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Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 15 2012,13:03) Quote (terraria @ Aug. 15 2012,03:08) wup Quote The new heavens and the new earth will be after the second resurrection,but before this there is the war of gog and magog. This is when satan will be destroyed. the war of gog and magog is at the end after the second resurrection and at the end of the ONE HOUR
Terra.See rev.20:7. satan let loose after the 1000yrs in prison and start the war of gog and magog.
VERSE 8. he will deceive the nations again,and gather them to war; gog and magog.
VERSE 9. satan will compass the camp of the saints.
(camp of the saints is the the kingdom in israel).He will be destroyed; then comes the second white throne judgment,consisting of all populations past present and future.
People of all religions.wake up.
wupplease try to read scriptures more slowly ,you run and do not see most of it ;
when Satan is releast he will deceive the nations again (along this will take
)when all the people of God will be taken out of the people of the second resurrection (those will be teaches by those of the first resurrection )then he will take the nations to but first the nations will know that he as deceived them and take him down and what reality is left would make those nations go to the holy city and try to take it over but God from heaven destroy them (but all this take time if we take 1000 years and divided by 24 hours so one hour would be 41.67 years of earth years,
the good thing about it is that those of the first resurrection will not be in danger to any of it .
Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 15 2012,07:37) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 15 2012,13:03) Quote (terraria @ Aug. 15 2012,03:08) wup Quote The new heavens and the new earth will be after the second resurrection,but before this there is the war of gog and magog. This is when satan will be destroyed. the war of gog and magog is at the end after the second resurrection and at the end of the ONE HOUR
Terra.See rev.20:7. satan let loose after the 1000yrs in prison and start the war of gog and magog.
VERSE 8. he will deceive the nations again,and gather them to war; gog and magog.
VERSE 9. satan will compass the camp of the saints.
(camp of the saints is the the kingdom in israel).He will be destroyed; then comes the second white throne judgment,consisting of all populations past present and future.
People of all religions.wake up.
wupplease try to read scriptures more slowly ,you run and do not see most of it ;
when Satan is releast he will deceive the nations again (along this will take
)when all the people of God will be taken out of the people of the second resurrection (those will be teaches by those of the first resurrection )then he will take the nations to but first the nations will know that he as deceived them and take him down and what reality is left would make those nations go to the holy city and try to take it over but God from heaven destroy them (but all this take time if we take 1000 years and divided by 24 hours so one hour would be 41.67 years of earth years,
the good thing about it is that those of the first resurrection will not be in danger to any of it .
Terra.satan will be in prison for a 1000yrs and then he will be let loose for a SEASON. rev20:3.(season is a short time).
Verese 6.Blessed and holy is he that had part in the FIRST resurrection,on such the SECOND DEATH hath no power,but they shall be PRIESTS of God and of Christ,and shall REIGN with him a 1000yrs. (will be in charge)
PRIESTS TEACHING WHO? teaching the jews in the kingdom:
and the jews will teach the gentiles outside.(for 1000yrs)Then satan let loose for a season,to draw all the BAD ones to him. and he will gather them to one place,to compass the camp of the saints, now satan and all his children are gone.
(DESTROYED).Now will start the second resurrection: all people from the past present and future,of all kinds of religions will be resurected in the flesh to be judged BY THE BOOKS.
The SHEEP put on the right and the GOATS put on the left.
The GOATS will be cast in the fire; and the SHEEP will be accepted in the kingdom; they will be changed into spirit.Now the earth will be burned up,to get rid of all the polutions INSIDE AND OUTSIDE THE EARTH.
And the heavens also will disolved,will be rolled up like a scroll.
The earth must be sanctified,clean before God will come down.Now the new earth is ready to accept God,from heaven.
All his children will be with him forever,and the universe is ours also.wakeup.
wup
Quote PRIESTS TEACHING WHO? teaching the jews in the kingdom:
and the jews will teach the gentiles outside.(for 1000yrs)this I do not understand
Quote The SHEEP put on the right and the GOATS put on the left.
The GOATS will be cast in the fire; and the SHEEP will be accepted in the kingdom; they will be changed into spirit.is this literally done
Quote Now will start the second resurrection: all people from the past present and future,of all kinds of religions will be resurected in the flesh to be judged BY THE BOOKS. I do not think any one will be there in the future , the second resurrection will be judged the same way than all others by the verdict of Christ
Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 17 2012,15:49) wup Quote PRIESTS TEACHING WHO? teaching the jews in the kingdom:
and the jews will teach the gentiles outside.(for 1000yrs)this I do not understand
Quote The SHEEP put on the right and the GOATS put on the left.
The GOATS will be cast in the fire; and the SHEEP will be accepted in the kingdom; they will be changed into spirit.is this literally done
Quote Now will start the second resurrection: all people from the past present and future,of all kinds of religions will be resurected in the flesh to be judged BY THE BOOKS. I do not think any one will be there in the future , the second resurrection will be judged the same way than all others by the verdict of Christ
Terra.If you stydy the prophesies you will find that:
There is a first gathering of the jews,(this already happenedin 1948).hunters will be send to hunt them.
And the second gathering of the jews,(coming; in the 1000yr rest).They will live in peace.
The first gathering,(Jer.16:15.16.).(God will gather them,and then send hunters to hunt them).1948, till today.
Second gathering,(Jer.23:3—8).They will live in peace,and will be taught,they will be at rest).
Isiah 11:11—16. this is the SECOND gathering, and they will live in paradise.(verse 6.).
wakeup.
wup
Quote Terra. If you study the prophesies you will find that:
There is a first gathering of the jews,(this already happened in 1948).hunters will be send to hunt them.
And the second gathering of the jews,(coming; in the 1000yr rest).They will live in peace.
The first gathering,(Jer.16:15.16.).(God will gather them,and then send hunters to hunt them).1948, till today.
Second gathering,(Jer.23:3—8).They will live in peace,and will be taught,they will be at rest).
Isiah 11:11—16. this is the SECOND gathering, and they will live in paradise.(verse 6.).
wake up.
again this is not in scriptures ,Israel as been rejected by God (the earthly that his ) it is now known in heaven as the spiritual Israel and Jerusalem ,
Israel (men) have failed deeply and so God has give them out just like all other gentiles,this was confirmed in 70AD by the final destruction of Jerusalem by Titus, mean final flat destruction of all temple buildings,
you are miss interpreting scriptures in there application in time.
Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 18 2012,03:07) wup Quote Terra. If you study the prophesies you will find that:
There is a first gathering of the jews,(this already happened in 1948).hunters will be send to hunt them.
And the second gathering of the jews,(coming; in the 1000yr rest).They will live in peace.
The first gathering,(Jer.16:15.16.).(God will gather them,and then send hunters to hunt them).1948, till today.
Second gathering,(Jer.23:3—8).They will live in peace,and will be taught,they will be at rest).
Isiah 11:11—16. this is the SECOND gathering, and they will live in paradise.(verse 6.).
wake up.
again this is not in scriptures ,Israel as been rejected by God (the earthly that his ) it is now known in heaven as the spiritual Israel and Jerusalem ,
Israel (men) have failed deeply and so God has give them out just like all other gentiles,this was confirmed in 70AD by the final destruction of Jerusalem by Titus, mean final flat destruction of all temple buildings,
you are miss interpreting scriptures in there application in time.
Terra.YOU ARE MISINFORMED IM AFRAID.
The natural olive brach will be grafted back on.(physical israel).
It will be better than the wild olive branches(christian gentiles).
Romans 11:24. For if thou were cut out of the olive tree which is WILD by nature(gentiles),and were grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these which be the NATURAL branches,be grafted into their own olive tree?(the jews will be grafted back on).See Ez.11:17.—20.
21:26.27.Jer.25:29.
30:11.
46:28.wakeup.
wup
Quote Terra. YOU ARE MISINFORMED IM AFRAID.
The natural olive brach will be grafted back on.(physical israel).
It will be better than the wild olive branches(christian gentiles).
Romans 11:24. For if thou were cut out of the olive tree which is WILD by nature(gentiles),and were grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these which be the NATURAL branches,be grafted into their own olive tree?(the jews will be grafted back on).See Ez.11:17.—20.
21:26.27.Jer.25:29.
30:11.
46:28.wakeup.
The natural olive branch are the Jews that were preach to and favored for a while ,but after the years Paul also give up on them ,and so what was written in scriptures that gentiles will take their place ,and this are part of the new Jerusalem 144k
and also be a part of the first resurrection ,because they have not believed in the son of God , this is the verdict.
Ro 11:21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.
Ro 11:22 Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off.
Ro 11:23 And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.
Ro 11:24 After all, if you were cut out of an olive tree that is wild by nature, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree, how much more readily will these, the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree!Ro 11:25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in.
Ro 11:26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written:
“The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
Ro 11:27 And this is my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”
Ro 11:28 As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies on your account; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs,
Ro 11:29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable.
Ro 11:30 Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience,
Ro 11:31 so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now receive mercy as a result of God’s mercy to you.
Ro 11:32 For God has bound all men over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.this as nothing to do with Ezek and Jeremy
but with the resurrection of all ,
Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 18 2012,12:09) wup Quote Terra. YOU ARE MISINFORMED IM AFRAID.
The natural olive brach will be grafted back on.(physical israel).
It will be better than the wild olive branches(christian gentiles).
Romans 11:24. For if thou were cut out of the olive tree which is WILD by nature(gentiles),and were grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these which be the NATURAL branches,be grafted into their own olive tree?(the jews will be grafted back on).See Ez.11:17.—20.
21:26.27.Jer.25:29.
30:11.
46:28.wakeup.
The natural olive branch are the Jews that were preach to and favored for a while ,but after the years Paul also give up on them ,and so what was written in scriptures that gentiles will take their place ,and this are part of the new Jerusalem 144k
and also be a part of the first resurrection ,because they have not believed in the son of God , this is the verdict.
Ro 11:21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.
Ro 11:22 Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off.
Ro 11:23 And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.
Ro 11:24 After all, if you were cut out of an olive tree that is wild by nature, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree, how much more readily will these, the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree!Ro 11:25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in.
Ro 11:26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written:
“The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
Ro 11:27 And this is my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”
Ro 11:28 As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies on your account; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs,
Ro 11:29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable.
Ro 11:30 Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience,
Ro 11:31 so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now receive mercy as a result of God’s mercy to you.
Ro 11:32 For God has bound all men over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.this as nothing to do with Ezek and Jeremy
but with the resurrection of all ,
Terra.Romans 11:25. ISRAEL HAS EXPERIENCE HARDNING IN PART,–UNTILL– THE FULL NUMBER OF THE GENTILES HAS COME IN. (untill).
verse26. AND SO ALL ISRAEL WILL BE SAVED,AS IT IS WRITTEN:
After the gentiles has come in; then israel will have a turn.
ISIAH 10:21.THE –REMNANT–SHALL RETURN EVEN THE REMNANT OF JACOB(israel), UNTO THE THE MIGHTY GOD.
WHAT REMNANT? REMNANT OF WHAT?
AFTER THE DESTRUCTION OF BABYLON,GOD WILL BRING BACK THE JEWS THAT HE HAS CHOSEN OF ALL GENERATIONS.
ONE EXAMPLE:Jer.31:17. And there is hope in the end,saith the Lord,that they children shall come AGAIN to their own border.
Rachels(abrahams wife) children murdered by king herod will be brought back again to israel. and so will be the others; by choice.(brought back into the rest).wakeup.
wup
Quote Terra. Romans 11:25. ISRAEL HAS EXPERIENCE HARDNING IN PART,–UNTILL– THE FULL NUMBER OF THE GENTILES HAS COME IN. (untill).
verse26. AND SO ALL ISRAEL WILL BE SAVED,AS IT IS WRITTEN:
After the gentiles has come in; then israel will have a turn.
ISIAH 10:21.THE –REMNANT–SHALL RETURN EVEN THE REMNANT OF JACOB(israel), UNTO THE THE MIGHTY GOD.
WHAT REMNANT? REMNANT OF WHAT?
AFTER THE DESTRUCTION OF BABYLON,GOD WILL BRING BACK THE JEWS THAT HE HAS CHOSEN OF ALL GENERATIONS.
ONE EXAMPLE:Jer.31:17. And there is hope in the end,saith the Lord,that they children shall come AGAIN to their own border.
Rachels(abrahams wife) children murdered by king herod will be brought back again to israel. and so will be the others; by choice.(brought back into the rest).wakeup.
all that may be true but it only will happen in Gods due time ,and that is at the second resurrection that all the Jews will be resurrected with all others ,
Isa 10:20 In that day the remnant of Israel,
the survivors of the house of Jacob,
will no longer rely on him
who struck them down
but will truly rely on the LORD,
the Holy One of Israel.
Isa 10:21 A remnant will return, a remnant of Jacob
will return to the Mighty God.
Isa 10:22 Though your people, O Israel, be like the sand by the sea,
only a remnant will return.
Destruction has been decreed,
overwhelming and righteous.
Isa 10:23 The Lord, the LORD Almighty, will carry out
the destruction decreed upon the whole landif this as an application it would be at the time of Jesus and until the year 70 ad wen all was destroyed ,the remnant are the righteous that went to the Christ to be saved verse 21,the destruction of Jerusalem and the land was decreed no way out.
wup
Quote Terra. Romans 11:25. ISRAEL HAS EXPERIENCE HARDNING IN PART,–UNTILL– THE FULL NUMBER OF THE GENTILES HAS COME IN. (untill).
verse26. AND SO ALL ISRAEL WILL BE SAVED,AS IT IS WRITTEN:
After the gentiles has come in; then israel will have a turn.
does not scriptures say that the first ones will be last
yes and so the majority of Jews that have not accepted Christ will be last to come in the kingdom and this is at the second resurrection.Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 19 2012,17:41) wup Quote Terra. Romans 11:25. ISRAEL HAS EXPERIENCE HARDNING IN PART,–UNTILL– THE FULL NUMBER OF THE GENTILES HAS COME IN. (untill).
verse26. AND SO ALL ISRAEL WILL BE SAVED,AS IT IS WRITTEN:
After the gentiles has come in; then israel will have a turn.
does not scriptures say that the first ones will be last
yes and so the majority of Jews that have not accepted Christ will be last to come in the kingdom and this is at the second resurrection.
Terra.The first that will inherit the kingdom of heaven are the gentile saints; the jews will be living at rest for a 1000yrs,taught the gospels by the saints.
Then at the second resurrection they also shall inherit the kingdom of heaven,after the gentiles.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 20 2012,08:27) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 19 2012,17:41) wup Quote Terra. Romans 11:25. ISRAEL HAS EXPERIENCE HARDNING IN PART,–UNTILL– THE FULL NUMBER OF THE GENTILES HAS COME IN. (untill).
verse26. AND SO ALL ISRAEL WILL BE SAVED,AS IT IS WRITTEN:
After the gentiles has come in; then israel will have a turn.
does not scriptures say that the first ones will be last
yes and so the majority of Jews that have not accepted Christ will be last to come in the kingdom and this is at the second resurrection.
Terra.The first that will inherit the kingdom of heaven are the gentile saints; the jews will be living at rest for a 1000yrs,taught the gospels by the saints.
Then at the second resurrection they also shall inherit the kingdom of heaven,after the gentiles.wakeup.
wupscriptures please
Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 20 2012,02:57) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 20 2012,08:27) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 19 2012,17:41) wup Quote Terra. Romans 11:25. ISRAEL HAS EXPERIENCE HARDNING IN PART,–UNTILL– THE FULL NUMBER OF THE GENTILES HAS COME IN. (untill).
verse26. AND SO ALL ISRAEL WILL BE SAVED,AS IT IS WRITTEN:
After the gentiles has come in; then israel will have a turn.
does not scriptures say that the first ones will be last
yes and so the majority of Jews that have not accepted Christ will be last to come in the kingdom and this is at the second resurrection.
Terra.The first that will inherit the kingdom of heaven are the gentile saints; the jews will be living at rest for a 1000yrs,taught the gospels by the saints.
Then at the second resurrection they also shall inherit the kingdom of heaven,after the gentiles.wakeup.
wupscriptures please
Terra.Isiah 11:6–11. 65:17—25.
Zech.8:3—-9.(this is the 1000yr rest for the jews; paradise).
The saints are already resurrected in the first resurrection.
And they will teach these jews living in peace.wakeup.
Wup
This is not true,,the call from Jesus went first to the Jews, all his apostles are Jews and the Gentiles are only filling the empty seats of the number,and we also have to consider all the righteous Jews from of old,so you are wrong here
Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 20 2012,18:16) Wup This is not true,,the call from Jesus went first to the Jews, all his apostles are Jews and the Gentiles are only filling the empty seats of the number,and we also have to consider all the righteous Jews from of old,so you are wrong here
Terra.You are breaking the scriptures again:
No man can come to the father but by me.
So the old jews also must go through Christ.
And they will come through Christ after they have been taught in the 1000yrs.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 21 2012,05:14) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 20 2012,18:16) Wup This is not true,,the call from Jesus went first to the Jews, all his apostles are Jews and the Gentiles are only filling the empty seats of the number,and we also have to consider all the righteous Jews from of old,so you are wrong here
Terra.You are breaking the scriptures again:
No man can come to the father but by me.
So the old jews also must go through Christ.
And they will come through Christ after they have been taught in the 1000yrs.wakeup.
wupyou have it wrong ,;
all believers in God during the old testament will be resurrected in the first resurrection ,all believers after Christ that believe in Christ will be resurrected in the first resurrection starting from the end not from the beginning ;so only believers will be in the first resurrection ,and those will bring them selves to each other up to date on all what God ad done through Christ his only son,
when the 1000 years will be up;then the second resurrection will start again with the end first going down to the beginning and those will be instructed by the believers of the first resurrection anyone of them accepting Christ will become one of the believers all others opposed will create their own clan and circle and will eventually wage war against Christ ,and be destroyed for it .(in a nut shell)
Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 21 2012,15:48) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 21 2012,05:14) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 20 2012,18:16) Wup This is not true,,the call from Jesus went first to the Jews, all his apostles are Jews and the Gentiles are only filling the empty seats of the number,and we also have to consider all the righteous Jews from of old,so you are wrong here
Terra.You are breaking the scriptures again:
No man can come to the father but by me.
So the old jews also must go through Christ.
And they will come through Christ after they have been taught in the 1000yrs.wakeup.
wupyou have it wrong ,;
all believers in God during the old testament will be resurrected in the first resurrection ,all believers after Christ that believe in Christ will be resurrected in the first resurrection starting from the end not from the beginning ;so only believers will be in the first resurrection ,and those will bring them selves to each other up to date on all what God ad done through Christ his only son,
when the 1000 years will be up;then the second resurrection will start again with the end first going down to the beginning and those will be instructed by the believers of the first resurrection anyone of them accepting Christ will become one of the believers all others opposed will create their own clan and circle and will eventually wage war against Christ ,and be destroyed for it .(in a nut shell)
Terra.How many times now do I have to repeat my self?
First: The 1st resurrection is the changing into spirit.
This will only happen to the true believers in Christ.This is the first resurrection.(a few juwish true christians also).These have inherited the kingdom of heaven,for they are spirit.
At the same time all the jews chosen by God,will be brought back in the FLESH and put in paradise,(the 1000yrs rest) to be taught about Christ. satan is not to be found on earth,for he is locked up in the pit.
The teaching of the jews Will be done by the resurrected saints.
And the jews with knowledge taught by the saints,will also teach the gentiles outside paradise,and many gentiles will receive them and follow them. But also many will not.1000yrs is a long time,and they will multiply,jews and gentiles,will have children.
When the 1000yrs are finished; satan will be let loose,and will bring all the non believers to one place to attack this camp of the saints(paradisse).
They all will be destroyed by fire from heaven.(satan also)
Now in all the graves on earth,are some good and some bad,of all people of all generations. And also the true followers jews that died in paradise of old age.Now comes the 2nd resurrection; the true jews in christ will be resurrected in spirit: now comes the separation between the sheep and the goats;they will be resurrected in the flesh, judged by the books.
The sheep will be accepted and the goats cast in the fire.(all the bad are gone).(satan,gone) (the earth is still dirty).Now God will work on the earth itself;it will be melted down.
And a new earth created: Then God himself will come down; holy jerusalem will be on earth.(thy will -IS- done on earth).wakeup.
Hi Wake-up,
Repeating things (over and over) don't make them any more true.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Aug. 21 2012,18:32) Hi Wake-up, Repeating things (over and over) don't make them any more true.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.And you can not find fault, just stamping it with your feet.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 22 2012,00:44) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 21 2012,18:32) Hi Wake-up, Repeating things (over and over) don't make them any more true.
God bless
Ed J
EDJ.And you can not find fault, just stamping it with your feet.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,I have pointed things to you,
but you refuse to consider them.Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org
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