Why do many religions focus on Enoch?

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  • #92253
    Enochs author
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    Why does Wicca, The Book of Moromon, and so many others focus on Enoch?

    #92275
    NickHassan
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    Hi EA and welcome,
    It is a surprising book that if you truly believed was true would totally change your view of heaven and earth.
    Beyond that I hope you get some answers.
    Have you read it?
    It is accessible through the writings section of this site.

    #92713
    Proclaimer
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    Many religions also use the bible including religions that have their own book(s).

    #92746
    charity
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    Quote (t8 @ June 14 2008,15:35)
    Many religions also use the bible including religions that have their own book(s).


    I like “JUDE”

    not because its all true…..but because…

    he will admit and anouce that he is quoting ENOCHS THINKING….
    I think that if an author can share where they recieved their thoughts from…we would not be so blind.

    hope your well t8

    charity

    #97854
    Hanoch
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    Quote (Enochs author @ June 11 2008,08:35)
    Why does Wicca, The Book of Moromon, and so many others focus on Enoch?


    Probably Wicca focuses some bit on Enoch because his writings have been around longer to meddle with?

    #119729
    Phoenix
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    Quote (Enochs author @ June 11 2008,08:35)
    Why does Wicca, The Book of Moromon, and so many others focus on Enoch?


    Might it be because it holds some truth that the christians choose to deny?

    I dont know

    #161584
    terraricca
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    hi
    the bible has one common Spirit all 66 book that is .this is why the other ones do not fit in they have a spirit of there own.

    #168692
    banana
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    I believe reading the book of Enoch would help more people to understand some things in the Bible better; for instant, the difference between Satan's devils, and the fallen angels. Although both groups are created spirit beings, Satan and his devils are allowed to rohm and deceive the world; while the fallen angels are locked up till judgement day. This group was responsible for the corruption of God's way in the beginning, and the flood.

    Georg

    #168698
    terraricca
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    hi georg
    i have look at the book ;but the scriptures is the one ;my reasons are this you learn much during your live time ,we close to the same age,what is really left of that learning not much does it ,we have learned more from the scriptures about the world, ourselves,and above all who made us our father in heaven,this is the knowledge who will never fainted away it is forever,this is the knowledge i want the rest like Paul says it is garbage.their is much more to learn in the scriptures by reading it daily than reading a news paper. this is my line of thought

    #170888
    Ed J
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    Quote (banana @ Jan. 05 2010,15:23)
    I believe reading the book of Enoch would help more people to understand some things in the Bible better; for instant, the difference between Satan's devils, and the fallen angels. Although both groups are created spirit beings, Satan and his devils are allowed to rohm and deceive the world; while the fallen angels are locked up till judgement day. This group was responsible for the corruption of God's way in the beginning, and the flood.

    Georg


    Hi Georg,

    I did read the whole book of Enoch.
    I can draw your attention to the best parts if you want me to?

    One of the best parts is Chapter 14:9-25(through the end of the Chapter).
    Read this and tell me what you think?

    I will give you more if you want as well; OK?

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #174339
    thehappyman
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    The book of Enoch openned my eyes as to how Noah became righteous in the sight of God . The Holy Bible is my favorite book and the book of Enoch is my second book.

    #174344
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (thehappyman @ Jan. 30 2010,05:04)
    The book of Enoch openned my eyes as to how Noah became righteous in the sight of God .
    The Holy Bible is my favorite book and the book of Enoch is my second book.


    Hi HappyMan,

    What is your take on: Chapter 14:9-25?

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #175865
    Elizabeth
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    For Ed

    Ed, I give you a list of my studies, you let me know which one you would like to look at, and I copy it on this side; and then we can debate it; after that you pick another, how's that?

    THE EARTH
    WHO IS GOD?
    WHO IS JESUS?
    HEAVEN and HELL
    THE RAPTURE
    LEFT BEHIND
    LAZARUS AND THE RICH MAN
    DID ENOCH DIE?
    MELCHIZ’EDEK
    DANIEL’S VISIONS
    TERTULLIAN
    ISRAEL
    THE THREE SEVEN HEADED BEASTS
    ANTICHRIST
    NAPOLEON IN PROPHECEY
    THE SEVENTH HEAD
    THE SEVEN SEALS
    THE SEVEN TRUMPETS AND SEVEN BOWLS
    THE 144,000
    THE TWO WOMEN
    THE TWO WITNESSES
    THE DAY OF THE LORD
    THE TEMPLE
    THE THREE TYPES OF SONS
    THE ROMAN UNIVERSAL CHURCH

    Georg, that's not a title.

    #175870
    Ed J
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    Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 05 2010,16:53)
    For Ed

    Ed, I give you a list of my studies, you let me know which one you would like to look at, and I copy it on this side; and then we can debate it; after that you pick another, how's that?

     THE EARTH
     WHO IS GOD?
     WHO IS JESUS?
     HEAVEN and HELL
     THE RAPTURE
     LEFT BEHIND
     LAZARUS AND THE RICH MAN
     DID ENOCH DIE?
     MELCHIZ’EDEK
     DANIEL’S VISIONS
     TERTULLIAN
     ISRAEL
     THE THREE SEVEN HEADED BEASTS
     ANTICHRIST
     NAPOLEON IN PROPHECEY
     THE SEVENTH HEAD
     THE SEVEN SEALS
     THE SEVEN TRUMPETS AND SEVEN BOWLS
     THE 144,000
     THE TWO WOMEN
     THE TWO WITNESSES
     THE DAY OF THE LORD
     THE TEMPLE
     THE THREE TYPES OF SONS
     THE ROMAN UNIVERSAL CHURCH

    Georg, that's not a title.


    Hi Georg,

    Is that something I said [Georg, that's not a title]? Perhaps you meant this post for a different thread?
    This thread is about the book of Enoch, which you have not answered my question [What is your take on: Chapter 14:9-25?]?

    Are those all subjects or Chapters in your book? Debate implies disagreements and arguments, neither interest me!
    If instead you wish to discuss my view in comparison to your view, that I would be interested in doing.
    Others may gain a lot by our insight into God's word! Let's discuss the emboldened first.
    I suggest we discuss it on the appropriate thread, which ever that may be?

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of…
    117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD)YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17)
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #175873
    Elizabeth
    Participant

    Ed

    I didn't even see that you ask me that, well, I read through it again, but that part of the book tells me nothing that stands out.
    [Georg, that's not a title]? that's a joke.
    Since when did a title stop any one to talk about something else? besides, nobody has posted anything lately here that's why I chose this side.
    If you're not the freakiest screwball I have ever come across; you brag about how many books you have given away, how? by letting people read it on your website? now “I am” offering to do the same, and what is your response? I don't believe you! Yea, I just now read the rest of your post.
    “”” Are those all subjects or Chapters in your book? Debate implies disagreements and arguments, neither interest me!””” What have you been doing so far?
    Yes, they are both, subjects and chapters, as if that makes a difference. You know what you are? a fake! you are scared to look at my writings because you know what that will do to you in the eyes of others. You didn't seem right to me from the beginning.
    You just best go and play your roulette.

    Georg

    #175880
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 05 2010,17:44)
    Ed

    I didn't even see that you ask me that, well, I read through it again, but that part of the book tells me nothing that stands out.
    [Georg, that's not a title]? that's a joke.
    Since when did a title stop any one to talk about something else? besides, nobody has posted anything lately here that's why I chose this side.
    If you're not the freakiest screwball I have ever come across; you brag about how many books you have given away, how? by letting people read it on your website? now “I am” offering to do the same, and what is your response? I don't believe you! Yea, I just now read the rest of your post.
    “”” Are those all subjects or Chapters in your book? Debate implies disagreements and arguments, neither interest me!””” What have you been doing so far?
    Yes, they are both, subjects and chapters, as if that makes a difference. You know what you are? a fake! you are scared to look at my writings because you know what that will do to you in the eyes of others. You didn't seem right to me from the beginning.
    You just best go and play your roulette.

    Georg


    Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 05 2010,16:53)
    For Ed

    Ed, I give you a list of my studies, you let me know which one you would like to look at, and I copy it on this side; and then we can debate it; after that you pick another, how's that?

     THE THREE SEVEN HEADED BEASTS

    Georg, that's not a title.


    Hi Georg,

    What does this most recent Post of your even mean?
    Are you going to respond to…What is your take on: Chapter 14:9-25 of the book of Enoch on this thread?
    Do you not want to discuss on a different thread my first pick as you offered…
    THE THREE SEVEN HEADED BEASTS

    Why are you upset with me? Can we “please” try to get along?
    So far I've been trying to establish “Bible Truth”.

    In case you didn't understand my Post, let me rephrase it for you.
    Let's start with…THE THREE SEVEN HEADED BEASTS; OK?
    If I see things differently than you I will ONLY present my view to you,
    “IF” you disagree with my view, I will not try to convince you my view is correct; because I will not argue with you.
    At that point let's move on to the next point, I don't understand why this approach would upset you so?

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #175956
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 05 2010,17:44)
    Ed

    I didn't even see that you ask me that, well, I read through it again, but that part of the book tells me nothing that stands out.
    [Georg, that's not a title]? that's a joke.
    Since when did a title stop any one to talk about something else? besides, nobody has posted anything lately here that's why I chose this side.
    If you're not the freakiest screwball I have ever come across; you brag about how many books you have given away, how? by letting people read it on your website? now “I am” offering to do the same, and what is your response? I don't believe you! Yea, I just now read the rest of your post.
    “”” Are those all subjects or Chapters in your book? Debate implies disagreements and arguments, neither interest me!””” What have you been doing so far?
    Yes, they are both, subjects and chapters, as if that makes a difference. You know what you are? a fake! you are scared to look at my writings because you know what that will do to you in the eyes of others. You didn't seem right to me from the beginning.
    You just best go and play your roulette.

    Georg


    Hi Georg,

    satan has truly intruded between us, you don't seem to grasp what I intend?
    You apparently mistakenly thought this(Chapter 14:9-25?) was a reference to “HolyCityBibleCode”.
    The answers to all these questions are in the free e-book,
    if you take the time to read it you will understand my view of GOD.

    Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 04 2010,17:27)
    Ed

    You are so full of it I don't even know were to begin, but let me try.

    So let me ask this, in plain English, and without any numbers, what do you believe?
    Is God one, two or three? Is Jesus equal to the Father or not?
    When Jesus was here on earth, was flesh, spirit, or both?
    You know, just a few questions to start with.

    Georg


    The answers to these questions were NOT conveniently located at Chapter 14:9-25(that was a question about the “Book of Enoch”?
    You still have not answered the book of Enoch question? I will formulate a response to your most recent Post very soon; OK?
    But it might be nice for you to consider answering the “Book of Enoch” question, which is “on” the book of Enoch “Thread”.

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of…
    117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD)YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17)
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #176012
    Elizabeth
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 06 2010,03:43)

    Elizabeth,Feb. wrote:

    Ed

    I didn't even see that you ask me that, well, I read through it again, but that part of the book tells me nothing that stands out.


    Ed

    That comment was in response to the book of Enoch.
    As far as your book is concerned, I answered you too; nothing there that makes sense to me.

    Georg

    #176043
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 05 2010,19:01)
    Ed

    Did you not read my first sentense of that post?
    Yea, I believe you don't understand, I still think you weird.
    Anyway here is my study on

    THE THREE SEVEN HEADED BEASTS

    In the book of Daniel we have read about four beasts, and then given to understand they were kingdoms; they were compared to the three strongest predators in the animal kingdom; the fourth being so strong and terrible, Daniel didn’t know what animal to compare it too. Ever wonder why these kingdoms were compared to these animals? Ever watch “Wild Kingdom? That’s exactly how these kingdoms behaved; kill, and destroy.
    In the book of Revelation we read about beasts with seven heads; Rev. 12:3; Rev. 13:1, and Rev. 17:3; with horns and crowns on their heads.
    Next to the book of Daniel, the book of Revelation uses more symbolism and metaphors then any other book of the Bible. The seven heads for instance, which are on all three beasts, represent the seven kingdoms/empires of the Bible. A horn stands for a king or ruler, while the crown emphasizes the power to rule. What is also very important to understand is, ten is not the number of ten individuals, it is the number of completion, or for “all” included.

    The first seven headed beast:
    Rev. 12:3  “And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having  seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.”
    The dragon of course is Satan; the red color stands for violence, blood, and sin; as all of his kingdoms were.  
    Is. 1:18   “Come now, let us reason together, saith the LORD; though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.”
    The fact that Satan is shown with the seven heads, the seven empires, shows “He” is the power behind all worldly kingdoms. From the very beginning, Satan’s ambition was to rule the whole universe, and to be worshiped. His attempt to overthrow God failed, no surprise there, and he has now made it his main purpose to derail God’s plan for us, by using every one of his kingdoms.
    The ten horns on this beast are all the kings that would rule in all seven empires during their individual duration. Notice, there are only seven crowns, one for each empire.
    Rev. 12:4   “And his tail drew the thired part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.”
    The third part of the stars of heaven are the angels that followed Satan in his rebellion. Satan tried to kill the new born child Jesus by using king Herod; who, being afraid of the new king of the Jews, had all new born boys two years and under killed.
    v. 5  “And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up to God, and to his throne.”
    “She”, a reference to the woman in verse one, is the nation Israel; the man child is Jesus. By seeing Jesus killed, Satan thought he had accomplished what he had set out to do, instead, just the opposite was true. Defeating death by defeating sin, Jesus ascended up to heaven, and was set down on the right hand on God’s throne; highest place of honor.  

    The second seven headed beast:
    Rev. 13:1  “And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns and upon his horns ten crowns; and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.”
    This beast is the Roman beast/empire; the seven heads on it is to hide the identity of the one who received the deadly wound, verse three. The ten horns are all the kings, and emperors, that would rule Rome during its entire existence. Notice, there are also “ten crowns”, showing all rulers of Rome had power to rule. The blasphemous names on all the heads/kingdoms, show that no kingdom of this world, Satan’s world, is honoring God.  
    v. 2  “And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion; and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.”
    Daniel already told us, Dan. 7:7, the fourth beast was more terrible then the other three; we see this beast is made up from parts of the three previous beasts, indicating, Rome was as bad as the others three put together.
    Rev. 13:3 “And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed; and all the world wondered after the beast.”
    Questions:
    Which head received the deadly wound?
    When and how was the deadly wound inflicted?
    When and how was the deadly wound healed?

    I would have to get ahead of myself if I were to explain this now, first another beast.
    Rev. 13:11   “And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.”
    This beast is the Antichrist (see Antichrist).

    The third seven headed beast:
    Rev. 17:3   “So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness; and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.”
    The wilderness represents Satan’s domain, this world. The seven heads are the same seven major kingdoms, but this time we see a woman sitting on this beast. A woman is symbolic for a church or a religious organization, just as the saints are the bride of Christ.
    2 Cor. 11:2   “For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.”
    It is unfortunate how misunderstood this next verse is.
    Rev. 17:9   “And here is the mind which has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.”
          These seven mountains have absolutely nothing to do with the seven hills Rome is supposed to be build on; they are the same seven kingdoms/heads mentioned throughout the book of Revelation. “Mountain” is a metaphor for “kingdom”; these seven mountains are the seven/heads/kingdoms the woman, false religion, is sitting on. God will establish his holy Mountain/Kingdom here on earth; through Jesus Christ; we read this in
    Dan. 2:35   “Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.”  
    Further more, the next verse tell us exactly what the seven mountains are, were.
    Rev. 17:10   “And there are seven kings; five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.”
    This woman, representing all false religion, “sitting” on the beast, representing all the kingdoms of the world, shows that all of Satan’s kingdoms have been influenced by their religions. The fact that she is not “riding” the beast tells us, she was never in control of the kingdoms. Although the emphasis of this woman is given to the Antichrists church.
    Rev. 17:4  “And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:  
    v. 5     “And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.”
    v. 6   “And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration (see Antichrist).”
    The only thing different on this beast is, it h
    as ten horns but no crowns, why, what does that mean?      
    Rev. 17:12   “And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.”
    These kings/rulers receive power “as kings”, one hour with the beast; that is to say, a very short time.
    v. 13    “These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast (see the seventh head).”
    The seven heads/kings are, as I have been pointing out, the seven empires of the bible. The Apostle John received this revelation at the end of the first Century or during the time of the king “that is”, the Roman king, or King/head # 6; the five that are fallen are
    King/head Number 5, the Greek Empire,
    King/head Number 4, the Medo-Persian Empire,
    King/head Number 3, the Babylonian Empire,
    King/head Number 2, the Assyrian Empire,
    King/head Number 1, the Egyptian Empire.
    Now with the identity of six of the heads, I can also identify the head that received the deadly wound. It could not have been one of the five that had already come and gone; it would not have made any sense to even mention it to John. It could not be head number seven because this king was made up of many kings (verse 12). That leaves only head number six, the Roman/head, that received the deadly wound. When and how was the wound inflicted? When and how was it healed?
    By the third century, the Roman Empire was divided with a capital and an emperor in the West, Rome, and a capital and an emperor in the East, Constantinople. By the end of the fourth century, many Germanic tribes were fleeing west, away from the dreadful Huns. One of these tribes, the Vandals, first came to Spain. Then in 439 AD, their king, Gaiseric, captured Carthage, North Africa, a piece of the Roman Empire. He was the first of the three horns that would later be uprooted.
    Dan. 7:8   “I considered the horns, and behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.” (the little horn, see Antichrist)
    From here the Vandals staged many raiding parties against Rome. In 455 AD, they came toward Rome with an enormous fleet. When Rome became aware of it, woman and children left the City. Pope Leo I (little horn) met with the Vandal King and proposed a deal; if the King would promise not to kill and burn, Rome would not oppose him. The King accepted, and for two weeks the Vandals sacked Rome unopposed.  
    The Heruli, another Germanic tribe, hired themselves out as mercenaries fighting for Rome. However, in 476 AD, their king Odoacer decided to make Italy his kingdom and deposed the Roman emperor Romulus Augustulus. Taking over Rome and making it his kingdom made him the second horn of the three. Also, this very act, deposing the Roman emperor, was the deadly wound to the Roman head.
    Why is it called the deadly wound? You have to understand, people living in Italy had never known any other government but the Romans. Rome, the very symbol of the empire, had fallen into the hands of barbarians. For a little kingdom as the Heruli to depose their emperor, and take over the kingdom, had to be shocking. The people must have been waiting for the eastern emperor to come and rescue them, but nothing happened. First Rome lost Carthage, now Italy; People must have wondered, was this the end of Rome? Was Rome dead?
    The Eastern Empire had to look for other allies, the Ostrogoth. Roman Emperor Zeno commissioned Theodoric, king of the Ostrogoth, to deal with the Herulis. In 493 AD, Theodoric invaded Italy and defeated the Herulis, killing Odoacer himself. The defeat of the Heruli market the uprooting of the first of the three horn.
    In 527 AD, Justinian became Emperor. His ambition was to restore lost territories to the Empire. And in 533 AD, he sent his best and most trusted general, Belisarius, to recapture Carthage, which he did. This defeat of the Vandals was the uprooting of the second of the three horn. In the meantime, the Ostrogoth had made Italy their kingdom and by doing so had become the third horn.  So in 535 AD, Justinian sent Belisarius on another mission: defeat the Ostrogoth. It took the general eighteen years to accomplish that mission. The year 553 AD, not only marked the uprooting of the third horn; most importantly, it marked the year of the healing of the deadly wound; Rome and Italy had become the Roman Empire again, and so did Carthage, North Africa. What a victory celebration that must have been? And the world was glad; they cheered, they danced and said, “Who is as strong as the beast, as Rome, who dares to make war with him“. We are the best; we are the strongest; we are number 1; we all know these sheers, don’t we?
    Rev. 13:4   “And they worshiped the dragon which gave power unto the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? Who is able to make war with him?”  
    You see, Satan does not care which of his kingdoms fights against whom. As far as he is concerned, they can kill each other off completely; that is his whole purpose. And we are so dumb to think one has an advantage over the other.
    Question, can you worship the dragon/Satan, and not knowing that you do? Yes, you can. The Bible clearly teaches that all the kingdoms of the world belong to Satan; he is the god of this world, as we read in
    2 Cor. 4:4   “In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not…”
    When you put your trust and confidence in your government/king, believing and trusting in his military might, you are in fact worshiping the dragon, Satan. And we know all of his kingdoms will be destroyed.
    Dan. 2:35   “Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.”  
    Which is “God’s mountain”, God’s kingdom.  
               
         
         Georg


    Hi Georg,

    An interesting read.
    Could you Post 'antichrist' next.
    I assume that is the chapter of those questions.

    Ed J

    #176075
    Elizabeth
    Participant

    Ed

    A N T I C H R I S T

    Ever since the death of Jesus; there have been those that have tried to get a following, using the name Christ. Not going by Bible teaching, they are for the most part, anti-Christ. But the Bible speaks of one particular individual whom Paul calls the man of sin, and the son of perdition, meaning, the son of destruction. There is only one scripture that actually mentions the antichrist.
    1 John 2:18 “Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.”
    All the other names such as; the little horn; the beast out of the earth; the imposter; the false prophet; the image of the beast; are given him because they describe him, and what he does.
    The first time reference is given to him is in the book of Daniel.
    Dan. 7:7 “After this I saw in the night vision, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.”
    This fourth beast is the Roman beast.
    v. 8 “I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots; and behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.”
    There are at least four important facts that have been overlooked by those trying to explain this little horn. One; it came up on the Roman beast, showing it had its beginning during the Roman empire. Two; it was a “little horn” showing that it had a small and insignificant beginning. Three; it had eyes, and a mouth, showing it was intelligent and knew how to speak well. Four; it was present when the three horns were uprooted, not that it had anything to do with the uprooting itself.
    Who is this little horn? Antichrist, the Pope of the Roman Catholic church. How do I know, and how can I be sure? By what was said about him, and what he would do.
    From the last study we should understand the meaning of a horn. It stands for power, for a king or ruler. Antichrist was not a real king, but he ruled as one; and he even made himself a crown to emphasize his power to rule.
    v. 20 “And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout then his fellows.”
    v. 21 “I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them.”
    Who made war with the saints, persecuted them, and killed them for their believes? Was it not the Romans first, and then the pope, the Catholic church? Have you heard of the Spanish inquisition?
    This little horn would become the ruler of what used to be the western part of the Roman Empire. He then would begin to persecute the saints, make war with them, and execute all who refused to worship him.
    v. 25 “And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws; and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.”
    The Emperor Constantine changed some of the laws, as you will read a little further on. Julius Caesar had already changed the time, the calendar, in 45 BC. In 1585 AD, Pope Gregory XIII changed it again. The reason: so that all Catholic churches would celebrate the Resurrection of Christ, Easter, on the same date.
    Although a physician from Naples proposed the new calendar, the pope got the credit for it; it is called the Gregorian calendar.
    Antichrist’s rule would last three and a half years, or 1,260 days; a year for a day would make his rule last 1,260 years. It was God’s judgment that at the end of his time, his dominion, his power, would be taken away.
    v. 26 “But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.”
    Reading about the Antichrist in the book of Revelation can be a bit confusing because of the many references made of him, and because the scriptures are not all in sequence.
    Rev. 13:11 “And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.”
    Earth is a metaphor for “all the people”, meaning, he was not a ruler or even had a kingdom, but he would become a ruler, a very powerful one. He gave the appearance of a lamb, Jesus Christ is the Lamb; he was the imposter, the wolf in sheep clothing; what he spoke, his doctrines, were devilish.
    v. 5 “And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two month.”
    Notice the description and time period, the same as in Daniel.
    v. 6 “And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blasphemy his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.”
    He blasphemed God by claiming he was the “vicar of the Son of God”. God’s tabernacle are the saints; some of the succeeding popes even claimed to have equal power to God; to be God’s mediator, the high priest as in the OT. We only have one mediator between God and men.
    1 Tim. 2:5 “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.”
    Remember what Jesus told us would happen?
    John 5:43 “I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not; if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.”
    His power and influence grew so great, he ruled practically over the whole world.
    Rev. 13: 7 “And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.”
    Even Paul had to deal with anti-Christ’s.
    Gal. 1:6 “I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel.”
    v. 7 “Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.”
    And that is what the pope has basically done, pervert the gospel of Christ; he is not teaching from the Bible, he writes his own. All who do not believe the Word of God, but believe, and worshiped him; their names are not written in the book of life.
    Rev. 13:8 “And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.”
    Today in our twenty-first century we no longer say beast or kingdom, they are all governing bodies, or short, governments.
    Rev. 13:12 “And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.”
    The first beast before him was Rome, he, the pope, was not ruler yet, and so he made sure that all showed respect for the emperor. The fact that the deadly wound was healed; shows that his rule began sometime after the healing, after AD 553; something was holding him back; what kept him from taking over?
    2 Thes. 2:7 “For the mystery of iniquity does already work; only he who now letteth (restrains) will let (will restrain), until he (the restrainer) be taken out of the way.”
    Let me briefly explain how Christianity became the empires religion. Constantine had to fight many of his own to become sole emperor of the empire. The most famous battle was against Maxentius his brother-in-law, in 312 AD. He claimed he had a vision; he saw a red cross in the heavens with the inscription under it “Under this sign conquer.” He then had red crosses painted on the shields of his soldiers and did win the battle. He gave credit for the victory to the God of this new religion “Christianity.” This cross would become the mark of Rome, the beast. Even
    the Crusaders fought under a red cross. In 313 AD, he stopped the persecution and gave Christians the freedom to practice their religion. In 321 AD, he made a new law; worship service was to be held on Sunday and no work on that day. Then in 324 AD, he declared Christianity the universal religion of his empire. This was the beginning of the Roman Catholic church. In 325 AD, he, Constantine, presided over the “first Council of Nicea”; over three hundred Bishops attended; among other things, it was decided what a Christian was and what he should believe, also that God was a trinity, that the commemoration of Christ’s death no longer be kept, enforced by death, instead the resurrection be celebrated on Sunday.
    You better read that again, and slow this time.
    The emperor made many changes in support of the church even build some Churches and that was not unusual or surprising because he was after all the “Pontifex Maximus”, “chief religious ruler.” Roman emperors ruled not only over the State, they ruled over all religions too. And that was what was restraining Antichrist, holding him back, the emperor; no one dared to claim that title as long as there was an emperor around, he, the Antichrist, the Pope, would show his respect and made sure every one else did too.
    The church had grown much since Constantine made Christianity the universal religion in 324 AD. The Church grew in numbers and so did the overseers, the Bishops; some were also called Pope, Father. In 533 AD, the emperor Justinian decided that only the bishop of Rome should hold the title “Pope-Father”.
    The year 565 AD marked the end of waiting; Justinian died; he was the last emperor to rule the East and the West because no other emperor of the East was able to maintain control over the West. Now his reign of terror would begin; the restrainer was taken out of the way.
    By the time he began to rule, his power and prestige, not to mention the superstition of the people, had greatly increased. He was the one that kept the Vandals from killing and burning Rome. He was the one that persuaded Attila the Hun, from invading Rome.
    Rev. 13:13 “And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men.”
    Antichrist, the pope, never performed any wonders, and he never made fire come down from heaven. First lets understand what heaven means.
    Mat. 5:34 “But I say unto you, swear not at all: neither by heaven; for it is God’s throne.”
    Heaven is a place of authority; heaven above is the place of all authority. But the Bible tells us there are heavens on earth.
    Ps. 50:4 “He shall call to the heavens from above, and to the earth, that he may judge his people.”
    Heavens on earth are places of religious authority, churches. And what was the fire he made come down from his heaven, the Vatican?
    1 Peter 1:7 “That the trails of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ.”
    The persecution, fiery trials, was ordered from the Popes heaven, the Vatican, his place of religious authority. On the earth, earth meaning, on all the people who dared to oppose him, in the sight of men, meaning public torture and execution.
    Rev. 13:14 “And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword and did live.”
    In the sight of the beast? These beasts were all the new kings and princes of Europe; they were the once that carried out the executions ordered by the pope.
    Also, this is were the pope is referred to as the image of the beast, why image? We know that the beast was Rome. The Pope admired the way the Roman emperors had ruled, with a fist of iron and a sword, only he would leave the wielding of the sword to the new kings of Europe.
    Rome no longer ruled the West, and the pope assumed full power and control, not only over all religion, but also over all new kings that would arise out of what used to be the Western Roman Empire. But he,
    the pope, became the emperor.
    The cardinals became the senators.
    The bishops became the governors.
    And the priests and monks became the mayors.
    Yes, indeed, he became the image of the beast, and he too is rightfully called a beast.
    Rev. 13:15 “And he had power to give live unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.”
    No one dared to oppose him when he made himself ruler, or oppose his doctrine; anyone who did was tortured and executed. The numbers estimated of victims killed by Antichrist are as high as 50 million; sounds high, does it not? And I suppose there is no way to verify the number but, when you compare the number to Russians dictator Joseph Stalin, who in only a quarter of a century killed over 20 million of his own people, and Adolf Hitler, who in as little as a decade killed 6 million Jews, where Antichrists had over twelve “Centuries” to do his killing, then the number doesn’t appear so large anymore. Also, when we consider the number of saints that gave their lives as a testimony of their faith to God, how many should we think fell away for fear of torture and death? Two, three times as many? Because this is what Paul said; would be another identifying sign for the Antichrist:
    2 Thes. 2:3 “Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.”
    How many of us today could stand the test, and not deny Christ, facing torture and death? Early Catholic church history reveals that some Popes claimed to be equal to God. People in fact feared the Pope more then God.
    v. 4 “Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God”.
    The temple of God are the saints; sitting in the temple is to say, he was in command over them; he set himself up as their god and any disobedience ended in death.
    Rev. 13:16 “And he causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads.”
    Now this is the verse that has people scared half to death, and all because it is so misunderstood. First of all, it says, “a mark”, which is an indication that Antichrist has more then one mark by which those that have received it can be identified. What are his marks? They are his doctrines. In your right hand means you received his doctrines, accepted his doctrine; in your forehead, yes, you believe his doctrine, and participate in his worship service. And yes, had you lived during his reign, it would not have mattered who or what you were; it was very simple; if you’re not with me, then you’re against me; and that meant death.
    Rev. 13:17 “And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.”
    This is the other scary verse; no man might buy or sell; buy or sell what? Now that we know that these verses are not written for our time, we should also realize that they do not refer to food or any other commodity. What no man could buy or sell was the Word of God. Bibles were hard to come by; and even when they would, would you be caught reading or owning a Bible, you would be killed. People were kept in the dark about the Word of God; they were easier to control and fooled that way; they were left to their superstition and made to believe that the Pope had godlike powers. Only those that had the mark, the cross: monks, priests, bishops and cardinals always wore a cross and still do; or the name of the beast, Roman Catholic, could buy, “read”, or sell, “teach” the word of the Antichri
    st. The number 666 is not even a mark; it is the number of his name that identifies him as Antichrist.
    v. 18 “Here is wisdom. Let him that has understanding count the number of the beast: (the beast out of the earth) for it is the number of a man; and his number is six hundred threescore and six.”
    The number of a man, the number of his name, a name could also be a title. The pope has a crown, a triple crown, called the tiara. On it is an inscription in Latin: “VICARIVS FILII DEI,” which means “vicar of the Son of God.” Some Latin letters also have a numerical value.
    V I C A R I V S – F I L I I – D E I
    5 1 100 0 0 1 5 0 0 1 50 1 1 500 0 1 = 666
    To help identify that man, whose name is that number; is the only significance of that number. Coincident? With God there are no coincidences. Why did Jesus tell us?
    John 5:43 “I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive (believe) me not; if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive (believe).”
    v. 44 “How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?”
    Have we forgotten the warning?
    Mat. 24:4 “And Jesus answered and said unto them, take heed that no man deceive you.”
    v. 5 “For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.”
    How many Churches, denominations, do we have today that call themselves Christians? And why are there so many denominations? We only have one Bible; shouldn’t every church be teaching the same? And do they not all confess that Jesus is Christ? Where did all these churches and denominations originate? Until the early sixteenth century, the pope ruled supreme; then in 1517 AD, a German monk, Martin Luther, spoiled it all for the pope. He dared to oppose the pope by making his ninety-five disagreements with the Catholic church public, thanks to the printing press, which had been invented a century earlier. It did not take long and others followed, broke away from the Catholic church. Most of the blame goes to the totally corrupt and immoral behavior of the clergy. History recalls this period as the “Great Reformation.” New churches sprang up all over Europe in spite of the persecution. Whatever doctrine these new churches adopted, the basic teaching they held to was from the “Mother church”, the “Roman Catholic church”.
    And how did Paul come to the Corinthians?
    1 Cor. 2:1 “And I, bretheren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.”
    v. 4 “And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power.”
    v. 5 “That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.”
    What is it that draws people to a particular church? Why do people choose to belong to a Baptist church, or a Methodist, or Lutheran, or any other denomination? I believe the most common answer would be, my parents and grand parents belonged to it. But there are other reasons why people go to a certain church; one is, it’s a beautiful building; another reason is, they have entertainment; and not least of all, they have a powerful and skilled speaker; he really knows how to preach. It is the last reason I gave; we have to be most beware of, as Paul warned us about.
    Col. 2:8 “Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments (principles) of the world, and not after Christ.”
    Now let me say something about the “mark of the beast“, the mark of Rome, the “cross“. Christians are obvious very fond of the cross. We see it on top of Churches; we have it displayed in Churches, in Hospitals, in our homes, and around our necks. We practically worship the cross. So I want you to consider for just a moment. What “if” Jesus had been beheaded as John the Baptist? Or “if” he had been hung as Judas was? What “if” the Roman soldiers had used him for target practice? What “if” he had died of one of a dozen other ways? Would our admiration for that object of death be the same? Would we display it the same as the cross? The cross was one of, if not, the cruelest means of death. The victim was nailed to the cross naked, open to shame and ridicule, insults and harassment, unprotected from the weather, unable to defend against insect’s and birds, left hanging there till death which could take as long as a week; do we think of that when we by a cross?
    Jesus died that same afternoon. That is also the reason why permission had to be obtained for the release of Jesus from the cross; it was highly unusual for a victim to die so soon.
    Luke 23:50 “And, behold, there was a man named Joseph, a counsellor, and he was a good man, and a just.”
    v. 52 “This man went unto Pilate and begged the body of Jesus.”
    And even then, a soldier made sure Jesus was dead by piercing him with a lance.
    Now, we may think that Paul speaks highly of the cross.
    1 Cor. 1:17 “For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel; not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.”
    v. 18 “For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.”
    But he is not; it should be obvious that when Paul says cross of Christ, he means Christ’s sacrifice on the cross. It is after all not the cross that saves us, but Christ’s death on the cross, his sacrifice; and do we think about his sacrifice when we hang a silver-, or gold-, or diamond-studded cross around our neck? It is, like it or not, “the mark of the beast“. What are some of the marks of the image of the beast, Antichrist? that identifies those that have received them, right hand, and believe them, forehead?
    The believe in a trinity,
    The believe in the equality of the son to the Father,
    The believe in man’s immortal soul,
    The believe in a rapture,
    Praying to statues of saints,
    The confessing of ones sins to a Priest, a man,
    Celebrating of the Mass as a sacrifice for sins,
    Paying for indulgencies, etc.
    Rev. 14:6 “And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people.”
    v. 7 “Saying with a loud voice, fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of water.”
    v. 8 “And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.”
    Babylon stands for confusion, false religion. The city that has been representing Babylon is Rome, to be more precise, the Vatican in Rome. She hasn’t fallen yet, but it want be long now. The Roman Catholic church has made all nations drunk with her false doctrines. Believing only one of her doctrines makes you a receiver of her mark. God is saying, there is still time to come out of her system.
    v. 9 “And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, if any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand.”
    v. 10 “The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb.”
    This is God’s last warning to stop worshiping the beast and his image. This, and the previous study thoroughly explain who they are. This judgment will be on the entire world, and will bring about the end of this era. Jesus Christ, his angels, and the resurrected saints will be witnessing God’s judgment on the world. Fire and brimstone only emphasize the
    severity of God’s judgment.
    v. 11 “And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.”
    Just as the smoke of the prayers of the saints ascended up before God,
    Rev. 8:4 “And the smoke of the incense, which came up with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel’s hand.”
    So will the cries of those that did not heed his warning. Forever and ever, as long as God’s punishment will last. The mark of his name? The name is Rome; the mark of Rome is the cross.
    Rev. 14:12 “Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.”
    What is the patience of the saints? To know the word of God and wait patiently, trusting him to carry it out. Jesus had faith in his Father that after he died he would be resurrected.
    v. 14 “And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.”
    v. 15 “And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, thrust in thy sickle, and reap; for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.”
    Jesus had told us, the harvesting of the world would come at the end of the world.
    Matt. 13:38 “The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one.”
    v. 39 “The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.”
    v. 40 “As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.”
    v. 41 “The son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and they which do iniquity.”
    v. 42 “And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.”
    There are several things we have pay attention to on what these scriptures are saying. Jesus is speaking of the end of this age, not far from now. God’s wrath will be on the entire world. He will gather the tares, those who do iniquity and cast them into a furnace of fire; this is not the lake of fire; this is not God’s final judgment. He will punish all who have ignored his Word; there will be much suffering, wailing, and gnashing of teeth; the smoke of their torment shall ascent up before God, who will turn away. He had allowed both, the wheat and the tares, to grow until harvesting.
    v. 30 “Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, gather ye together first the tares, and bind them to bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.”
    This is what we read in
    Rev. 14:17 “And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.”
    v. 18 “And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.”
    v. 19 “And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.”
    The great winepress is synonymous with a furnace of fire.
    v. 20 “And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horses bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.”
    “Without the city”, meaning Satan’s world. The “winepress” and the “river of two hundred miles of blood” are symbolic in a way. We assume it is a river because it is two hundred miles long, and four and a half feet deep; it doesn’t say how wide; if it was only one hundred feet wide, it would require the blood of the entire world population; and that is precisely the point being made here.
    Noah was told to build an Ark, and it saved him and his family; what God is asking us today don’t come close to the time and labor involved of building an Ark.
    Our tradition can be our worst enemy; it’s like quicksand, hard to get out of, even when shown the truth. Jesus referred to it as new wine.
    Luke 5:37 “And no man putteth new wine into old bottles; else the new wine will burst the bottles, and be spilled, and the bottles shall perish.”
    v. 38 “But new wine must be put into new bottles; and both are preserved.”
    v. 39 “No man also having drunk old wine straightway desireth new; for he saith, the old is better.”
    You can not put new truth into old tradition. I know firsthand change doesn’t come easy, and it doesn’t come quick; but I have also learned that God is a patient God; he works the miracles; he expects no miracles from us. We are living in the most serious of generation. Remember the fig Tree?
    Mat. 24:32 “Now learn a parable of the fig tree, when his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh.”
    This fig tree is Israel; it put forth leaves in 1948 when Israel became a Nation again.
    v. 33 “So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the door.”
    v. 34 “Verily I say unto you, this generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.”
    We are seeing all these things, and more, happening before our eyes. The Bible tells us what a generation is.
    Ps. 90:10 “The days of our years are threescore years and ten (70 years); and if by reason of stength (health) they be fourscore years (80 years), yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.”
    In other words, a generation is seventy years; 1948 plus seventy years? do you hear God’s call, “come out of her my people?” Do we even understand what God is calling us to come out of? Do we understand, “any” church, which teaches “any” doctrine that Antichrist is teaching, has received a mark?
    Rev. 18:4 “And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.”
    “Her,” is the woman sitting on the scarlet-colored beast (Rev. 17:3); she represents all false religion. It is not what we call ourselves that matters; it is what God calls us “my people” that matters. We are only his people if we believe him. To be spared from “her plagues” you have to know the doctrines of God. God has punished his chosen people, the Israelites, very severely for their idolatry and disobedience.
    Hos. 4:6 “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou has rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee…”
    A lack of knowledge or lack of understanding of the Word of God shows a lack of interest in the Word of God and God himself. We put to much trust in others; read what God says in
    Eze. 14:13 “Son of man, when the land sinneth against me by trespassing grievously, then will I stretch out mine hand upon it, and will break the staff of the bread thereof, and will send famine upon it, and will cut off man and beast from it.”
    v. 14 “Though these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they should deliver but their own souls by their righteousness, saith the Lord God.”
    v. 15 “If I cause noisome beasts (enemy nations) to pass through the land, and they spoil it, so that it be desolate, that no man may pass through because of the beasts.”
    v. 16 “Though these three men were in it, as I live, saith the Lord God, they shall deliver neither sons nor daughters; they only shall be delivered, but the land shall be desolate.”
    v. 17 “Or if I bring a sword upon that land, and say, Sword, go through the land; so that I cut off man and beast from it.”
    v. 18 “Though these three men were in it, as I live, saith the Lord God, they shall deliver neither sons nor daughters; but they only shall
    be delivered themselves.”
    v. 19 “Or if I send a pestilence into that land, and pour out my fury upon it in blood, to cut off from it man and beast.”
    v. 20 “Though Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, as I live, saith the Lord God, they shall deliver neither son nor daughter; they shall but deliver their own souls by their righteousness.”
    Not even these holy men could deliver us; it is really very plain; if you ignore his warning now, he will ignore your cry later.
    Jer. 11:11 “Therefore thus saith the LORD, behold, I will bring evil upon them, which they shall not be able to escape; and though they shall cry unto me, I will not hearken unto them.”
    It doesn’t matter who teaches you; it is “your” responsibility to prove all things; ignorance will not save you, and neither will blaming others.

    Georg

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