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  • #165046
    Not3in1
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    Quote (georg @ Oct. 09 2009,08:23)

    Quote (katjo @ Oct. 09 2009,04:05)
    I didnt say He was born on Dec. 25th.


    However keeping His Birthday on the 25 of December, I belief is an abomination to God, since it was Nimrod who was born then.   Question would you for instant like it that they would celebrate your Birthday on Hitlers Birthday?  
    So at least to me it is important that I do know. Do you keep Christmas then on that day?  They way you wrote that Article it sounds like you believe that the first Christians and others believed it was O.K. It is not to me. Since we can prove that He was not born on that date.
    Irene


    I wouldn't care one iota if you celebrated my birthday on Hitler's birthday.  What does that matter in the least?

    And who cares if the date is right or wrong?  Does it really matter?  My sister and I celebrate our birthdays in June although they are in May – because its when we see one another.  Who cares?  We don't.

    The point is that you celebrate!   :)

    Do you celebrate “Christmas” in September then?  Or do you skp it altogether?

    Love,
    Mandy

    #165047
    georg
    Participant

    Quote (katjo @ Oct. 09 2009,14:08)
    my birthday may be the same as Hitlers, who knows! It amazes me how many here dont go to no bible studys, church, but have figured out the bible more than the scholars, ordained preachers who have went to school for years! Huh? Even if the 25th isnt His birthday, (and I know it is not)He knows what the celebration is for. And He knows its all about thanks, love and giving. My church even fills wrapped shoe boxes for little boys and girls who are in need, and we ship them all over the place. WE buy for a boy or a girl and pick the age, and stuff them with small things. Socks, gloves, kids Christian story books, pencils, tooth brushes, combs,shoes, what ever we think could help them out. Now what sin could there be in that?


    All a person needs is Gods Holy Spirit to understand the things of God.  For your information when we figured it out we belonged to the W,W,Church of God.  
    Irene

    #165048
    georg
    Participant

    Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 16 2009,18:21)

    Quote (georg @ Oct. 09 2009,08:23)

    Quote (katjo @ Oct. 09 2009,04:05)
    I didnt say He was born on Dec. 25th.


    However keeping His Birthday on the 25 of December, I belief is an abomination to God, since it was Nimrod who was born then.   Question would you for instant like it that they would celebrate your Birthday on Hitlers Birthday?  
    So at least to me it is important that I do know. Do you keep Christmas then on that day?  They way you wrote that Article it sounds like you believe that the first Christians and others believed it was O.K. It is not to me. Since we can prove that He was not born on that date.
    Irene


    I wouldn't care one iota if you celebrated my birthday on Hitler's birthday.  What does that matter in the least?

    And who cares if the date is right or wrong?  Does it really matter?  My sister and I celebrate our birthdays in June although they are in May – because its when we see one another.  Who cares?  We don't.

    The point is that you celebrate!   :)

    Do you celebrate “Christmas” in September then?  Or do you skp it altogether?

    Love,
    Mandy


    Mandy!  You can celebrate all you want too, Iam putting down the truth and if you want to do what you want to do , that is up to you.  I know that God hates the heathen Holidays,  And I will too. I don't even celebrate my own Birthday.  You simple don't understand all the things that derives from the heathen.  Do yourself a favor and get a Book called”The Two Babylonians.” And study Ancient History. If you care to know.  
    Irene

    #165049
    Douglas
    Participant

    Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 16 2009,18:21)

    Quote (georg @ Oct. 09 2009,08:23)

    Quote (katjo @ Oct. 09 2009,04:05)
    I didnt say He was born on Dec. 25th.


    However keeping His Birthday on the 25 of December, I belief is an abomination to God, since it was Nimrod who was born then.   Question would you for instant like it that they would celebrate your Birthday on Hitlers Birthday?  
    So at least to me it is important that I do know. Do you keep Christmas then on that day?  They way you wrote that Article it sounds like you believe that the first Christians and others believed it was O.K. It is not to me. Since we can prove that He was not born on that date.
    Irene


    I wouldn't care one iota if you celebrated my birthday on Hitler's birthday.  What does that matter in the least?

    And who cares if the date is right or wrong?  Does it really matter?  My sister and I celebrate our birthdays in June although they are in May – because its when we see one another.  Who cares?  We don't.

    The point is that you celebrate!   :)

    Do you celebrate “Christmas” in September then?  Or do you skp it altogether?

    Love,
    Mandy


    Not to mention that the Queen in this country has two birthdays – a real one – and a “state” one.

    Since our entire calendar is based on BC/AD, and the year is most likely not even right, there are more fundamental errors!

    #165050
    Not3in1
    Participant

    Quote (georg @ Oct. 16 2009,18:45)

    Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 16 2009,18:21)

    Quote (georg @ Oct. 09 2009,08:23)

    Quote (katjo @ Oct. 09 2009,04:05)
    I didnt say He was born on Dec. 25th.


    However keeping His Birthday on the 25 of December, I belief is an abomination to God, since it was Nimrod who was born then.   Question would you for instant like it that they would celebrate your Birthday on Hitlers Birthday?  
    So at least to me it is important that I do know. Do you keep Christmas then on that day?  They way you wrote that Article it sounds like you believe that the first Christians and others believed it was O.K. It is not to me. Since we can prove that He was not born on that date.
    Irene


    I wouldn't care one iota if you celebrated my birthday on Hitler's birthday.  What does that matter in the least?

    And who cares if the date is right or wrong?  Does it really matter?  My sister and I celebrate our birthdays in June although they are in May – because its when we see one another.  Who cares?  We don't.

    The point is that you celebrate!   :)

    Do you celebrate “Christmas” in September then?  Or do you skp it altogether?

    Love,
    Mandy


    Mandy!  You can celebrate all you want too, Iam putting down the truth and if you want to do what you want to do , that is up to you.  I know that God hates the heathen Holidays,  And I will too. I don't even celebrate my own Birthday.  You simple don't understand all the things that derives from the heathen.  Do yourself a favor and get a Book clled”The Two Babylonians.” And study Ancient History. If you care to know.  
    Irene


    Sis,

    It sounds like your life is devoid of any celebrations? That is sad. I hope that you are indeed pleasing the Lord by not enjoying fully what God has given you – your life! Why not count and add the years? Celebrate your birthday? Even the characters in the OT kept track of their years…..goodness.

    I think we can overdo anything. In our efforts to please God and follow all the rules, I can't help but wonder if you have robbed yourself of joy that otherwise would have been yours. I dunno. Obviously, follow your heart on this one and I will do the same.

    Love,
    Mandy

    #165051
    georg
    Participant

    Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 16 2009,19:07)

    Quote (georg @ Oct. 16 2009,18:45)

    Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 16 2009,18:21)

    Quote (georg @ Oct. 09 2009,08:23)

    Quote (katjo @ Oct. 09 2009,04:05)
    I didnt say He was born on Dec. 25th.


    However keeping His Birthday on the 25 of December, I belief is an abomination to God, since it was Nimrod who was born then.   Question would you for instant like it that they would celebrate your Birthday on Hitlers Birthday?  
    So at least to me it is important that I do know. Do you keep Christmas then on that day?  They way you wrote that Article it sounds like you believe that the first Christians and others believed it was O.K. It is not to me. Since we can prove that He was not born on that date.
    Irene


    I wouldn't care one iota if you celebrated my birthday on Hitler's birthday.  What does that matter in the least?

    And who cares if the date is right or wrong?  Does it really matter?  My sister and I celebrate our birthdays in June although they are in May – because its when we see one another.  Who cares?  We don't.

    The point is that you celebrate!   :)

    Do you celebrate “Christmas” in September then?  Or do you skp it altogether?

    Love,
    Mandy


    Mandy!  You can celebrate all you want too, Iam putting down the truth and if you want to do what you want to do , that is up to you.  I know that God hates the heathen Holidays,  And I will too. I don't even celebrate my own Birthday.  You simple don't understand all the things that derives from the heathen.  Do yourself a favor and get a Book clled”The Two Babylonians.” And study Ancient History. If you care to know.  
    Irene


    Sis,

    It sounds like your life is devoid of any celebrations?  That is sad.  I hope that you are indeed pleasing the Lord by not enjoying fully what God has given you – your life!  Why not count and add the years?  Celebrate your birthday?  Even the characters in the OT kept track of their years…..goodness.

    I think we can overdo anything.  In our efforts to please God and follow all the rules, I can't help but wonder if you have robbed yourself of joy that otherwise would have been yours.  I dunno.  Obviously, follow your heart on this one and I will do the same.

    Love,
    Mandy


    Mandy! My live is just right. It makes me happy to know that I am doing the things that God likes and not that He hates.
    We celebrate our Anniversary, Thanksgiving. And when we belonged to the W,W,Church of God we kept all of God's Holy Days, which was wonderful. Which none of you who celebrate worldly things would ever understand.
    Constantine sure made a mess of all. The true Christians Suffered horrible be the Roman empires, and they compromised and gave up. That is were it started and it will end with Christ's return. It i said that he whole world has been deceived, I believed. America has never had any war etc, but this time God's wrath will befall them too this time.
    Irene

    #165052
    david
    Participant

    Quote (katjo @ Oct. 10 2009,13:55)
    All Great Scholars, Ordained Preachers, Church's must be wrong than Huh? I dont know a church that doesnt believe in the trinity.


    Then you don't know very many churches.

    #165053
    georg
    Participant

    Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 16 2009,18:17)

    Quote (georg @ Oct. 07 2009,00:54)
    We have had no Tree or any kind of Decoeration since 1984.  Our Family did not like it, but if we don't love Christ more then Mother, Father or Sister of Brother we are not worthy of Christ.  Our Son's were already married at that time, but our Daughter was 1e3 years old and it did hurt Her some


    I bet your daughter celebrates Christmas with a tree now, doesn't she?  Just a guess…..   :;):

    Love,
    Mandy


    Mandy Yes she does, however she told me that she is getting tired of so many things, and told me that we were really happy in the World Wide Church of God. And she said that she wishes we could go back there. But they believe now in the trinity etc. I truly believe that she learned so much there, but since she has a 8 year old boy yet, she is going along with Christmas.
    Irene

    #165005
    theodorej
    Participant

    Quote (katjo @ Oct. 10 2009,13:55)
    All Great Scholars, Ordained Preachers, Church's must be wrong than Huh? I dont know a church that doesnt believe in the trinity.


    Greetings K……Iam sorry to say that a consenses does not a fact make…..Mr Goebles of the third reich fame stated “Tell a Lie long enough and it will assume an aire of truth”…The scholars you speak of thought the earth was flat and the the sun rotated around the earth and the ordained preachers you speak of are parroting the teachings of the universal church no matter how protestant they claim to be…people believe things and they do not know why…in most cases it is not because they know it to be true through diligent study and reason but because they choose to believe because of tradition or repeatition..

    #165004
    theodorej
    Participant

    Greetings Georg…….You are going to get coal this christmas….I applaud your conviction and I share your belief….When I was young and in the first grade I decided to get to the bottom of this Santa Claus nonsense….so I hid out in a closet on the second floor of my home at the time…I saw my uncle joe suiting up to play santa for us kids…well i got caught and got a few chunks of coal….That ticked me off…so when I returned to school I told all the first grade kids that there was no such thing as santa claus….Sister Mary Anastasia smacked the crap out me and called my parents….The moral of the story is this…The story of christmas is a timeless lie that people have decided to make true….If God intended us to celebrate his birthday he would have made it abundantly clear when the birth of the Christ Child was…All indications are it was some time in the fall season……

    #165054
    terraricca
    Participant

    to all
    just one note the scriptures tell us that the liers will not enter the kingdom of God,it also said that the saints were given white robes because there was NO lies on there lips.
    question ;how many lies do you make before you are called a liers ? (think how many lies have been preached throuth out the century's by all those so called (christian )churches)
    please dont said an number it couldbe a lie.

    pr

    #165055
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (katjo @ Oct. 10 2009,13:55)
    All Great Scholars, Ordained Preachers, Church's must be wrong than Huh? I dont know a church that doesnt believe in the trinity.


    Almost all scientific organisations believe in Evolution.

    If you put your trust in man, you will be disappointed.

    God allows people to believe lies, if their heart is not true.

    The god of this age is the Father of lies.

    Don't be surprised at the extent of widespread lies in this world.

    #165056
    georg
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 22 2009,17:44)
    to all
    just one note the scriptures tell us that the liers will not enter the kingdom of God,it also said that the saints were given white robes because there was NO lies on there lips.
    question ;how many lies do you make before you are called a liers ? (think how many lies have been preached throuth out the century's by all those so called (christian )churches)
    please dont said an number it couldbe a lie.

    pr


    That is a good question. But a lie is a lie and that makes you a liar. Once lied, some then lie again to cover the first lie.
    You are right a liar will not enter into the Kingdom of God. We as Christians are to grow into righteousness, like Christ. Let the mind that was in Jesus be in you.
    And if you walk in the Spirit you will not sin. And if we do sin we have a Mediator Jesus Christ to go to the Throne of God and ask for the forgiveness of that sin. As far as the Churches are concerned, in todays world, Church has become a Business. Most Ministers don't want to understand, they would loose their jobs.
    Praise God on High and our Savior Jesus Christ.
    Peace and Love Irene

    #165057
    theodorej
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 22 2009,17:44)
    to all
    just one note the scriptures tell us that the liers will not enter the kingdom of God,it also said that the saints were given white robes because there was NO lies on there lips.
    question ;how many lies do you make before you are called a liers ? (think how many lies have been preached throuth out the century's by all those so called (christian )churches)
    please dont said an number it couldbe a lie.

    pr


    Greetings T Satan is a liar and there is no truth in him…The number of churches that espouse false doctrine are victims of a universal church that went through a strenuous effort to dejudeize the true christian church,which up to the third century held to the statutes laid out in the ten commandments….The sabbath covenant was changed to sunday,The trinity concept was adopted,Gods holy days were changed to coinside with pagan feasts associated with saturnalia and brumalia…there are many more of these changes outlined in a book titled The Two Babylons by Hislop…

    #165058
    georg
    Participant

    Quote (theodorej @ Oct. 26 2009,01:48)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 22 2009,17:44)
    to all
    just one note the scriptures tell us that the liers will not enter the kingdom of God,it also said that the saints were given white robes because there was NO lies on there lips.
    question ;how many lies do you make before you are called a liers ? (think how many lies have been preached throuth out the century's by all those so called (christian )churches)
    please dont said an number it couldbe a lie.

    pr


    Greetings T     Satan is a liar and there is no truth in him…The number of churches that espouse false doctrine are victims of a universal church that went through a strenuous effort to dejudeize the true christian church,which up to the third century held to the statutes laid out in the ten commandments….The sabbath covenant was changed to sunday,The trinity concept was adopted,Gods holy days were changed to coinside with pagan feasts associated with saturnalia and brumalia…there are many more of these changes outlined in a book titled The Two Babylons by Hislop…


    Heh, I got that Book too, and it was that Book that convinced me. Did you read what happened to me, with that Book? If you did, then I will not say it again. I don't remember where I put that Post.
    Peace and Love Irene

    #165059
    terraricca
    Participant

    hi theo
    i have know the book i have own it twice,by Alexander Hislop i believe it was printed in 1941,i think.
    it spells out all the connection and similitude from Bible + catholic church,good .
    there is a other book i enjoyed was “the city of God ” from Augustin.(fifth century)

    #165060
    seekingtruth
    Participant

    I do not believe unknowingly repeating a mistaken idea makes you a liar. As with all the “cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars” most of us have been guilty of a few of these at one point or the other in our lives (as defined by Jesus). I believe that if your life is define by an action, in other words getting drunk once does not make you a drunkered, making a habit of it does, then you meet the criteria of being a “liar”.

    My opinion – Wm

    #165061
    terraricca
    Participant

    hi skt
    i agree with you ,this i believe is falling short,not intentional ,
    and your right there are plenty of other wrong practices to be ad to the liars,
    good quote

    thank you

    #165062

    Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 16 2009,00:07)

    Quote (georg @ Oct. 16 2009,18:45)

    Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 16 2009,18:21)

    Quote (georg @ Oct. 09 2009,08:23)

    Quote (katjo @ Oct. 09 2009,04:05)
    I didnt say He was born on Dec. 25th.


    However keeping His Birthday on the 25 of December, I belief is an abomination to God, since it was Nimrod who was born then.   Question would you for instant like it that they would celebrate your Birthday on Hitlers Birthday?  
    So at least to me it is important that I do know. Do you keep Christmas then on that day?  They way you wrote that Article it sounds like you believe that the first Christians and others believed it was O.K. It is not to me. Since we can prove that He was not born on that date.
    Irene


    I wouldn't care one iota if you celebrated my birthday on Hitler's birthday.  What does that matter in the least?

    And who cares if the date is right or wrong?  Does it really matter?  My sister and I celebrate our birthdays in June although they are in May – because its when we see one another.  Who cares?  We don't.

    The point is that you celebrate!   :)

    Do you celebrate “Christmas” in September then?  Or do you skp it altogether?

    Love,
    Mandy


    Mandy!  You can celebrate all you want too, Iam putting down the truth and if you want to do what you want to do , that is up to you.  I know that God hates the heathen Holidays,  And I will too. I don't even celebrate my own Birthday.  You simple don't understand all the things that derives from the heathen.  Do yourself a favor and get a Book clled”The Two Babylonians.” And study Ancient History. If you care to know.  
    Irene


    Sis,

    It sounds like your life is devoid of any celebrations?  That is sad.  I hope that you are indeed pleasing the Lord by not enjoying fully what God has given you – your life!  Why not count and add the years?  Celebrate your birthday?  Even the characters in the OT kept track of their years…..goodness.

    I think we can overdo anything.  In our efforts to please God and follow all the rules, I can't help but wonder if you have robbed yourself of joy that otherwise would have been yours.  I dunno.  Obviously, follow your heart on this one and I will do the same.

    Love,
    Mandy


    If I only celebrated 'Elohims weekly Sabbath then that would be fifty two celebrations a year!

    Forty eight more than the four pagan ones you uphold.

    So how can it be sad.

    Now if I add 'Elohim's set forth feasts and festivals then it's even more.

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