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i want to be shown scriptures that say jesus ransom did nothing and ment nothing as BOD claims.
i want scriptures that say jesus is just a mere mortal human prophet only and nothnig more.for one he is described as god's son. firstborn of creation. god's only begotten son. as our way to god.
sounds more than a mere mortal human prophet.
actions like that hurt god's feeling and makes him sad.
Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,05:54) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 07 2009,05:23) Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,01:39) if the bible says to not to kill, or to not worship idols or images or other god's or man's ideals yet a religion worships a cross or a statue of mary or supports and sends out one to war in god's name – does that not pertain to a religon then. if they do those things then it is so. if the bible says have faith in christ and accept him as your savior and that his message was that of god's and his actions was that from god, and we are told what his actions that he had done mean to use yet we ignore and reject it, through the belief and teachings of a religon – then that is not what god wants and is not his teachings. they are not in union with god
etc. etc.
do you not listen to yuorself when you think of these questions. some of them are in contempt.
You condemn Christianity with your statements I do notMuslims worship God alone as it is stated:
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
Deuteronomy 6:3-5And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.
Zechariah 14:8-10And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
Mark 12:28-30So I worship ONE Lord and you have a problem with it because you have 2 lords, you say that Jesus is your lord and that God is your lord but then you condemn trinitarians saying they worship 3 but 2 is no greater than 3 for The LORD GOD is ONE LORD.
So when you stop worshiping Jesus then condemn the acts of the CHRISTIAN trinitarians but as long as you worship Jesus you are on no more stable footing.
there is only one true god that is to be worshipped. jesus is to be accepted as our savior, for all things go thru him to god.you use not god's word the holy scriptures but man's words from some human made of dust, muhammad is his name.
you must accept his(jesus) ransom as it says in the bible adn follow his actions as this is what god said thru him.
why do you say worship. why do you put words in my mouth to make you look right.
accepting is not worshipping. i worship god.
never did i say i worship jesus.
you are truely lost
Well, if you do not worship Jesus or call him your lord and you only Worship God then we agree so there is no difficulty between me and you.It is only Who you worship that will provide you with salvation so if you believe in God through Jesus I have no problem with that, God bless you.
Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2009,07:21) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 07 2009,05:15) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 06 2009,19:52) Hi BD,
Can you become more informed by following false prophets?
you should consider Paul a false prophet but you won't
Your charade is over; you twist what the bible does say in order to fit your false beliefs.2Cor.11:14-15 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.You claim to be a Christian, but you reject the power of “the Gospel.”
2Timothy 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
You call the “Apostle Paul” (falsely) a false prophet; Paul is called “an Apostle”.
Gal.1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you
than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.The Apostle Paul was extended the right hand of fellowship by the other Apostles.
Acts 15:4-9 And when they(Paul and Barnabas) were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church,
and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them.
But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying,
That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.
And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.
And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them,
Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us,
that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the HolySpirit,
even as he did unto us; And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.Turn to the Living God, because it’s God(YHVH) who you fight against.
Isaiah 27:4-5 Fury is not in me: who would set the briers and thorns against me in battle?
I would go through them, I would burn them together. Or let him take hold of my strength,
that he may make peace with me; and he shall make peace with me.
You mean like the light Paul saw from heaven? Or the light that you have shown us through the occult practices calling yourself an alter and yet perhaps you are an alter but who do you seek to sacrifice? Do you wish to put the children through the fire of MolechQuote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,10:02) i want to be shown scriptures that say jesus ransom did nothing and ment nothing as BOD claims.
i want scriptures that say jesus is just a mere mortal human prophet only and nothnig more.for one he is described as god's son. firstborn of creation. god's only begotten son. as our way to god.
sounds more than a mere mortal human prophet.
actions like that hurt god's feeling and makes him sad.
John 4:43-45 (King James Version)43Now after two days he departed thence, and went into Galilee.
44For Jesus himself testified, that a prophet hath no honour in his own country.
Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 07 2009,11:05) Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,10:02) i want to be shown scriptures that say jesus ransom did nothing and ment nothing as BOD claims.
i want scriptures that say jesus is just a mere mortal human prophet only and nothnig more.for one he is described as god's son. firstborn of creation. god's only begotten son. as our way to god.
sounds more than a mere mortal human prophet.
actions like that hurt god's feeling and makes him sad.
John 4:43-45 (King James Version)43Now after two days he departed thence, and went into Galilee.
44For Jesus himself testified, that a prophet hath no honour in his own country.
Hi BD,What does the verse you quoted have to do with her question?
i truely mean no disrespect. now regarding scriptures quoted from the bible, they truely need to be in context to topic. the scriptures need to actually tell and show those words in it that talk about a topic. if you use a s scripture that says sacrifice is not needed to god, but doesn;t pertain to anything at all to jesus ransom sacrifice to man is not relevant or even talking about jesus and what he had gone through for us. and what it did for us. it could be talking about anything for there is no reference to him and his ordeals.
as i am in discussion in another topic i forget who it is with but they are saying that jesus did not exsist before being sent forth on earth through god's wiil. that jesus wasn't anything until that moment in mary's womb.
however when scriptures say that jesus said he was beside god before the earth and heavens were created and that he is the firstborn of creation and god created all thru him, and that he was a master craftsman.
he then tells me jesus was only a plan or thought or idea and not a actual spirit being as the other angels in god's heavenly kingdom.
all i know is what the bible says i didn't make it up. they had too, to say that all those things by saying its telling him that jesus was a idea. to say i am speculating that jesus was in heaven before on earth. fyi the bible tells us so
an idea canbot be beside god, an idea ccannot be a master craftsman. a idea cannot be a firstborn creation and thus having created things.
Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2009,11:52) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 07 2009,11:05) Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,10:02) i want to be shown scriptures that say jesus ransom did nothing and ment nothing as BOD claims.
i want scriptures that say jesus is just a mere mortal human prophet only and nothnig more.for one he is described as god's son. firstborn of creation. god's only begotten son. as our way to god.
sounds more than a mere mortal human prophet.
actions like that hurt god's feeling and makes him sad.
John 4:43-45 (King James Version)43Now after two days he departed thence, and went into Galilee.
44For Jesus himself testified, that a prophet hath no honour in his own country.
Hi BD,What does the verse you quoted have to do with her question?
He seemed to think of himself simply as a Prophet and a human beingQuote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 07 2009,13:57) He seemed to think of himself simply as a Prophet and a human being
Hi BD,Jesus was "a Prophet"(Luke 3:31), "a Priest"(Luke 1:5),
but the most important of all these, the "Son of GOD"(HolySpirit) (Matt.1:18 / Luke 1:35)!Science suggests that blood in the fetus comes from the father’s genetics.
That would mean “Jesus” had “GOD Blood” running through his veins.
To put this in scientific terms (according to facts written in the Bible),
that would mean Jesus at his birth was ½ HOLYSPIRIT(Jesus’ FATHER Matt.1:18),
¼ from the tribe JUDAH (Mary’s Father’s tribe Luke 3:23-33)
and ¼ from the tribe of LEVI (Mary’s Mother’s tribe Luke 1:5).
That would make Jesus "a Prophet"(Luke 3:31), "a Priest"(Luke 1:5),
but the most important of all these, the "Son of GOD"(Matt.1:18)!If “Jesus” did not die (as you falsely believe) for your sins and “God The Father” did Not
(as you falsely believe) raise Jesus back from the dead, then you are still in your sins.It's the shedding of his “God blood”=74 that removes sin(Heb.9:22).
“GOD The Father” raised “Jesus”=74 back from the dead; for our Justification(Rom.4:25).
Quit your folly; turn to the Living God.Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2009,14:32) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 07 2009,13:57) He seemed to think of himself simply as a Prophet and a human being
Hi BD,Jesus was "a Prophet"(Luke 3:31), "a Priest"(Luke 1:5),
but the most important of all these, the "Son of GOD"(HolySpirit) (Matt.1:18 / Luke 1:35)!Science suggests that blood in the fetus comes from the father’s genetics.
That would mean “Jesus” had “GOD Blood” running through his veins.
To put this in scientific terms (according to facts written in the Bible),
that would mean Jesus at his birth was ½ HOLYSPIRIT(Jesus’ FATHER Matt.1:18),
¼ from the tribe JUDAH (Mary’s Father’s tribe Luke 3:23-33)
and ¼ from the tribe of LEVI (Mary’s Mother’s tribe Luke 1:5).
That would make Jesus "a Prophet"(Luke 3:31), "a Priest"(Luke 1:5),
but the most important of all these, the "Son of GOD"(Matt.1:18)!If “Jesus” did not die (as you falsely believe) for your sins and “God The Father” did Not
(as you falsely believe) raise Jesus back from the dead, then you are still in your sins.It's the shedding of his “God blood”=74 that removes sin(Heb.9:22).
“GOD The Father” raised “Jesus”=74 back from the dead; for our Justification(Rom.4:25).
Quit your folly; turn to the Living God.
No one can repent without the death and resurrection of Jesus?How do I know "God blood" = 74 is not "Satan's"=74 you did say that Satan was the God of this world.
Please witness help me find the truth because you said "Lucifer"=74 and "Jesus" =74
Tell me what does it all mean?
Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,13:57) i truely mean no disrespect. now regarding scriptures quoted from the bible, they truely need to be in context to topic. the scriptures need to actually tell and show those words in it that talk about a topic. if you use a s scripture that says sacrifice is not needed to god, but doesn;t pertain to anything at all to jesus ransom sacrifice to man is not relevant or even talking about jesus and what he had gone through for us. and what it did for us. it could be talking about anything for there is no reference to him and his ordeals. as i am in discussion in another topic i forget who it is with but they are saying that jesus did not exsist before being sent forth on earth through god's wiil. that jesus wasn't anything until that moment in mary's womb.
however when scriptures say that jesus said he was beside god before the earth and heavens were created and that he is the firstborn of creation and god created all thru him, and that he was a master craftsman.
he then tells me jesus was only a plan or thought or idea and not a actual spirit being as the other angels in god's heavenly kingdom.
all i know is what the bible says i didn't make it up. they had too, to say that all those things by saying its telling him that jesus was a idea. to say i am speculating that jesus was in heaven before on earth. fyi the bible tells us so
an idea canbot be beside god, an idea ccannot be a master craftsman. a idea cannot be a firstborn creation and thus having created things.
Can wisdom be called "she"?Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 07 2009,15:13) No one can repent without the death and resurrection of Jesus? How do I know "God blood" = 74 is not "Satan's"=74 you did say that Satan was the God of this world.
Please witness help me find the truth because you said "Lucifer"=74 and "Jesus" =74
Tell me what does it all mean?
Hi BD,Read chapters 7, 8, 10 and 11 in the free e-book called "HolyCityBibleCode"; it's all in the book.
Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2009,15:20) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 07 2009,15:13) No one can repent without the death and resurrection of Jesus? How do I know "God blood" = 74 is not "Satan's"=74 you did say that Satan was the God of this world.
Please witness help me find the truth because you said "Lucifer"=74 and "Jesus" =74
Tell me what does it all mean?
Hi BD,Read chapters 7, 8, 10 and 11 in the free e-book called "HolyCityBibleCode"; it's all in the book.
I've read the book of numbers already but some of what you wrote is never really explained how does 222 get a bad name?Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 07 2009,15:14) Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,13:57) i truely mean no disrespect. now regarding scriptures quoted from the bible, they truely need to be in context to topic. the scriptures need to actually tell and show those words in it that talk about a topic. if you use a s scripture that says sacrifice is not needed to god, but doesn;t pertain to anything at all to jesus ransom sacrifice to man is not relevant or even talking about jesus and what he had gone through for us. and what it did for us. it could be talking about anything for there is no reference to him and his ordeals. as i am in discussion in another topic i forget who it is with but they are saying that jesus did not exsist before being sent forth on earth through god's wiil. that jesus wasn't anything until that moment in mary's womb.
however when scriptures say that jesus said he was beside god before the earth and heavens were created and that he is the firstborn of creation and god created all thru him, and that he was a master craftsman.
he then tells me jesus was only a plan or thought or idea and not a actual spirit being as the other angels in god's heavenly kingdom.
all i know is what the bible says i didn't make it up. they had too, to say that all those things by saying its telling him that jesus was a idea. to say i am speculating that jesus was in heaven before on earth. fyi the bible tells us so
an idea canbot be beside god, an idea ccannot be a master craftsman. a idea cannot be a firstborn creation and thus having created things.
Can wisdom be called "she"?
what are you talking about?i got one
can the color blue be called a she??your losing it i think?
Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,16:38) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 07 2009,15:14) Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,13:57) i truely mean no disrespect. now regarding scriptures quoted from the bible, they truely need to be in context to topic. the scriptures need to actually tell and show those words in it that talk about a topic. if you use a s scripture that says sacrifice is not needed to god, but doesn;t pertain to anything at all to jesus ransom sacrifice to man is not relevant or even talking about jesus and what he had gone through for us. and what it did for us. it could be talking about anything for there is no reference to him and his ordeals. as i am in discussion in another topic i forget who it is with but they are saying that jesus did not exsist before being sent forth on earth through god's wiil. that jesus wasn't anything until that moment in mary's womb.
however when scriptures say that jesus said he was beside god before the earth and heavens were created and that he is the firstborn of creation and god created all thru him, and that he was a master craftsman.
he then tells me jesus was only a plan or thought or idea and not a actual spirit being as the other angels in god's heavenly kingdom.
all i know is what the bible says i didn't make it up. they had too, to say that all those things by saying its telling him that jesus was a idea. to say i am speculating that jesus was in heaven before on earth. fyi the bible tells us so
an idea canbot be beside god, an idea ccannot be a master craftsman. a idea cannot be a firstborn creation and thus having created things.
Can wisdom be called "she"?
what are you talking about?i got one
can the color blue be called a she??your losing it i think?
God calls wisdom she? Is this about Jesus?Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 07 2009,16:45) Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,16:38) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 07 2009,15:14) Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,13:57) i truely mean no disrespect. now regarding scriptures quoted from the bible, they truely need to be in context to topic. the scriptures need to actually tell and show those words in it that talk about a topic. if you use a s scripture that says sacrifice is not needed to god, but doesn;t pertain to anything at all to jesus ransom sacrifice to man is not relevant or even talking about jesus and what he had gone through for us. and what it did for us. it could be talking about anything for there is no reference to him and his ordeals. as i am in discussion in another topic i forget who it is with but they are saying that jesus did not exsist before being sent forth on earth through god's wiil. that jesus wasn't anything until that moment in mary's womb.
however when scriptures say that jesus said he was beside god before the earth and heavens were created and that he is the firstborn of creation and god created all thru him, and that he was a master craftsman.
he then tells me jesus was only a plan or thought or idea and not a actual spirit being as the other angels in god's heavenly kingdom.
all i know is what the bible says i didn't make it up. they had too, to say that all those things by saying its telling him that jesus was a idea. to say i am speculating that jesus was in heaven before on earth. fyi the bible tells us so
an idea canbot be beside god, an idea ccannot be a master craftsman. a idea cannot be a firstborn creation and thus having created things.
Can wisdom be called "she"?
what are you talking about?i got one
can the color blue be called a she??your losing it i think?
God calls wisdom she? Is this about Jesus?
you copied my quote from me then you ask questions tht go where to what was said?you lost me , i know its nothing to do with topic, just a lead to more trying to disprove god of the holy scriptures and to demean jesus and god
you do not use scriptures talking about jesus ransom and its meaning and purpose.
so you speak of nothing to add to the discussion.
matthew 20:28 – just as the son of man did not come to be served but to serve and to give his life a ranson for many.
wow look at that i used acrpiture that pertains to the topic, not very hard to do unless you have no truth to your own belief.
ephesians 1:7 – in him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins according to the riches of his grace.
look at that another. wow.
1 timothy 2:5,6 – for there is one god and one mediator between god and men, jesus christ who gve himself a ransom for all
wow look BOD notice i use scriptures that actually talk about our topic
1 john 4:9,10 – in this love of god was manifested toward us, that god has sent his only begotten son into the world tht we might live through him. in this is love, not that we loved god but that he loved us and sent his son to be the propitation for our sins.
again BOD this scripture is in reference to topic tallks about the topic in specific words.
hebrews 10:10 – by that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of christ once for all
colosians 1 :13,14 – he has delivered us from the power of darkness and conveyed us into the kingdom of the son of his love . in whom we have redemption through hid blood, the forgiveness of sins
hebrews 9:14 – how much more shall the blood of christ, who through the eternal spirit offered himself without a spot to god
so, really i don't know nothing huh, 4 months so that must mean i'm stupid huh. look at those scriptures and read tehm for what they are. they are the truth to this topic.
all scriptures talk about jesus, his ransom and what it did for us. nothing else. they are not some off topic scriptures with no reference or topical meaning as yours do.
looks like it has been a good 4 months, god giving me his holy spirit to find and understand his word, i have been praying every night for just that for the whole 4 months
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