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    Ed J
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    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,14:25)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,13:58)
    Hi Georg,

    You do have the Roman Empire as the Sixth Empire, right? Or
    do you have the Roman Empire as the Sixth, Seventh, and Eighth?

    God bless
    Ed J


    Yes, Rome was the sixth head; Rome was also the head that received the deadly wound, in 476 AD, and the wound was healed in 553 AD.

    Georg


    Hi Georg,

    So who do you have as the Seventh Empire?       …and the Eighth Empire out of the seventh?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #314979
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,14:21)

    Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 07 2012,13:19)

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    Just makes you think the false prophet is coming; and who do you think IS the false prophet?
    What scriptures do you go by, that tell you the false prophet is coming??

    Georg


    Hi Georg

    I don't know who the false prophet is yet.  Nobody knows, until he shows his face.

    He will have to come exactly according to scripture.  He must come in the last days, and come out of the last beast, the eighth one with the 10 kings.  

    The world requires a new system, because the one we have at the moment is not working.  The US dollar is going down down down, therefore the rest of the world, and investors do not want to trade in US dollars anymore.  But we have not felt the effect of it yet, especially here in Australia, but when the US dollar finally collapses, it will affect us here too, and Australia will also go bankrupt, it will cause a domino effect to other nations also, and food prices will soar, many businesses will go bust, so unemployment will rise,… say goodbye to the retirement funds you spent your whole life investing in, all those dollars you gave to them, you will get nothing in return, so also in effect, people will not be able to afford high insurance for homes, cars, and healthcare,  and the insurance companies will go down, and as more catastrophes occur like cyclones, typhoons, earthquakes etc, they won't be able to cover you or replace your home if needed, and the governments will not be able to afford giving free public healthcare for those not in private funds, and it's going to be chaos.  Riots will happen, people hungry, demanding the governments do something about it,  this is the BLACK HORSE riding.  He is here.  so now is the time coming soon.

    Because the world will not survive in this state for very long, and as people cry out “somebody help us” at that perfect timing,  a NEW SYSTEM, a NEW ORDER must take place for the world to recover to pull us out of these troubles?  WHO CAN DO THIS?  WHO HAS THIS KIND OF POWER TO ACHIEVE THIS?

    So the next horse to come quickly after this is the PALE HORSE, and this rider who is called DEATH is the the false prophet with his beast.

    THE PALE HORSE – THE FOURTH SEAL TO BE OPENED SOON
    Rev 6:8   And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on was DEATH., and HELL followed with HIM.  And POWER was given unto THEM over the fourth part of the earth, to KILL with the SWORD, and with HUNGER, and with DEATH, and with the BEASTS of the earth.

    Rev 13:3   And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the BEAST.
    Rev 13:4   And they worshiped the dragon which gave POWER unto the beast, saying “Who is like unto the BEAST? who is able to make war with him.
    Rev 13:5   And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and POWER was given unto HIM to CONTINUE forty and two months.
    Rev 13:11   And I beheld, ANOTHER BEAST coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
    Rev 13:12   And he exerciseth all the POWER of the FIRST BEAST BEFORE HIM, and causes the EARTH and THEM which DWELL therein to WORSHIP the FIRST BEAST, whose deadly wound was healed.
    Rev 13:13   And HE does GREAT WONDERS, so that he makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men.
    Rev 13:14   And DECEIVETH them that dwell on the earth by the means of those MIRACLES, which he had POWER to do in the sight of the BEAST, saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live
    Rev 13:15   And he had POWER to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the BEAST should both speak, and cause that as many as would NOT WORSHIP the image of the beat should be KILLED.
    Rev 13:16   And he causes all, both, small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to recieve a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
    Rev 13:17   And that NO MAN might BUY or SELL, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

    /continued


    You are quite right with your analyses of the world economies; but you are wrong about the false prophet, also called, the Antichrist. He is the shown in the first seal as the rider on the white horse. he tries to appear as the rider in Rev. 19:11, which “IS” Jesus Christ.
    Jesus will do away with all wars, will bring us peas; while on the other hand the rider with the bow did not; in fact, he was responsible for much of the blood shedding, and wars; which is pictured by the red horse.
    And what does war bring besides death, shortage of food, disease, sickness, and death; that is what you see in the black horse. And what is it that follows death? the grave/hell.

    Rev. 13:11; “another beast coming up out of the earth!”
    What is a beast? a beast is the term given by God to worldly kingdoms, governments; because that is how they behave; kill and destroy.
    “Out of the earth?” another ruler emerged from out of all the people.
    In Rev. 6:2 it says, “and a crown was given him”, why? because he was no king, he made himself a king by making a crown for him self, and not an ordinary crown, a triple crown.
    There is only one man in the world that wares a triple crown, the Pope; he is the false prophet; he is the beast out of the earth; he is the rider on the white horse Rev.6:2; he is the little horn with eyes and a mouth Dan. 7:8; he is the man of sin, the son of perdition 2 Thess. 2:3.

    Georg


    Pastry.

    The world will be in deep trouble first;
    and then the false prophet will come and say ''Iwill fix it.
    and the world will go for him.

    Then he will change and cause trouble and wars,and go after the true believers,and kill them.

    So its not that the f.proph. will come first,but trouble first; then he will come to fix things.

    wakeup.

    #314983
    Pastry
    Participant

    Let me ask you something, Ed.

    What was it that other kings tried to establish ever since the Roman empire collapsed; like all the “holy Roman emperors, napoleon, even the German kaiser? was it not world dominance?
    Only after the first WW, the nation got tired of fighting each other, and sought up a better way to accomplish that.
    So they got together and formed a league, a League of nation; it came into being in 1918, after WWI.
    But they were unsuccessful in preventing wars, Mussolini attacked Ethiopia; Japan attacked Manchuria; and Germany attacked Poland.
    So by the end of WWII, the League was dissolved, 1918 – 1945, a very short time.
    But, already a new beast was formed, the eighth, the “United Nation”; why does it say the eighth is of the seven? because the eighth is the same as the seventh, it changed in name only.

    Georg

    #314986
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,14:54)
    Let me ask you something, Ed.

    What was it that other kings tried to establish ever since the Roman empire collapsed; like all the “holy Roman emperors, napoleon, even the German kaiser? was it not world dominance?
    Only after the first WW, the nation got tired of fighting each other, and sought up a better way to accomplish that.
    So they got together and formed a league, a League of nation; it came into being in 1918, after WWI.
    But they were unsuccessful in preventing wars, Mussolini attacked Ethiopia; Japan attacked Manchuria; and Germany attacked Poland.
    So by the end of WWII, the League was dissolved, 1918 – 1945, a very short time.
    But, already a new beast was formed, the eighth, the “United Nation”; why does it say the eighth is of the seven? because the eighth is the same as the seventh, it changed in name only.

    Georg


    Pastry.

    Are you referring to Ed,or wakeup?

    wakeup.

    #314987
    Pastry
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 07 2012,14:44)

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,14:21)

    Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 07 2012,13:19)

    Quote
    Just makes you think the false prophet is coming; and who do you think IS the false prophet?
    What scriptures do you go by, that tell you the false prophet is coming??

    Georg


    Hi Georg

    I don't know who the false prophet is yet.  Nobody knows, until he shows his face.

    He will have to come exactly according to scripture.  He must come in the last days, and come out of the last beast, the eighth one with the 10 kings.  

    The world requires a new system, because the one we have at the moment is not working.  The US dollar is going down down down, therefore the rest of the world, and investors do not want to trade in US dollars anymore.  But we have not felt the effect of it yet, especially here in Australia, but when the US dollar finally collapses, it will affect us here too, and Australia will also go bankrupt, it will cause a domino effect to other nations also, and food prices will soar, many businesses will go bust, so unemployment will rise,… say goodbye to the retirement funds you spent your whole life investing in, all those dollars you gave to them, you will get nothing in return, so also in effect, people will not be able to afford high insurance for homes, cars, and healthcare,  and the insurance companies will go down, and as more catastrophes occur like cyclones, typhoons, earthquakes etc, they won't be able to cover you or replace your home if needed, and the governments will not be able to afford giving free public healthcare for those not in private funds, and it's going to be chaos.  Riots will happen, people hungry, demanding the governments do something about it,  this is the BLACK HORSE riding.  He is here.  so now is the time coming soon.

    Because the world will not survive in this state for very long, and as people cry out “somebody help us” at that perfect timing,  a NEW SYSTEM, a NEW ORDER must take place for the world to recover to pull us out of these troubles?  WHO CAN DO THIS?  WHO HAS THIS KIND OF POWER TO ACHIEVE THIS?

    So the next horse to come quickly after this is the PALE HORSE, and this rider who is called DEATH is the the false prophet with his beast.

    THE PALE HORSE – THE FOURTH SEAL TO BE OPENED SOON
    Rev 6:8   And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on was DEATH., and HELL followed with HIM.  And POWER was given unto THEM over the fourth part of the earth, to KILL with the SWORD, and with HUNGER, and with DEATH, and with the BEASTS of the earth.

    Rev 13:3   And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the BEAST.
    Rev 13:4   And they worshiped the dragon which gave POWER unto the beast, saying “Who is like unto the BEAST? who is able to make war with him.
    Rev 13:5   And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and POWER was given unto HIM to CONTINUE forty and two months.
    Rev 13:11   And I beheld, ANOTHER BEAST coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
    Rev 13:12   And he exerciseth all the POWER of the FIRST BEAST BEFORE HIM, and causes the EARTH and THEM which DWELL therein to WORSHIP the FIRST BEAST, whose deadly wound was healed.
    Rev 13:13   And HE does GREAT WONDERS, so that he makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men.
    Rev 13:14   And DECEIVETH them that dwell on the earth by the means of those MIRACLES, which he had POWER to do in the sight of the BEAST, saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live
    Rev 13:15   And he had POWER to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the BEAST should both speak, and cause that as many as would NOT WORSHIP the image of the beat should be KILLED.
    Rev 13:16   And he causes all, both, small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to recieve a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
    Rev 13:17   And that NO MAN might BUY or SELL, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

    /continued


    You are quite right with your analyses of the world economies; but you are wrong about the false prophet, also called, the Antichrist. He is the shown in the first seal as the rider on the white horse. he tries to appear as the rider in Rev. 19:11, which “IS” Jesus Christ.
    Jesus will do away with all wars, will bring us peas; while on the other hand the rider with the bow did not; in fact, he was responsible for much of the blood shedding, and wars; which is pictured by the red horse.
    And what does war bring besides death, shortage of food, disease, sickness, and death; that is what you see in the black horse. And what is it that follows death? the grave/hell.

    Rev. 13:11; “another beast coming up out of the earth!”
    What is a beast? a beast is the term given by God to worldly kingdoms, governments; because that is how they behave; kill and destroy.
    “Out of the earth?” another ruler emerged from out of all the people.
    In Rev. 6:2 it says, “and a crown was given him”, why? because he was no king, he made himself a king by making a crown for him self, and not an ordinary crown, a triple crown.
    There is only one man in the world that wares a triple crown, the Pope; he is the false prophet; he is the beast out of the earth; he is the rider on the white horse Rev.6:2; he is the little horn with eyes and a mouth Dan. 7:8; he is the man of sin, the son of perdition 2 Thess. 2:3.

    Georg


    Pastry.

    The world will be in deep trouble first;
    and then the false prophet will come and say ''Iwill fix it.
    and the world will go for him.

    Then he will change and cause trouble and wars,and go after the true believers,and kill them.

    So its not that the f.proph. will come first,but trouble first; then he will come to fix things.

    wakeup.


    Let me ask you wakeup, will you be following this grand master?
    will you obey him? do you think the Muslims will obey him?

    Think about it, and be logical; do you really think that any man could convince the whole world to follow him? you can't be that naive.

    Georg

    #314991
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,14:59)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 07 2012,14:44)

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,14:21)

    Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 07 2012,13:19)

    Quote
    Just makes you think the false prophet is coming; and who do you think IS the false prophet?
    What scriptures do you go by, that tell you the false prophet is coming??

    Georg


    Hi Georg

    I don't know who the false prophet is yet.  Nobody knows, until he shows his face.

    He will have to come exactly according to scripture.  He must come in the last days, and come out of the last beast, the eighth one with the 10 kings.  

    The world requires a new system, because the one we have at the moment is not working.  The US dollar is going down down down, therefore the rest of the world, and investors do not want to trade in US dollars anymore.  But we have not felt the effect of it yet, especially here in Australia, but when the US dollar finally collapses, it will affect us here too, and Australia will also go bankrupt, it will cause a domino effect to other nations also, and food prices will soar, many businesses will go bust, so unemployment will rise,… say goodbye to the retirement funds you spent your whole life investing in, all those dollars you gave to them, you will get nothing in return, so also in effect, people will not be able to afford high insurance for homes, cars, and healthcare,  and the insurance companies will go down, and as more catastrophes occur like cyclones, typhoons, earthquakes etc, they won't be able to cover you or replace your home if needed, and the governments will not be able to afford giving free public healthcare for those not in private funds, and it's going to be chaos.  Riots will happen, people hungry, demanding the governments do something about it,  this is the BLACK HORSE riding.  He is here.  so now is the time coming soon.

    Because the world will not survive in this state for very long, and as people cry out “somebody help us” at that perfect timing,  a NEW SYSTEM, a NEW ORDER must take place for the world to recover to pull us out of these troubles?  WHO CAN DO THIS?  WHO HAS THIS KIND OF POWER TO ACHIEVE THIS?

    So the next horse to come quickly after this is the PALE HORSE, and this rider who is called DEATH is the the false prophet with his beast.

    THE PALE HORSE – THE FOURTH SEAL TO BE OPENED SOON
    Rev 6:8   And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on was DEATH., and HELL followed with HIM.  And POWER was given unto THEM over the fourth part of the earth, to KILL with the SWORD, and with HUNGER, and with DEATH, and with the BEASTS of the earth.

    Rev 13:3   And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the BEAST.
    Rev 13:4   And they worshiped the dragon which gave POWER unto the beast, saying “Who is like unto the BEAST? who is able to make war with him.
    Rev 13:5   And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and POWER was given unto HIM to CONTINUE forty and two months.
    Rev 13:11   And I beheld, ANOTHER BEAST coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
    Rev 13:12   And he exerciseth all the POWER of the FIRST BEAST BEFORE HIM, and causes the EARTH and THEM which DWELL therein to WORSHIP the FIRST BEAST, whose deadly wound was healed.
    Rev 13:13   And HE does GREAT WONDERS, so that he makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men.
    Rev 13:14   And DECEIVETH them that dwell on the earth by the means of those MIRACLES, which he had POWER to do in the sight of the BEAST, saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live
    Rev 13:15   And he had POWER to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the BEAST should both speak, and cause that as many as would NOT WORSHIP the image of the beat should be KILLED.
    Rev 13:16   And he causes all, both, small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to recieve a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
    Rev 13:17   And that NO MAN might BUY or SELL, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

    /continued


    You are quite right with your analyses of the world economies; but you are wrong about the false prophet, also called, the Antichrist. He is the shown in the first seal as the rider on the white horse. he tries to appear as the rider in Rev. 19:11, which “IS” Jesus Christ.
    Jesus will do away with all wars, will bring us peas; while on the other hand the rider with the bow did not; in fact, he was responsible for much of the blood shedding, and wars; which is pictured by the red horse.
    And what does war bring besides death, shortage of food, disease, sickness, and death; that is what you see in the black horse. And what is it that follows death? the grave/hell.

    Rev. 13:11; “another beast coming up out of the earth!”
    What is a beast? a beast is the term given by God to worldly kingdoms, governments; because that is how they behave; kill and destroy.
    “Out of the earth?” another ruler emerged from out of all the people.
    In Rev. 6:2 it says, “and a crown was given him”, why? because he was no king, he made himself a king by making a crown for him self, and not an ordinary crown, a triple crown.
    There is only one man in the world that wares a triple crown, the Pope; he is the false prophet; he is the beast out of the earth; he is the rider on the white horse Rev.6:2; he is the little horn with eyes and a mouth Dan. 7:8; he is the man of sin, the son of perdition 2 Thess. 2:3.

    Georg


    Pastry.

    The world will be in deep trouble first;
    and then the false prophet will come and say ''Iwill fix it.
    and the world will go for him.

    Then he will change and cause trouble and wars,and go after the true believers,and kill them.

    So its not that the f.proph. will come first,but trouble first; then he will come to fix things.

    wakeup.


    Let me ask you wakeup, will you be following this grand master?
    will you obey him? do you think the Muslims will obey him?

    Think about it, and be logical; do you really think that any man could convince the whole world to follow him? you can't be that naive.

    Georg


    Pastry.

    I think you are mistaken.
    That question should be to Edj.
    not me.

    wakeup.

    #314993
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,14:54)
    Let me ask you something, Ed.

    What was it that other kings tried to establish ever since the Roman empire collapsed; like all the “holy Roman emperors, napoleon, even the German kaiser? was it not world dominance?
    Only after the first WW, the nation got tired of fighting each other, and sought up a better way to accomplish that.
    So they got together and formed a league, a League of nation; it came into being in 1918, after WWI.
    But they were unsuccessful in preventing wars, Mussolini attacked Ethiopia; Japan attacked Manchuria; and Germany attacked Poland.
    So by the end of WWII, the League was dissolved, 1918 – 1945, a very short time.
    But, already a new beast was formed, the eighth, the “United Nation”; why does it say the eighth is of the seven? because the eighth is the same as the seventh, it changed in name only.

    Georg


    Hi Georg,

    So what the Seventh Empire then?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #314994
    Pastry
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,15:05)

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,14:54)
    Let me ask you something, Ed.

    What was it that other kings tried to establish ever since the Roman empire collapsed; like all the “holy Roman emperors, napoleon, even the German kaiser? was it not world dominance?
    Only after the first WW, the nation got tired of fighting each other, and sought up a better way to accomplish that.
    So they got together and formed a league, a League of nation; it came into being in 1918, after WWI.
    But they were unsuccessful in preventing wars, Mussolini attacked Ethiopia; Japan attacked Manchuria; and Germany attacked Poland.
    So by the end of WWII, the League was dissolved, 1918 – 1945, a very short time.
    But, already a new beast was formed, the eighth, the “United Nation”; why does it say the eighth is of the seven? because the eighth is the same as the seventh, it changed in name only.

    Georg


    Hi Georg,

    So what the Seventh Empire then?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Are you blind, or just pretending?

    Georg

    #314996
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,15:07)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,15:05)

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,14:54)
    Let me ask you something, Ed.

    What was it that other kings tried to establish ever since the Roman empire collapsed; like all the “holy Roman emperors, napoleon, even the German kaiser? was it not world dominance?
    Only after the first WW, the nation got tired of fighting each other, and sought up a better way to accomplish that.
    So they got together and formed a league, a League of nation; it came into being in 1918, after WWI.
    But they were unsuccessful in preventing wars, Mussolini attacked Ethiopia; Japan attacked Manchuria; and Germany attacked Poland.
    So by the end of WWII, the League was dissolved, 1918 – 1945, a very short time.
    But, already a new beast was formed, the eighth, the “United Nation”; why does it say the eighth is of the seven? because the eighth is the same as the seventh, it changed in name only.

    Georg


    Hi Georg,

    So what the Seventh Empire then?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Are you blind, or just pretending?

    Georg


    League of nations?

    #314997
    Pastry
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 07 2012,15:04)

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,14:59)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 07 2012,14:44)

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,14:21)

    Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 07 2012,13:19)

    Quote
    Just makes you think the false prophet is coming; and who do you think IS the false prophet?
    What scriptures do you go by, that tell you the false prophet is coming??

    Georg


    Hi Georg

    I don't know who the false prophet is yet.  Nobody knows, until he shows his face.

    He will have to come exactly according to scripture.  He must come in the last days, and come out of the last beast, the eighth one with the 10 kings.  

    The world requires a new system, because the one we have at the moment is not working.  The US dollar is going down down down, therefore the rest of the world, and investors do not want to trade in US dollars anymore.  But we have not felt the effect of it yet, especially here in Australia, but when the US dollar finally collapses, it will affect us here too, and Australia will also go bankrupt, it will cause a domino effect to other nations also, and food prices will soar, many businesses will go bust, so unemployment will rise,… say goodbye to the retirement funds you spent your whole life investing in, all those dollars you gave to them, you will get nothing in return, so also in effect, people will not be able to afford high insurance for homes, cars, and healthcare,  and the insurance companies will go down, and as more catastrophes occur like cyclones, typhoons, earthquakes etc, they won't be able to cover you or replace your home if needed, and the governments will not be able to afford giving free public healthcare for those not in private funds, and it's going to be chaos.  Riots will happen, people hungry, demanding the governments do something about it,  this is the BLACK HORSE riding.  He is here.  so now is the time coming soon.

    Because the world will not survive in this state for very long, and as people cry out “somebody help us” at that perfect timing,  a NEW SYSTEM, a NEW ORDER must take place for the world to recover to pull us out of these troubles?  WHO CAN DO THIS?  WHO HAS THIS KIND OF POWER TO ACHIEVE THIS?

    So the next horse to come quickly after this is the PALE HORSE, and this rider who is called DEATH is the the false prophet with his beast.

    THE PALE HORSE – THE FOURTH SEAL TO BE OPENED SOON
    Rev 6:8   And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on was DEATH., and HELL followed with HIM.  And POWER was given unto THEM over the fourth part of the earth, to KILL with the SWORD, and with HUNGER, and with DEATH, and with the BEASTS of the earth.

    Rev 13:3   And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the BEAST.
    Rev 13:4   And they worshiped the dragon which gave POWER unto the beast, saying “Who is like unto the BEAST? who is able to make war with him.
    Rev 13:5   And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and POWER was given unto HIM to CONTINUE forty and two months.
    Rev 13:11   And I beheld, ANOTHER BEAST coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
    Rev 13:12   And he exerciseth all the POWER of the FIRST BEAST BEFORE HIM, and causes the EARTH and THEM which DWELL therein to WORSHIP the FIRST BEAST, whose deadly wound was healed.
    Rev 13:13   And HE does GREAT WONDERS, so that he makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men.
    Rev 13:14   And DECEIVETH them that dwell on the earth by the means of those MIRACLES, which he had POWER to do in the sight of the BEAST, saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live
    Rev 13:15   And he had POWER to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the BEAST should both speak, and cause that as many as would NOT WORSHIP the image of the beat should be KILLED.
    Rev 13:16   And he causes all, both, small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to recieve a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
    Rev 13:17   And that NO MAN might BUY or SELL, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

    /continued


    You are quite right with your analyses of the world economies; but you are wrong about the false prophet, also called, the Antichrist. He is the shown in the first seal as the rider on the white horse. he tries to appear as the rider in Rev. 19:11, which “IS” Jesus Christ.
    Jesus will do away with all wars, will bring us peas; while on the other hand the rider with the bow did not; in fact, he was responsible for much of the blood shedding, and wars; which is pictured by the red horse.
    And what does war bring besides death, shortage of food, disease, sickness, and death; that is what you see in the black horse. And what is it that follows death? the grave/hell.

    Rev. 13:11; “another beast coming up out of the earth!”
    What is a beast? a beast is the term given by God to worldly kingdoms, governments; because that is how they behave; kill and destroy.
    “Out of the earth?” another ruler emerged from out of all the people.
    In Rev. 6:2 it says, “and a crown was given him”, why? because he was no king, he made himself a king by making a crown for him self, and not an ordinary crown, a triple crown.
    There is only one man in the world that wares a triple crown, the Pope; he is the false prophet; he is the beast out of the earth; he is the rider on the white horse Rev.6:2; he is the little horn with eyes and a mouth Dan. 7:8; he is the man of sin, the son of perdition 2 Thess. 2:3.

    Georg


    Pastry.

    The world will be in deep trouble first;
    and then the false prophet will come and say ''Iwill fix it.
    and the world will go for him.

    Then he will change and cause trouble and wars,and go after the true believers,and kill them.

    So its not that the f.proph. will come first,but trouble first; then he will come to fix things.

    wakeup.


    Let me ask you wakeup, will you be following this grand master?
    will you obey him? do you think the Muslims will obey him?

    Think about it, and be logical; do you really think that any man could convince the whole world to follow him? you can't be that naive.

    Georg


    Pastry.

    I think you are mistaken.
    That question should be to Edj.
    not me.

    wakeup.


    Again you avoid answering me.

    Georg

    #314999
    Pastry
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,15:09)

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,15:07)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,15:05)

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,14:54)
    Let me ask you something, Ed.

    What was it that other kings tried to establish ever since the Roman empire collapsed; like all the “holy Roman emperors, napoleon, even the German kaiser? was it not world dominance?
    Only after the first WW, the nation got tired of fighting each other, and sought up a better way to accomplish that.
    So they got together and formed a league, a League of nation; it came into being in 1918, after WWI.
    But they were unsuccessful in preventing wars, Mussolini attacked Ethiopia; Japan attacked Manchuria; and Germany attacked Poland.
    So by the end of WWII, the League was dissolved, 1918 – 1945, a very short time.
    But, already a new beast was formed, the eighth, the “United Nation”; why does it say the eighth is of the seven? because the eighth is the same as the seventh, it changed in name only.

    Georg


    Hi Georg,

    So what the Seventh Empire then?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Are you blind, or just pretending?

    Georg


    League of nations?


    You're playing religious politics; are you a democrat?

    Georg

    #315002
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,14:59)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 07 2012,14:44)

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,14:21)

    Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 07 2012,13:19)

    Quote
    Just makes you think the false prophet is coming; and who do you think IS the false prophet?
    What scriptures do you go by, that tell you the false prophet is coming??

    Georg


    Hi Georg

    I don't know who the false prophet is yet.  Nobody knows, until he shows his face.

    He will have to come exactly according to scripture.  He must come in the last days, and come out of the last beast, the eighth one with the 10 kings.  

    The world requires a new system, because the one we have at the moment is not working.  The US dollar is going down down down, therefore the rest of the world, and investors do not want to trade in US dollars anymore.  But we have not felt the effect of it yet, especially here in Australia, but when the US dollar finally collapses, it will affect us here too, and Australia will also go bankrupt, it will cause a domino effect to other nations also, and food prices will soar, many businesses will go bust, so unemployment will rise,… say goodbye to the retirement funds you spent your whole life investing in, all those dollars you gave to them, you will get nothing in return, so also in effect, people will not be able to afford high insurance for homes, cars, and healthcare,  and the insurance companies will go down, and as more catastrophes occur like cyclones, typhoons, earthquakes etc, they won't be able to cover you or replace your home if needed, and the governments will not be able to afford giving free public healthcare for those not in private funds, and it's going to be chaos.  Riots will happen, people hungry, demanding the governments do something about it,  this is the BLACK HORSE riding.  He is here.  so now is the time coming soon.

    Because the world will not survive in this state for very long, and as people cry out “somebody help us” at that perfect timing,  a NEW SYSTEM, a NEW ORDER must take place for the world to recover to pull us out of these troubles?  WHO CAN DO THIS?  WHO HAS THIS KIND OF POWER TO ACHIEVE THIS?

    So the next horse to come quickly after this is the PALE HORSE, and this rider who is called DEATH is the the false prophet with his beast.

    THE PALE HORSE – THE FOURTH SEAL TO BE OPENED SOON
    Rev 6:8   And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on was DEATH., and HELL followed with HIM.  And POWER was given unto THEM over the fourth part of the earth, to KILL with the SWORD, and with HUNGER, and with DEATH, and with the BEASTS of the earth.

    Rev 13:3   And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the BEAST.
    Rev 13:4   And they worshiped the dragon which gave POWER unto the beast, saying “Who is like unto the BEAST? who is able to make war with him.
    Rev 13:5   And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and POWER was given unto HIM to CONTINUE forty and two months.
    Rev 13:11   And I beheld, ANOTHER BEAST coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
    Rev 13:12   And he exerciseth all the POWER of the FIRST BEAST BEFORE HIM, and causes the EARTH and THEM which DWELL therein to WORSHIP the FIRST BEAST, whose deadly wound was healed.
    Rev 13:13   And HE does GREAT WONDERS, so that he makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men.
    Rev 13:14   And DECEIVETH them that dwell on the earth by the means of those MIRACLES, which he had POWER to do in the sight of the BEAST, saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live
    Rev 13:15   And he had POWER to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the BEAST should both speak, and cause that as many as would NOT WORSHIP the image of the beat should be KILLED.
    Rev 13:16   And he causes all, both, small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to recieve a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
    Rev 13:17   And that NO MAN might BUY or SELL, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

    /continued


    You are quite right with your analyses of the world economies; but you are wrong about the false prophet, also called, the Antichrist. He is the shown in the first seal as the rider on the white horse. he tries to appear as the rider in Rev. 19:11, which “IS” Jesus Christ.
    Jesus will do away with all wars, will bring us peas; while on the other hand the rider with the bow did not; in fact, he was responsible for much of the blood shedding, and wars; which is pictured by the red horse.
    And what does war bring besides death, shortage of food, disease, sickness, and death; that is what you see in the black horse. And what is it that follows death? the grave/hell.

    Rev. 13:11; “another beast coming up out of the earth!”
    What is a beast? a beast is the term given by God to worldly kingdoms, governments; because that is how they behave; kill and destroy.
    “Out of the earth?” another ruler emerged from out of all the people.
    In Rev. 6:2 it says, “and a crown was given him”, why? because he was no king, he made himself a king by making a crown for him self, and not an ordinary crown, a triple crown.
    There is only one man in the world that wares a triple crown, the Pope; he is the false prophet; he is the beast out of the earth; he is the rider on the white horse Rev.6:2; he is the little horn with eyes and a mouth Dan. 7:8; he is the man of sin, the son of perdition 2 Thess. 2:3.

    Georg


    Pastry.

    The world will be in deep trouble first;
    and then the false prophet will come and say ''Iwill fix it.
    and the world will go for him.

    Then he will change and cause trouble and wars,and go after the true believers,and kill them.

    So its not that the f.proph. will come first,but trouble first; then he will come to fix things.

    wakeup.


    Let me ask you wakeup, will you be following this grand master?
    will you obey him? do you think the Muslims will obey him?

    Think about it, and be logical; do you really think that any man could convince the whole world to follow him? you can't be that naive.

    Georg


    pastry.

    Why are you asking me that question?
    I never said the muslems is the false prophet,but EdJ does.

    I believe that the man of perdition is the false prophet,and he is also the one that introduced the mark by force,and I will not compromise with him.

    wakeup.

    wakeup.

    #315006
    Pastry
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 07 2012,15:16)

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,14:59)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 07 2012,14:44)

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,14:21)

    Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 07 2012,13:19)

    Quote
    Just makes you think the false prophet is coming; and who do you think IS the false prophet?
    What scriptures do you go by, that tell you the false prophet is coming??

    Georg


    Hi Georg

    I don't know who the false prophet is yet.  Nobody knows, until he shows his face.

    He will have to come exactly according to scripture.  He must come in the last days, and come out of the last beast, the eighth one with the 10 kings.  

    The world requires a new system, because the one we have at the moment is not working.  The US dollar is going down down down, therefore the rest of the world, and investors do not want to trade in US dollars anymore.  But we have not felt the effect of it yet, especially here in Australia, but when the US dollar finally collapses, it will affect us here too, and Australia will also go bankrupt, it will cause a domino effect to other nations also, and food prices will soar, many businesses will go bust, so unemployment will rise,… say goodbye to the retirement funds you spent your whole life investing in, all those dollars you gave to them, you will get nothing in return, so also in effect, people will not be able to afford high insurance for homes, cars, and healthcare,  and the insurance companies will go down, and as more catastrophes occur like cyclones, typhoons, earthquakes etc, they won't be able to cover you or replace your home if needed, and the governments will not be able to afford giving free public healthcare for those not in private funds, and it's going to be chaos.  Riots will happen, people hungry, demanding the governments do something about it,  this is the BLACK HORSE riding.  He is here.  so now is the time coming soon.

    Because the world will not survive in this state for very long, and as people cry out “somebody help us” at that perfect timing,  a NEW SYSTEM, a NEW ORDER must take place for the world to recover to pull us out of these troubles?  WHO CAN DO THIS?  WHO HAS THIS KIND OF POWER TO ACHIEVE THIS?

    So the next horse to come quickly after this is the PALE HORSE, and this rider who is called DEATH is the the false prophet with his beast.

    THE PALE HORSE – THE FOURTH SEAL TO BE OPENED SOON
    Rev 6:8   And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on was DEATH., and HELL followed with HIM.  And POWER was given unto THEM over the fourth part of the earth, to KILL with the SWORD, and with HUNGER, and with DEATH, and with the BEASTS of the earth.

    Rev 13:3   And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the BEAST.
    Rev 13:4   And they worshiped the dragon which gave POWER unto the beast, saying “Who is like unto the BEAST? who is able to make war with him.
    Rev 13:5   And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and POWER was given unto HIM to CONTINUE forty and two months.
    Rev 13:11   And I beheld, ANOTHER BEAST coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
    Rev 13:12   And he exerciseth all the POWER of the FIRST BEAST BEFORE HIM, and causes the EARTH and THEM which DWELL therein to WORSHIP the FIRST BEAST, whose deadly wound was healed.
    Rev 13:13   And HE does GREAT WONDERS, so that he makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men.
    Rev 13:14   And DECEIVETH them that dwell on the earth by the means of those MIRACLES, which he had POWER to do in the sight of the BEAST, saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live
    Rev 13:15   And he had POWER to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the BEAST should both speak, and cause that as many as would NOT WORSHIP the image of the beat should be KILLED.
    Rev 13:16   And he causes all, both, small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to recieve a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
    Rev 13:17   And that NO MAN might BUY or SELL, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

    /continued


    You are quite right with your analyses of the world economies; but you are wrong about the false prophet, also called, the Antichrist. He is the shown in the first seal as the rider on the white horse. he tries to appear as the rider in Rev. 19:11, which “IS” Jesus Christ.
    Jesus will do away with all wars, will bring us peas; while on the other hand the rider with the bow did not; in fact, he was responsible for much of the blood shedding, and wars; which is pictured by the red horse.
    And what does war bring besides death, shortage of food, disease, sickness, and death; that is what you see in the black horse. And what is it that follows death? the grave/hell.

    Rev. 13:11; “another beast coming up out of the earth!”
    What is a beast? a beast is the term given by God to worldly kingdoms, governments; because that is how they behave; kill and destroy.
    “Out of the earth?” another ruler emerged from out of all the people.
    In Rev. 6:2 it says, “and a crown was given him”, why? because he was no king, he made himself a king by making a crown for him self, and not an ordinary crown, a triple crown.
    There is only one man in the world that wares a triple crown, the Pope; he is the false prophet; he is the beast out of the earth; he is the rider on the white horse Rev.6:2; he is the little horn with eyes and a mouth Dan. 7:8; he is the man of sin, the son of perdition 2 Thess. 2:3.

    Georg


    Pastry.

    The world will be in deep trouble first;
    and then the false prophet will come and say ''Iwill fix it.
    and the world will go for him.

    Then he will change and cause trouble and wars,and go after the true believers,and kill them.

    So its not that the f.proph. will come first,but trouble first; then he will come to fix things.

    wakeup.


    Let me ask you wakeup, will you be following this grand master?
    will you obey him? do you think the Muslims will obey him?

    Think about it, and be logical; do you really think that any man could convince the whole world to follow him? you can't be that naive.

    Georg


    pastry.

    Why are you asking me that question?
    I never said the muslems is the false prophet,but EdJ does.

    I believe that the man of perdition is the false prophet,and he is also the one that introduced the mark by force,and I will not compromise with him.

    wakeup.

    wakeup.


    Once again you have proven to me that you can't even read.

    Georg

    #315011
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Pastry.

    Some nice words coming out of a so called christian.

    wakeup.

    #315014
    Pastry
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 07 2012,15:33)
    Pastry.

    Some nice words coming out of a so called christian.

    wakeup.


    I doubt if you are a Christian, a Christian would not be so annoying, and avoiding.

    Georg

    #315021
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,15:38)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 07 2012,15:33)
    Pastry.

    Some nice words coming out of a so called christian.

    wakeup.


    I doubt if you are a Christian, a Christian would not be so annoying, and avoiding.

    Georg


    pastry.

    The truth does hurt.
    but truth is truth,painful or not.

    wakeup.

    #315022
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,15:13)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,15:09)

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,15:07)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,15:05)

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,14:54)
    Let me ask you something, Ed.

    What was it that other kings tried to establish ever since the Roman empire collapsed; like all the “holy Roman emperors, napoleon, even the German kaiser? was it not world dominance?
    Only after the first WW, the nation got tired of fighting each other, and sought up a better way to accomplish that.
    So they got together and formed a league, a League of nation; it came into being in 1918, after WWI.
    But they were unsuccessful in preventing wars, Mussolini attacked Ethiopia; Japan attacked Manchuria; and Germany attacked Poland.
    So by the end of WWII, the League was dissolved, 1918 – 1945, a very short time.
    But, already a new beast was formed, the eighth, the “United Nation”; why does it say the eighth is of the seven? because the eighth is the same as the seventh, it changed in name only.

    Georg


    Hi Georg,

    So what the Seventh Empire then?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Are you blind, or just pretending?

    Georg


    League of nations?


    You're playing religious politics; are you a democrat?

    Georg


    Hi Goerg,

    No, did I guess right? is that what    
    you believe the Seventh Empire was?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #315023
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 07 2012,21:06)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 07 2012,13:34)
    j42

    Quote
    Because the world will not survive in this state for very long, and as people cry out “somebody help us” at that perfect timing,  a NEW SYSTEM, a NEW ORDER must take place for the world to recover to pull us out of these troubles?  WHO CAN DO THIS?  WHO HAS THIS KIND OF POWER TO ACHIEVE THIS?

    we all suppose to die the law ” the soul that sin must die ” is not finished.

    Christ came to save us not from live but from the grave,by the first or second resurrection ,

    it is that faith and believe that he would do that that will save us,for that reason we change and conform ourself to his will ,to receive the promise of everlasting live


    Yes Pierre,

    This false prophet could never save us.  But the world don't have a saviour, so to them he is their saviour, because it's the material things they are concerned with. This is why they are fooled by him, because he can give it back, but we are not fooled, and we wont accept him to save our lives, or our material things, that's why we will not conform to his new system.  We will be outcasts, considered rejects & rebells.  They will find new homes for us alright, in the FEMA prison camps.  They will force us to go there.  Once we are there, nobody will know what they are doing to us.  Just like with the Jews.  Many slaughtered and no-one knew except for the soldiers.  If we take the mark, they will release us from the prison, we will have 10 days to make that decision in there.


    J42

    We're do you get this ??? This I never came across in scriptures ,so we're does it say that ???

    #315025
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,13:39)
    Hi Georgie,

    I'm glad that you have been reading my posts!
    Because this is exactly what I asked for – an explanation
    as to “WHY” you believe the way you do. Thank you so much!

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org


    Thanks Ed,

    I've been explaining the whole time since I've been on heaven net. Not just now. In fact I'm going over and over the same things I've been posting all along.

    #315029
    Pastry
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,15:53)

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,15:13)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,15:09)

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,15:07)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2012,15:05)

    Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 07 2012,14:54)
    Let me ask you something, Ed.

    What was it that other kings tried to establish ever since the Roman empire collapsed; like all the “holy Roman emperors, napoleon, even the German kaiser? was it not world dominance?
    Only after the first WW, the nation got tired of fighting each other, and sought up a better way to accomplish that.
    So they got together and formed a league, a League of nation; it came into being in 1918, after WWI.
    But they were unsuccessful in preventing wars, Mussolini attacked Ethiopia; Japan attacked Manchuria; and Germany attacked Poland.
    So by the end of WWII, the League was dissolved, 1918 – 1945, a very short time.
    But, already a new beast was formed, the eighth, the “United Nation”; why does it say the eighth is of the seven? because the eighth is the same as the seventh, it changed in name only.

    Georg


    Hi Georg,

    So what the Seventh Empire then?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Are you blind, or just pretending?

    Georg


    League of nations?


    You're playing religious politics; are you a democrat?

    Georg


    Hi Goerg,

    No, did I guess right? is that what    
    you believe the Seventh Empire was?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Why do you keep repeating the question? did I not make that plain to you?

    Georg

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