Who is the bride of Christ.

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  • #325417
    terraricca
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    Quote (Devolution @ Dec. 26 2012,13:09)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 26 2012,17:46)

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    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 26 2012,16:35)
    devo

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    Terra,

    New Jerusalem comes down AFTER the millennium, I wasn't speaking about that, I was speaking about the FIRST DOMINION.

    Because you have Amillennialist beliefs, you can not discern the difference between the TWO dominions (kingdoms) thus everything we say makes no sense to you.

    This is the problem.

    you would call any one anything because they prove to you that your views are wrong ,and not scriptural ,stop calling others by things or believes they do not even heard about, or never say that they believe the lies you putting forward ,

    God knows who are his


    Terra,

    YOU SAID YOURSELF YOU AGREED WITH AMILLENNIALISTS!!

    YOU believe the kingdom has ALREADY been set up….

    THAT'S PART OF AMILLENNIALISM DOCTRINE!!

    So stop playing games & accusing me of lying.

    And one more thing…

    SINCE you believe the kingdom is already set up, then HOW on earth could you discern between the TWO COMING DOMINIONS (Kingdoms)!!
    You CAN'T.

    So you see, I was speaking the truth…I was not lying.

    And as I said, it is because of THAT, because of THAT belief, that everything we say is wrong to you…and everything you say is wrong to us.

    How on earth did this rile you up?
    It's not an insult, its the TRUTH of the matter.

    Thank you.


    devo

    were in my quotes do I say or believe in anything you say ,that I do ,

    show me ,I have quoted all the scriptures that walks along my believes ,

    so again show me if not I will stand for what I have called you


    Terra,

    We have debated the kingdom subject remember?
    Remember?
    Pages and pages of it.

    You believe the kingdom is already set up, you made that crystal clear, and said that Christ was ruling in that kingdom already…Amillennialists believe that too.

    I'm at a loss trying to understand why you are now saying you didn't say these things!!

    If you've changed your mind then good on you, we aren't the types to rub it in, we'd never say ” told you so”, instead we'd congratulate you.
    But if you haven't changed your mind, then you got a serious memory problem OR we just can't understand each other.

    Nevertheless, cheers.


    devo

    why you do not post that poste where I say what you claim I say ???

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    Terra,

    New Jerusalem comes down AFTER the millennium, I wasn't speaking about that, I was speaking about the FIRST DOMINION.

    I have given you all the scriptures to support my claim either you come up with an scripture that say other wise or fight it out with Gods word ,not me ,

    and I say it again you have no understanding Gods written word ,because you have to much of your own opinions in front of it ,

    and what does it mean “SETUP” TO YOU ???

    one more thing how many kingdom does Christ received from his father ??? one or two or ???

    I ONLY KNOW OF “ONE”

    #325426
    Wakeup
    Participant

    BACK TO KINDY.

    #325457
    terraricca
    Participant

    1PE 2:15 For such is the will of God that by doing right you may silence the ignorance of foolish men

    #325461
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2012,03:26)
    1PE 2:15 For such is the will of God that by doing right you may silence the ignorance of foolish men


    Terra.

    Are we going to be born again once or twice?

    wakeup.

    #325469
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2012,23:15)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2012,03:26)
    1PE 2:15 For such is the will of God that by doing right you may silence the ignorance of foolish men


    Terra.

    Are we going to be born again once or twice?

    wakeup.


    Heb 10:36 You need to persevere so that when you have done the will of God, you will receive what he has promised.

    #325937
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2012,06:11)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2012,23:15)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2012,03:26)
    1PE 2:15 For such is the will of God that by doing right you may silence the ignorance of foolish men


    Terra.

    Are we going to be born again once or twice?

    wakeup.


    Heb 10:36 You need to persevere so that when you have done the will of God, you will receive what he has promised.


    Terra.

    Still wont answer the question huh.

    wakeup.

    #325938
    terraricca
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    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2012,04:05)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2012,06:11)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2012,23:15)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2012,03:26)
    1PE 2:15 For such is the will of God that by doing right you may silence the ignorance of foolish men


    Terra.

    Are we going to be born again once or twice?

    wakeup.


    Heb 10:36 You need to persevere so that when you have done the will of God, you will receive what he has promised.


    Terra.

    Still wont answer the question huh.

    wakeup.


    3 times I am telling you ,you can only be born in the spirit no more than once,

    but it is not through the resurrection ,can you not understand scriptures ???

    #325940
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Terra.

    So you can be born in the spirit more than once.
    How many times?

    Jesus said born and then born again;this means born twice.

    You are contradicting the Lord.

    wakeup.

    #325949
    terraricca
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    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2012,04:17)
    Terra.

    So you can be born in the spirit more than once.
    How many times?

    Jesus said born and then born again;this means born twice.

    You are contradicting the Lord.

    wakeup.


    sorry ,it should read NO MORE THAN ONCE

    I have correct it ,

    so yes no more than once and the start of your rebirth is wen you answer the call to the gospel this would be you babe stage then you have to grow to maturity to receive the promise,

    #325950
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2012,04:17)
    Terra.

    So you can be born in the spirit more than once.
    How many times?

    Jesus said born and then born again;this means born twice.

    You are contradicting the Lord.

    wakeup.


    you become a non sense ,and you try to mock me ,you have no love in you just ego and a big one

    #325952
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2012,10:13)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2012,04:17)
    Terra.

    So you can be born in the spirit more than once.
    How many times?

    Jesus said born and then born again;this means born twice.

    You are contradicting the Lord.

    wakeup.


    you become a non sense ,and you try to mock me ,you have no love in you just ego and a big one


    Terra.

    Do you consider the resurrection not born again?

    wakeup.

    #325975
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2012,05:18)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2012,10:13)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2012,04:17)
    Terra.

    So you can be born in the spirit more than once.
    How many times?

    Jesus said born and then born again;this means born twice.

    You are contradicting the Lord.

    wakeup.


    you become a non sense ,and you try to mock me ,you have no love in you just ego and a big one


    Terra.

    Do you consider the resurrection not born again?

    wakeup.


    I am confused now what is the resurrection ???

    what is being born again ???

    born of what ???

    resurrected of what ???

    and what is an resurrection ???

    #325990
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2012,11:29)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2012,05:18)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2012,10:13)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2012,04:17)
    Terra.

    So you can be born in the spirit more than once.
    How many times?

    Jesus said born and then born again;this means born twice.

    You are contradicting the Lord.

    wakeup.


    you become a non sense ,and you try to mock me ,you have no love in you just ego and a big one


    Terra.

    Do you consider the resurrection not born again?

    wakeup.


    I am confused now what is the resurrection ???

    what is being born again ???

    born of what ???

    resurrected of what ???

    and what is an resurrection ???


    Terra.

    You dont know what the resurrection is; are you playing games?

    wakeup.

    #326044
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2012,09:03)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2012,11:29)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2012,05:18)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2012,10:13)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2012,04:17)
    Terra.

    So you can be born in the spirit more than once.
    How many times?

    Jesus said born and then born again;this means born twice.

    You are contradicting the Lord.

    wakeup.


    you become a non sense ,and you try to mock me ,you have no love in you just ego and a big one


    Terra.

    Do you consider the resurrection not born again?

    wakeup.


    I am confused now what is the resurrection ???

    what is being born again ???

    born of what ???

    resurrected of what ???

    and what is an resurrection ???


    Terra.

    You dont know what the resurrection is; are you playing games?

    wakeup.


    if you can not read what I say why do I have to keep repeat it ???

    #326048
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2012,07:28)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2012,09:03)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2012,11:29)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2012,05:18)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2012,10:13)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2012,04:17)
    Terra.

    So you can be born in the spirit more than once.
    How many times?

    Jesus said born and then born again;this means born twice.

    You are contradicting the Lord.

    wakeup.


    you become a non sense ,and you try to mock me ,you have no love in you just ego and a big one


    Terra.

    Do you consider the resurrection not born again?

    wakeup.


    I am confused now what is the resurrection ???

    what is being born again ???

    born of what ???

    resurrected of what ???

    and what is an resurrection ???


    Terra.

    You dont know what the resurrection is; are you playing games?

    wakeup.


    if you can not read what I say why do I have to keep repeat it ???


    Terra.

    Since you seem serious.
    Every person is born of the flesh,born of water,from the mothers belly.(watery sack where the baby grew in).

    Born one more time(born again) is when WE ARE RESURRECTED;
    MOTHER ZION has given birth to HER SPIRIT CHILDREN.
    CHILDREN LIKE THE ANGELS.NOT FLESH.

    wakeup.

    #326059
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 28 2012,02:47)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2012,07:28)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2012,09:03)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2012,11:29)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2012,05:18)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2012,10:13)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2012,04:17)
    Terra.

    So you can be born in the spirit more than once.
    How many times?

    Jesus said born and then born again;this means born twice.

    You are contradicting the Lord.

    wakeup.


    you become a non sense ,and you try to mock me ,you have no love in you just ego and a big one


    Terra.

    Do you consider the resurrection not born again?

    wakeup.


    I am confused now what is the resurrection ???

    what is being born again ???

    born of what ???

    resurrected of what ???

    and what is an resurrection ???


    Terra.

    You dont know what the resurrection is; are you playing games?

    wakeup.


    if you can not read what I say why do I have to keep repeat it ???


    Terra.

    Since you seem serious.
    Every person is born of the flesh,born of water,from the mothers belly.(watery sack where the baby grew in).

    Born one more time(born again) is when WE ARE RESURRECTED;
    MOTHER ZION has given birth to HER SPIRIT CHILDREN.
    CHILDREN LIKE THE ANGELS.NOT FLESH.

    wakeup.


    I will say it only for you ;

    first understand this ;we are dead in the eyes of God sins Adam,and yes we born of the flesh of Adam ,

    but now Christ the son of God came down from heaven and took the cover of the flesh so that he could pay the prize for our sins and for Adam sin ,

    so now what is it that Christ said ,about how to benefit from the promise ?? the promise being EVERLASTING LIVE UNDER GODS AND CHRIST KINGDOM,EITHER IN HEAVEN OR ON EARTH,

    but what we have to do to be save or benefit of the sacrifice of Christ ;one way Christ just allegorically refers to it as to be REBORN ,BUT SINS WE ARE ALREADY BORN OF THE FLESH ,it would be not in that way ,so what it means

    Jn 3:11 I tell you the truth, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony.

    Jn 3:5 Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit.
    Jn 3:6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit.
    Jn 3:7 You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You must be born again.’

    in the conversation we can understand that Christ talks about knowledge that they were preaching but that the Pharisees did not accepted ,

    so the water in his allegory is not the way we are born but represent KNOWLEDGE the knowledge of the kingdom because the king of that kingdom is now among them ,and to access the knowledge ,because the worship too is different than it was under the law as they (Jewish people) have known until then,

     Jn 4:21 Jesus declared, “Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.
    Jn 4:22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.
    Jn 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
    Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”

    but this in no way change anything in the law that God give to Moses (tablets)because Christ reinstate those laws under two ; and so those two laws becomes the foundation to be reborn as of the spirit according to GODS WILL,

    I hope you understand , :)

    #326068
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Terra.

    Do you really consider yourself SPIRIT?
    Can you walk through walls?
    If you cant, then you are not spirit. You are flesh.

    Jesus said YOU ARE SPIRIT.

    BUT YOU TERRA ARE NOT SPIRIT.

    wakeup.

    #326077
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 28 2012,06:19)
    Terra.

    Do you really consider yourself SPIRIT?
    Can you walk through walls?
    If you cant, then you are not spirit. You are flesh.

    Jesus said YOU ARE SPIRIT.

    BUT YOU TERRA ARE NOT SPIRIT.

    wakeup.


    you do not understand what Christ is saying to the Samaritan women ,by saying that SHE AS TO WORSHIP GOD IN SPIRIT NEVER MIND GOING TO JERUSALEM ,what do you think she understood by that ???

    what do you understand by those words ???

    as for me those words mean ;that now Gods wants us to be true within our self being ,in our heart , in our will ,in our actions, even be truthful in all we think and do ,this our new spirit that God now requires from us ,but he supplied the guide,the help,and the faith ,that by doing so we will receive the promise ;what is everlasting life;

    in one way we have to change OUR SPIRIT MIND AND HEART,

    and NO I am not a spirit

    #326083
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Terra.

    To worship God in spirit does not mean that we are spirit.
    We will be spirit after mother Zion give birth to us,in the resurrection.

    Jesus is the first born of the dead.First resurrected.

    wakeup.

    #326085
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 28 2012,06:19)
    Terra.

    Do you really consider yourself SPIRIT?
    Can you walk through walls?
    If you cant, then you are not spirit. You are flesh.

    Jesus said YOU ARE SPIRIT.

    BUT YOU TERRA ARE NOT SPIRIT.

    wakeup.


    JN 6:63 “ It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and are life.

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    Jesus said YOU ARE SPIRIT

    if this is the scripture you refer to ,then you are deceiving your self or try to deceive me ,and then I will stop this conversation ,because your spirit of truth is not available yet

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