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- January 13, 2013 at 5:25 am#327726WakeupParticipant
WHO IS THIS WOMAN CLOTHED WITH THE SUN,
AND 12 STARS ON HER HEAD REV.12:1.This woman was with child,ready to be born.
she gave birth to a man child.1. Who is this woman?
2. Who is the child born out of this woman, to rule all
nations with a rod of iron.3. The child was born and cought up to God,and to his
throne.Can anybody explain; Who is she.
We seem to be vague regarding the bride of christ.
We need to have a deeper look to undestand the whole thing.It is not as simple as you think.
wakeup.
January 13, 2013 at 10:50 am#327780WakeupParticipantThe silence is deafening.
wakeup.
January 13, 2013 at 6:26 pm#327934terrariccaParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Jan. 13 2013,15:50) The silence is deafening. wakeup.
so you don't know who she hisJanuary 13, 2013 at 6:30 pm#327936seekingtruthParticipantI believe she represents Israel and actually gives us the timing of the Sons birth.
My opinion – Wm
January 13, 2013 at 8:24 pm#327947terrariccaParticipantQuote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 13 2013,23:30) I believe she represents Israel and actually gives us the timing of the Sons birth. My opinion – Wm
sktyes, but witch one the one according to the flesh or the spiritual one ?
January 13, 2013 at 9:20 pm#327951ProclaimerParticipantIsrael.
January 13, 2013 at 10:02 pm#327959Ed JParticipantQuote (t8 @ Jan. 14 2013,07:20) Israel.
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1260 “DAYS”Revelation 12:6 (AKJV): And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place
prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred [and] threescore days.A large consensus agrees that Israel, is the “woman” in the context of this verse. If we then
consider that the end of the 1260 “days” was when Israel came out of “the wilderness”, or
out from being scattered among the nations (people Ezekiel 20:35), returning home and
declaring her independence in 1948, and subtract 1260 years (“each day for a year”), we arrive at 688 AD.A quick Yahoo search reveals that this is widely understood to be
the founding year of the construction of the Islamic mosque, the Dome of the Rock.There is no need to adjust to a 360 day prophetic calendar because John wrote
the book of Revelation under the first century Julian calendar which was virtually
the same as the calendar we use for our modern historical record. We view John's
vision through the things that “thou” (John) “hast seen” “are” and “shall be” – to John.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJanuary 13, 2013 at 11:12 pm#327965seekingtruthParticipantterraricca,
Possibly both, at least I'm wondering if it pointed from His physical birth all the way through the process of creating His body (the Christian era) ending in the rapture of it (Child was caught up to God) and the beginning of God dealing with Israel (tribulation).Speculation only – Wm
January 14, 2013 at 12:22 am#327992WakeupParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 14 2013,08:02) Quote (t8 @ Jan. 14 2013,07:20) Israel.
(Link)
1260 “DAYS”Revelation 12:6 (AKJV): And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place
prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred [and] threescore days.A large consensus agrees that Israel, is the “woman” in the context of this verse. If we then
consider that the end of the 1260 “days” was when Israel came out of “the wilderness”, or
out from being scattered among the nations (people Ezekiel 20:35), returning home and
declaring her independence in 1948, and subtract 1260 years (“each day for a year”), we arrive at 688 AD.A quick Yahoo search reveals that this is widely understood to be
the founding year of the construction of the Islamic mosque, the Dome of the Rock.There is no need to adjust to a 360 day prophetic calendar because John wrote
the book of Revelation under the first century Julian calendar which was virtually
the same as the calendar we use for our modern historical record. We view John's
vision through the things that “thou” (John) “hast seen” “are” and “shall be” – to John.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.Why dont you use your numbers.
wakeup.
January 14, 2013 at 12:40 am#327995Ed JParticipantHi Wakeup,
1948 – 1260 = 688 AD
(The year construction began on the dome of the rock)Islam is the kingdom of the antichrist. (Link)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJanuary 14, 2013 at 12:46 am#327996terrariccaParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 14 2013,03:02) Quote (t8 @ Jan. 14 2013,07:20) Israel.
(Link)
1260 “DAYS”Revelation 12:6 (AKJV): And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place
prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred [and] threescore days.A large consensus agrees that Israel, is the “woman” in the context of this verse. If we then
consider that the end of the 1260 “days” was when Israel came out of “the wilderness”, or
out from being scattered among the nations (people Ezekiel 20:35), returning home and
declaring her independence in 1948, and subtract 1260 years (“each day for a year”), we arrive at 688 AD.A quick Yahoo search reveals that this is widely understood to be
the founding year of the construction of the Islamic mosque, the Dome of the Rock.There is no need to adjust to a 360 day prophetic calendar because John wrote
the book of Revelation under the first century Julian calendar which was virtually
the same as the calendar we use for our modern historical record. We view John's
vision through the things that “thou” (John) “hast seen” “are” and “shall be” – to John.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edj688AD dome of the rock as nothing to do with anything other than the increase of men corruption
January 14, 2013 at 12:49 am#327998terrariccaParticipantbut let go back on topic
Rev 12:1 A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head.
Rev 12:2 She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth.
Rev 12:3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his heads.
Rev 12:4 His tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that he might devour her child the moment it was born.
Rev 12:5 She gave birth to a son, a male child, who will rule all the nations with an iron scepter. And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne.
Rev 12:6 The woman fled into the desert to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.
Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back.
Rev 12:8 But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven.
Rev 12:9 The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.
Rev 12:10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say:
“Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God,
and the authority of his Christ.
For the accuser of our brothers,
who accuses them before our God day and night,
has been hurled down.
Rev 12:11 They overcame him
by the blood of the Lamb
and by the word of their testimony;
they did not love their lives so much
as to shrink from death.
Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, you heavens
and you who dwell in them!
But woe to the earth and the sea,
because the devil has gone down to you!
He is filled with fury,
because he knows that his time is short.”
Rev 12:13 When the dragon saw that he had been hurled to the earth, he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child.
Rev 12:14 The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the desert, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent’s reach.
Rev 12:15 Then from his mouth the serpent spewed water like a river, to overtake the woman and sweep her away with the torrent.
Rev 12:16 But the earth helped the woman by opening its mouth and swallowing the river that the dragon had spewed out of his mouth.
Rev 12:17 Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to make war against the rest of her offspring—those who obey God’s commandments and hold to the testimony of Jesus.
Rev 13:1 And the dragon stood on the shore of the sea.January 14, 2013 at 1:02 am#328001Ed JParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Jan. 14 2013,10:46) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 14 2013,03:02) Quote (t8 @ Jan. 14 2013,07:20) Israel.
(Link)
1260 “DAYS”Revelation 12:6 (AKJV): And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place
prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred [and] threescore days.A large consensus agrees that Israel, is the “woman” in the context of this verse. If we then
consider that the end of the 1260 “days” was when Israel came out of “the wilderness”, or
out from being scattered among the nations (people Ezekiel 20:35), returning home and
declaring her independence in 1948, and subtract 1260 years (“each day for a year”), we arrive at 688 AD.A quick Yahoo search reveals that this is widely understood to be
the founding year of the construction of the Islamic mosque, the Dome of the Rock.There is no need to adjust to a 360 day prophetic calendar because John wrote
the book of Revelation under the first century Julian calendar which was virtually
the same as the calendar we use for our modern historical record. We view John's
vision through the things that “thou” (John) “hast seen” “are” and “shall be” – to John.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edj688AD dome of the rock as nothing to do with anything other than the increase of men corruption
Hi Pierre,“But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing (on the temple mount)
where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:” (Mark 13:14)
Mountains in biblical phraseology means nations. Israel is told to flee to the nations form the coming persecution.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJanuary 14, 2013 at 1:03 am#3280022beseeParticipantI would say the woman is the church.
January 14, 2013 at 1:46 am#328015WakeupParticipantJust think about it;
Is the church BEFORE Jesus birth? NO.
Was Jesus born out of HIS church ON EARTH? NO.
I say the church on earth is Jesus TEACHINGS.(not any church).THe church is Gods religion.His doctrine.The city where all righteousness dwell.
Jesus was born out of Gods church,which is Gods woman.
He was send to earth to build his own church,which is also Gods.For all belongs to God.When he has finished building his church on earth,
He will hand it to God,and God will take over his church.
And then God will be all in all.The 1000yr reign will be Jesus rebuilding his church,that has been ruined in the hands of men.
The answer to the woman with the 12 stars is,
Gods woman.(and there appeared a great wonder *IN HEAVEN*).Not on earth.Jesus was born out of this woman.The city of God where all righteousness dwell.We the true followers,are the population(children) of that city.
I told you,its not that simple.wakeup.
January 14, 2013 at 1:55 am#328016terrariccaParticipantQuote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 14 2013,04:12) terraricca,
Possibly both, at least I'm wondering if it pointed from His physical birth all the way through the process of creating His body (the Christian era) ending in the rapture of it (Child was caught up to God) and the beginning of God dealing with Israel (tribulation).Speculation only – Wm
sktRev 12:1 A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head.
1)so the woman, is to me a combination of Gods servant in heaven and on earth ,the 12 stars are the twelve patriarch of Israel ,the sun being the fulfillment of the truth of God, the moon represent the earth faithful people ,
2)Rev 12:2 She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth.
Rev 12:3 Then another sign appeared in heaven:
she was to give birth to the son of God Jesus Christ3)an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his heads.
Rev 12:4 His tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that he might devour her child the moment it was born.this we all know is Satan and his org in heaven; and his power in the world of men
this also included Bethlehem murders of the children,
4) Rev 12:5 She gave birth to a son, a male child, who will rule all the nations with an iron scepter. And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne.
Isa 9:6 For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace
there will be no end.5)Rev 12:6 The woman fled into the desert to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.
this I believe are the days that Mary and Joseph spend in Egypt ,by running away from Herod ,
6)Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back.
Rev 12:8 But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven.
Rev 12:9 The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.this fight bring us to the of the return of the Lord just after the 1000 year reign ;My reason to think this is based on ;Rev 20:7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison
Rev 20:8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore.
Rev 20:9 They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them.
Rev 20:10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.THE TIME THAT SATAN AS LEFT TO TEST ALL THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN RESURRECTED IN THE SECOND RESURRECTION
7)Rev 12:14 The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the desert, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent’s reach.
Rev 12:15 Then from his mouth the serpent spewed water like a river, to overtake the woman and sweep her away with the torrent.this could also be the 3.5 years of Christ ministry ,this is not clear yet to me
8)Rev 12:16 But the earth helped the woman by opening its mouth and swallowing the river that the dragon had spewed out of his mouth.
the earth means people ,that support the gospel9)Rev 12:17 Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to make war against the rest of her offspring—those who obey God’s commandments and hold to the testimony of Jesus.
Rev 13:1 And the dragon stood on the shore of the sea.this sounds like ;1PE 5:8 Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.
this is an interesting subject please show scriptures with you view ;
January 14, 2013 at 1:57 am#328019terrariccaParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 14 2013,06:02) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 14 2013,10:46) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 14 2013,03:02) Quote (t8 @ Jan. 14 2013,07:20) Israel.
(Link)
1260 “DAYS”Revelation 12:6 (AKJV): And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place
prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred [and] threescore days.A large consensus agrees that Israel, is the “woman” in the context of this verse. If we then
consider that the end of the 1260 “days” was when Israel came out of “the wilderness”, or
out from being scattered among the nations (people Ezekiel 20:35), returning home and
declaring her independence in 1948, and subtract 1260 years (“each day for a year”), we arrive at 688 AD.A quick Yahoo search reveals that this is widely understood to be
the founding year of the construction of the Islamic mosque, the Dome of the Rock.There is no need to adjust to a 360 day prophetic calendar because John wrote
the book of Revelation under the first century Julian calendar which was virtually
the same as the calendar we use for our modern historical record. We view John's
vision through the things that “thou” (John) “hast seen” “are” and “shall be” – to John.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edj688AD dome of the rock as nothing to do with anything other than the increase of men corruption
Hi Pierre,“But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing (on the temple mount)
where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:” (Mark 13:14)
Mountains in biblical phraseology means nations. Israel is told to flee to the nations form the coming persecution.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjcould you take this conversation in a other topic ,thanks
January 14, 2013 at 2:26 am#328024Ed JParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Jan. 14 2013,11:46) Just think about it; Is the church BEFORE Jesus birth? NO.
Was Jesus born out of HIS church ON EARTH? NO.
I say the church on earth is Jesus TEACHINGS.(not any church).THe church is Gods religion.His doctrine.The city where all righteousness dwell.
Jesus was born out of Gods church,which is Gods woman.
He was send to earth to build his own church,which is also Gods.For all belongs to God.When he has finished building his church on earth,
He will hand it to God,and God will take over his church.
And then God will be all in all.The 1000yr reign will be Jesus rebuilding his church,that has been ruined in the hands of men.
The answer to the woman with the 12 stars is,
Gods woman.(and there appeared a great wonder *IN HEAVEN*).Not on earth.Jesus was born out of this woman.The city of God where all righteousness dwell.We the true followers,are the population(children) of that city.
I told you,its not that simple.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Are you suggesting: “THAT MAN” in Psalms 87:5 refers to Jesus? (<– please answer)
“And of Zion it shall be said,
This(?) and that man(Jesus) was born in her:
and the highest himself shall establish her.” (Psalms 87:5)Certainly Jesus is one of these two anointed ones, right?:
“These [this(?) and that man(Jesus)] are the two anointed ones,
that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.” (Zech 4:14)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJanuary 14, 2013 at 3:16 am#328040WakeupParticipantLets just stay with this woman,
before we get it all all mixed up.wakeup.
January 14, 2013 at 3:29 am#328045Ed JParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Jan. 14 2013,13:16) Lets just stay with this woman,
before we get it all all mixed up.wakeup.
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