

Love in Christ,
Marty

May 14, 2009 at 6:57 am#130973

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 13 2009,17:15)

Hi BD,
So now you are not a follower of religion.

You seem to put your teacher above the man from Nazareth.
Why is this?

Those are the teachings of Jesus.

May 14, 2009 at 7:04 am#130974

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Hi BD,
Who is condemning?
Many fine people do lovely things .
It is hoped in God's mercy they will find salvation.

But the way is Jesus.

Hi BD:

Muslims do not believe that Jesus is the Son of God, and so then how can they believe that he is the way?

Love in Christ,
Marty

I'm glad you asked.

Jesus himself said that the heavenly kingdom is not such wherein they marry and such

Even today Mary is considered the Queen of Heaven and The Mother of God. The Quran dispels such misunderstandings and clears the beloved Christ and the Honoured Mary of false allegations

And so,

Do Muslims believe the following scriptures which are central to Christianity?

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1Jo 5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
1Jo 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
1Jo 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us et
ernal life, and this life is in his Son.
1Jo 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; [and] he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

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Act 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

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1Jo 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

Love in Christ,
Marty

I have no problem with us discussing this but you should come from the guidance of the Holy Spirit and not just a massive posting which are not responces based on knowledge.

The Fact is the Quran does call Jesus THE CHRIST and therefore by your own admission is not lying.

Also, Christianity has many doctrines competing so I would want to please God Almighty and not “Christianity”. God is not a Christian, a Jew or a Muslim.

For instance you may believe that Jesus is God and to you that may mean that Jesus is The Father or to you it might mean you believe in the trinity of 3 persons 1 God.

Hi BD:

I know that Muslims say that they believe that Jesus is the Christ, but there is more to the scripture that I posted. Let me post it again for you.

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1Jo 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

I believe and know that the following is true by the Holy Spirit of my God who is my Father.

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1Ti 2:5 For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus

Muslims will not confess Jesus Christ as their Lord, and without the blood that was shed for our sins, no man can be saved.

Love in Christ,
Marty

If you believe that Jesus reconciled man to God then “it is finished”

Now is the time that we behave as heirs with Christ and worship the Father in Spirit and Truth.

Jesus is the corner stone and in him the foundation is complete now that we are connected to God we must have faith in God.

In Islam God is worshipped how Jesus worshipped. There are no images, crosses, or any other distraction there is simply the worshipper and God.

May 14, 2009 at 7:07 am#130975

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Hi BD,
Mankind is not reconciled but some men are.

That is why God has given his servants the joyous task of preaching the gospel of reconciliation in Jesus.

He is the only way to the Father and without him God cannot be reached.

May 14, 2009 at 7:18 am#130977

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Hi BD,
Mankind is not reconciled but some men are.

That is why God has given his servants the joyous task of preaching the gospel of reconciliation in Jesus.

He is the only way to the Father and without him God cannot be reached.

But the greater task is always to Glorify God Almighty for this was the main task of Jesus.

John 17:4 (King James Version)

4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.

May 14, 2009 at 7:25 am#130979

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Hi BD,
We need the mediation of The Son.
We are temples in which God is worshiped.

May 14, 2009 at 11:14 pm#131021

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2009,19:25)

Hi BD,
We need the mediation of The Son.
We are temples in which God is worshiped.

Jesus said:

Matthew 15:23-25 (King James Version)

24. But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Matthew 10:5-7 (King James Version)

5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:

6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

According to Jesus himself he was sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Is it true what he said or not?

May 15, 2009 at 12:13 am#131027

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 13 2009,06:47)

Hi BD,
Who is condemning?
Many fine people do lovely things .
It is hoped in God's mercy they will find salvation.

But the way is Jesus.

Hi BD:

Muslims do not believe that Jesus is the Son of God, and so then how can they believe that he is the way?

Love in Christ,
Marty

I'm glad you asked.

Jesus himself said that the heavenly kingdom is not such wherein they marry and such

Even today Mary is considered the Queen of Heaven and The Mother of God. The Quran dispels such misunderstandings and clears the beloved Christ and the Honoured Mary of false allegations

And so,

Do Muslims believe the following scriptures which are central to Christianity?

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1Jo 5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
1Jo 5:10 He that believet
h on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
1Jo 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
1Jo 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; [and] he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

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Act 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

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1Jo 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

Love in Christ,
Marty

I have no problem with us discussing this but you should come from the guidance of the Holy Spirit and not just a massive posting which are not responces based on knowledge.

The Fact is the Quran does call Jesus THE CHRIST and therefore by your own admission is not lying.

Also, Christianity has many doctrines competing so I would want to please God Almighty and not “Christianity”. God is not a Christian, a Jew or a Muslim.

For instance you may believe that Jesus is God and to you that may mean that Jesus is The Father or to you it might mean you believe in the trinity of 3 persons 1 God.

Hi BD:

I know that Muslims say that they believe that Jesus is the Christ, but there is more to the scripture that I posted. Let me post it again for you.

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1Jo 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

I believe and know that the following is true by the Holy Spirit of my God who is my Father.

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1Ti 2:5 For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus

Muslims will not confess Jesus Christ as their Lord, and without the blood that was shed for our sins, no man can be saved.

Love in Christ,
Marty

If you believe that Jesus reconciled man to God then “it is finished”

Now is the time that we behave as heirs with Christ and worship the Father in Spirit and Truth.

Jesus is the corner stone and in him the foundation is complete now that we are connected to God we must have faith in God.

In Islam God is worshipped how Jesus worshipped. There are no images, crosses, or any other distraction there is simply the worshipper and God.

Hi BD:

Jesus is the propitiation for the sins of all of mankind, but unfortunately, not all want to sumbit to God through him, and Muslims say that they are submitted to God but not through him.

No man can worship the Father in Spirit and in truth unless they have the Spirit of truth dwelling within, and no man can have the Spirit of truth dwelling within unless they confess Jesus as Lord and have their sins washed away by the blood that was shed in their behalf.

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1Jo 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

Love in Christ,
Marty

May 15, 2009 at 12:56 am#131032

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Hi BD,
Who is condemning?
Many fine people do lovely things .
It is hoped in God's mercy they will find salvation.

But the way is Jesus.

Hi BD:

Muslims do not believe that Jesus is the Son of God, and so then how can they believe that he is the way?

Love in Christ,
Marty

I'm glad you asked.

Jesus himself said that the heavenly kingdom is not such wherein they marry and such

Even today Mary is considered the Queen of Heaven and The Mother of God. The Quran dispels such misunderstandings and clears the beloved Christ and the Honoured Mary of false allegations

And so,

Do Muslims believe the following scriptures which are central to Christianity?

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Act 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

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1Jo 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

Love in Christ,
Marty

I have no problem with us discussing this but you should come from the guidance of the Holy Spirit and not just a massive posting which are not responces based on knowledge.

The Fact is the Quran does call Jesus THE CHRIST and therefore by your own admission is not lying.

Also, Christianity has many doctrines competing so I would want to please God Almighty and not “Christianity”. God is not a Christian, a Jew or a Muslim.

For instance you may believe that Jesus is God and to you that may mean that Jesus is The Father or to you it might mean you believe in the trinity of 3 persons 1 God.

Hi BD:

I know that Muslims say that they believe that Jesus is the Christ, but there is more to the scripture that I posted. Let me post it again for you.

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1Jo 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

I believe and know that the following is true by the Holy Spirit of my God who is my Father.

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1Ti 2:5 For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus

Muslims will not confess Jesus Christ as their Lord, and without the blood that was shed for our sins, no man can be saved.

Love in Christ,
Marty

If you believe that Jesus reconciled man to God then “it is finished”

Now is the time that we behave as heirs with Christ and worship the Father in Spirit and Truth.

Jesus is the corner stone and in him the foundation is complete now that we are connected to God we must have faith in God.

In Islam God is worshipped how Jesus worshipped. There are no images, crosses, or any other distraction there is simply the worshipper and God.

Hi BD:

Jesus is the propitiation for the sins of all of mankind, but unfortunately, not all want to sumbit to God through him, and Muslims say that they are submitted to God but not through him.

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1Jo 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

Love in Christ,
Marty

Jesus said that he came only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Was Jesus mistaken when he said this?

Matthew 15:23-25 (King James Version)

24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

or this

Matthew 10:5-7 (King James Version)

5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:

6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

May 15, 2009 at 1:35 am#131034

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Hi BD.,
Indeed he was as God's chosen people are first to be offered salvation.
But his words now go around the world inviting gentiles to repent.

May 15, 2009 at 1:45 am#131037

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Hi BD:

Jesus earthly ministry was principally, but not exclusively, to the nation of Israel. The gospel was to be preached to the nation of Israel first, and when all that would be saved through him from that nation were saved, the rest rejected him, then the gospel was to go to all nations.

This is what he said:

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Jhn 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have [it] more abundantly.

Jhn 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.

Jhn 10:12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.

Jhn 10:13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.

Jhn 10:14 I am the good shepherd, and know my [sheep], and am known of mine.

Jhn 10:15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

Jhn 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd.

When he was resurrected and before his asscension into heaven to his position as head of the church at the right hand of the Father, he said:

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Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, [even] unto the end of the world. Amen.

Notice he said to teach all nations.

And the following scripture also confirm this:

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Act 1:4 And, being assembled together with [them], commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, [saith he], ye have heard of me.

Act 1:5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.

Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?

Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

Act 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Love in Christ,
Marty

May 15, 2009 at 2:25 am#131042

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Hi BD.,
Indeed he was as God's chosen people are first to be offered salvation.
But his words now go around the world inviting gentiles to repent.

Nick,

You didn't answer the question.

Who was Jesus Christ sent to according to Jesus?

May 15, 2009 at 2:34 am#131045

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Hi BD:

This is what he said:

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Jhn 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have [it] more abundantly.

Jhn 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.

Jhn 10:13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.

Jhn 10:14 I am the good shepherd, and know my [sheep], and am known of mine.

Jhn 10:15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

Jhn 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd.

When he was resurrected and before his asscension into heaven to his position as head of the church at the right hand of the Father, he said:

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Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, [even] unto the end of the world. Amen.

Notice he said to teach all nations.

And the following scripture also confirm this:

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Act 1:4 And, being assembled together with [them], commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, [saith he], ye have heard of me.

Act 1:5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.

Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?

Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

Love in Christ,
Marty

He commanded them to not go to the gentiles and the lost sheep of Israel had been spread to all nations. Jesus was never sent to the gentiles:

Was Jesus incorrect when he said that he was sent only to the lost sheep of the House of Israel? Yes or No?

May 15, 2009 at 2:39 am#131046

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 15 2009,13:35)

Hi BD.,
Indeed he was as God's chosen people are first to be offered salvation.
But his words now go around the world inviting gentiles to repent.

Nick,

You didn't answer the question.

Who was Jesus Christ sent to according to Jesus?

Hi BD,
Jesus was sent to the Jews and later he sent his brothers to the world.

His eternal words bless all who can hear them and accept them.

May 15, 2009 at 2:51 am#131049

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Hi BD.,
Indeed he was as God's chosen people are first to be offered salvation.
But his words now go around the world inviting gentiles to repent.

Nick,

You didn't answer the question.

Who was Jesus Christ sent to according to Jesus?

Hi BD,
Jesus was sent to the Jews and later he sent his brothers to the world.

His eternal words bless all who can hear them and accept them.

So, your answer is yes. Jesus was sent only to the Jews.

You say he sent his brothers to the world but wasn't he telling them to go to the LOST SHEEP who are spreadout throughout the world.

My point here is that God sends certain people to do certain things. Jesus was not sent to the gentiles but Paul was so you say Muhammad could not be sent to those of his language because of what reason?

May 15, 2009 at 2:55 am#131050

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Hi BD,
No he showed Peter that gentiles too are acceptable wbefore he met Cornelius and Paul said the same thing in different words in Athens.
ALL MUST REPENT

May 15, 2009 at 3:12 am#131053

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Hi BD:

This is what he said:

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Jhn 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have [it] more abundantly.

Jhn 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.

Jhn 10:13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.

Jhn 10:14 I am the good shepherd, and know my [sheep], and am known of mine.

Jhn 10:15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

Jhn 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd.

When he was resurrected and before his asscension into heaven to his position as head of the church at the right hand of the Father, he said:

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Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, [even] unto the end of the world. Amen.

Notice he said to teach all nations.

And the following scripture also confirm this:

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Act 1:4 And, being assembled together with [them], commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, [saith he], ye have heard of me.

Act 1:5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.

Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?

Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

Love in Christ,
Marty

He commanded them to not go to the gentiles and the lost sheep of Israel had been spread to all nations. Jesus was never sent to the gentiles:

Was Jesus incorrect when he said that he was sent only to the lost sheep of the House of Israel? Yes or No?

Hi BD:

I have already given you the answer to your question.

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m 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

Is Jesus your Lord? Yes or no?

Love in Christ,
Marty

May 15, 2009 at 3:23 am#131056