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katjo
you should take edj advise you believe the same things,wen your are ready try to answer me again,with the help of your friends,just make it simple and clear ,try to use Christ teachings as much as possible,look as well for the things i stand forth so it will help you in bettering your explanation to me
thank you
I dont need help from friends I know what my bible tells me? ever been to bible study?
katjoHonestly, Dont sound like you have a very Christ like attitude toward other peoples feelings.
katjo
katjo
in which way did i hurt your feelings???
it was not my intention,i just answer the question did i??I didnt say my feelings, you come off to alot of people with a very snappy attitude. Especially trinitatrians.
katjo
very much so!
katjo
Quote (katjo @ Jan. 22 2010,11:47) Terraricca, I didnt say my feelings, you come off to alot of people with a very snappy attitude. Especially trinitatrians.
katjo
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 21 2010,16:20) Terraricca, Is that all you know how to do, IS TO ACCUSE AND CONDEMN?
WJ
Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 22 2010,03:24) Hi Terraricca, WJ and Katjo are both right, that is why I imported his response to you.
Matt.18:16 But if he (Terraricca) will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more,
that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
The “Bible Truth” in these two Bible verses are directly for you; Terraricca!Psalm 18:25-27 With the merciful thou(YHVH) wilt show thyself merciful;
with an upright man thou wilt show thyself upright; With the pure
thou wilt show thyself pure; and with the froward(Guess Who?) thou wilt show thyself froward.
For thou wilt save the afflicted people; but wilt bring down high looks.
Check out this thread Terraricca…
https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….96;st=0Ed J
Hi Katjo,
satan's big deception is to try to 'make' others see God as we do!
But here are Jesus words, and I know you live by these words, Katjo.John 13:34-35 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you,
that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.Glad to see your back. You add a lot to the many discussions.
God bless you Katjo!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycityiblecode.orgthank you, I try very hard not to be bitter but sometimes it gets very hard!
God Bless, katjo
This might explain somethings better (bluelettetbible.org)Before we can answer any questions about the Holy Spirit, we must establish a basic understanding of who He is and what He does. The name “Holy Spirit” comes from two Greek words—hagion, meaning “holy,” and pneuma, meaning “spirit.”
The Holy Spirit is known by various names, including the “Spirit of God, the “Spirit of Jesus,” the “Spirit of Christ,” and the “Spirit of truth.” Jesus referred to Him as “another Comforter,” and the “Helper.”
The Eternal God
The Bible makes it clear that the Holy Spirit is God. We can determine that the Holy Spirit is God in the following ways:
1. He is called God.
2. He is treated on an equal basis with God the Father and God the Son.
3. He has the characteristics of God.
4. He does the work of God.Called God By Name
The primary reason we believe the Holy Spirit to be God is because the Scripture clearly affirms this. In the second verse of the Bible He is called the Spirit of God:
The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters (Genesis 1:2).
The Bible designates the Holy Spirit as the Spirit of the Lord God: “The Spirit of the Lord God is upon Me” (Isaiah 61:1).
God Of The Old TestamentA close check of Scripture will show that the Holy Spirit is the God of the Old Testament. For example, Isaiah heard the voice of the Lord:
Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying: “Whom shall I send, and who will go for Us?” Then I said, “Here am I! Send me” (Isaiah 6:8).
The New Testament identifies the voice that spoke to Isaiah as the voice of the Holy Spirit:
So when they did not agree among themselves, they departed after Paul had said one word: “The Holy Spirit spoke rightly through Isaiah the prophet to our fathers” (Acts 28:25).
In the New Testament we find the following account:
But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession. And he kept back part of the proceeds, his wife also being aware of it, and brought a certain part and laid it at the apostles' feet. But Peter said, 'Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit, and to keep back part of the price of the land for yourself? . . . You have not lied to men but to God' (Acts 5:1-4).
The Apostle Peter made it clear that Ananias did not lie to man, but to God. The person He lied to is the Holy Spirit. The conclusion is obvious: the Holy Spirit is God.Equal To The Father And The Son
The Holy Spirit is not only called God; He is also associated on an equal basis with the two other members of the Godhead, the Father and the Son. Jesus said:
Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit (Matthew 28:19).
The Apostle Paul wrote:
The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you all (2 Corinthians 13:14).
Therefore, the Holy Spirit is linked by association to the other members of the Godhead. This provides further testimony that they are of the same nature, for neither man nor angel is ever associated on the same level with God.Attributes Of The Holy Spirit
Some biblical attributes of the Holy Spirit belong to God alone:
1. The Spirit Of God Is Everywhere Present
Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence? (Psalm 139:7).
2. He Is All-Knowing
But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God. For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God (1 Corinthians 2:10,11).Who has directed the Spirit of the Lord, or as His counselor taught Him? (Isaiah 40:13).
3. He Is Called The Eternal Spirit
How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot to God (Hebrews 9:14).
These attributes which the Bible ascribes to the Holy Spirit (all-knowing, everywhere present, and eternal), belong to God and to God alone.4. Performs The Work Of God
The Holy Spirit performs certain works that only God can perform. For instance, the Bible teaches that He was involved in the creation of the universe:
The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters (Genesis 1:2).
The Holy Spirit was also involved in the creation of life.
The Spirit of God has made me, and the breath of the Almighty give me life (Job 33:4).
5. Inspired The Bible
The Holy Spirit is the ultimate source behind the books of the Bible.Knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit (2 Peter 1:20,21).
Since all Scripture is God-breathed (2 Timothy 3:16), the Holy Spirit, the source of biblical truth, is God.Life Of Christ
The Holy Spirit is the divine agent that brought Jesus, God the Son, into the world.
And the angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God” (Luke 1:35).
The Bible says that it was the Holy Spirit who guided Jesus during His earthly life and was instrumental in His resurrection.
Then Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit to Galilee, and news of Him went out through all the surrounding region (Luke 4:14).And declared to be the Son of God with power according to the Spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead (Romans 1:4).
All of these works are works of God, for no being less than God can perform them.Titles Of His Deity
The Holy Spirit is designated by a number of titles that set forth His deity. They include:
1. The Spirit (John 3:6-8)
2. The Holy Spirit (Luke 11:13)
3. The Spirit of God (1 Corinthians 3:16)
4. The Spirit of the Lord (Isaiah 63:14)
5. The Spirit of the Lord God (Isaiah 61:1)
6. The Spirit of the Living God (2 Corinthians 3:3)
7. The Spirit of the Father (Matthew 10:20)
8. The Spirit of Jesus (Acts 16:6,7)
9. The Holy Spirit of God (Ephesians 4:30)
10. The Spirit of Christ (Romans 8:9)
11. The Spirit of Jesus Christ (Philippians 1:19)
12. The Spirit of His Son (Galatians 4:6)
13. The Spirit which is of God (1 Corinthians 2:12).These titles set forth the fact that the Holy Spirit is God. They also show, however, that He is a distinct Person from God the Father and God the Son.
Third Person Of Trinity
The Holy Spirit is the Third Person of the Trinity. The doctrine of the Trinity, simply stated, is as follows: The Bible teaches that there is one eternal God who is the Creator and Sustainer of the universe. He is the only God that exists. Within the nature of this one God are three eternal persons, The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. These three persons are the one God. The Trinity doctrine is based on what the Scripture says concerning the nature of God. As we have seen, the Holy Spirit is called God though He is a distinct person from God the Father and God the Son.
katjo
K
the Holy spirit is not God ,
the trinity is not biblical ,and to justify it you have to go to interpretation of the words in the verses of the sited scripture.to be honest the way you feel about that trinity is your concern ,if you want to teach me the trinity please do not , for i was born catholic raised for priesthood my godmother was my haunt she was a none for 45 years ,i left the church wen they start telling me ridiculous things like Mary was God mother
then turn around and tell me God is so big he created everything and no men can see him and live,
i was about 12 years old.if you need help fine i can help you to get out of that pagan believe.
otherwise lets leave it at that.Quote (katjo @ Jan. 22 2010,23:32) This might explain somethings better (bluelettetbible.org)Before we can answer any questions about the Holy Spirit, we must establish a basic understanding of who He is and what He does. The name “Holy Spirit” comes from two Greek words—hagion, meaning “holy,” and pneuma, meaning “spirit.” The Holy Spirit is known by various names, including the “Spirit of God, the “Spirit of Jesus,” the “Spirit of Christ,” and the “Spirit of truth.” Jesus referred to Him as “another Comforter,” and the “Helper.”
The Eternal God
The Bible makes it clear that the Holy Spirit is God. We can determine that the Holy Spirit is God in the following ways:
1. He is called God.
2. He is treated on an equal basis with God the Father and God the Son.
3. He has the characteristics of God.
4. He does the work of God.Called God By Name
The primary reason we believe the Holy Spirit to be God is because the Scripture clearly affirms this. In the second verse of the Bible He is called the Spirit of God:
The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters (Genesis 1:2).
The Bible designates the Holy Spirit as the Spirit of the Lord God: “The Spirit of the Lord God is upon Me” (Isaiah 61:1).
God Of The Old TestamentA close check of Scripture will show that the Holy Spirit is the God of the Old Testament. For example, Isaiah heard the voice of the Lord:
Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying: “Whom shall I send, and who will go for Us?” Then I said, “Here am I! Send me” (Isaiah 6:8).
The New Testament identifies the voice that spoke to Isaiah as the voice of the Holy Spirit:
So when they did not agree among themselves, they departed after Paul had said one word: “The Holy Spirit spoke rightly through Isaiah the prophet to our fathers” (Acts 28:25).
In the New Testament we find the following account:
But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession. And he kept back part of the proceeds, his wife also being aware of it, and brought a certain part and laid it at the apostles' feet. But Peter said, 'Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit, and to keep back part of the price of the land for yourself? . . . You have not lied to men but to God' (Acts 5:1-4).
The Apostle Peter made it clear that Ananias did not lie to man, but to God. The person He lied to is the Holy Spirit. The conclusion is obvious: the Holy Spirit is God.Equal To The Father And The Son
The Holy Spirit is not only called God; He is also associated on an equal basis with the two other members of the Godhead, the Father and the Son. Jesus said:
Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit (Matthew 28:19).
The Apostle Paul wrote:
The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you all (2 Corinthians 13:14).
Therefore, the Holy Spirit is linked by association to the other members of the Godhead. This provides further testimony that they are of the same nature, for neither man nor angel is ever associated on the same level with God.Attributes Of The Holy Spirit
Some biblical attributes of the Holy Spirit belong to God alone:
1. The Spirit Of God Is Everywhere Present
Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence? (Psalm 139:7).
2. He Is All-Knowing
But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God. For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God (1 Corinthians 2:10,11).Who has directed the Spirit of the Lord, or as His counselor taught Him? (Isaiah 40:13).
3. He Is Called The Eternal Spirit
How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot to God (Hebrews 9:14).
These attributes which the Bible ascribes to the Holy Spirit (all-knowing, everywhere present, and eternal), belong to God and to God alone.4. Performs The Work Of God
The Holy Spirit performs certain works that only God can perform. For instance, the Bible teaches that He was involved in the creation of the universe:
The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters (Genesis 1:2).
The Holy Spirit was also involved in the creation of life.
The Spirit of God has made me, and the breath of the Almighty give me life (Job 33:4).
5. Inspired The Bible
The Holy Spirit is the ultimate source behind the books of the Bible.Knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit (2 Peter 1:20,21).
Since all Scripture is God-breathed (2 Timothy 3:16), the Holy Spirit, the source of biblical truth, is God.Life Of Christ
The Holy Spirit is the divine agent that brought Jesus, God the Son, into the world.
And the angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God” (Luke 1:35).
The Bible says that it was the Holy Spirit who guided Jesus during His earthly life and was instrumental in His resurrection.
Then Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit to Galilee, and news of Him went out through all the surrounding region (Luke 4:14).And declared to be the Son of God with power according to the Spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead (Romans 1:4).
All of these works are works of God, for no being less than God can perform them.Titles Of His Deity
The Holy Spirit is designated by a number of titles that set forth His deity. They include:
1. The Spirit (John 3:6-8)
2. The Holy Spirit (Luke 11:13)
3. The Spirit of God (1 Corinthians 3:16)
4. The Spirit of the Lord (Isaiah 63:14)
5. The Spirit of the Lord God (Isaiah 61:1)
6. The Spirit of the Living God (2 Corinthians 3:3)
7. The Spirit of the Father (Matthew 10:20)
8. The Spirit of Jesus (Acts 16:6,7)
9. The Holy Spirit of God (Ephesians 4:30)
10. The Spirit of Christ (Romans 8:9)
11. The Spirit of Jesus Christ (Philippians 1:19)
12. The Spirit of His Son (Galatians 4:6)
13. The Spirit which is of God (1 Corinthians 2:12).These titles set forth the fact that the Holy Spirit is God. They also show, however, that He is a distinct Person from God the Father and God the Son.
Third Person Of Trinity
The Holy Spirit is the Third Person of the Trinity. The doctrine of the Trinity, simply stated, is as follows: The Bible teaches that there is one eternal God who is the Creator and Sustainer of the universe. He is the only God that exists. Within the nature of this one God are three eternal persons, The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. These three persons are the one God. The Trinity doctrine is based on what the Scripture says concerning the nature of God. As we have seen, the Holy Spirit is called God though He is a distinct person from God the Father and God the Son.
katjo
Hi KatjoGood post!
WJ
katjo,
Do you have a Spirit?
Is that Spirit personal to you?
What is your name?Does the Son of God have a Spirit?
Is that Spirit personal to him?
What is the name of the Son of God?Does God the Father have a Spirit?
Is that Spirit personal to him?
What is the name of God the Father?Does the Holy Spirit have a Spirit?
Why is it called the 'Holy' Spirit?
What is it's name? (p.s. 'Holy Spirit', 'Spirit of…' etc, are a titles – not a names)Does God the Trinity have a Spirit?
Is that Spirit personal to …It?
What is it's name (p.s. '…Spirit…' are titles – not names)katjo
This might explain somethings better (bluelettetbible.org)Before we can answer any questions about the Holy Spirit, we must establish a basic understanding of who He is and what He does. The name “Holy Spirit” comes from two Greek words—hagion, meaning “holy,” and pneuma, meaning “spirit.”this is not Christ speaking ;the truth is open not closed,
before it start they have to establish their rules of views,
you must think some of us are children in the experience of the Lord book,
you never answer the real questions on an open book with one rule the truth of the word of God.
so until you do you are in the dark.
NO sorry Im not in the dark you are!I have no ideal what you are talking about,what have i not answered? I have answered you, your the one not wanting to answer questions.
katjo
I dont think im the one that needs any help.you have not asked me anything! Im not answering foolishness like His. He shows no respect at all. You can really tell by post who has the holy spirit and who doesnt. I hope you find the light someday.
katjo
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