Words for worshipingjesus and thinker

[NickHassan]

Hi WJ,
Do you hide your light under a bushell or put it on display?
Whence is your light if you follow Jesus?

Do you know of several lights?

[NickHassan]

Hi WJ,
Jesus was full of light and truth.
Which light?

[NickHassan]

Hi WJ,
God is light and there is no darkness in him.
But God is one and the light for us is found in His Son.

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 27 2009,16:16)

Hi WJ, Do you hide your light under a bushell or put it on display? Whence is your light if you follow Jesus? Do you know of several lights?

NH

Who is the light in you?

WJ

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 27 2009,16:17)

Hi WJ, Jesus was full of light and truth. Which light?

NH

Scripture please!

WJ

[NickHassan]

Hi WJ,
There is only the light of God best shown in the vessel of Christ.
Jesus is the source for men of the light that comes from his God.

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 27 2009,16:18)

Hi WJ, God is light and there is no darkness in him. But God is one and the light for us is found in His Son.

NH

I am glad that you believe God is light.

That was “the true Light“, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. John 1:9

WJ

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 27 2009,16:15)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 28 2009,07:58) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 27 2009,15:41) Quote (thethinker @ June 27 2009,05:02) Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 26 2009,11:11) Quote (thethinker @ June 26 2009,09:57) Bodhitharta said; Quote Did you not see the direct statement “I am God and not Man”? If God says I am God and not Man and you agree that God does not change wouldn't God have to now change to say He is God and became a Man or that He is also a Man? You have to admit the scripture is clear there isn't it? You keep saying God is a man and God is saying it's not true do you still maintain your position even over what God Himself says? bd, No change took place in God's character in His becoming a man. In fact, Hebrews 1 says that Jesus was the “exact representation of His character.” When the Bible says that God does not change the idea is restricted to His character. It doesn't mean that He cannot manifest Himself in various ways for this would involve change. But His character remains unaltered. thinker Hi TT, Was Jesus God or an exact representation of God? Nick, The exact representation is the genuine thing. thinker But is it “the thing” itself? Hi BD Are you saying you can not represent yourself? When you speak like a man and think like a man and reason like a man shall I say you are not a man because your appearance is as a man? Jesus is the “Visible image of God”, God making himself visible! Shall I say that because God who is invisble has made himself visible that the visible image I see of him is not God? Or do you believe that God who is invisible cannot make himself visible? If the image I see of him is not God, then I have a false image of God! WJ Wow! There should have been a lot of dead people. Exodus 33 20 He saith also, `Thou art unable to see My face, for man doth not see Me, and live;'

HI BD

Then you deny the words of Abraham and Moses? Moses saw God and says that he talked to him face to face as to a man!

WJ

[NickHassan]

Hi WJ,
In Christ God visited His people.
While he was in the world he was the light of the world.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 28 2009,08:24)

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 27 2009,16:15) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 28 2009,07:58) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 27 2009,15:41) Quote (thethinker @ June 27 2009,05:02) Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 26 2009,11:11) Quote (thethinker @ June 26 2009,09:57) Bodhitharta said; Quote Did you not see the direct statement “I am God and not Man”? If God says I am God and not Man and you agree that God does not change wouldn't God have to now change to say He is God and became a Man or that He is also a Man? You have to admit the scripture is clear there isn't it? You keep saying God is a man and God is saying it's not true do you still maintain your position even over what God Himself says? bd, No change took place in God's character in His becoming a man. In fact, Hebrews 1 says that Jesus was the “exact representation of His character.” When the Bible says that God does not change the idea is restricted to His character. It doesn't mean that He cannot manifest Himself in various ways for this would involve change. But His character remains unaltered. thinker Hi TT, Was Jesus God or an exact representation of God? Nick, The exact representation is the genuine thing. thinker But is it “the thing” itself? Hi BD Are you saying you can not represent yourself? When you speak like a man and think like a man and reason like a man shall I say you are not a man because your appearance is as a man? Jesus is the “Visible image of God”, God making himself visible! Shall I say that because God who is invisble has made himself visible that the visible image I see of him is not God? Or do you believe that God who is invisible cannot make himself visible? If the image I see of him is not God, then I have a false image of God! WJ Wow! There should have been a lot of dead people. Exodus 33 20 He saith also, `Thou art unable to see My face, for man doth not see Me, and live;' HI BD Then you deny the words of Abraham and Moses? Moses saw God and says that he talked to him face to face as to a man! WJ

Don't blame me if the Bible is not consistent the Quran says that it has been tampered with, so which is true can you see the face of God and live or not?

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
You will only hear what your master teaches.
The given Lord you must despise.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 28 2009,09:46)

Hi BD, You will only hear what your master teaches. The given Lord you must despise.

God is my Lord, don't you acknowledge THE LORD GOD?

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 27 2009,17:00)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 28 2009,08:24) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 27 2009,16:15) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 28 2009,07:58) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 27 2009,15:41) Quote (thethinker @ June 27 2009,05:02) Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 26 2009,11:11) Quote (thethinker @ June 26 2009,09:57) Bodhitharta said; Quote Did you not see the direct statement “I am God and not Man”? If God says I am God and not Man and you agree that God does not change wouldn't God have to now change to say He is God and became a Man or that He is also a Man? You have to admit the scripture is clear there isn't it? You keep saying God is a man and God is saying it's not true do you still maintain your position even over what God Himself says? bd, No change took place in God's character in His becoming a man. In fact, Hebrews 1 says that Jesus was the “exact representation of His character.” When the Bible says that God does not change the idea is restricted to His character. It doesn't mean that He cannot manifest Himself in various ways for this would involve change. But His character remains unaltered. thinker Hi TT, Was Jesus God or an exact representation of God? Nick, The exact representation is the genuine thing. thinker But is it “the thing” itself? Hi BD Are you saying you can not represent yourself? When you speak like a man and think like a man and reason like a man shall I say you are not a man because your appearance is as a man? Jesus is the “Visible image of God”, God making himself visible! Shall I say that because God who is invisble has made himself visible that the visible image I see of him is not God? Or do you believe that God who is invisible cannot make himself visible? If the image I see of him is not God, then I have a false image of God! WJ Wow! There should have been a lot of dead people. Exodus 33 20 He saith also, `Thou art unable to see My face, for man doth not see Me, and live;' HI BD Then you deny the words of Abraham and Moses? Moses saw God and says that he talked to him face to face as to a man! WJ Don't blame me if the Bible is not consistent the Quran says that it has been tampered with, so which is true can you see the face of God and live or not?

Hi BD

Its not inconsistent unless you are a nontrinitarian.

So what you are saying is the quran is greater than the Bible for it corrects all the biblical errors, right?

No mortal man can see God in all of his glory and live and yet Jesus said that he did.

But God just as he did with Moses revealed himself so that Moses could see him, yet the children of Israel did not want to see even the Glory on Moses face.

Jesus is the visible image of God and he said…

If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, “and have seen him“. John 14:7

Jesus is YHWH that Abraham and Moses saw!

Blessings WJ

[bodhitharta]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 28 2009,16:31)

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 27 2009,17:00) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 28 2009,08:24) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 27 2009,16:15) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 28 2009,07:58) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 27 2009,15:41) Quote (thethinker @ June 27 2009,05:02) Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 26 2009,11:11) Quote (thethinker @ June 26 2009,09:57) Bodhitharta said; Quote Did you not see the direct statement “I am God and not Man”? If God says I am God and not Man and you agree that God does not change wouldn't God have to now change to say He is God and became a Man or that He is also a Man? You have to admit the scripture is clear there isn't it? You keep saying God is a man and God is saying it's not true do you still maintain your position even over what God Himself says? bd, No change took place in God's character in His becoming a man. In fact, Hebrews 1 says that Jesus was the “exact representation of His character.” When the Bible says that God does not change the idea is restricted to His character. It doesn't mean that He cannot manifest Himself in various ways for this would involve change. But His character remains unaltered. thinker Hi TT, Was Jesus God or an exact representation of God? Nick, The exact representation is the genuine thing. thinker But is it “the thing” itself? Hi BD Are you saying you can not represent yourself? When you speak like a man and think like a man and reason like a man shall I say you are not a man because your appearance is as a man? Jesus is the “Visible image of God”, God making himself visible! Shall I say that because God who is invisble has made himself visible that the visible image I see of him is not God? Or do you believe that God who is invisible cannot make himself visible? If the image I see of him is not God, then I have a false image of God! WJ Wow! There should have been a lot of dead people. Exodus 33 20 He saith also, `Thou art unable to see My face, for man doth not see Me, and live;' HI BD Then you deny the words of Abraham and Moses? Moses saw God and says that he talked to him face to face as to a man! WJ Don't blame me if the Bible is not consistent the Quran says that it has been tampered with, so which is true can you see the face of God and live or not? Hi BD Its not inconsistent unless you are a nontrinitarian. So what you are saying is the quran is greater than the Bible for it corrects all the biblical errors, right? No mortal man can see God in all of his glory and live and yet Jesus said that he did. But God just as he did with Moses revealed himself so that Moses could see him, yet the children of Israel did not want to see even the Glory on Moses face. Jesus is the visible image of God and he said… If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, “and have seen him“. John 14:7 Jesus is YHWH that Abraham and Moses saw! Blessings WJ

Aren't you just speculating?

Was Jesus hung on a cross or a tree?

[Worshipping Jesus]

Hi BD

And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: “and they shall look upon me (YHWH) whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. Zech 12:10

And again another scripture saith, They shall look on him whom they pierced. John 19:37

John ascribes Zech 12:10 to Jesus as YHWH being pierced!

What difference does it make if it was a tree or a cross?

Learn more about this here…

WJ

[NickHassan]

Hi WJ,
God is united with His son.
God was in him reconciling the world to himself.
Again when Jesus Christ returns as King God will be among His people.[Ps2, rev21]

[KangarooJack]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 28 2009,07:29)

Hi TT, So the light of Jesus to you is not the light of God? God was in him.

Nick,
I said “Who else but God can be the genuine Light?

thinker

[KangarooJack]

WorshippingJesus said to bodhitharat:

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Are you saying you can not represent yourself? When you speak like a man and think like a man and reason like a man shall I say you are not a man because your appearance is as a man? Jesus is the “Visible image of God”, God making himself visible! Shall I say that because God who is invisble has made himself visible that the visible image I see of him is not God? Or do you believe that God who is invisible cannot make himself visible? If the image I see of him is not God, then I have a false image of God!

WJ,
Exactly!

thinker

[NickHassan]

Hi WJ,
You say
“Jesus is the “Visible image of God”, God making himself visible!”

When is an image not an image.
When WJ says it is still the original.

My Questions for you

Was God in Christ?
Was God with Jesus?
Was Jesus anointed by God with the Holy Spirit and power?

[KangarooJack]

Nick said to WJ:

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Was God in Christ? Was God with Jesus? Was Jesus anointed by God with the Holy Spirit and power?

The answer is yes to all the above. And the key is the past tense verb “was.” Since Christ is no longer in the flesh now, but has returned to His glory then none of the above is true now.

thinker

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