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Hi T8,
I thought the world time was based on Greenwich England's time?
It appears the clock you Posted is E.S.T. (Eastern Standard Time).God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (t8 @ Feb. 27 2011,19:41) Isn't New York the center of the world?
Hi T8,I don't know what you mean by center of the world?
Israel is the center of the Global land masses.
N.Y. is the center of world commerce.
Isn't that what you mean?God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEdj.
The centre of the world was a joke.
Everyone thinks they are the centre and the app defaults to New York I think, so they must be the real centre.Can't find a counter that shows the current numbers of adherents for each religion. On such a clock the numbers of christians would be increasing numerically in line with the increase in world population, but as a percentage of the total world population the numbers of christians would be seen to be falling.
Stuart
If that is the case Stu, then it might be the times spoken of in scripture.
There will be a great falling away (from the truth).
Earthquakes in diverse places with increasing frequency like birth pains of a woman.
People will be lovers of themselves rather than lovers of God.
There will be a great Chernobyl.
Israel will be a country again.If you are right about falling percentages of believers, then that would seem to fit with bible prophecy. So I might agree with you, but I haven't done any research to confirm that I agree with your statement.
A quick google reveals that many think there are about 2.1 billion Christians representing about one-third of humanity.
If that is the case, then was there a time when there was a higher percentage than that?
Like I said, I googled it and looked at the first few links.
Don't have time to check the sources. I am in the middle of a sci-fi video at the mo which takes precedence.
Quote (t8 @ Mar. 26 2011,22:56) If that is the case Stu, then it might be the times spoken of in scripture. There will be a great falling away (from the truth).
Earthquakes in diverse places with increasing frequency like birth pains of a woman.
People will be lovers of themselves rather than lovers of God.
There will be a great Chernobyl.
Israel will be a country again.If you are right about falling percentages of believers, then that would seem to fit with bible prophecy. So I might agree with you, but I haven't done any research to confirm that I agree with your statement.
Let's tick them off then:No falling away from truth, because christianity isn't true;
No increase in the frequency of earthquakes, just a few severe increases in magnitude (are earthquakes like birth pains? How?);
Do people love themselves more than the Judeo-christian god? I don't think that is true, but it would seem to be the moral thing to do;
Chernobyl? Really? Where does scripture say the word Chernobyl? Is this just t8 prophecy we are reading here?;
We are not heading TOWARDS a time when Israel will be a country, it already is one. But then the concept of nation is a new one all across the world so there is nothing particularly special about this. You could argue that Israel was always a “nation” from ancient times that was occupied by various others in the interim.So what happens in these “times” written of in scripture which don't seem to be happening?
Stuart
Some sources claim that there is no / little chance in the percentage of the global population of christians, and that there is just a numerical increase in line with population growth. Looking at the largest christian populations by nation you get statements like these:
The survey of more than 54,000 people conducted between February and November of last year showed that the percentage of Americans identifying as Christians has dropped to 76 percent of the population, down from 86 percent in 1990.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html….09.html
(The problem here is that the question was different in the older survey).The percentages given by different sources are not that clear. There is definitely a trend away from churchgoing in mainstream christianity and there is a clear and significant increase in the numbers with no religion. This is more informative regarding the global trends in christianity:
http://pewforum.org/uploade….ity.pdf
The statistical centre of christianity is moving though Western Africa and must be significantly affected by what happens in Mexico, Brazil and the US, which are the largest christian populations in the world, and of course by increased numbers in sub-Saharan Africa. It looks pretty clear that christianity is falling off rapidly in developed countries with high levels of education and increasing in the undereducated developing world. Obviously the Catholic church is the major player in South America.What does it say about christianity that the most educated turn away from it and the most deprived embrace it? Is that a reflection on the goals of education, or on the substance of christianity? The word educated comes from the Latin educare meaning to draw out. Is christianity something that is not present in humans so cannot be drawn out from them in the way other aspects of “education” can?
In Japan christianity has remained at 1% for the past 450 years.
“The young people have no hatred against Christianity anymore,” said Kaino. “But the churches have no substance and methods to respond to them. This is the major problem.”
http://www.eni.ch/articles/display.shtml?06-0499…no substance…
Stuart
t8 will you too be giving up racoon hunting and joining Mr. Camping in one of his camper vans to warn the world that things are about to come to pass?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news….39.html
Stuart
Sorry I should have spelled that raccoon.
But apparently that won't matter much after 21 May. Or 20 May NZST?
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Mar. 27 2011,06:30) In Japan christianity has remained at 1% for the past 450 years.
What is the point here?They don't believe in God and they have had greater exposure to radiation and more earthquakes than anyone.
My point is that regardless of why, what makes them right? Do they enjoy a greater quality of life? Is that what you are saying? Because I have to disagree if that is your point.
Stu.
You are welcome to point out any stats that say that scriptural teaching is being believed by less.
It is prophesied that such a thing will happen because wickedness is said to increase as we approach the end of the age.Quote (t8 @ Mar. 30 2011,09:07) Quote (Stu @ Mar. 27 2011,06:30) In Japan christianity has remained at 1% for the past 450 years.
What is the point here?They don't believe in God and they have had greater exposure to radiation and more earthquakes than anyone.
My point is that regardless of why, what makes them right? Do they enjoy a greater quality of life? Is that what you are saying? Because I have to disagree if that is your point.
The question I raised was about how the numbers of christians were changing over time, thinking it might be an interesting statistic for a world clock, then finding the statistics are not that straightforward and that probably the proportion of christians in the world is either static or decreasing slightly, giving the interesting example of christianity in Japan where it has remained a tiny fraction for a long time.Will I have to explain all my posts to you t8, or could you maybe read the thread to get the context instead?
Probably the most significant point regarding Japan is that the chap, whoever he was, said that christianity has no substance for young people.
No substance.
Stuart
Quote (t8 @ Mar. 30 2011,09:09) Stu. You are welcome to point out any stats that say that scriptural teaching is being believed by less.
It is prophesied that such a thing will happen because wickedness is said to increase as we approach the end of the age.
But the wicked teaching of scripture is decreasing.So the prophecy must be wrong.
Stuart
Quote (t8 @ Mar. 30 2011,09:07) Quote (Stu @ Mar. 27 2011,06:30) In Japan christianity has remained at 1% for the past 450 years.
What is the point here?They don't believe in God and they have had greater exposure to radiation and more earthquakes than anyone.
My point is that regardless of why, what makes them right? Do they enjoy a greater quality of life? Is that what you are saying? Because I have to disagree if that is your point.
ooooo! nice come back t8
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