Who received the holy spirit

[terraricca]

all

I have a question were I would like an answer to it ;why is it that before man is created it talks about God spirit,after man is fallen it talks about the holy spirit

Pierre

[terraricca]

All

now if someone answer the question above why ;

if it is the same spirit how then can we obtain it,possess it ,being part of it,use it,share it,preach it and refused to others.

Pierre

[NickHassan]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 15 2011,18:25)

All could anyone explain those words? Jn 3:11 I tell you the truth, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony. Pierre

Hi T,
“My Father and I will come to you…”
One in the Spirit.

[terraricca]

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Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 15 2011,18:25) All could anyone explain those words? Jn 3:11 I tell you the truth, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony. Pierre Hi T, “My Father and I will come to you…” One in the Spirit.

Nick

please tell me who are the “WE” that Jesus speak of

[NickHassan]

Hi t,
The Father and the Son-one in the Spirit

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 16 2012,15:47)

Hi t, The Father and the Son-one in the Spirit

Nick

show me that in the scripture ;

Jn 3:3 In reply Jesus declared, “I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.’”
Jn 3:4 “How can a man be born when he is old?” Nicodemus asked. “Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother’s womb to be born!”
Jn 3:5 Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit.
Jn 3:6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit.
Jn 3:7 You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You must be born again.’
Jn 3:8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”
Jn 3:9 “How can this be?” Nicodemus asked.
Jn 3:10 “You are Israel’s teacher,” said Jesus, “and do you not understand these things?
Jn 3:11 I tell you the truth, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony.
Jn 3:12 I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?
Jn 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.
Jn 3:14 Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the desert, so the Son of Man must be lifted up,
Jn 3:15 that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life.
Jn 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Jn 3:17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
Jn 3:18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.

[Marlin1]

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all can we be baptized (immersed) in the words of God ? yes if we let it entered totally in our heart and soul and follow it ,so to become a son of God . Pierre

Pierre, Do you have Scripture for this?

Marlin

[terraricca]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 16 2012,16:01)

Quote all can we be baptized (immersed) in the words of God ? yes if we let it entered totally in our heart and soul and follow it ,so to become a son of God . Pierre Pierre, Do you have Scripture for this? Marlin

Marlin

if you do not believe it thats just fine with me ,

so get baptized it does not take or give nothing ,

if you want you can get circumcised as well ,

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Did you want verses that say Jesus was filled with the Spirit?that the Spirit was from God? that the Father and he were one?etc etc

Surely you can find these things?

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 16 2012,17:29)

Hi T, Did you want verses that say Jesus was filled with the Spirit?that the Spirit was from God? that the Father and he were one?etc etc Surely you can find these things?

Nick

?

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
You offered one verse earlier and I added the one from John,
Now try jn14.11,20; 15.26

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 16 2012,17:45)

Hi T, You offered one verse earlier and I added the one from John, Now try jn14.11,20;  15.26

nick

Jn 14:11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves.
Jn 14:12 I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.

Jn 15:25 But this is to fulfill what is written in their Law: ‘They hated me without reason.’
Jn 15:26 “When the Counselor comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father, he will testify about me.
Jn 15:27 And you also must testify, for you have been with me from the beginning.

AND NO I WAS NOT LOOKING FOR THAT ANSWER YOU CHANGE OUR CONVERSATION ,

here it is ;;please tell me who are the “WE” that Jesus speak of in John 3;11

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Reread the posts pls

[Marlin1]

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Quote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 16 2012,16:01) Quote all can we be baptized (immersed) in the words of God ? yes if we let it entered totally in our heart and soul and follow it ,so to become a son of God . Pierre Pierre, Do you have Scripture for this? Marlin Marlin if you do not believe it thats just fine with me , so get baptized it does not take or give nothing , if you want you can get circumcised as well ,

Pierre,  Don't you see,  You have no scripture for it, because it is a NOT TRUE.  If you want to follow your own way, it is ok by me.  But don't claim it is the Word.

Let every word of man be a lie and the Word of God be TRUE.

God Bless you in your search.
Marlin

[terraricca]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 16 2011,04:26)

Pierre, Are you being freed from sin?  If the answer is no then you do not have the Holy Spirit as councilor or are not taking advantage of its presence.  Jesus stated he would set those who obeyed all his teachings truly free from sin and he does not lie. I tend to think the Holy Spirit possesses those who have it but too many see the word ‘posses” in negative lights.  One who has the Holy Spirit and subjects their will to God’s will, will come to love as God loves. The prophets of old were carried along by the Holy Spirit in its role of distributing talents when the spoke the word of God. There is only one true doctrine of Jesus and it is only through adhering to that doctrine that one can receive the Holy Spirit in its role as councilor.  The Holy Spirit descended on Jesus to show he is approved of God.  If he was the Spirit then why would he descend on himself?

Kerwin

Are you being freed from sin? are you ? is anyone ??

or our we try not to practice sin,??

what you think?

[terraricca]

kerwin

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The prophets of old were carried along by the Holy Spirit in its role of distributing talents when the spoke the word of God.

what do you mean??

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There is only one true doctrine of Jesus and it is only through adhering to that doctrine that one can receive the Holy Spirit in its role as councilor

why do you think that the holy spirit is the councilor and not a action of the holy spirit ??

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
The Spirit of God does not have an independant role in scripture of distributing abilities.
God does all.

[NickHassan]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 16 2012,10:55)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 16 2012,17:45) Hi T, You offered one verse earlier and I added the one from John, Now try jn14.11,20;  15.26 nick Jn 14:11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves. Jn 14:12 I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. Jn 15:25 But this is to fulfill what is written in their Law: ‘They hated me without reason.’ Jn 15:26 “When the Counselor comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father, he will testify about me. Jn 15:27 And you also must testify, for you have been with me from the beginning. AND NO I WAS NOT LOOKING FOR THAT ANSWER YOU CHANGE OUR CONVERSATION , here it is ;;please tell me who are the “WE” that Jesus speak of  in John 3;11

Hi t,
Jn 14.23

[NickHassan]

Hi,
The WE of Jn 14.23 and Jn 3.11 are the Spirit of Christ and the counsellor, the Spirit of Truth from the Father.

THEY are one in the Spirit of God and we can fellowship with THEM in the one Spirit.[2Jn9, 1Jn1]

[terraricca]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 16 2012,16:01)

Quote all can we be baptized (immersed) in the words of God ? yes if we let it entered totally in our heart and soul and follow it ,so to become a son of God . Pierre Pierre, Do you have Scripture for this? Marlin

M1

what you think are there any scriptures in the bible that says that

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