Which Bible should I believe?

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    kerwin
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    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 17 2014,11:03)

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 17 2014,04:53)

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 17 2014,04:39)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 16 2014,02:33)

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    Wakeup,

    I do not know what Revelations 19 has to do with our conversation but I do know that I believe the unapproachable light God dwells in is physical light and that was why Moses' face shown when he came down from the mountain.


    Kerwin.

    Yes, God appears as physical light.
    His wisdom is spiritual light.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    I agree.  Do you agree God covered himself with physical light the first Night and Day?


    Kerwin.

    God is that light spiritual/wisdom; and physical.

    On the first day of creation; that was not the first time
    of exisrence of that light.
    That light was from everlasting:physical and spiritual.
    On the first day of creation it says; LET THERE BE LIGHT.
    This was not the beginning of God's light.

    PS. A light bulb is covered with light coming from within.
         Angels are covered with light from within.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    I believe that the first occurrence of physical light occurred on the first Night and Day because that was the time God created it.


    Kerwin.

    And the evening and the morning was the first DAY.
    The sun has to be involved to have day and night,
    not God's light.
    There is no darkness in God's light.
    God's presence is light continuously.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    There is no requirement for a sun as my room is light by a source of light even when there is not a sun in the sky.  God is a source of physical light and he can say when a day is over and when it starts.  A night is when God states it is and a day is when God states is just like the sun of earth did not become a lamp for earth until the fourth night and day.


    Kerwin.

    Please consider.

    Genesis 1:4   ***And God saw the light***,
                        ***that it was good***:
           ***and God divided the light from the darkness***.

    God just only saw that his light is Good??

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    It means that God created a night and a day but it does not say what the source of the light of day was nor whether it was a heavenly or earthly day. On the forth day the Sun was lighted and first used to divide earth's day between night and day.

    #367548
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 17 2014,17:34)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 17 2014,11:03)

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 17 2014,15:50)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 17 2014,04:53)

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 17 2014,04:39)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 16 2014,02:33)

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2014,13:34)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 15 2014,05:28)

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2014,10:06)
    Wakeup,

    I do not know what Revelations 19 has to do with our conversation but I do know that I believe the unapproachable light God dwells in is physical light and that was why Moses' face shown when he came down from the mountain.


    Kerwin.

    Yes, God appears as physical light.
    His wisdom is spiritual light.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    I agree.  Do you agree God covered himself with physical light the first Night and Day?


    Kerwin.

    God is that light spiritual/wisdom; and physical.

    On the first day of creation; that was not the first time
    of exisrence of that light.
    That light was from everlasting:physical and spiritual.
    On the first day of creation it says; LET THERE BE LIGHT.
    This was not the beginning of God's light.

    PS. A light bulb is covered with light coming from within.
         Angels are covered with light from within.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    I believe that the first occurrence of physical light occurred on the first Night and Day because that was the time God created it.


    Kerwin.

    And the evening and the morning was the first DAY.
    The sun has to be involved to have day and night,
    not God's light.
    There is no darkness in God's light.
    God's presence is light continuously.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    There is no requirement for a sun as my room is light by a source of light even when there is not a sun in the sky.  God is a source of physical light and he can say when a day is over and when it starts.  A night is when God states it is and a day is when God states is just like the sun of earth did not become a lamp for earth until the fourth night and day.


    Kerwin.

    Please consider.

    Genesis 1:4   ***And God saw the light***,
                        ***that it was good***:
           ***and God divided the light from the darkness***.

    God just only saw that his light is Good??

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    It means that God created a night and a day but it does not say what the source of the light of day was nor whether it was a heavenly or earthly day.  On the forth day the Sun was lighted and first used to divide earth's day between night and day.


    Kerwin.

    God is the light of the three nights except the fourth night.

    Scripture please.

    wakeup.

    #367582
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 17 2014,13:06)

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 17 2014,17:34)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 17 2014,11:03)

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 17 2014,15:50)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 17 2014,04:53)

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 17 2014,04:39)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 16 2014,02:33)

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2014,13:34)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 15 2014,05:28)

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2014,10:06)
    Wakeup,

    I do not know what Revelations 19 has to do with our conversation but I do know that I believe the unapproachable light God dwells in is physical light and that was why Moses' face shown when he came down from the mountain.


    Kerwin.

    Yes, God appears as physical light.
    His wisdom is spiritual light.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    I agree.  Do you agree God covered himself with physical light the first Night and Day?


    Kerwin.

    God is that light spiritual/wisdom; and physical.

    On the first day of creation; that was not the first time
    of exisrence of that light.
    That light was from everlasting:physical and spiritual.
    On the first day of creation it says; LET THERE BE LIGHT.
    This was not the beginning of God's light.

    PS. A light bulb is covered with light coming from within.
         Angels are covered with light from within.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    I believe that the first occurrence of physical light occurred on the first Night and Day because that was the time God created it.


    Kerwin.

    And the evening and the morning was the first DAY.
    The sun has to be involved to have day and night,
    not God's light.
    There is no darkness in God's light.
    God's presence is light continuously.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    There is no requirement for a sun as my room is light by a source of light even when there is not a sun in the sky.  God is a source of physical light and he can say when a day is over and when it starts.  A night is when God states it is and a day is when God states is just like the sun of earth did not become a lamp for earth until the fourth night and day.


    Kerwin.

    Please consider.

    Genesis 1:4   ***And God saw the light***,
                        ***that it was good***:
           ***and God divided the light from the darkness***.

    God just only saw that his light is Good??

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    It means that God created a night and a day but it does not say what the source of the light of day was nor whether it was a heavenly or earthly day.  On the forth day the Sun was lighted and first used to divide earth's day between night and day.


    Kerwin.

    God is the light of the three nights except the fourth night.

    Scripture please.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    On the fourth day it is said “And God made two great lights”. One of those great light is the Sun. There is an argument that says something may come to be on the days after is Scripture states it was made but none that say it came to be before Scripture states it is made. Since Scripture declares that God created the lights of the Sun and the moon on the fourth Night and Day of creation then they were not lighted before that Night and Day.

    If earth had a Night and Day the sun was not yet the ruler of it. God on the other hand always rules both the night and the day. I favor that the Night and Day's are of heaven and not of earth because it is written “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night” and the there is another Day that was divided from the Night.

    #367588
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 18 2014,06:24)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 17 2014,13:06)

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 17 2014,17:34)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 17 2014,11:03)

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 17 2014,15:50)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 17 2014,04:53)

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 17 2014,04:39)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 16 2014,02:33)

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2014,13:34)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 15 2014,05:28)

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2014,10:06)
    Wakeup,

    I do not know what Revelations 19 has to do with our conversation but I do know that I believe the unapproachable light God dwells in is physical light and that was why Moses' face shown when he came down from the mountain.


    Kerwin.

    Yes, God appears as physical light.
    His wisdom is spiritual light.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    I agree.  Do you agree God covered himself with physical light the first Night and Day?


    Kerwin.

    God is that light spiritual/wisdom; and physical.

    On the first day of creation; that was not the first time
    of exisrence of that light.
    That light was from everlasting:physical and spiritual.
    On the first day of creation it says; LET THERE BE LIGHT.
    This was not the beginning of God's light.

    PS. A light bulb is covered with light coming from within.
         Angels are covered with light from within.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    I believe that the first occurrence of physical light occurred on the first Night and Day because that was the time God created it.


    Kerwin.

    And the evening and the morning was the first DAY.
    The sun has to be involved to have day and night,
    not God's light.
    There is no darkness in God's light.
    God's presence is light continuously.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    There is no requirement for a sun as my room is light by a source of light even when there is not a sun in the sky.  God is a source of physical light and he can say when a day is over and when it starts.  A night is when God states it is and a day is when God states is just like the sun of earth did not become a lamp for earth until the fourth night and day.


    Kerwin.

    Please consider.

    Genesis 1:4   ***And God saw the light***,
                        ***that it was good***:
           ***and God divided the light from the darkness***.

    God just only saw that his light is Good??

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    It means that God created a night and a day but it does not say what the source of the light of day was nor whether it was a heavenly or earthly day.  On the forth day the Sun was lighted and first used to divide earth's day between night and day.


    Kerwin.

    God is the light of the three nights except the fourth night.

    Scripture please.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    On the fourth day it is said “And God made two great lights”.  One of those great light is the Sun.  There is an argument that says something may come to be on the days after is Scripture states it was made but none that say it came to be before Scripture states it is made.  Since Scripture declares that God created the lights of the Sun and the moon on the fourth Night and Day of creation then they were not lighted before that Night and Day.

    If earth had a Night and Day the sun was not yet the ruler of it.  God on the other hand always rules both the night and the day.  I favor that the Night and Day's are of heaven and not of earth because it is written “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night” and the there is another Day that was divided from the Night.


    Kerwin.

    1.Why would the light of the first three days be different
    from the light of the fourth day?
    For what purpose?
    2.Why would God shine on an earth that is with no form and
    void?

    3. God uses his power to create the sun to give light to the
    earth; He does not use Himself to light the earth.

    3.Why would God shine on the earth for three days,
    then let the sun take over? You need to explain this.

    wakeup.

    #367614
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 18 2014,05:26)

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 18 2014,06:24)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 17 2014,13:06)

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 17 2014,17:34)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 17 2014,11:03)

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 17 2014,15:50)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 17 2014,04:53)

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 17 2014,04:39)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 16 2014,02:33)

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2014,13:34)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 15 2014,05:28)

    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2014,10:06)
    Wakeup,

    I do not know what Revelations 19 has to do with our conversation but I do know that I believe the unapproachable light God dwells in is physical light and that was why Moses' face shown when he came down from the mountain.


    Kerwin.

    Yes, God appears as physical light.
    His wisdom is spiritual light.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    I agree.  Do you agree God covered himself with physical light the first Night and Day?


    Kerwin.

    God is that light spiritual/wisdom; and physical.

    On the first day of creation; that was not the first time
    of exisrence of that light.
    That light was from everlasting:physical and spiritual.
    On the first day of creation it says; LET THERE BE LIGHT.
    This was not the beginning of God's light.

    PS. A light bulb is covered with light coming from within.
         Angels are covered with light from within.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    I believe that the first occurrence of physical light occurred on the first Night and Day because that was the time God created it.


    Kerwin.

    And the evening and the morning was the first DAY.
    The sun has to be involved to have day and night,
    not God's light.
    There is no darkness in God's light.
    God's presence is light continuously.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    There is no requirement for a sun as my room is light by a source of light even when there is not a sun in the sky.  God is a source of physical light and he can say when a day is over and when it starts.  A night is when God states it is and a day is when God states is just like the sun of earth did not become a lamp for earth until the fourth night and day.


    Kerwin.

    Please consider.

    Genesis 1:4   ***And God saw the light***,
                        ***that it was good***:
           ***and God divided the light from the darkness***.

    God just only saw that his light is Good??

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    It means that God created a night and a day but it does not say what the source of the light of day was nor whether it was a heavenly or earthly day.  On the forth day the Sun was lighted and first used to divide earth's day between night and day.


    Kerwin.

    God is the light of the three nights except the fourth night.

    Scripture please.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    On the fourth day it is said “And God made two great lights”.  One of those great light is the Sun.  There is an argument that says something may come to be on the days after is Scripture states it was made but none that say it came to be before Scripture states it is made.  Since Scripture declares that God created the lights of the Sun and the moon on the fourth Night and Day of creation then they were not lighted before that Night and Day.

    If earth had a Night and Day the sun was not yet the ruler of it.  God on the other hand always rules both the night and the day.  I favor that the Night and Day's are of heaven and not of earth because it is written “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night” and the there is another Day that was divided from the Night.


    Kerwin.

    1.Why would the light of the first three days be different
       from the light of the fourth day?
       For what purpose?
    2.Why would God shine on an earth that is with no form and
       void?

    3. God uses his power to create the sun to give light to the
       earth; He does not use Himself to light the earth.  

    3.Why would God shine on the earth for three days,
      then let the sun take over? You need to explain this.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    God chose to create thing as he chose for his own reasons.  He does not tell me.  The most he has told me is what I can obtain from Scripture and it states God made the Sun and the moon a lamp on the forth Night and Day. So I know that the Sun and moon were lighted no sooner than the fourth Night and Day of creation.

    #367626
    terraricca
    Participant

    Guy's could cut your quotes shorter please thanks

    #367627
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Kerwin.

    Decerning the sciptures is important.
    The forth day is a summation of what He has made previously.
    The heat of the sun seprerated the waters from the water.
    Then life appeard, life on earth can not exist without the sun.
    You can not live without the sun,for you will freeze to death.

    wakeup.

    #367645
    sonofGod
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 03 2013,11:59)

    I stumbled upon this video yesterday, very interesting.
    I'm not into preachers who say “God told me” but I'm into facts.


    Do you really expect someone to watch a 94 minute video?

    could you not sum it up at all?

    #367669
    terraricca
    Participant

    the truth of God is not ;KJV versus NIV

    or Jerusalem bible versus NASV

    or NWT versus KJV /NIV/NASV /AKJV/ect or vise versa

    this is not God's way but men's doing

    they all have within there own version the key to see the truth ,THE QUESTION IS DO WE WANT TO SEE IT ???

    #367694
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 18 2014,13:11)
    Kerwin.

    Decerning the sciptures is important.
    The forth day is a summation of what He has made previously.
    The heat of the sun seprerated the waters from the water.
    Then life appeard, life on earth can not exist without the sun.
    You can not live without the sun,for you will freeze to death.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    I see no evidence to support your claim that the events recorded as happening on day four of creation were only to sum up what happened earlier. As for life, only the plants were created previous to the fourth Night and Day. Scripture also states:

    Genesis 2:5
    Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    5 and every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.

    and

    Genesis 2:8-9
    Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    8 And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. 9 And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

    #367700
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Sonofgod.

    Please bear with it;it is worthed.
    He speaks the truth.
    And he did it well.

    wakeup.

    #367701
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2014,05:24)
    the truth of God is not ;KJV versus NIV

    or Jerusalem bible  versus NASV

    or NWT  versus KJV /NIV/NASV /AKJV/ect   or vise versa

    this is not God's way but men's doing

    they all have within there own version the key to see the truth ,THE QUESTION IS DO WE WANT TO SEE IT ???


    T.

    You must make a choice.
    You can not be on both sides.
    On God's side, and on the blasphemer's side.
    That only makes you a HARLOT.
    Keep the corrupted bible, or throw it in the trash.
    Your conscience will make that choice.
    Remember: If you are in bed with a leper;you will
    get the decease also.

    wakeup.

    #367711
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 19 2014,05:46)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2014,05:24)
    the truth of God is not ;KJV versus NIV

    or Jerusalem bible  versus NASV

    or NWT  versus KJV /NIV/NASV /AKJV/ect   or vise versa

    this is not God's way but men's doing

    they all have within there own version the key to see the truth ,THE QUESTION IS DO WE WANT TO SEE IT ???


    T.

    You must make a choice.
    You can not be on both sides.
    On God's side, and on the blasphemer's  side.
    That only makes you a HARLOT.
    Keep the corrupted bible, or throw it in the trash.
    Your conscience will make that choice.
    Remember: If you  are in bed with a leper;you will
    get the decease also.

    wakeup.


    w

    may God return your words to you ,

    #367718
    journey42
    Participant

    sonofGod,Jan. wrote:

    [/quote]

    Quote
    Do you really expect someone to watch a 94 minute video?
    could you not sum it up at all?


    Son of God
    Every body here has all the time in the world.

    #367752
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 19 2014,09:08)

    sonofGod,Jan. wrote:

    [/quote]

    Quote
    Do you really expect someone to watch a 94 minute video?
    could you not sum it up at all?


    Son of God
    Every body here has all the time in the world.


    :D :D

    #367772
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2014,11:56)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 19 2014,05:46)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2014,05:24)
    the truth of God is not ;KJV versus NIV

    or Jerusalem bible  versus NASV

    or NWT  versus KJV /NIV/NASV /AKJV/ect   or vise versa

    this is not God's way but men's doing

    they all have within there own version the key to see the truth ,THE QUESTION IS DO WE WANT TO SEE IT ???


    T.

    You must make a choice.
    You can not be on both sides.
    On God's side, and on the blasphemer's  side.
    That only makes you a HARLOT.
    Keep the corrupted bible, or throw it in the trash.
    Your conscience will make that choice.
    Remember: If you  are in bed with a leper;you will
    get the decease also.

    wakeup.


    w

    may God return your words to you ,


    T.

    You have made your choice.
    And so be it.

    wakeup.

    #367787
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 19 2014,19:33)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2014,11:56)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 19 2014,05:46)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2014,05:24)
    the truth of God is not ;KJV versus NIV

    or Jerusalem bible  versus NASV

    or NWT  versus KJV /NIV/NASV /AKJV/ect   or vise versa

    this is not God's way but men's doing

    they all have within there own version the key to see the truth ,THE QUESTION IS DO WE WANT TO SEE IT ???


    T.

    You must make a choice.
    You can not be on both sides.
    On God's side, and on the blasphemer's  side.
    That only makes you a HARLOT.
    Keep the corrupted bible, or throw it in the trash.
    Your conscience will make that choice.
    Remember: If you  are in bed with a leper;you will
    get the decease also.

    wakeup.


    w

    may God return your words to you ,


    T.

    You have made your choice.
    And so be it.

    wakeup.


    W

    HOLDING ONE OF THE HORNS OF THE TEMPLE WILL NOT SAVE YOU ,

    #367806
    Wakeup
    Participant

    T.

    Contradicting the word of God is against God,and that will get
    you into great trouble.Sporting against the Word of God is
    foolishness.Compromising with the antichrists is against God.

    Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers,
    ***against the rulers of the darkness of this world***,
    ***against spiritual wickedness in high places***.

    Wickedness in corrupting the Word of God with their new translations.And you are in the same bed with them.

    wakeup.

    #367811
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 20 2014,02:51)
    T.

    Contradicting the word of God is against God,and that will get
    you into great trouble.Sporting against the Word of God is
    foolishness.Compromising with the antichrists is against God.

    Ephesians 6:12   For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers,
     ***against the rulers of the darkness of this world***,
     ***against spiritual wickedness in high places***.

    Wickedness in corrupting the Word of God with their new translations.And you are in the same bed with them.

    wakeup.


    W

    Quote
    Wickedness in corrupting the Word of God with their new translations.And you are in the same bed with them.

    AT LEAST MY GOD DOES NOT CREATE “EVIL”

    #367940
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 20 2014,10:22)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 20 2014,02:51)
    T.

    Contradicting the word of God is against God,and that will get
    you into great trouble.Sporting against the Word of God is
    foolishness.Compromising with the antichrists is against God.

    Ephesians 6:12   For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers,
     ***against the rulers of the darkness of this world***,
     ***against spiritual wickedness in high places***.

    Wickedness in corrupting the Word of God with their new translations.And you are in the same bed with them.

    wakeup.


    W

    Quote
    Wickedness in corrupting the Word of God with their new translations.And you are in the same bed with them.

    AT LEAST MY GOD DOES NOT CREATE “EVIL”


    T.

    I know which god you worship.
    He is that evil one created by my God.
    My God created him for *HIS* plan on earth.
    So we can know evil, for our own good.
    God's children must know good and evil.

    wakeup.

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