Will the wicked be saved?

[terraricca]

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Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 14 2010,11:34) Quote (Baker @ Sep. 14 2010,14:22) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 14 2010,00:22) Quote (Baker @ Sep. 14 2010,00:53) Quote (JustAskin @ Sep. 13 2010,03:16) George… Please accept my apology … the post was meant for Jerry – Chosenone – Co. I somehow got your names mixed up. You will see that I am making a pointed statement to someone that CLEARLY does not apply to you (does it). Even as I apologise I ask though, what did you think when you read it that you ACCEPTED it and made the 'pointless, empty' response. The content is clearly, I say again, not applicable to you …is it? Anyone can say “Were you looking in the mirror…” – The Jews could even have said that to Jesus when he was admonishing them – Yes, could have said it – if they felt  enough GUILT – because such flippant remarks come from that source – do they not, George? But yet, I say once more, I'm sorry George, the post was directed at Jerry but I got your name in my head some how. (But perhaps – now I see the response from to a pointed statement that was mistakenly set in your name perhaps it  wasn't a mistake – perhaps my mind was GUIDED to place your name there!) I make a lot of pointless responses to a lot of pointless points, especially when I'm bored. Reading all of this nonsense is almost funnier then AFV; do you really think any one is taking any of this serious? Georg georg i do,do you really think that God is a joker? we will be judge by the words of our mouth, and in all things we do or not do, NOW IF WE DO NOT SEE THINGS THE WAY GOD AND DOES WERE IS THAT PUT US ?? NOT ON GOD SIDE . Pierre You see, Pierre, every body here is ignoring scriptures, just as you do; you call that taking things serious? I sure don't. Georg georg sinse you have your lips wide open ,show me the scriptures i have ignored Pierre YOU IGNORE ALL SCRIPTURES, OR SOME HOW AVBOID THEM, WHO DO YOU THINK YOUR FOOLING? Georg

georg

you are still talking about you two pages of ;Daniel and revelation.

you still have to clear up Daniel 2;44

so i wait and see

Pierre

[chosenone]

Pierre.
You obviosly don't understand “correctly cutting the word of truth”.

You quote from 'James', Did you not read the opening verse? I'll copy it for you…

James1:1… James, a slave of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes in the dispersion. Rejoice!
Notice to whom it is written, you dont seem to understand scripture when read in context, you just assume all is about us.

Quotes from Luke are likewise not written about us.

You have much to learn about scripture, I find it useless trying to explain to you what “correctly cutting the word of truth” means, you keep ignoring those words to make your false interpetation of scripture say what you believe, but is in fact, error.

Also, you haven't replied to my request… “Just one last request… give me “your opinion” of what Jesus' sacrifice accomplished. How did this benefit you? What has changed for you? What did it do for you that changed from how it would been if He hadn't done this”?

Jerry.

[terraricca]

Quote (chosenone @ Sep. 16 2010,19:20)

Pierre.   You obviosly don't understand “correctly cutting the word of truth”. You quote from 'James', Did you not read the opening verse?  I'll copy it for you… James1:1…  James, a slave of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes in the dispersion. Rejoice!    Notice to whom it is written, you dont seem to understand scripture when read in context, you just assume all is about us.   Quotes from Luke are likewise not written about us.   You have much to learn about scripture, I find it useless trying to explain to you what “correctly cutting the word of truth” means, you keep ignoring those words to make your false interpetation of scripture say what you believe, but is in fact, error.   Also, you haven't replied to my request…  “Just one last request… give me “your opinion” of what Jesus' sacrifice accomplished.  How did this benefit you?  What has changed for you?  What did it do for you that changed from how it would been if He hadn't done this”? Jerry.

CO

again you do not have knowledge;according to experts;Next as to the justification passage. This has given rise to endless debate. (1) Was it written independently of St Paul? If so, probably before St Paul wrote on the subject, and therefore at a very early date. Or (2) was it written to correct St Paul? Or (3) to correct a perverse misunderstanding of St Paul? (2) and (3) of course imply a date subsequent to Galatians and Romans, i.e. after 58.

the letter of James was written in or around 58 ad.

now;;Ac 10:1 At Caesarea there was a man named Cornelius, a centurion in what was known as the Italian Regiment.
Ac 10:3 One day at about three in the afternoon he had a vision. He distinctly saw an angel of God, who came to him and said, “Cornelius!”
Ac 10:4 Cornelius stared at him in fear. “What is it, Lord?” he asked.
The angel answered, “Your prayers and gifts to the poor have come up as a memorial offering before God.
Ac 10:7 When the angel who spoke to him had gone, Cornelius called two of his servants and a devout soldier who was one of his attendants.
Ac 10:17 While Peter was wondering about the meaning of the vision, the men sent by Cornelius found out where Simon’s house was and stopped at the gate.
Ac 10:22 The men replied, “We have come from Cornelius the centurion. He is a righteous and God-fearing man, who is respected by all the Jewish people. A holy angel told him to have you come to his house so that he could hear what you have to say.”
Ac 10:24 The following day he arrived in Caesarea. Cornelius was expecting them and had called together his relatives and close friends.
Ac 10:25 As Peter entered the house, Cornelius met him and fell at his feet in reverence.
Ac 10:30 Cornelius answered: “Four days ago I was in my house praying at this hour, at three in the afternoon. Suddenly a man in shining clothes stood before me
Ac 10:31 and said, ‘Cornelius, God has heard your prayer and remembered your gifts to the poor.

Ac 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
Ac 10:35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
Ac 10:36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)
Ac 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;
Ac 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
Ac 10:39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:
Ac 10:40 Him God raised up the third day, and showed him openly;
Ac 10:41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.
Ac 10:42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.
Ac 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
Ac 10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
Ac 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Ac 10:46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
Ac 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

NOW THIS STORY HAPPEN ABOUT 3.5 YEARS AFTER CHRIST DEAD,SO THIS WOULD BE ABOUT THE YEAR 36 AD,

SO YOUR COMMENT IS NOT VALID AND FOR THAT REASON NOT SCRIPTURAL.

[chosenone]

Pierre.
You missed my point, LOOK AT JAMES1:1, it explains to whom this epistle was to… Very important to “correctly cut the word of TRUTH”.

Also, you failed to respond to my question…

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Also, you haven't replied to my request… “Just one last request… give me “your opinion” of what Jesus' sacrifice accomplished. How did this benefit you? What has changed for you? What did it do for you that changed from how it would been if He hadn't done this”?

I wait your answer.

Jerry.

[terraricca]

Quote (chosenone @ Sep. 17 2010,12:10)

Pierre.   You missed my point, LOOK AT JAMES1:1, it explains to whom this epistle was to… Very important to “correctly cut the word of TRUTH”.   Also, you failed to respond to my question… Quote Also, you haven't replied to my request…  “Just one last request… give me “your opinion” of what Jesus' sacrifice accomplished.  How did this benefit you?  What has changed for you?  What did it do for you that changed from how it would been if He hadn't done this”?   I wait your answer. Jerry.

CO

on James you are missing the point,it is you who do not understand and i will not tell you because i do not have to.

Christ sacrifice as been made to reconcile men with God.
this as so given me the opportunity to be reconciled with God my father,but to be complete i have to love him for what he did for me and so do his will according to the teachings of his son and his son disciples.this is my deep appreciation for that sacrifice.

Pierre

[chosenone]

Pierre.
Thanks for your explanation, now I know why you are so completely mixed up.

Jerry.

[terraricca]

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Pierre.   Thanks for your explanation, now I know why you are so completely mixed up. Jerry.

CO

yea,

[Baker]

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Quote (Baker @ Sep. 16 2010,18:05) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 14 2010,11:34) Quote (Baker @ Sep. 14 2010,14:22) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 14 2010,00:22) Quote (Baker @ Sep. 14 2010,00:53) Quote (JustAskin @ Sep. 13 2010,03:16) George… Please accept my apology … the post was meant for Jerry – Chosenone – Co. I somehow got your names mixed up. You will see that I am making a pointed statement to someone that CLEARLY does not apply to you (does it). Even as I apologise I ask though, what did you think when you read it that you ACCEPTED it and made the 'pointless, empty' response. The content is clearly, I say again, not applicable to you …is it? Anyone can say “Were you looking in the mirror…” – The Jews could even have said that to Jesus when he was admonishing them – Yes, could have said it – if they felt  enough GUILT – because such flippant remarks come from that source – do they not, George? But yet, I say once more, I'm sorry George, the post was directed at Jerry but I got your name in my head some how. (But perhaps – now I see the response from to a pointed statement that was mistakenly set in your name perhaps it  wasn't a mistake – perhaps my mind was GUIDED to place your name there!) I make a lot of pointless responses to a lot of pointless points, especially when I'm bored. Reading all of this nonsense is almost funnier then AFV; do you really think any one is taking any of this serious? Georg georg i do,do you really think that God is a joker? we will be judge by the words of our mouth, and in all things we do or not do, NOW IF WE DO NOT SEE THINGS THE WAY GOD AND DOES WERE IS THAT PUT US ?? NOT ON GOD SIDE . Pierre You see, Pierre, every body here is ignoring scriptures, just as you do; you call that taking things serious? I sure don't. Georg georg sinse you have your lips wide open ,show me the scriptures i have ignored Pierre YOU IGNORE ALL SCRIPTURES, OR SOME HOW AVBOID THEM, WHO DO YOU THINK YOUR FOOLING? Georg georg you are still talking about you two pages of ;Daniel and revelation. you still have to clear up Daniel 2;44 so i wait and see Pierre

TERRARICCA, alias PIERRE

You keep asking about Dan. 2:44; WHAT IS IT THAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, AND WANT TO KNOW????

TELL ME ALREADY!

Georg

[terraricca]

georg

yea;;;

[Baker]

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georg yea;;;

Don't look now, but your ignorance is showing.

Georg

[terraricca]

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Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 18 2010,09:48) georg yea;;; Don't look now, but your ignorance is showing. Georg

georg

this is not a boxing ring.

Pierre

[Baker]

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you still have to clear up Daniel 2;44 so i wait and see Pierre

Dan 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

“In the days of these kings”
Kings represent nation, they are the once who have joint the beast/government mentioned in Rev. 17.

Rev 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings (nation), which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast (government).

If you don't believe this was the “League of Nation”, then you tell me; who was it?

Rev 17:13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

What type of government would you say fits this description better then the “League of Nation”?

Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

This is describing the “United Nation”, it is the eighth that came out of the seven.
If you disagree, tell me who is the eighth?
Just as the “ten horns” represent the League of Nation, so do the “ten toes” represent the “United Nation”.
They are mans last attempt to rule the world by a “One World Government”, and it is “this” government that will be hit on its “feet” by “that” STONE.
Aaaand, it has been during the time of “these” kings, United Nation, that the God of heaven has been “setting up” his kingdom that will rule the world.

Now lets see if you're man enough to respond to this with out any double talk.

Georg

[terraricca]

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Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2010,11:58) you still have to clear up Daniel 2;44 so i wait and see Pierre Dan 2:44   And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.   “In the days of these kings” Kings represent nation, they are the once who have joint the beast/government mentioned in Rev. 17. Rev 17:12   And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings (nation), which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast (government). If you don't believe this was the “League of Nation”, then you tell me; who was it?   Rev 17:13   These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.   What type of government would you say fits this description better then the “League of Nation”? Rev 17:11   And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.   This is describing the “United Nation”, it is the eighth that came out of the seven. If you disagree, tell me who is the eighth? Just as the “ten horns” represent the League of Nation, so do the “ten toes” represent the “United Nation”. They are mans last attempt to rule the world by a “One World Government”, and it is “this” government that will be hit on its “feet” by “that” STONE. Aaaand, it has been during the time of “these” kings, United Nation, that the God of heaven has been “setting up” his kingdom that will rule the world. Now lets see if you're man enough to respond to this with out any double talk. Georg

georg

go to the other topic ,we already discus this in the beast of revelation.

Pierre

[Baker]

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Quote (Baker @ Sep. 20 2010,03:58) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2010,11:58) you still have to clear up Daniel 2;44 so i wait and see Pierre Dan 2:44   And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.   “In the days of these kings” Kings represent nation, they are the once who have joint the beast/government mentioned in Rev. 17. Rev 17:12   And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings (nation), which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast (government). If you don't believe this was the “League of Nation”, then you tell me; who was it?   Rev 17:13   These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.   What type of government would you say fits this description better then the “League of Nation”? Rev 17:11   And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.   This is describing the “United Nation”, it is the eighth that came out of the seven. If you disagree, tell me who is the eighth? Just as the “ten horns” represent the League of Nation, so do the “ten toes” represent the “United Nation”. They are mans last attempt to rule the world by a “One World Government”, and it is “this” government that will be hit on its “feet” by “that” STONE. Aaaand, it has been during the time of “these” kings, United Nation, that the God of heaven has been “setting up” his kingdom that will rule the world. Now lets see if you're man enough to respond to this with out any double talk. Georg georg go to the other topic ,we already discus this in the beast of revelation. Pierre

Are you trying to jerk me around?
What foolishness are playing?
Come back when you're sober!

Georg

[terraricca]

geog sayAre you trying to jerk me around?
What foolishness are playing?
Come back when you're sober!

Georg

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just see in ;prophesy

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Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2010,11:58) you still have to clear up Daniel 2;44 so i wait and see Pierre Dan 2:44   And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.   “In the days of these kings” Kings represent nation, they are the once who have joint the beast/government mentioned in Rev. 17. Rev 17:12   And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings (nation), which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast (government). If you don't believe this was the “League of Nation”, then you tell me; who was it?   Rev 17:13   These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.   What type of government would you say fits this description better then the “League of Nation”? Rev 17:11   And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.   This is describing the “United Nation”, it is the eighth that came out of the seven. If you disagree, tell me who is the eighth? Just as the “ten horns” represent the League of Nation, so do the “ten toes” represent the “United Nation”. They are mans last attempt to rule the world by a “One World Government”, and it is “this” government that will be hit on its “feet” by “that” STONE. Aaaand, it has been during the time of “these” kings, United Nation, that the God of heaven has been “setting up” his kingdom that will rule the world. Now lets see if you're man enough to respond to this with out any double talk. Georg

Just as I figured, you're no man at all; just all mouth.
All along you been asking me to explain to you Dan. 2:44, now that I have done that, again, you run.

Georg

[terraricca]

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Quote (Baker @ Sep. 19 2010,20:58) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2010,11:58) you still have to clear up Daniel 2;44 so i wait and see Pierre Dan 2:44   And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.   “In the days of these kings” Kings represent nation, they are the once who have joint the beast/government mentioned in Rev. 17. Rev 17:12   And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings (nation), which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast (government). If you don't believe this was the “League of Nation”, then you tell me; who was it?   Rev 17:13   These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.   What type of government would you say fits this description better then the “League of Nation”? Rev 17:11   And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.   This is describing the “United Nation”, it is the eighth that came out of the seven. If you disagree, tell me who is the eighth? Just as the “ten horns” represent the League of Nation, so do the “ten toes” represent the “United Nation”. They are mans last attempt to rule the world by a “One World Government”, and it is “this” government that will be hit on its “feet” by “that” STONE. Aaaand, it has been during the time of “these” kings, United Nation, that the God of heaven has been “setting up” his kingdom that will rule the world. Now lets see if you're man enough to respond to this with out any double talk. Georg Just as I figured, you're no man at all; just all mouth. All along you been asking me to explain to you Dan. 2:44, now that I have done that, again, you run. Georg

georg

you have not explain Daniel 2;40 -44 and 7;the 4 beasts

the only questions i have ask you is ;are the legs and feet with toes the Roman empire ??

in Daniel 7; the fourth beast is that represent the ROMAN empire???

you have never answered me

Pierre

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