Which Law?

[kenrch]

GOD'S LAW
Deu 10:1 At that time the LORD said unto me, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first, and come up unto me into the mount, and make thee an ark of wood.
Deu 10:2 And I will write on the tables the words that were in the first tables which thou brakest, and thou shalt put them in the ark.
Deu 10:3 And I made an ark of shittim wood, and hewed two tables of stone like unto the first, and went up into the mount, having the two tables in mine hand.
Deu 10:4 And he wrote on the tables, according to the first writing, the ten commandments, which the LORD spake unto you in the mount out of the midst of the fire in the day of the assembly: and the LORD gave them unto me.
Deu 10:5 And I turned myself and came down from the mount, and put the tables in the ark which I had made; and there they be, as the LORD commanded me.

THE LAW THAT MOSES WROTE

Deu 31:9 And Moses wrote this law, and delivered it unto the priests the sons of Levi, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, and unto all the elders of Israel.
Deu 31:26 Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.
1Ki 8:9 There was nothing in the ark save the two tables of stone, which Moses put there at Horeb, when the LORD made a covenant with the children of Israel, when they came out of the land of Egypt.

*There were no other laws in the ark of the covenant but the law that God wrote.
Notice the law Moses wrote was to be a witness against us for breaking God's law.

Gal 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

*Moses' law was added because of transgression, that is breaking of God's law and this law the sacrificial law that was a witness against us that Moses wrote was to be in effect TILL the seed should come to whom the promise was made.

Gal 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
Gal 3:23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
Gal 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

*Which law was a schoolmaster that pointed to the coming promise of the lamb of God? Which of God's law points to the coming Messiah the lamb of God?

Gal 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
Gal 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

*By faith that Jesus was that lamb of God, the sacrifice for our transgression of God's law. So we who believe that Jesus was the lamb of God for us in Christ have no longer a need to observe the law that pointed to the supreme sacrifice that is Jesus the lamb of God.

Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

*Jew or Gentile all are one in Christ therefore we no longer have to keep the sacrificial law He fulfilled.

Luk 24:44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

*Of the law of the Father Jesus said:

Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

*Who are the least in the kingdom? Are they not those of the second resurrection? Those who will have to be taught the truth that they don't have during the millennium.

*LOVE FULFILLMENT OF GOD'S LAW?

*What are the fruits of the love for God?

1Jo 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and obey his commandments.
1Jo 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome.

*DID PAUL TEACH THAT GOD'S LAW WAS DONE AWAY WITH?

*On the contrary Paul kept the law of God

Rom 7:22 For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being,
Rom 7:23 but I see in my members another law waging war against the law of my mind and making me captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members.
Rom 7:24 Wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death?
Rom 7:25 Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.
Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: [WHY?] for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

*Those who are flesh do not keep the law of God and cannot please God.

Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

*JEWS THAT WANTED TO KEEP THEIR TRADITION

Act 15:5 But some believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees rose up and said, “It is necessary to circumcise them and to order them to keep the law of Moses.”

*Whose law? The law of Moses!

*The judgment of the Holy Spirit

Act 15:28 For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay on you no greater burden than these requirements:
Act 15:29 that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.”

*Some have said “see Gentiles don't have to keep God's law” is this what the context of Acts 15 is stating? The issue was the “law of Moses” circumcision the traditions of the Jews. Is it alright for Gentiles to break God's Commandments, to steal, to murder, to break HIS Sabbath?

*If you wish to keep the law of Moses then you are welcome to do so (Romans ch 14). But you are no better for keeping it and certainly no worse for NOT keeping it.

*But what does matter?

1Co 7:19 For neither circumcision counts for anything nor uncircumcision, but keeping the commandments of God.

*What does the remnant of the true church do?

Rev 12:17 Then the dragon became furious with the woman and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus. And he stood on the sand of the sea.

*And the saints during the tribulation?

Rev 14:12 Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.

*Those who have a right to the tree of life?

Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

The scriptures speak for themselves. There is nothing added nor taken away.

IHN&L,

Ken

[chosenone]

Hi Ken.
Thanks for this article, you include many scripture to make a point with comments and questions regarding each segment, very well done.
I would like to include this rather lengthly commentary on the book of Acts. In Acts, is an explanation of God, abandoning for now, His “chosen people”, the Jews, and now in this present economy, turning to the nations (gentiles). It also explains that the “law”, (for the Jews) could not be fulfilled by the “flesh”, so was done away with, because it has served Gods purpose, giving all of us the knowledge of what 'sin' is. He (God), has now turned to the 'nations', with the covenant of “Grace”. This is just a brief description, of what is in greater detail, the following comment on the book of Acts.
This is from a source that I concider highly, it is my one of my favourite sources of information and scriptural commentary. When you have time to read it, I would be pleased to know your opinion on it. Thank you.

ACTS

The Acts is a continuation of Luke's Account. No longer does the Son of Mankind Himself make known the evangel, but by the Spirit of God through His apostles. He prayed, “Father, forgive them, for they are not aware what they are doing.” Thus the unbelieving nation once more hears the evangel of the kingdom, enforced by His resurrection from the dead. Israel had rejected Jehovah under the law. They rejected their Messiah when He came in mercy. Acts is a record of their rejection of the spirit of grace which lingers over them until blindness overtakes them for the eon. It begins with the descent of the spirit. It traces the rejection of the spirit. It ends with the spirit's repudiation of Israel. In the beginning, Peter unlocks the door of the kingdom for the Jews; at the close, Paul, in Rome, shuts the door of the kingdom and locks up Israel in obstinacy.
This treatise is transitional. From the first extreme where the nations seem to have no place at all, it leads us on until we arrive at the opposite, where the Jew loses his priority.
It is a record of Israel's response to the renewed proclamation of pardon, and chronicles their apostasy and their gradual rejection. But it also records God's answer to their defection, so that He, instead of being balked in His purpose to bless the other nations, makes their apostasy the basis of a much greater and grander grace than the nations could have experienced if Israel had not apostatized. There is no definite statement of this, for the subject of the book forbids it, yet all the symptoms of the present grace will be found, and each symptom follows a crisis in the apostasy of the chosen nation. In reading Acts let us remember that God is concerned with the kingdom to Israel, yet all the while He is making room for that distinct display of grace which we enjoy and which is fully expounded in Paul's epistles, most of which were written during this interregnum.
This account is a series of acts and counteracts. Jerusalem's stoning of Stephen is followed by the introduction of Saul of Tarsus. The persecution in Judea and Samaria is followed by his call on the Damascus road. The murder of James is succeeded by the severance of Saul. When the Jerusalem believers try to kill Paul, he is sent to Rome, where the nation of Israel is set aside and the salvation of God is sent to all the nations.
Peter appears prominently in the first parts of Acts to 12:24, but Paul replaces him in the latter portion. All that Peter did was more than matched by Paul. Every miracle the chief of the Circumcision apostles wrought was eclipsed by a similar sign, greater in glory and grace.
No truth characteristic of the present actually appears on the pages of Acts. Yet the distinctive doctrines we enjoy did not fall from heaven like a meteor; they gradually rose to view like the sun. In Acts we see their early refracted light before they appear above the horizon. Justification of a kind is preached at Pisidian Antioch, conciliation becomes clear as

MINISTRIES OF THE TWELVE
Acts 1:8 MINISTRIES OF PAUL
2 Cor. 3:18

The Rejection
of Israel Testimony in
Jerusalem
2-7:60 Judea and Samaria
8:4-40 The Limits of the Land
9:31-11:30 Decrees Issued
for the Nations
15:1-29 Persecution
of Paul
21:20-25:11 Israel is
Thrust Aside
28:25-28

The Reception
of the Nations Saul
Introduced
8:1-8 Saul Called
9:1-31 Saul Separated by the Spirit
13:2 Paul Repudiates
the Physical
19:21 2 Cor 5:16 Reveals the Secret
Eph 3:9

Dispensation Pardon for Repentence and Baptism Justification Conciliation Celestial Glory

OUTBREAKS OF ISRAEL'S APOSTASY
Christ
Crucified
1:3 Stephen
Stoned
7:38 Disciples
Scattered
8:1 James
Killed
12:2 Paul Stoned
at Lystra
14:29 Paul about
to be Killed
21:31 Paul Imprisoned
in Rome
28:16-31

the evangel reaches the nations through Jewish opposition, and the way is opened for the celestial secret of Paul's prison epistles by the public repudiation of Israel in Rome. The ministries of Paul, as recorded in Acts, bring us up to, but never into, present truth. That is found alone in his epistles.
This transitional era, from our Lord's crucifixion to the full establishment of the present secret economy, was marked by a series of changes in dispensation and administration. It is of prime importance that we understand the trend and character of these dispensational divisions, so that we may intelligently follow the inauguration of the economy or administration which is in force today.
These changes may be viewed from two entirely different standpoints. In the book of Acts they mark the steps which led to the rejection of the kingdom by Israel and of Israel by God.
In Paul's epistles the same crises are seen as they prepare for the introduction of the present administration. The trend of truth is continually away from the earthly and physical to the celestial and spiritual.
The accompanying outline [omitted] suggests the steps in Israel's defection and the gradual reception of the nations into blessing. One line is associated with the ministries of the twelve, the other with the apostle Paul. The two lines overlap. Paul is introduced immediately after the murder of Stephen by Jerusalem and each successive lapse of Israel is followed by adding another step in the course which culminated in the revelation of the present secret economy when he became a prisoner in Rome.
Paul's ministries keep pace with each phase of Israel's apostasy. Their unrighteousness is offset by faith righteousness as proclaimed at Pisidian Antioch. When their folly and poverty are manifest, he proclaims God's wisdom and wealth in Corinth, the commercial capital of the day. When their priestly functions fail, he goes to Ephesus, the religious center of the gentile world, and reveals the conciliation. Finally, when the promise of political supremacy is taken from them, Paul is in Rome, the world's political capital, and there he proclaims a new economy based on their political repudiation.
According to the prophets of old, all blessing for the nations is through and with the nation of Israel. So it will be in the kingdom. The distinctive truths of the present secret economy are based on the opposite of this. They follow Israel's failure and apostasy. So far as revealed in the Hebrew Scriptures, in the accounts of our Lord, and in the Circumcision epistles, there is no basis for blessing at all now, for Israel is the only channel that they know. The book of Acts fills the chasm between the kingdom economy and the present and traces the many steps which lead up to the blessing of the nations during this period, while Israel is thrust aside. It prepares the devout student of previous revelation for the astounding declaration
with which it closes, that the salvation of God is to be sent directly to the nations, apart from Israel's mediacy, and that the nations will hear it.
Throughout the Acts the nations are treated as subjects of the kingdom and subordinate to the Jewish nation. This is the case even in Paul's early epistles. The nations were debtors to Israel (Ro.15:27). But Israel's blessing waits until the fullness of the nations has come in (Ro.11), and when the apostle reveals the great secret that those under Paul's ministry are to be joint enjoyers of a celestial allotment, and a joint body and joint partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus (Eph.3:6), the entire kingdom economy vanishes and a new, secret economy takes its place. The great confusion among the saints today will vanish to a large extent if they will recognize the transitional, kingdom character of Acts, and draw their doctrine from Paul's epistles, especially those written at its close, before which the present secret administration was not revealed, and its doctrines were undeveloped, while God lingered over His ancient and beloved people Israel.

Blessings.

[kejonn]

CO,
where do you get the idea that God abandoned His chosen people to turn to the Gentiles? Scripture please. They were not abandoned, it was a matter of the Apostles finally being obedient to Yeshua's final commands about reaching all of the world.

[kejonn]

Hmmm, read the commentary. Now I know why I stumbled across some information of Paul the Apostate. I was mad at Paul for a while because what I was reading about this lined up with scripture but after doing some studying of my own, I realized that Paul was still in harmony with Yeshua.

The commentary you provided undermines Yeshua's Gospel. I've seen you do this before. Paul was not the savior, he did not hang on the cross. I challenge you to dig deep into Paul's writings and stop reading biased commentaries. If the Spirit flows within you, the truth will come to light. I think you will find that Paul's writings only strengthen, but do not abolish, the teachings of Paul's savior, Yeshua.

You would do well to remember the true teacher. Paul was mere man.

[NickHassan]

Hi KJ,
Paul was a man, like Christ.

Paul said in Galatians
“I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.”

Christ was in him and in the apostles continuing his works through his body on earth.

[chosenone]

Quote (kejonn @ July 13 2007,15:07)

CO, where do you get the idea that God abandoned His chosen people to turn to the Gentiles? Scripture please. They were not abandoned, it was a matter of the Apostles finally being obedient to Yeshua's final commands about reaching all of the world.

Hi kejonn.
You asked for scripture when God set aside the Jews and turned to the nations. Acts 13:46 Being bold, both Paul and Barnabas, say, “To you first Jews) was it necessary that the word of God be spoken. Yet, since, in fact, you are thrusting it away, and are judging yourselves not worthy of eonian life, lo! we are turning to the nations.

Blessings.

[chosenone]

Quote (kejonn @ July 13 2007,15:19)

Hmmm, read the commentary. Now I know why I stumbled across some information of Paul the Apostate. I was mad at Paul for a while because what I was reading about this lined up with scripture but after doing some studying of my own, I realized that Paul was still in harmony with Yeshua. The commentary you provided undermines Yeshua's Gospel. I've seen you do this before. Paul was not the savior, he did not hang on the cross. I challenge you to dig deep into Paul's writings and stop reading biased commentaries. If the Spirit flows within you, the truth will come to light. I think you will find that Paul's writings only strengthen, but do not abolish, the teachings of Paul's savior, Yeshua. You would do well to remember the true teacher. Paul was mere man.

Hi kejonn,
You say, “The commentary you provided undermines Yeshua's Gospel. I've seen you do this before”. Please refer to me the posting where you “have seen me do this before, I wouldn't like to be accused of “undermining the gospel” by you without the proof. I'm sure you will provide this information, not wanting to be “bearing false witness”.

Blessings.

[kejonn]

CO,

Quite simple, and I'm sure you can remember saying it without me finding it. You basically assert that the Gospels were for the Jews, and Pauls letters were for the Gentiles. You state that Paul “completed” the Gospel. I believe that he did no such thing, but merely emphasized it in a way that non-Jews could understand since they had not lived under the Law. Maybe that is what you mean by “completing” the Gospel, and if so, I apologize for falsely reading something into your assertion. In any case, the Gospel that Yeshua taught is the complete Gospel, Paul just helped the Gentiles to understand it in their own terms.

I would like to remind you that it was Yeshua who told the Apostles to spread the Gospel to the rest of the world. It did not start with Paul, but Paul was chosen to reach the Gentiles. And the gospel the Apostles knew was the Gospel Yeshua taught them. Therefore, the Gospel taught by Yeshua is valid for all, Jew or Gentile, and Paul's writings do not change that. Paul clarifed the meaning of the Gospel for those who had not known the God of Israel.

As to your Acts 13:46 reference, please be aware that it was not God who turned away from the Jews, but Paul and Barnabas

Acts 13:46 – Paul and Barnabas spoke out boldly and said, “It was necessary that the word of God be spoken to you first; since you repudiate it and judge yourselves unworthy of eternal life, behold, we are turning to the Gentiles.

In other words, God was directing Paul and Barnabas to turn to the Gentiles, not that God was turning away from the Jews. People want to read certain things into scripture that fits their theology rather than letting the words before them speak honestly.

In fact, we see that in Acts 17, Paul is teaching in a synagogue at Thessalonica. Some of the Jews believed (Acts 17:4) and followed Paul. Keep reading Acts and you'll find Paul in synagogues many more times. So the turning mentioned in Acts 13:46 is not a “turning away” but rather “turning to” the Gentiles as well.

John 3:16 says “For God so loved the world” not “For God so loved the Jews then got mad and loved the Gentiles”.  

[Mr. Steve]

Dear Kejonn and CO; I've read both your posts. From what I can gather from CO's post, he believes that the gospels were to the natural Jews and the epistles were to the Gentiles. For starters, the gospel is to whosoever will… Christ came to save sinners. God hath concluded all under sin. Christ teaches of the Kingdom of God and does not distinguish between Jew or Gentile. This was a revelation to the apostles in the book of Acts when the Lord showed Peter a vision of the clean and unclean and sent him to the house of Cornelius. Acts 10. After he returned from the house of Cornelius the apostles demanded an explanation (why are you sharing the gospel with gentiles?). Of course he explained that God showed him there is no difference between the Jew or Greek, bond or free. The apostle Paul echoes this message throughout his epistles. The notion that the Gospel was only intended for the natural Jews is unsupported by scripture. It's very interesting how enlightening the ministry of John the Baptist is in understanding God's plan of salvation. When he saw Jesus what did he say, “Behold, the Lamb of God which taketh away the sin of natural Israel? No, but the world. As Kejonn has correctly cited, God so loved the world that he gave… Paul and Jesus spend much time teaching on this particular truth, but the disciples never understood it until Acts 10. That's amazing. Many Christians today have a similar view that somehow God is going to do something special for natural Israel. He already did-he sent his Son to write his laws in their hearts and minds. But not to the natural Jews only, but to whosoever will. Romans 11 is used by many Christians to propagate that there is a special covenant with natural Israel. The verse states that this is my promise to them when I will take away their sins. Paul quotes the same verse out of the old testament twice in Hebrews. He spends much more time in Hebrews explaining the application of that promise is the New Covenant in Christ Jesus. In short, the Old Covenant under the Law was God's promise to Natural Israel and the New Covenant is God's promise to all who believe in Christ.

[NickHassan]

Good posts,
Thanks

[chosenone]

Quote (kejonn @ July 14 2007,04:20)

CO, Quite simple, and I'm sure you can remember saying it without me finding it. You basically assert that the Gospels were for the Jews, and Pauls letters were for the Gentiles. You state that Paul “completed” the Gospel. I believe that he did no such thing, but merely emphasized it in a way that non-Jews could understand since they had not lived under the Law. Maybe that is what you mean by “completing” the Gospel, and if so, I apologize for falsely reading something into your assertion. In any case, the Gospel that Yeshua taught is the complete Gospel, Paul just helped the Gentiles to understand it in their own terms. I would like to remind you that it was Yeshua who told the Apostles to spread the Gospel to the rest of the world. It did not start with Paul, but Paul was chosen to reach the Gentiles. And the gospel the Apostles knew was the Gospel Yeshua taught them. Therefore, the Gospel taught by Yeshua is valid for all, Jew or Gentile, and Paul's writings do not change that. Paul clarifed the meaning of the Gospel for those who had not known the God of Israel. As to your Acts 13:46 reference, please be aware that it was not God who turned away from the Jews, but Paul and Barnabas Acts 13:46 – Paul and Barnabas spoke out boldly and said, “It was necessary that the word of God be spoken to you first; since you repudiate it and judge yourselves unworthy of eternal life, behold, we are turning to the Gentiles. In other words, God was directing Paul and Barnabas to turn to the Gentiles, not that God was turning away from the Jews. People want to read certain things into scripture that fits their theology rather than letting the words before them speak honestly. In fact, we see that in Acts 17, Paul is teaching in a synagogue at Thessalonica. Some of the Jews believed (Acts 17:4) and followed Paul. Keep reading Acts and you'll find Paul in synagogues many more times. So the turning mentioned in Acts 13:46 is not a “turning away” but rather “turning to” the Gentiles as well. John 3:16 says “For God so loved the world” not “For God so loved the Jews then got mad and loved the Gentiles”.

kejonn.
Matt. 15:25 the words of Jesus, “I was not commisioned except for the “lost sheep of the house of Israel”. How could this be any plainer? His commision was for the 'Jews' only. Remember, in this era the gentiles were still away from God.
Also, Pauls letters WERE for the Gentiles, see Ro. 15:8, Jesus for the circumcision, and, Ro.15:16, Paul for the “nations”.
In Col.1:25, …of which I (Paul) became a dispenser, in accord with the administration of God, which is granted to me for you, to complete the word of God – 26. the secret which has been concealed from the eons and from the generations, yet…
About the Apostles going to the nations, see Matt.10:5- 6, These twelve Jesus commissions, charging them, saying, “Into a road of the nations you may not pass forth, and into a city of the Samaritans you may not be entering.
Yet be going rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel”.
You probably mean Matt.28:19-20.
19 Going, then, disciple all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit,
20 teaching them to be keeping all, whatever I direct you. And lo! I am with you all the days till the conclusion of the eon! Amen!”
We may say these two scriptures contradict each other. But not so, the risen Jesus was still rejected by the Jews, the kingdom was not realised, so Matt. 28:19-20 has yet to be fulfilled. It will be when God makes the new covenant with them as spoken in Jer. 31:31 repeated again in Heb.8:8-12.
Paul, on his conversion, did preach to the Jews for awhile, before he was commisioned to the nations.
Now regarding the “law”, and its status now, see Phil.3:4-14
4 And am I having confidence in flesh, also? If any other one is presuming to have confidence in flesh, I rather:
5 in circumcision the eighth day, of the race of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews, in relation to law, a Pharisee,
6 in relation to zeal, persecuting the ecclesia, in relation to the righteousness which is in law, becoming blameless.
7 But things which were gain to me, these I have deemed a forfeit because of Christ.
8 But, to be sure, I am also deeming all to be a forfeit because of the superiority of the knowledge of Christ Jesus, my Lord, because of Whom I forfeited all, and am deeming it to be refuse, that I should be gaining Christ,
9 and may be found in Him, not having my righteousness, which is of law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is from God for faith:
10 to know Him, and the power of His resurrection, and the fellowship of His sufferings, conforming to His death,
11 if somehow I should be attaining to the resurrection that is out from among the dead.
12 Not that I already obtained, or am already perfected. Yet I am pursuing, if I may be grasping also that for which I was grasped also by Christ Jesus.
13 Brethren, not as yet am I reckoning myself to have grasped, yet one thing — forgetting, indeed, those things which are behind, yet stretching out to those in front —
14 toward the goal am I pursuing for the prize of God's calling above in Christ Jesus.
This describes Paul,a Jew, set apart by God for a apostle for the nations, says this as he describes what he thought about the “law” and all his previous life trying to live to the “law”. He calls this past life “refuse”, some versions call it “dung”.
We are not now (gentiles never were) under the law, but under :Grace”.

“All is of God, all is by Him, thru Him, and for Him.” Ro.11:36.

Blessings.

[chosenone]

Quote (Mr. Steve @ July 14 2007,05:50)

Dear Kejonn and CO;  I've read both your posts.  From what I can gather from CO's post, he believes that the gospels were to the natural Jews and the epistles were to the Gentiles.  For starters, the gospel is to whosoever will…  Christ came to save sinners.  God hath concluded all under sin.  Christ teaches of the Kingdom of God and does not distinguish between Jew or Gentile.  This was a revelation to the apostles in the book of Acts when the Lord showed Peter a vision of the clean and unclean and sent him to the house of Cornelius. Acts 10.  After he returned from the house of Cornelius the apostles demanded an explanation (why are you sharing the gospel with gentiles?).  Of course he explained that God showed him there is no difference between the Jew or Greek, bond or free.   The apostle Paul echoes this message throughout his epistles.   The notion that the Gospel was only intended for the natural Jews is unsupported by scripture.  It's very interesting how enlightening the ministry of John the Baptist is in understanding God's plan of salvation.  When he saw Jesus what did he say, “Behold, the Lamb of God which taketh away the sin of natural Israel? No, but the world.  As Kejonn has correctly cited, God so loved the world that he gave…  Paul and Jesus spend much time teaching on this particular truth, but the disciples never understood it until Acts 10.  That's amazing.  Many Christians today have a similar view that somehow God is going to do something special for natural Israel.  He already did-he sent his Son to write his laws in their hearts and minds.  But not to the natural Jews only, but to whosoever will.  Romans 11 is used by many Christians to propagate that there is a special covenant with natural Israel.  The verse states that this is my promise to them when I will take away their sins.  Paul quotes the same verse out of the old testament twice in Hebrews.   He spends much more time in Hebrews explaining the application of that promise is the New Covenant in Christ Jesus.  In short, the Old Covenant under the Law was God's promise to Natural Israel and the New Covenant is God's promise to all who believe in Christ.

Hi Mr. Steve.
Thanks for your reply, much appreciated. I can't recall any scripture refering to 'natural Israel”, is there an 'unnatural Israel'?
I believe you have a misunderstanding of scripture, Paul did not write the book of “Hebrews”. Hebrews resumes the subject of the book of Acts. Paul's epistles are a parenthesis in God's administrations. In Acts the kingdom is proclaimed, and rejected by the nation of Israel as a whole. Yet there was a remnant who believed. Of these the Hellenists followed the revelations given to Paul and found a new and a celestial destiny. But the Hebrews, associated with the twelve apostles and James, whose destiny is the kingdom as promised by the prophets, are left in a distressing situation due to the national defection of Israel. What is to become of them during the time that the nation stumbles? The kingdom cannot come until after the fullness of the nations has come in. That could hardly be during their lifetime. The book of Hebrews deals with the problem of these Pentecostal believers and takes them back to the same position as was occupied by the patriarchs and prophets of old, as explained in the eleventh chapter. They died in faith, not having received the promises.
Also, the “New Covenant” as described in Heb.8:8-12, and also previously in Jer.31:31, has not yet been realised. This should easily known by the begining.
The “old covenant” is not the Hebrew scriptures, but the compact made with Israel at Mount Sinai. It was two-sided. The people proposed to do their part and Jehovah engaged to do His. They promised to obey Him, but dismally failed to do so, consequently He could not fulfill His promises to bless them.
The new covenant which He will make with them after they have been restored to their land, and have received their Messiah, is radically different from the old. The people have no active part in it whatever. All depends on Jehovah. Hence it will not be a failure. The law that was written on stones will be written on their hearts.
For other answers to your post, please see my reply to kejonn, most of your post I have answered there. Thanks again.

Blessings.

[kejonn]

CO,

Enjoy life. I hope it is truly the abundant life (John 10:10). Ooops, John 10:10 was written to the Jews, so I guess the abundant life is not yours to have. Enjoy a hollow life then .

I will not engage you any further. You are only open to that which you have already decided is true. Any other post to you is time I will not regain.

[chosenone]

Quote (kejonn @ July 16 2007,13:57)

CO, Enjoy life. I hope it is truly the abundant life (John 10:10). Ooops, John 10:10 was written to the Jews, so I guess the abundant life is not yours to have. Enjoy a hollow life then  . I will not engage you any further. You are only open to that which you have already decided is true. Any other post to you is time I will not regain.

kejonn.
Thanks for your reply, you are correct about John.10:10.

Blessings.

[kenrch]

2Co 3:18(CEV) So our faces are not covered. They show the bright glory of the Lord, as the Lord's Spirit makes us more and more like our glorious Lord.

Act 6:14 for we have heard him say that this Jesus of Nazareth will destroy this place and will change the customs that Moses delivered to us.”

Acts 2-7:60 * I agree that the apostles were as Christ. And of course that the customs of Moses has been fulfilled.

8:4-40* Simon did not receive any gifts of the Spirit because His heart was not right.

Acts 9:31-11:30
Act 10:28 And he said to them, “You yourselves know how unlawful it is for a Jew to associate with or to visit anyone of another nation, but God has shown me that I should not call any person common or unclean.

Act 10:34 So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that God shows no partiality,

Act 10:35 but in every nation anyone who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him.

Act 10:42 And he commanded us to preach to the people and to testify that he is the one appointed by God to be judge of the living and the dead.

Act 10:43 To him all the prophets bear witness that everyone * who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.”

*** Sin being transgression of the law. If we should sin we have forgiveness so to be as Christ IN Christ*not by our merit but by Christ's merit.

Act 10:45 And the believers from among the circumcised who had come with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit was poured out even on the Gentiles.

**So the customs of Moses were no more***

Act 11:18 When they heard these things they fell silent. And they glorified God, saying, “Then to the Gentiles also God has granted repentance that leads to life.”

Act 11:26 and when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. For a whole year they met with the church and taught a great many people. And in Antioch the disciples were first called Christians.

Act 11:29 So the disciples determined, everyone according to his ability, to send relief to the brothers living in Judea.

Act 11:30 And they did so, sending it to the elders by the hand of Barnabas and Saul. *1Cor. 16:1-3

***God is no respecter of persons having come and work through the Gentiles ALSO.

Acts 15:1-29

Act 15:8 And God, who knows the heart, bore witness to them, by giving them the Holy Spirit just as he did to us,

**God gave His Holy Spirit to those who were NOT of Moses' customs.

**and the Holy Spirit gave witness that the Gentiles were not under Moses' customs that is the ritual laws contained in ordnances * Col 2:14-16.

Act 15:9 and he made no distinction between us and them, having cleansed their hearts by faith.

Act 15:28 For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay on you no greater burden than these requirements:

Act 15:29 that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.”

Acts 21:20-25:11

1Co 9:20 To the Jews I became as a Jew, in order to win Jews. To those under the law I became as one under the law (though not being myself under the law) that I might win those under the law.

Acts 28:25-28
Act 28:28 Therefore let it be known to you that this salvation of God has been sent to the Gentiles; they will listen.”

Act 28:30 He lived there two whole years at his own expense, and welcomed all who came to him,

Act 28:31 proclaiming the kingdom of God and teaching about the Lord Jesus Christ with all boldness and without hindrance.

2Co 5:15 And that he died for * ALL, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.

2Co 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

2Co 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

**CO, we are one in Christ If we, no matter who we are after the flesh be it Jew or Gentile, are one in Christ. Those who reject Jesus are the antichrist be it Jew OR Gentile.

Eph 3:9 And to make *ALL men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

*Again CO *all men* not just Gentiles or Jews but ALL men “the Sabbath was made for MAN not Jews or Gentiles but ALL men.

*All who reject Christ are antichrist not just Jews!

Romans chapter 11, CO we are grafted into Israel. Those of Israel who accept Christ are Christians and though being fleshly Jews they are also Spiritual Jews just as you and I.

Rom 11:12 Now if the fall of them [JEWS] be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fullness?

How much more are the fullness of the Jews.

Rom 11:17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, although a wild olive shoot, were grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing root of the olive tree,

Rom 11:18 do not be arrogant toward the branches. If you are, remember it is not you who support the root, but the root that supports you.

WE are grafted into Israel not Israel into we the Gentiles!

So was the Ten Commandments written only for Israel? NOT if you are grafted into Israel. In Acts we read that the Gentiles do not “have” to keep Moses' law Acts 15:5, 28-29. If we are free from Moses' law are we free to sin?

Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

IHN&L,

Ken

[chosenone]

Hi kenrch.
Yes, I agree, we are all one in this era. Either Jew or Gentile, there is no difference now. It was not always so, before Christs' death and ressurection, Gods' “chosen People”, were the Jews. The gentiles were estranged from God, but they had only the crumbs from their (Jews) table. Jews were the “children of the bridechamber” (Matt.9:15); our Lord was the “bridegroom” (Mark 2:19,20; Luke 5:34,35). His ministry and that of the twelve was definitely excluded from the Gentiles (Matt.10:5; 15:24). But, yes, you are right, in this persent era, believing Jews and Gentiles are saved. The unbelieving Jews, still trying to keep the “law”, have been divorced by God. But He (God) will again return for Israel, He will graft them in again (Ro.11:24), and all Israel shall be saved (Ro.11:26). But I am puzzeled about your quote of Ro.3:31, I'll have to study that one further, it does sound like the law is to be kept. But it may mean that through “faith”, imputed by Gods' spirit, we keep the law, not of ourselves, because it is written in our heart.
Thanks again for your reply, it was very interesting.

Blessings.

[NickHassan]

Hi CO,
All are saved?
Not just a remnant this time?

Whuy bother telling anyone of this new gospel then?

[kenrch]

Quote (chosenone @ July 17 2007,15:14)

Hi kenrch.     Yes, I agree, we are all one in this era.  Either Jew or Gentile, there is no difference now.  It was not always so, before Christs' death and ressurection, Gods' “chosen People”, were the Jews.  The gentiles were estranged from God, but they had only the crumbs from their (Jews) table.  Jews were the “children of the bridechamber” (Matt.9:15); our Lord was the “bridegroom” (Mark 2:19,20; Luke 5:34,35). His ministry and that of the twelve was definitely excluded from the Gentiles (Matt.10:5; 15:24).   But, yes, you are right, in this persent era, believing Jews and Gentiles are saved.  The unbelieving Jews, still trying to keep the “law”, have been divorced by God.  But He (God) will again return for Israel, He will graft them in again (Ro.11:24), and all Israel shall be saved (Ro.11:26).  But I am puzzeled about your quote of Ro.3:31, I'll have to study that one further, it does sound like the law is to be kept. But it may mean that through “faith”, imputed by Gods' spirit, we keep the law, not of ourselves, because it is written in our heart.     Thanks again for your reply, it was very interesting. Blessings.

CO, The Jews are divorced from God because they reject His Son.  They prove they reject the Son by keeping Moses' law.
Under the “New Covenant” everything is spiritual nothing is physical.  We worship in Spirit and Truth.
Paul never said that the Law of God was done away with or fulfilled.
1Co 9:21  To those outside the law I became as one outside the law (not being outside the law of God but under the law of Christ) that I might win those outside the law.

To the Gentiles who were outside the law[of God] Paul became as they so as to understand them.  BUT Paul NOT being outside [without] the law of God, BUT under the law of Christ.  Christ fulfilling the sacrificial law of Moses, Luke 24:44.

1Co 9:20  To the Jews I became as a Jew, in order to win Jews. To those under the law I became as one under the law (though not being myself under the law) that I might win those under the law.

To the Jew, those under the law [the sacrificial law of Moses] Paul became as they so he could correspond with the Jews BUT Paul was NOT under the law of Moses BUT under the law of Christ.

This is why Peter said Paul's writings ARE hard to understand. Paul is not under the law of Moses but has faith that Jesus was the Messiah and fulfilled the sacrificial law. But Paul's writings concerning the law is not clearly written.  One minute Paul seems to say that the law [the whole law] was done away with, nailed to the cross. But which law did Jesus fulfill? Did Jesus do away with the Ten Commandment law of His Father? If so which of the Ten speak of the lamb of God?  The answer is clear NONE of God's law had anything to do with the sacrificial law that Christ fulfilled. And the next minute Paul says do we nullify the law of God, GOD FORBID we establish the law.
It is only by the Spirit that we can keep God's law.  If we walk according to the flesh we are not subject to the law of God and we cannot keep God's law, Rom. 8:4-7.
Rom 7:14  For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am of the flesh, sold under sin.
Again If we walk in Spirit we Keep or establish God's law.

2Pe 3:16  as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters.There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures.

What matters?

2Pe 3:13  But according to his promise we are waiting for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.
2Pe 3:14  Therefore, beloved, since you are waiting for these, be diligent to be found by him without spot or blemish, and at peace.

What matters: His promise, the new heaven and earth. BUT be diligent to be found by Christ WITHOUT spot or blemish, and at peace.
2Pe 3:17  You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, [that Paul's writtings are hard to understand] take care that you are not carried away with the error of lawless people and lose your own stability.

God's TEN Commandment law has NOT been done away with. The Law has been written on our heart and mind.  We know better than to lie, steal, murder etc. However their is one law that is NOT written on our heart and mind it is the fourth commandment. Because it is NOT written our mind and heart we are to REMEMBER to keep HIS Sabbath.  We elect to keep GOD's day instead of the Harlot's first day as the Sabbath.  But that's bondage!  NO! That's choice!  Do you want to please God?  Then you keep His day instead of the Harlot's day Sunday.  Love fulfills the law!  AGAIN what is the fruit of that love for God?

1Jo 5:3  For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome.

If you love someone YOU DO THINGS TO PLEASE THEM. You WANT to do things that please those you love.

The Father won't make you do anything especially LOVE HIM.  So the forth commandment is NOT automatic If you love God you seek to please your Father. WE REMEMBER [because HE is our Father and creator] to keep HIS DAY and not the commandment of the Harlot.

The New Covenant IS spiritual and so is the Ten Commandments.  Jesus made the law spiritual He didn't do away with them!
Mat 5:20  For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees [physical], you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:21  “You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not murder; and whoever murders will be liable to judgment.'
Mat 5:22  But I say to you that everyone who is angry [spiritual] with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, 'You fool!' will be liable to the hell of fire.

Mat 5:19  Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Is Jesus saying that whoever does not offer burnt offerings will be the least in the kingdom? WHICH LAW is Jesus speaking of, that will not change until heaven and earth pass away?

Mat 5:18  For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

IHN&L,

Ken

[chosenone]

Hi kenrch.
    A very good posting, I need time to digest what you are saying, you give scripture, which is helpfull to understand the point you are making.  In the meantime I am including a chart explaining how to “correctly cut the word of truth”, for your information, and comments by you as to what you think of this information.  I do not wish to impose this on you, but you seem eager about Gods word, and this is something I would like your opinion on.  Here is the chart:

Correctly Cutting the Word of Truth
2 Timothy 2:15  
There is a good rule to follow for finding out what a text or a section or a chapter or a book means. It is attributed to both Miles Coverdale and John Wycliffe. It is worth knowing and should be copied into one's copy of the Bible for constant reference and for constant application to all studies made of the Sacred Scriptures. Here it is:

THE GOLDEN RULE OF SCRIPTURE INTERPRETATION

“It shall greatly helpe ye to understand Scripture,
if thou mark not only what is spoken or wrytten,
but of whom, and to whom, with what words,
at what time, where, to what intent, with what circumstances,
considering what goeth before and what followeth after.”

spoudason seauton dokimon  parasthsai tw yew ergathn anepaiscunton oryotomounta ton logon thv alhyeiav Greek
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. K.J.V.
Do your best to present yourself to God as one  approved, a workman who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth. R.S.V.
Give diligence to present thyself approved unto God, a workman that  needeth not to be  ashamed, handling aright the word of truth. A.S.V.
Be diligent to present thyself approved to God– a workman irreproachable, rightly dividing the word of the truth;  Young's Literal
Endeavor to present yourself  to God qualified, an unashamed worker, correctly cutting the word of truth. Concordant Literal
Earnestly seek to commend yourself to God as a servant who, . . . has no reason to feel any shame. because of his straight-forward
dealing with the word of truth, Weymouth
Do your best to present yourself to God as one  approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth. N.I.V.

Circumcision Scriptures
Concerning the Kingdom of God, in Fulfillment of the Hebrew Scriptures

MATTHEW PRESENTS THE KING
Say to the daughter of Zion, “Lo! Your King…”
– Matthew 21:5

SENT TO ISRAEL

“I was not commissioned except for the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
– Matthew 15:24

MARK PRESENTS THE SERVANT
“The Son of Mankind came, not to be served, but to serve…”
– Mark 10:45

WHO SERVED ISRAEL

“Hear, Israel! the Lord our God is one Lord.”
– Mark 12:29

LUKE PRESENTS THE PERFECT MAN
“Really, this Man was just.”
– Luke 23:47

THE GLORY OF ISRAEL

“The Glory of Thy people Israel.”
– Luke 2:32

JOHN PRESENTS THE SON OF GOD
“He came out from God, and is going away to God.”
– John 13:3

MANIFESTED TO ISRAEL

“that He may be manifested to Israel…”
– John 1:31

ACTS PRESENTS THE TRANSITION
“To you (the Jews) first was it necessary that the word of God be spoken. Yet since … you are thrusting it away … lo! we are turning to the nations.”
-Acts 13:46

HEBREWS – A NEW COVENANT WITH ISRAEL
“Lo! the days are coming,” the Lord is saying, “And I shall be concluding with the house of Israel and with the house
of Judah a new covenant.”
– Hebrews 8:8

JAMES – SALVATION BY WORKS
The faith cannot save him.
– James 2:14

APPLICABLE TO THE TWELVE TRIBES

James … to the twelve tribes in the dispersion.
– James 1:1

PETER'S PROMISES TO THE CHOSEN RACE
Yet you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood,
a holy nation…
– 1 Peter 2:9

JOHN STRESSES THE LAW
And in this we know that we know Him, if we should be keeping His precepts.
– 1 John 2:3

TO THOSE WHO CAME OUT

they came out for the sake of the Name, getting nothing from those of the nations.
– 3 John 7

JUDE – A REMINDER TO THOSE ONCE AWARE
to remind you, you who once are aware of all, that the Lord, when saving the people out of the land of Egypt, secondly destroys those who believe not.
– Jude 5

REVELATION – JEWISH PROMISES FULFILLED
“I have granted to those… (who are saying that they themselves are Jews, and are not, but are lying) Lo! I shall be making them that they will be arriving and worshipping before your feet, and they may know that I love you.”
– Revelation 3:9

Uncircumcision Scriptures
Concerning the Body of Christ, The Mystery Hidden in Past Ages

Paul Presents Christ to the Nations
“But, on the contrary, perceiving that I have been entrusted with the evangel of the Uncircumcision, according as Peter of the Circumcision … James and Cephas and John … give to me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, that we, indeed, are to be for the nations, yet they for the Circumcision.”
– Galatians 2:7-9 –

The Evangel for Today
“To me, less than the least of all saints, was granted this grace: to bring the evangel of the untraceable riches of Christ to the nations, and to enlighten all as to what is the administration of the secret, which has been concealed from the eons in God.”
– Ephesians 3:8-9 –

ROMANS-JUSTIFICATION, CONCILIATION
through Whom we obtained grace and apostleship for faith-obedience among all the nations…- Romans 1:5

But now, apart from law, a righteousness of God is manifest…- Romans 3:21

Being justified gratuitously in His grace…- Romans 3:24

seeing that out of him, and through Him and for Him is all…- Romans 11:36

their (Israel's) casting away is the conciliation of the world…- Romans 11:15

God locks up all together all in stubbornness, that He should be merciful to all.
– Romans 11:32

1 CORINTHIANS – THE BODY OF CHRIST
but we are speaking God's wisdom in a secret, which has been concealed,   which God designates before the eons for our glory …
– 1 Corinthians 2:7

Now you are the body of Christ, and members of a part, whom also God, indeed, placed in the ecclesia,
– 1 Corinthians 12:27

For even as, in Adam, all are dying,  thus also, in Christ, shall all be vivified. … that God may be All in all.- 1 Corinthians 15:22,28

2 CORINTHIANS – A NEW CREATION
So that, if anyone is in Christ, there is a new creation: the primitive passed by. Lo! there has become new!- 2 Corinthians 5:17

Yet all is of God, Who conciliates us to Himself through Christ, and is giving us the dispensation of the conciliation, how that God was in Christ, conciliating the world to Himself, not reckoning their offenses to them, and placing in us the word of the conciliation.
– 2 Corinthians 5:18-19

GALATIANS – FAITH, NOT WORKS OF LAW
I am marvelling that thus, swiftly, you are transferred, from that which calls you in the grace of Christ, to a different evangel, which is not another, except it be that some who are disturbing you, want to distort the evangel of Christ.- Galatians 1:6-7

we also believe in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by the faith of Christ; and not by works of law; seeing that by works of law shall no flesh at all be justified.
– Galatians 2:16

did you get the spirit by works of law or by the hearing of faith…?
– Galatians 3:5

For whoever are of works of law are under a curse,
– Galatians 3:10

EPHESIANS – SPIRITUAL BLESSINGS
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, Who blesses us with every spiritual blessing among the celestials…
– Ephesians 1:3

Wherefore, remember
that once you, the nations in flesh … were, in that era, apart from Christ, being alienated from the citizen- ship of Israel, and guests of the promise covenants, having no expectation, and without God in the world.
– Ephesians 2:11-12

Yet now, in Christ Jesus, you, who once are far off, are become near by the blood of Christ.
– Ephesians 2:13

On this behalf I, Paul, the prisoner of Christ Jesus for you, the nations — since you surely hear of the administration of the grace of God that is given to me for you, for by revelation the secret is made known to me: in spirit the nations are to be joint enjoyers of an allotment, and joint partakers of the promise
– Ephesians 3:1-6

PHILIPPIANS – OUR REALM IN THE HEAVENS
For our realm is inherent in the  heavens, – Philippians 3:20

that in the name of Jesus every knee should be bowing, celestial and terrestrial and subterranean, and every tongue should be acclaiming that Jesus Christ is Lord, for the glory of God, the Father.
– Philippians 2:10-11

COLOSSIANS – CHRIST THE HEAD
And He is the Head of the body, the  ecclesia, … and through Him to reconcile all to Him (making peace through the blood of His cross), through Him, whether those on the earth or those in the heavens.
– Colossians 1:18-20

which is granted to me for you, to complete the word of God–
– Colossians 1:25

1 THESSALONIANS – MEET THE LORD IN THE AIR
for the Lord Himself will be descending from heaven with a shout of command … and the dead in Christ shall be rising first. Thereupon we, the living … shall at the same time be snatched away together with them in clouds, to meet the Lord in the air. And thus shall we always be together with the Lord.
– 1 Thessalonians 4:16

2 THESSALONIANS – BE NOT QUICKLY SHAKEN
be not quickly shaken from your mind, nor yet be alarmed, either through spirit, or through word, or through an epistle as through us, as that the day of the Lord is present. … should not the apostasy be coming first …?
– 2 Thessalonians 2:2-3

1 TIMOTHY – SAVIOUR OF ALL
For there is one God, and one Mediator of God and mankind, a Man, Christ Jesus, Who is giving Himself a correspondent Ransom for all … for which I was appointed a herald and an apostle … a teacher of the nations in knowledge and truth.
– 1 Timothy 2:5-7

Faithful is the saying and worthy of all welcome (for for this are we toiling and being reproached), that we rely on the living God, Who is the Saviour of all mankind, especially of believers. These things be charging and teaching.
– 1 Timothy 4:9-11

2 TIMOTHY – WHO SAVES US AND CALLS US
in accord with the power of God, Who saves us and calls us with a holy calling, not in accord with our acts, but in accord with His own purpose and the grace which is given to us in Christ Jesus before times eonian, 10 yet now is being manifested through … the evangel of which I was appointed a herald and an apostle and a teacher of the nations.
– 2 Timothy 1:8-11

TITUS- SAVED ACCORDING TO HIS MERCY
Yet when the kindness and fondness for humanity of our Saviour, God, made its advent, not for works which are wrought in righteous- ness which we do, but according to His mercy, He saves us …- Titus 3:4-5

PHILEMON – THE CONDUCT OF GRACE
I am thanking my God always, … that the fellow- ship of your faith may be- come operative in the reali- zation of every good thing which is in us for Christ Jesus … seeing that the compassions of the saints are  soothed through you, brother. – Philemon 6

[IM4Truth]

Chosenone You are so right. God did divorce the Jew's and He is not done with them, He will graft them in again.
We are under a New Covenant. God made the Old Covenant with Israel and the Sabbath was a Sign between them and God.
Peace Mrs.IM4Truth

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