who is LUCIFER?

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  • #291267
    NickHassan
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    Hi ED,
    Universal salvation is a complete myth.
    Saying all will be saved mocks God and his plan shown in Jesus.
    Men do not pre-exist as angels except in the minds of those who do not rely of scripture.

    Death is the inheritance for all the sinful sons of Adam
    There is the way of salvation in Jesus Christ.
    Seek ye first the kingdom [mt5]

    #291307
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 10 2012,14:27)
    Hi ED,
    (1) Universal salvation is a complete myth.
    (2) Saying all will be saved mocks God and his plan shown in Jesus.
    (3) Men do not pre-exist as angels except in the minds of those who do not rely of scripture.

    (4) Death is the inheritance for all the sinful sons of Adam
    (5) There is the way of salvation in Jesus Christ.
    (6) Seek ye first the kingdom [mt5]


    Hi Nick,

    1) OK
    2) Huh
    3) Spin

    4) Righto
    5) Faith in Jesus blood
    6) …and all these things shall be added unto you.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #291317
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    Tell us how faith in the blood of Jesus saves anyone?
    Faith obeys

    #291318
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2012,09:42)
    Hi Everybody,

    Isa.14:19-20 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch,
    and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword,
    that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.
    20: Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed
    thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.

          These three points of focus “DO” establish the matter:

                       1. cast out of thy grave
                       2. like an abominable branch
                       3. thrust through with a sword

    “At the mouth of three witnesses,
      shall the matter be established.” (Deut 19:15)

    יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

    Father, I pray that you bring enlightenment to all who read this post, in YÄ-shü-ă's precious name I pray, Amen!


    LOL

    so you still cant read any verse that says lucifer is satan LOL

    now you are using again deut

    let me post the complete verse/
    deut 19.15
    15Before you are convicted of a crime, at least two witnesses must be able to testify that you did it.

    the verse refers to the crime committed …

    LOL

    this is so far from your own opinion. poor edj.

    #291520
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (jammin @ April 10 2012,17:19)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2012,09:42)
    Hi Everybody,

    Isa.14:19-20 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch,
    and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword,
    that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.
    20: Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed
    thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.

          These three points of focus “DO” establish the matter:

                       1. cast out of thy grave
                       2. like an abominable branch
                       3. thrust through with a sword

    “At the mouth of three witnesses,
      shall the matter be established.” (Deut 19:15)

    יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

    Father, I pray that you bring enlightenment to all who read this post, in YÄ-shü-ă's precious name I pray, Amen!


    LOL

    so you still cant read any verse that says lucifer is satan LOL

    now you are using again deut

    let me post the complete verse/
    deut 19.15
    15Before you are convicted of a crime, at least two witnesses must be able to testify that you did it.

    the verse refers to the crime committed …

    LOL

    this is so far from your own opinion. poor edj.


    Hi Jammin,

    Do you have anything to say about Matthew 18:20
    and its connection to the principal of establishing “Truth”?
    (Note: Matt 18:20 is only  THREE  verses after Matt 18:16)

    Matthew 18:20 For where  TWO  or  THREE  are gathered
    together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #291615
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    No lucifer in the terms for satan in Rev 12

    #291628
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 10 2012,16:57)
    Hi ED,
    Tell us how faith in the blood of Jesus saves anyone?
    Faith obeys


    Hi Nick,

    Romans 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood,
    to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #291629
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    Yes we must know of the Saviour and the forgiveness he has bought by his blood-effective to all who respond.
    But that faith must be living and obey the command to be born again.
    We must be baptised into his death.[rom6]

    Why do you call me LORD LORD and not do as I say?

    #291705
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 11 2012,17:02)

    Quote (jammin @ April 10 2012,17:19)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2012,09:42)
    Hi Everybody,

    Isa.14:19-20 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch,
    and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword,
    that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.
    20: Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed
    thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.

          These three points of focus “DO” establish the matter:

                       1. cast out of thy grave
                       2. like an abominable branch
                       3. thrust through with a sword

    “At the mouth of three witnesses,
      shall the matter be established.” (Deut 19:15)

    יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

    Father, I pray that you bring enlightenment to all who read this post, in YÄ-shü-ă's precious name I pray, Amen!


    LOL

    so you still cant read any verse that says lucifer is satan LOL

    now you are using again deut

    let me post the complete verse/
    deut 19.15
    15Before you are convicted of a crime, at least two witnesses must be able to testify that you did it.

    the verse refers to the crime committed …

    LOL

    this is so far from your own opinion. poor edj.


    Hi Jammin,

    Do you have anything to say about Matthew 18:20
    and its connection to the principal of establishing “Truth”?
    (Note: Matt 18:20 is only  THREE  verses after Matt 18:16)

    Matthew 18:20 For where  TWO  or  THREE  are gathered
    together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    it has no connection to the principle of establishing truth. it is just your opinion again LOL

    read the context well. how many mosquito coil do you sniff a day?
    that's bad for your brain. take some vitamins LOL

    this is the meaning of the verse
    mat 18
    19-20 “And I tell you once more that if two of you on earth agree in asking for anything it will be granted to you by my Heavenly Father. For wherever two or three people come together in my name, I am there, right among you!”

    that verse refers to when any two of you on earth agree about something you are praying for, his Father in heaven will do it for you.

    study hard boy LOL

    #291707
    jammin
    Participant

    edj
    so where is your verse that says that lucifer is satan?

    LOL

    #291792
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Jammin,

    We are gathered together here to help to establish truth. Father may you
    open our eyes to your truth, in YÄ-shü-ă's precious name I pray; Amen!

    Matthew 18:20 For where TWO or THREE are gathered
    together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #291833
    jammin
    Participant

    mat 18.20 refers to prayer or about anything you ask.
    Matthew 18:19-20

    Contemporary English Version (CEV)

    19 I promise that when any two of you on earth agree about something you are praying for, my Father in heaven will do it for you. 20 Whenever two or three of you come together in my name,[a] I am there with you.

    read the context boy LOL

    about lucifer, satan is not called lucifer. nowhere in the bible can you find that satan is lucifer.

    this association developed in Early Christianity, in the 2nd or 3rd century.
    some scholars claim that the identification of “Lucifer” with the Devil was first made by Origen, Tertullian and Augustine of Hippo.

    sorry boy. you need to study hard LOL

    #292074
    Ed J
    Participant

    “They that are in the flesh cannot please God.” (Rom 8:8)
    “The carnal mind is enmity against God” (Romans 8:7)

    #292102
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    Matthew 18:20 For where TWO or THREE are gathered
    together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

    I think it is about the Spirit witnessing to what is given to each individual=prophetic words, words of wisdom etc

    #292131
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 14 2012,10:19)
    Hi ED,
    Matthew 18:20 For where  TWO  or  THREE  are gathered
    together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

    I think it is about the Spirit witnessing to what is given to each individual=prophetic words, words of wisdom etc


    Hi Nick,

    You mean to establish “Truth”, correct?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #292133
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 14 2012,06:26)
    “They that are in the flesh cannot please God.” (Rom 8:8)
    “The carnal mind is enmity against God” (Romans 8:7)


    you have posted the verses that refers to you. good job LOL

    #292148
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 14 2012,11:45)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 14 2012,10:19)
    Hi ED,
    Matthew 18:20 For where  TWO  or  THREE  are gathered
    together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

    I think it is about the Spirit witnessing to what is given to each individual=prophetic words, words of wisdom etc


    Hi Nick,

    You mean to establish “Truth”, correct?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi EDE,
    No the Spirit is of power as well as truth.

    The kingdom of God is of power.

    By the Spirit is healing and wisdom and tongues and setting men free.

    All that Jesus did he gave for his brothers to do and he said they would do even greater things

    #292150
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    1 Corinthians 4:20
    For the kingdom of God does not consist in words but in power.

    #292151
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ed,
    John 14:12
    Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

    #292174
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 14 2012,13:11)
    Hi ED,
    1 Corinthians 4:20
    For the kingdom of God does not consist in words but in power.


    Hi,
    If the kingdom was just of words none here should worry.

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