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“””And for the overspreading of abominations, he (Jesus) shall make it desolate,even until the consumation,and that determined shall be poured upon THE DESOLATE.”””
Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
The first part you have correct.
The question is, what is the abomination?
The abomination that spread all over the world was the setting up of the Catholic church’s Mass sacrifice, it completely destroyed the true meaning of Christ’s sacrifice, and it’s going to continue until the very end. It was the sacrifice that ended all other sacrifices; Christ did it once, and with it he forgave us all our sins.Col. 2:13 “And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses.”
Heb. 10:10 “ By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all”.
Georg
Quote (Pastry @ Mar. 14 2012,12:22) wakeup “””And for the overspreading of abominations, he (Jesus) shall make it desolate,even until the consumation,and that determined shall be poured upon THE DESOLATE.”””
Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
The first part you have correct.
The question is, what is the abomination?
The abomination that spread all over the world was the setting up of the Catholic church’s Mass sacrifice, it completely destroyed the true meaning of Christ’s sacrifice, and it’s going to continue until the very end. It was the sacrifice that ended all other sacrifices; Christ did it once, and with it he forgave us all our sins.Col. 2:13 “And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses.”
Heb. 10:10 “ By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all”.
Georg
Pastry.The abominations have been going on since 2000yrs.
And the abomination of desolation is the setting up of the new temple between the seas.
This temple will be build in Jerusalem,for the false prophet.
I know you dont agree with this.wakeup.
wakeup
There is no biblical proof for a third temple.
There is no other false prophet coming then the one we already have, the pope of the RCC.Georg
Quote Dan.9:27. Jesus will confirm the COVENANT WITH MANY for one week; And in the mids of the week shall he cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease. Wakeup, I don't believe you have this correct. Jesus didn't confirm a covenant with anyone for a week. And Jesus did not cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease.
Jesus was cut off in the middle of a week, but He didn't cut Himself off. And the temple sacrifice was still going on after His death and resurrection.This covenant of a week is future.
God Bless
MarlinQuote Amos 8:11.Behold, the days come,saith the Lord God,that I will send a famine in THE LAND,not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water,but of HEARING THE WORD OF THE LORD. Verse 12. And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the Lord,and shall not find it.
Hi Wakeup,
This is NOW.
No one wants to come God's provided way, it is every man for himself.
God through Paul said, “let God be true, but every man a liar”God Bless
MarlinQuote (Pastry @ Mar. 14 2012,12:47) wakeup There is no biblical proof for a third temple.
There is no other false prophet coming then the one we already have, the pope of the RCC.Georg
Hi GeorgeDaniel 11:45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.
This is the clue. This man will build his temple in Jerusalem.
The Jews are still waiting for their messiah. This is not history but fact. They believe he will come when their temple is rebuilt (last destroyed in 70AD) but the most holy temple to the Shiite muslems also known as the Dome of the Rock is currently standing there in that same spot in Jerusalem. This temple must be destroyed in the eyes of the Jews, but they dare not touch it. ….. Enter the false prophet with the miracles, and lying wonders, and a big mouth who manages to deceive them (the Jews first) by making a covenant with the Jews to destroy and rebuild this temple for them so that their messiah can come, but he deceives them, and when he enters the holy land to carry out this purpose, he turns against them (it is in his heart) and invades them, and sets up this temple for himself for he proclaims to be God.
This is what makes the Jews desolate. They rejected the real messiah, and instead made a covenant with death (false prophet)
Isaiah 28:18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.
Daniel 11:32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.
Daniel 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will, and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
It will take 3 1/2 years for him to build this temple.
Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice, shall be taken away, and the abomination of desolation set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days (3 1/2 years)and when this temple is proclaimed as finished
Daniel 11:12 Bless is he that waits and comes to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days .wait another 45 days after the temple declared finished, and the Lord will come.
Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 14 2012,14:39) Quote Dan.9:27. Jesus will confirm the COVENANT WITH MANY for one week; And in the mids of the week shall he cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease. Wakeup, I don't believe you have this correct. Jesus didn't confirm a covenant with anyone for a week. And Jesus did not cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease.
Jesus was cut off in the middle of a week, but He didn't cut Himself off. And the temple sacrifice was still going on after His death and resurrection.This covenant of a week is future.
God Bless
Marlin
Marlin1.Jesus did make a new covenant with his followers.
And after the crucifixion,the saccrifices has ended for his followers,but the jews that rejected him are still doing what they have been doing.Sacrificing animals.In the mids of the week he was cut off(crucified).
wakeup.
Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 14 2012,14:39) Quote Dan.9:27. Jesus will confirm the COVENANT WITH MANY for one week; And in the mids of the week shall he cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease. Wakeup, I don't believe you have this correct. Jesus didn't confirm a covenant with anyone for a week. And Jesus did not cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease.
Jesus was cut off in the middle of a week, but He didn't cut Himself off. And the temple sacrifice was still going on after His death and resurrection.This covenant of a week is future.
God Bless
Marlin
No marlin, that part wakeup has correct.Jesus was baptized at the end of the 69th week, the beginning of the 70th week was also the beginning of his preaching the gospel, or confirming the new covenant, Mat. 26:28.
After three and a half years, middle of the week, he was cut off, crucified.
His death on the cross ended the old covenant, law of Moses.
His death put an end to all other sacrifices, except for the Jews because they did not believe he was the Messiah.The 70 weeks were a prophesy of what would happen at the end of it.
Act 10:45 And they of the circumcision (Jews) which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
That is what the 70 weeks were all about.
Georg
Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 14 2012,15:49) Quote (Pastry @ Mar. 14 2012,12:47) wakeup There is no biblical proof for a third temple.
There is no other false prophet coming then the one we already have, the pope of the RCC.Georg
Hi GeorgeDaniel 11:45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.
This is the clue. This man will build his temple in Jerusalem.
The Jews are still waiting for their messiah. This is not history but fact. They believe he will come when their temple is rebuilt (last destroyed in 70AD) but the most holy temple to the Shiite muslems also known as the Dome of the Rock is currently standing there in that same spot in Jerusalem. This temple must be destroyed in the eyes of the Jews, but they dare not touch it. ….. Enter the false prophet with the miracles, and lying wonders, and a big mouth who manages to deceive them (the Jews first) by making a covenant with the Jews to destroy and rebuild this temple for them so that their messiah can come, but he deceives them, and when he enters the holy land to carry out this purpose, he turns against them (it is in his heart) and invades them, and sets up this temple for himself for he proclaims to be God.
This is what makes the Jews desolate. They rejected the real messiah, and instead made a covenant with death (false prophet)
Isaiah 28:18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.
Daniel 11:32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.
Daniel 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will, and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
It will take 3 1/2 years for him to build this temple.
Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice, shall be taken away, and the abomination of desolation set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days (3 1/2 years)and when this temple is proclaimed as finished
Daniel 11:12 Bless is he that waits and comes to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days .wait another 45 days after the temple declared finished, and the Lord will come.
No JourneyWhat you're reading there, Dan. 11:45, has to do with Napoleons invasion of Egypt in 1798.
The British Navy under the command of Admiral Horatio Nelson, ships of Chittim (now called Cyprus) Dan. 11:30, destroyed all but two of his warships, and left him stranded.
He tried to fight his way home around the Mediterranean Sea, but was stopped at Acre Palestine.
He returned back to Egypt, and planted, or put up his palace (tent) between the seas, the Mediterranean Sea and the Dead Sea, Dan. 11:45.Georg
Quote No marlin, that part wakeup has correct. Jesus was baptized at the end of the 69th week, the beginning of the 70th week was also the beginning of his preaching the gospel, or confirming the new covenant, Mat. 26:28.
After three and a half years, middle of the week, he was cut off, crucified.
His death on the cross ended the old covenant, law of Moses.
His death put an end to all other sacrifices, except for the Jews because they did not believe he was the Messiah.The 70 weeks were a prophesy of what would happen at the end of it.
Act 10:45 And they of the circumcision (Jews) which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
That is what the 70 weeks were all about.
Georg
Hay Georg,
It is good to see that you and Wakeup can agree on something, at least in part.The 70 weeks was untell the end.
The 70 weeks was for the Jews, not the Gentile.69 1/2 have been completed.
1/2 weeks is left for the Jews.
the 2 witnesses of Revelations will preach for 1/2 week, 3 1/2 years yet future after our time is finished. This will complete the 70 weeks to his people.The false prophet will make a covenant with the Jew for 7 years and break in after 3 1/2 years.
And then Armageddon will follow shortly.One other thing, you claim that Jesus made a covenant for 7 years and then broke it after 3 1/2 years. Common sense should tell us that His covenant has been going on for over 2000 years.
That is way more then 3 1/2.You have your covenants mixed up.
God Bless
MarlinHi Marlin,
I believe this video explains the 70 weeks of Daniel the best.
The time line, regarding this, starts at 15:25 through to 52:30.
Please listen all the way to the end count I have given you; OK?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Pastry @ Mar. 14 2012,12:47) wakeup There is no biblical proof for a third temple.
There is no other false prophet coming then the one we already have, the pope of the RCC.Georg
Hi pastry.So this pope is the one that will be cast in the lake of fire,at the coming?
wakeup.
Ed J,
I see why you would like Steve's ideas. Birds of a feather, fly together.
You know, that if the blind lead the blind, they will both fall in the ditch.
God doesn't do things exactly the way I think, does He do them exactly the way you think.
Scripture doesn't lie though, does it.
God Bless
MarlinM1
Quote The 70 weeks was untell the end.
The 70 weeks was for the Jews, not the Gentile.were is your scriptures for this ; end of the 70 weeks NOT FOR THE GENTILES
Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 15 2012,08:53) Ed J, (1)I see why you would like Steve's ideas. (2)Birds of a feather, fly together.
(3)You know, that if the blind lead the blind, they will both fall in the ditch.
(4)God doesn't do things exactly the way I think, does He do them exactly the way you think.
(5)Scripture doesn't lie though, does it.
God Bless
Marlin
Hi Marlin,1) Who's Steve?
2) It is you that believes in a PHONEY RAPTURE, not me!
3) John 9:39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world,
that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.
4) He does thing exactly the way he says he will! (see John 15:15 and Isaiah 5:18-21)
5) Some who have incorrect understanding of Scripture do spread lies. (see 2Tm.3:13)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Pastry @ Mar. 15 2012,04:15) Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 14 2012,15:49) Quote (Pastry @ Mar. 14 2012,12:47) wakeup There is no biblical proof for a third temple.
There is no other false prophet coming then the one we already have, the pope of the RCC.Georg
Hi GeorgeDaniel 11:45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.
This is the clue. This man will build his temple in Jerusalem.
The Jews are still waiting for their messiah. This is not history but fact. They believe he will come when their temple is rebuilt (last destroyed in 70AD) but the most holy temple to the Shiite muslems also known as the Dome of the Rock is currently standing there in that same spot in Jerusalem. This temple must be destroyed in the eyes of the Jews, but they dare not touch it. ….. Enter the false prophet with the miracles, and lying wonders, and a big mouth who manages to deceive them (the Jews first) by making a covenant with the Jews to destroy and rebuild this temple for them so that their messiah can come, but he deceives them, and when he enters the holy land to carry out this purpose, he turns against them (it is in his heart) and invades them, and sets up this temple for himself for he proclaims to be God.
This is what makes the Jews desolate. They rejected the real messiah, and instead made a covenant with death (false prophet)
Isaiah 28:18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.
Daniel 11:32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.
Daniel 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will, and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
It will take 3 1/2 years for him to build this temple.
Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice, shall be taken away, and the abomination of desolation set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days (3 1/2 years)and when this temple is proclaimed as finished
Daniel 11:12 Bless is he that waits and comes to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days .wait another 45 days after the temple declared finished, and the Lord will come.
No JourneyWhat you're reading there, Dan. 11:45, has to do with Napoleons invasion of Egypt in 1798.
The British Navy under the command of Admiral Horatio Nelson, ships of Chittim (now called Cyprus) Dan. 11:30, destroyed all but two of his warships, and left him stranded.
He tried to fight his way home around the Mediterranean Sea, but was stopped at Acre Palestine.
He returned back to Egypt, and planted, or put up his palace (tent) between the seas, the Mediterranean Sea and the Dead Sea, Dan. 11:45.Georg
Pastry.Yous aid Napoleon, did set up his palace between the seas(Jerusalem) am I correct?
Dan.11:45. And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain,yet he shall come to his end,and none shall help him.
Ch12:1. And at -THAT- time SHALL MICHAEL STAND UP,the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people; AND THERE SHALL BE A TIME OF TROUBLE,SUCH AS NEVER WAS SINCE THERE WAS A NATION—
Napoleon has gone for over 200yrs now, and nothing of this kind has happened.This is very clear to me that at the time of the palace being set up; is jacobs trouble, then the second coming.(napoleon is out of the picture).
Mark13:14. But when ye shall see THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION,spoken of by Daniel the prophet, STANDING WHERE IT OUGHT NOT, let him that readeth understand, then let them that be in judea flee to the mountains.
This is.
(JACOBS TROUBLE)the attack on jerusalem,thenTHE COMING.It is clear to me that napoleon has nothing to do with the time of the end as you can see; over 200yrs has pased since napoleon.
You also said that there will be no more temple build.
We know that the jews are planning to build the new temple.
This is for sure.2Thess 2:4. Who opposeth and exalted himself above ALL that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the -TEMPLE OF GOD–,showing himself that he is God.(this is the temple that is going to be build).
You also said that this POPE is the man of perdition spoken of in 2thess.2:3. and that he is not given power yet but just influencing the minds. And when he is given power,he will be for 3 1/2yrs.then cast in the fire.
This only means that this POPE, will be in charge of the U.N and uproot 3 kings.
I still can not see that the jews will accept him (a german)as their messiah.And this POPE is going to cuase every one to receive a mark(doctrine) a new religion;the atheist and the ignostics,muslems, included.This does not compute.
I am sorry georg, but I can not swollow that; but I still appreciate it,thank you.
wakeup.
all
this can only be ROMAN POWER
Da 11:31 “His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation.
Da 11:32 With flattery he will corrupt those who have violated the covenant, but the people who know their God will firmly resist him.
Da 11:33 “Those who are wise will instruct many, though for a time they will fall by the sword or be burned or captured or plundered.
Da 11:34 When they fall, they will receive a little help, and many who are not sincere will join them.
Da 11:35 Some of the wise will stumble, so that they may be refined, purified and made spotless until the time of the end, for it will still come at the appointed time.Da 12:1 “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered.
one of those saved is definitively the apostle John ,
everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered.so the saved ones are only the true people of God,
Quote 1) Who's Steve?
2) It is you that believes in a PHONEY RAPTURE, not me!
3) John 9:39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world,
that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.
4) He does thing exactly the way he says he will! (see John 15:15 and Isaiah 5:18-21)
5) Some who have incorrect understanding of Scripture do spread lies. (see 2Tm.3:13)Hi Ed J,
1.You put a video on and you don't even know his name. interesting!
2. It not my catching away, it is God holly Writ.
3. Has nothing to do with a Catching Away (Rapture) either way.
4. John 15:15 , Has nothing to do with a Catching Away (Rapture) either way.
4b. Isa 5:18-21, Has nothing to do with a Catching Away (Rapture) either way.
5. 2Tm.3:13, Has nothing to do with a Catching Away (Rapture) either way.
Nothing has changed, the false vine always accuses and never show truth.
I am still looking for your proof, Something that fixes the scriptures I gave you to fit your doctrine.
(1Cor15)God Bless
MarlinQuote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 15 2012,10:18) Quote 1) Who's Steve?
2) It is you that believes in a PHONEY RAPTURE, not me!
3) John 9:39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world,
that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.
4) He does thing exactly the way he says he will! (see John 15:15 and Isaiah 5:18-21)
5) Some who have incorrect understanding of Scripture do spread lies. (see 2Tm.3:13)Hi Ed J,
1.You put a video on and you don't even know his name. interesting!
2. It not my catching away, it is God holly Writ.
3. Has nothing to do with a Catching Away (Rapture) either way.
4. John 15:15 , Has nothing to do with a Catching Away (Rapture) either way.
4b. Isa 5:18-21, Has nothing to do with a Catching Away (Rapture) either way.
5. 2Tm.3:13, Has nothing to do with a Catching Away (Rapture) either way.
Nothing has changed, the false vine always accuses and never show truth.
I am still looking for your proof, Something that fixes the scriptures I gave you to fit your doctrine.
(1Cor15)God Bless
Marlin
Hi Marlin,If you were looking for truth, you would certainly find it! (Luke 11:10)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (terraricca @ Mar. 15 2012,09:47) all this can only be ROMAN POWER
Da 11:31 “His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation.
Da 11:32 With flattery he will corrupt those who have violated the covenant, but the people who know their God will firmly resist him.
Da 11:33 “Those who are wise will instruct many, though for a time they will fall by the sword or be burned or captured or plundered.
Da 11:34 When they fall, they will receive a little help, and many who are not sincere will join them.
Da 11:35 Some of the wise will stumble, so that they may be refined, purified and made spotless until the time of the end, for it will still come at the appointed time.Da 12:1 “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered.
one of those saved is definitively the apostle John ,
everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered.so the saved ones are only the true people of God,
Hi Terra.It is a roman power indeed,and we are now the extension of that power(the legs); the new roman power. And soon this power will be changed into a new system.
wakeup.
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