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    Ed J
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    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,16:06)

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    Let me ask you something, Ed.

    What was it that other kings tried to establish ever since the Roman empire collapsed; like all the “holy Roman emperors, napoleon, even the German kaiser? was it not world dominance?
    Only after the first WW, the nation got tired of fighting each other, and sought up a better way to accomplish that.
    So they got together and formed a league, a League of nation; it came into being in 1918, after WWI.
    But they were unsuccessful in preventing wars, Mussolini attacked Ethiopia; Japan attacked Manchuria; and Germany attacked Poland.
    So by the end of WWII, the League was dissolved, 1918 – 1945, a very short time.
    But, already a new beast was formed, the eighth, the “United Nation”; why does it say the eighth is of the seven? because the eighth is the same as the seventh, it changed in name only.

    Georg


    Hi Georg,

    So what the Seventh Empire then?

    God bless
    Ed J


    Are you blind, or just pretending?

    Georg


    League of nations?


    You're playing religious politics; are you a democrat?

    Georg


    Hi Goerg,

    No, did I guess right? is that what    
    you believe the Seventh Empire was?

    God bless
    Ed J


    Why do you keep repeating the question? did I not make that plain to you?

    Georg


    Hi Georg,

    Actually no you didn't.
    Is it the 'league of Nations'
    you believe is the Seventh Empire?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #315032
    Pastry
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,16:10)

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,16:06)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,15:53)

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,15:13)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,15:09)

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,15:07)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,15:05)

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,14:54)
    Let me ask you something, Ed.

    What was it that other kings tried to establish ever since the Roman empire collapsed; like all the “holy Roman emperors, napoleon, even the German kaiser? was it not world dominance?
    Only after the first WW, the nation got tired of fighting each other, and sought up a better way to accomplish that.
    So they got together and formed a league, a League of nation; it came into being in 1918, after WWI.
    But they were unsuccessful in preventing wars, Mussolini attacked Ethiopia; Japan attacked Manchuria; and Germany attacked Poland.
    So by the end of WWII, the League was dissolved, 1918 – 1945, a very short time.
    But, already a new beast was formed, the eighth, the “United Nation”; why does it say the eighth is of the seven? because the eighth is the same as the seventh, it changed in name only.

    Georg


    Hi Georg,

    So what the Seventh Empire then?

    God bless
    Ed J


    Are you blind, or just pretending?

    Georg


    League of nations?


    You're playing religious politics; are you a democrat?

    Georg


    Hi Goerg,

    No, did I guess right? is that what    
    you believe the Seventh Empire was?

    God bless
    Ed J


    Why do you keep repeating the question? did I not make that plain to you?

    Georg


    Hi Georg,

    Actually no you didn't.
    Is it the 'league of Nations'
    you believe is the Seventh Empire?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    You did not read this?

    So by the end of WWII, the League was dissolved, 1918 – 1945, a very short time.
    But, already a new beast was formed, the eighth, the “United Nation”; why does it say the eighth is of the seven? because the eighth is the same as the seventh, it changed in name only.

    Georg

    #315034
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,16:14)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,16:10)
    Hi Georg,

    Actually no you didn't.
    Is it the 'league of Nations'
    you believe is the Seventh Empire?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    You did not read this?

    So by the end of WWII, the League was dissolved, 1918 – 1945, a very short time.
    But, already a new beast was formed, the eighth, the “United Nation”; why does it say the eighth is of the seven? because the eighth is the same as the seventh, it changed in name only.

    Georg


    So, is that a yes or a no?

    #315037
    Pastry
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,16:17)

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,16:14)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,16:10)
    Hi Georg,

    Actually no you didn't.
    Is it the 'league of Nations'
    you believe is the Seventh Empire?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    You did not read this?

    So by the end of WWII, the League was dissolved, 1918 – 1945, a very short time.
    But, already a new beast was formed, the eighth, the “United Nation”; why does it say the eighth is of the seven? because the eighth is the same as the seventh, it changed in name only.

    Georg


    So, is that a yes or a no?


    Do you need the whole picture too?

    Georg

    #315039
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,16:22)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,16:17)

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,16:14)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,16:10)
    Hi Georg,

    Actually no you didn't.
    Is it the 'league of Nations'
    you believe is the Seventh Empire?

    God bless
    Ed J


    You did not read this?

    So by the end of WWII, the League was dissolved, 1918 – 1945, a very short time.
    But, already a new beast was formed, the eighth, the “United Nation”; why does it say the eighth is of the seven? because the eighth is the same as the seventh, it changed in name only.

    Georg


    So, is that a yes or a no?


    Do you need the whole picture too?

    Georg


    Hi Georg,

    Right now, the only question I have for you is:
    What do you believe the Seventh Empire was?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #315040
    Pastry
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,16:26)

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,16:22)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,16:17)

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,16:14)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,16:10)
    Hi Georg,

    Actually no you didn't.
    Is it the 'league of Nations'
    you believe is the Seventh Empire?

    God bless
    Ed J


    You did not read this?

    So by the end of WWII, the League was dissolved, 1918 – 1945, a very short time.
    But, already a new beast was formed, the eighth, the “United Nation”; why does it say the eighth is of the seven? because the eighth is the same as the seventh, it changed in name only.

    Georg


    So, is that a yes or a no?


    Do you need the whole picture too?

    Georg


    Hi Georg,

    Right now, the only question I have for you is:
    What do you believe the Seventh Empire was?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    The League of Nation.

    Georg

    #315044
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote
    Hi Journey42,

    OK, now Let me take the liberty
    of piecing it together for you the way you see it.

    1. The wicked one is the false prophet.
    2. Destroyed, when he is cast into the lake of fire.
    3. By the word on a white horse with a sword coming out of his mouth.

    Therefore to you, 'the son of perdition' means the son going into perdition via the lake of fire, yes?

    Edj

    1.  Yes
    2.  Yes
    3.  Yes

    Son of Perdition means he is Satan's Son.  The false prophets father is Satan himself. Satan has children.
    To prove it I give you the following verse.

    John 8:44   Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

    Satan has many sons, but this particular Son is used by Satan for one purpose.  To kill and destroy as many as possible.  This one, Satan gives all his power to carry out his plan.
    He could also be Satan's real son?  We don't know.  The angels had sex with women before the flood and produced children.  These angels were locked up.  Satan didn't do it himself then, but possible he could do the same thing himself in this case to produce his very own son.  He likes to copy God as well, as God has a Son.  Satan knows his time is short, so he's desperate.

    It doesn't say Wicked one.  It just says Wicked.  But yes, it has to be the false prophet because it says;
    the Lord destroys him at his coming.

    2 Thess 2:8   And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming.

    Lets compare the False prophet to Satan;  
    Satan is not destroyed at the Lords coming, but is locked up, bound for a thousand years.  So this eliminates Satan as “that Wicked” in that particular verse.

    This Son of Perdition who is consumed by the Spirit of the Lords mouth (The Sword…The Word that judges) is cast into the Lake of fire
    and we know this because we connect with this scripture……..

    Rev 19:20   And the beast was taken, AND WITH HIM, the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, which which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshiped his image.  THESE BOTH, were CAST ALIVE into a Lake of fire burning with brimstone.

    #315045
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,16:28)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,16:26)

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,16:22)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,16:17)

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,16:14)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,16:10)
    Hi Georg,

    Actually no you didn't.
    Is it the 'league of Nations'
    you believe is the Seventh Empire?

    God bless
    Ed J


    You did not read this?

    So by the end of WWII, the League was dissolved, 1918 – 1945, a very short time.
    But, already a new beast was formed, the eighth, the “United Nation”; why does it say the eighth is of the seven? because the eighth is the same as the seventh, it changed in name only.

    Georg


    So, is that a yes or a no?


    Do you need the whole picture too?

    Georg


    Hi Georg,

    Right now, the only question I have for you is:
    What do you believe the Seventh Empire was?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    The League of Nation.

    Georg


    Pastry.

    The league of nations=the 7th you say:
    The U.N is the 8th yousay:

    I must disagree; because the 8th was before John.
    it existed before John,and before the roman empire.
    How can it be the U.N.

    wakeup.

    #315049
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 07 2012,16:41)

    Quote
    Hi Journey42,

    OK, now Let me take the liberty
    of piecing it together for you the way you see it.

    1. The wicked one is the false prophet.
    2. Destroyed, when he is cast into the lake of fire.
    3. By the word on a white horse with a sword coming out of his mouth.

    Therefore to you, 'the son of perdition' means the son going into perdition via the lake of fire, yes?

    Edj

    1.  Yes
    2.  Yes
    3.  Yes

    Son of Perdition means he is Satan's Son.  The false prophets father is Satan himself.  Satan has children.
    To prove it I give you the following verse.

    John 8:44   Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

    Satan has many sons, but this particular Son is used by Satan for one purpose.  To kill and destroy as many as possible.  This one, Satan gives all his power to carry out his plan.
    He could also be Satan's real son?  We don't know.  The angels had sex with women before the flood and produced children.  These angels were locked up.  Satan didn't do it himself then, but possible he could do the same thing himself in this case to produce his very own son.  He likes to copy God as well, as God has a Son.  Satan knows his time is short, so he's desperate.

    It doesn't say Wicked one.  It just says Wicked.  But yes, it has to be the false prophet because it says;
    the Lord destroys him at his coming.

    2 Thess 2:8   And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming.

    Lets compare the False prophet to Satan;  
    Satan is not destroyed at the Lords coming, but is locked up, bound for a thousand years.  So this eliminates Satan as “that Wicked” in that particular verse.

    This Son of Perdition who is consumed by the Spirit of the Lords mouth (The Sword…The Word that judges) is cast into the Lake of fire
    and we know this because we connect with this scripture……..

    Rev 19:20   And the beast was taken, AND WITH HIM, the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, which which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshiped his image.  THESE BOTH, were CAST ALIVE into a Lake of fire burning with brimstone.


    Hi Georgie,

    So, is that a yes or a no then?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #315052
    Pastry
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 07 2012,16:42)

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,16:28)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,16:26)

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,16:22)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,16:17)

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,16:14)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,16:10)
    Hi Georg,

    Actually no you didn't.
    Is it the 'league of Nations'
    you believe is the Seventh Empire?

    God bless
    Ed J


    You did not read this?

    So by the end of WWII, the League was dissolved, 1918 – 1945, a very short time.
    But, already a new beast was formed, the eighth, the “United Nation”; why does it say the eighth is of the seven? because the eighth is the same as the seventh, it changed in name only.

    Georg


    So, is that a yes or a no?


    Do you need the whole picture too?

    Georg


    Hi Georg,

    Right now, the only question I have for you is:
    What do you believe the Seventh Empire was?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    The League of Nation.

    Georg


    Pastry.

    The league of nations=the 7th you say:
    The U.N is the 8th yousay:

    I must disagree; because the 8th was before John.
    it existed before John,and before the roman empire.
    How can it be the U.N.

    wakeup.


    Well, then you tell me who was the seventh that became the eighth.

    Or better, let me show you this.
    Rome is the sixth head/empire; the western leg lasted till 565, that is when Justinian died, he was the last emperor of the east, and the west.
    565 Ad, John died by the end of the first century.
    He was told the seventh had not yet come; so how can you say the eighth was before John, or even before Rome?

    Georg

    #315055
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Georg, it's good to ask questions, that's how we learn!

    The Ottoman Empire (islamic) was the Seventh Empire that suffered a deadly wound.
    And it was healed by Muhammadin-islam, which is the Eighth Empire that we are now in.

    The false prophet Muhammad is depicted in Rev.13:11 as a two horned lamb
    that speaks like a dragon. The two horns represent Sunni and Shiite muslims.


                 
       The quranic Prophecy (see Gal.1:8 and 2Cor.11:14)

    “And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come
    down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men” (Rev 13:13)


    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #315067
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,17:08)
    Hi Georg, it's good to ask questions, that's how we learn!

    The Ottoman Empire (islamic) was the Seventh Empire that suffered a deadly wound.
    And it was healed by Muhammadin-islam, which is the Eighth Empire that we are now in.

    The false prophet Muhammad is depicted in Rev.13:11 as a two horned lamb
    that speaks like a dragon. The two horns represent Sunni and Shiite muslims.


                 
       The quranic Prophecy (see Gal.1:8 and 2Cor.11:14)

    “And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come
    down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men” (Rev 13:13)


    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    What about the arab muslems,they are not suni nor shiite.

    You call the muslems today an empire?
    What sort of an empire is it,an empire that get hand outs.
    an empire killing each other.

    How can a kingdom stand if its is killing each other?

    wakeup.

    #315075
    Pastry
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,17:08)
    Hi Georg, it's good to ask questions, that's how we learn!

    The Ottoman Empire (islamic) was the Seventh Empire that suffered a deadly wound.
    And it was healed by Muhammadin-islam, which is the Eighth Empire that we are now in.

    The false prophet Muhammad is depicted in Rev.13:11 as a two horned lamb
    that speaks like a dragon. The two horns represent Sunni and Shiite muslims.


                 
       The quranic Prophecy (see Gal.1:8 and 2Cor.11:14)

    “And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come
    down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men” (Rev 13:13)


    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed, are you and wakeup related? you have to be.

    Georg

    #315079
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 07 2012,20:35)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,17:08)
    Hi Georg, it's good to ask questions, that's how we learn!

    The Ottoman Empire (islamic) was the Seventh Empire that suffered a deadly wound.
    And it was healed by Muhammadin-islam, which is the Eighth Empire that we are now in.

    The false prophet Muhammad is depicted in Rev.13:11 as a two horned lamb
    that speaks like a dragon. The two horns represent Sunni and Shiite muslims.


                 
       The quranic Prophecy (see Gal.1:8 and 2Cor.11:14)

    “And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come
    down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men” (Rev 13:13)


    God bless
    Ed J


    EdJ.

    (1)What about the arab muslems,they are not suni nor shiite.

    You call the muslems today an empire?
    (1)What sort of an empire is it,an empire that get hand outs.
    an empire killing each other.

    How can a kingdom stand if its is killing each other?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    1) Arab muslims are either Sunni or Shiite.
    2) islam is the kingdom of the antichrist.  (Link)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #315080
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,23:27)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,17:08)
    Hi Georg, it's good to ask questions, that's how we learn!

    The Ottoman Empire (islamic) was the Seventh Empire that suffered a deadly wound.
    And it was healed by Muhammadin-islam, which is the Eighth Empire that we are now in.

    The false prophet Muhammad is depicted in Rev.13:11 as a two horned lamb
    that speaks like a dragon. The two horns represent Sunni and Shiite muslims.


                 
       The quranic Prophecy (see Gal.1:8 and 2Cor.11:14)

    “And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come
    down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men” (Rev 13:13)


    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed, are you and wakeup related? you have to be.

    Georg


    Hi Georg,

    No, why do you say that?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #315116
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,23:57)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 07 2012,20:35)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,17:08)
    Hi Georg, it's good to ask questions, that's how we learn!

    The Ottoman Empire (islamic) was the Seventh Empire that suffered a deadly wound.
    And it was healed by Muhammadin-islam, which is the Eighth Empire that we are now in.

    The false prophet Muhammad is depicted in Rev.13:11 as a two horned lamb
    that speaks like a dragon. The two horns represent Sunni and Shiite muslims.


                 
       The quranic Prophecy (see Gal.1:8 and 2Cor.11:14)

    “And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come
    down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men” (Rev 13:13)


    God bless
    Ed J


    EdJ.

    (1)What about the arab muslems,they are not suni nor shiite.

    You call the muslems today an empire?
    (1)What sort of an empire is it,an empire that get hand outs.
    an empire killing each other.

    How can a kingdom stand if its is killing each other?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    1) Arab muslims are either Sunni or Shiite.
    2) islam is the kingdom of the antichrist.  (Link)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Edj.

    The riches arab nation followed the wahabi muslem sect,and you failed to mention this.
    You only mentions two; suni and shiite.
    Because this will fit in your man made doctrine.

    You must find an answer for the 2 horns,so just mention the 2 muslem sects,and hide the other one.
    Anything goes to support your doctrine,that is worth nothing.

    wakeup.

    #315118
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    Are you trying to be deceitful or disagreeable?
    There are other fringe sects as well, which amount
    to less than 4% of the total besides Sunni Shiite muslims.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #315120
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 05 2012,03:57)

    Quote (Devolution @ Oct. 05 2012,03:53)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 05 2012,03:19)

    Quote (Devolution @ Oct. 05 2012,03:15)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 04 2012,23:57)

    Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 04 2012,23:10)
    Why is it that Wakeup, Devo, and myself are the only ones warning the brethren about the false prophet coming?
    I find this strange that nobody on heaven net speaks of it?

    Why, why, why?


    Hi Georgie,

    The false prophet is Muhammad.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)


    Ed,

    muhammad would consider that blasphemy, because it is written that the false prophet declares himself as god!!

    Cheers brother.


    Not so.


    Ed,

    Oh yes he does brother…you are greatly mistaken: 2nd Thess 2:1-12.

    There you go, the false prophet declares himself God.

    Cheers.


    Hi Devolution, not so.

    2Thess 2:3 speaks of 'the son of perdition'(Link),
    not the false prophet – not the same my friend.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    Yes of course the false prophet is not the same as the son of perdition.go the link.
    And next it is different again.
    The son of perdition is the false prophet.

    So mohamad is the false prophet; thats sealed.(good boy,stay still).
    The son of perdition is lucifer. thats sealed.(stay boy).
    The little horn is greecia,right? y/n.think about this.
    The two horns are sunni and shiite islam.thats sealed.(dont run away),stay there boy

    Todays world empire is islam which is the 8th. thats sealed.(dont run away boy).
    The number of the beast is the qur'an. thats sealed.(dont run away).

    The 666 is the qur'an.thats sealed.(stay there boy, dont change anytime).

    There you are,all is locked in, and sealed,cant change your mind anymore.you agree?

    wakeup

    #315125
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 08 2012,07:04)
    EdJ.

    The little horn is greecia,right? y/n.

    wakeup


    Hi Wakeup.

    No

    Quote
    cant change your mind anymore.you agree?


    Change my mind to what?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #315131
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 08 2012,07:57)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 08 2012,07:04)
    EdJ.

    The little horn is greecia,right? y/n.

    wakeup


    Hi Wakeup.

    No

    Quote
    cant change your mind anymore.you agree?


    Change my mind to what?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    Tomorrow might be different again.

    wakeup.

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