What religions are you posters? curious

[Constitutionalist]

Quote (princess of the king @ Nov. 28 2009,06:09)

Quote (Constitutionalist @ Nov. 28 2009,20:10) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 27 2009,23:37) Hi CON, Are really we all part of the same religion by different names? No you are confused with the popular worship of the god of this world. The road is narrow and few choose it but false ways abound. So now you say I worship the devil, because I do not profess hatred to those who believe different than I do. I believe we are through with each other Nick, have a nice life. Blessings Ron, i stand in agreement with you, revelation does not mention one church, seven are mentioned. with this warning, our sound minds should be able to recognize this. funny, you have had, 'by the way my name is ron' on your signature for a long time now, have been waiting for someone to address you as such, hasn't happened yet. i tend to believe people get so involved in the larger that they think the smaller is too great for them. much love to you and 'rose'

l'chaim princess of the king,

I am not departing. I am finished with Nick Hassan, I have had the pleasure with many like him, if I am not with him then I am against him attitude. And since he thinks I am against him then he thinks of me as a devil. I draw suspect in those who decide whom my friends can or cannot be.

It is a blessing to hear from you again, dont be such a stranger.

[NickHassan]

Hi CON,
You have a fine imagination.
You can read the thoughts of others?
Questions to you are really condemnations?

You offer many good things here and should not read too much into questions.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Constitutionalist @ Nov. 28 2009,20:10)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 27 2009,23:37) Hi CON, Are really we all part of the same religion by different names? No you are confused with the popular worship of the god of this world. The road is narrow and few choose it but false ways abound. So now you say I worship the devil, because I do not profess hatred to those who believe different than I do. I believe we are through with each other Nick, have a nice life.

No Con,

Don't be through with nick because those comments he makes are all being recorded, exposing the truth of his true belief which is that of the accuser and the uninformed.

We need for him to communicate as much as possible so that truth can can stand out far from error.

[peace2all]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 29 2009,05:48)

Quote (Constitutionalist @ Nov. 28 2009,20:10) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 27 2009,23:37) Hi CON, Are really we all part of the same religion by different names? No you are confused with the popular worship of the god of this world. The road is narrow and few choose it but false ways abound. So now you say I worship the devil, because I do not profess hatred to those who believe different than I do. I believe we are through with each other Nick, have a nice life. No Con, Don't be through with nick because those comments he makes are all being recorded, exposing the truth of his true belief which is that of the accuser and the uninformed. We need for him to communicate as much as possible so that truth can can stand out far from error.

Nick is correct. the bible clearly show this that not all religions are the way. He is not calling you the devil but god does say that the devil will mislead you. no need to ignore or disprove gods good news to save face.

Do you people care to really want a better understanding of gods good news or just to deny and try to disprove gods word.
i shall give you some scriptures and examples so you see whats been mentioned about said topic in the bible, so lets stick to that and not start defending it with scriptures that do not mention or pertain to said topic.

when jesus was alive there were pharisees who had built up a religous system and thought they were in line with gods approval yet they were trying to kill jesus at he same time.

john 8:43-47

matthew 23:13 / matthew 23:25-33

matthew 7: 13,14

deuteronomy 7:25

leviticus 18:20-30
joshua 24:20
isiah 63:10
2 coribthians 4:2-6
revelation 12:9
revelation 17:1,2,16
roamns3:3,4
matthew 15:1-9
isaiah 29:13
matthew 7:21-23
acts 17:10,11
2 timothy 3:16
john 16:2acts2;36,40
proverbs 14:12
galations 1:13,14
acts 8:1 , 9:1,2
roamns 10:2,3
james 2:26
john 4:24
2 peter 3;13

god states that we are to stay away from unclean things and mans false teachings and those things detestable to god.

The bible does not teach nor endorse the TRINITY doctrine at any point. yet it is in practicaly every religion
.
god says not to worship false idols or icons or images – yet there are religions tht do so with the cross or mary or other figures.

the bible states do not call any person FATHER(religous person) yet there are religions that do.

god says stay away from destestable things and false wroship. yet the pagan rituals and beliefs are used in many religions or accepted. EX : holidays, they are all religous pagan solstice. that is DESTABLE to GOD.

there are religions that endorse and bless and back WAR. that is wrong and god is not with them i assure you.

i'm sure i caould come u pwit hmore but its getting long and you wil have plenty of scriptures to read. not mans ideas but gods good news.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 06 2009,05:31)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 29 2009,05:48) Quote (Constitutionalist @ Nov. 28 2009,20:10) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 27 2009,23:37) Hi CON, Are really we all part of the same religion by different names? No you are confused with the popular worship of the god of this world. The road is narrow and few choose it but false ways abound. So now you say I worship the devil, because I do not profess hatred to those who believe different than I do. I believe we are through with each other Nick, have a nice life. No Con, Don't be through with nick because those comments he makes are all being recorded, exposing the truth of his true belief which is that of the accuser and the uninformed. We need for him to communicate as much as possible so that truth can can stand out far from error. Nick is correct. the bible clearly show this that not all religions are the way. He is not calling you the devil but god does say that the devil will mislead you. no need to ignore or disprove gods good news to save face. Do you people care to really want a better understanding of gods good news or just to deny and try to disprove gods word. i shall give you some scriptures and examples so you see whats been mentioned about said topic in the bible, so lets stick to that and not start defending it with scriptures that do not mention or pertain to said topic. when jesus was alive there were pharisees who had built up a religous system and thought they were in line with gods approval yet they were trying to kill jesus at he same time. john 8:43-47 matthew 23:13 / matthew 23:25-33 matthew 7: 13,14 deuteronomy 7:25 leviticus 18:20-30 joshua 24:20 isiah 63:10 2 coribthians 4:2-6 revelation 12:9 revelation 17:1,2,16 roamns3:3,4 matthew 15:1-9 isaiah 29:13 matthew 7:21-23 acts 17:10,11 2 timothy 3:16 john 16:2acts2;36,40 proverbs 14:12 galations 1:13,14 acts 8:1 , 9:1,2 roamns 10:2,3 james 2:26 john 4:24 2 peter 3;13 god states that we are to stay away from unclean things and mans false teachings and those things detestable to god. The bible does not teach nor endorse the TRINITY doctrine at any point. yet it is in practicaly every religion . god says not to worship false idols or icons or images – yet there are religions tht do so with the cross or mary or other figures. the bible states do not call any person FATHER(religous person) yet there are religions that do. god says stay away from destestable things and false wroship. yet the pagan rituals and beliefs are used in many religions or accepted. EX : holidays, they are all religous pagan solstice. that is DESTABLE to GOD. there are religions that endorse and bless and back WAR. that is wrong and god is not with them i assure you. i'm sure i caould come u pwit hmore but its getting long and you wil have plenty of scriptures to read. not mans ideas but gods good news.

where does the bible talk about religions?

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
Can you become more informed by following false prophets?

[peace2all]

BOD are you for real??

if a certain religion is doing those things then one must not take that course. if it says do not worship other gods but only the father the god almighty. yet a certain religion does worship many gods, does it not pettain then to it.

yes it does.

one can't make you read the scriptures, one cannot force you to believe.God had sent his son to convey is word its up to you to do so with spiritual works and by not listening to his whole word then one cannot being in union with god

you cannot be in union with god yet do the things of the world.

there are scriptures there to xplain it to you.

you offer no defense to your cause.

you can't , so there you go and try to disprove god's word.

i would be certain that i would not be included in his grand plan for not listening to his warning.

[peace2all]

if the bible says to not to kill, or to not worship idols or images or other god's or man's ideals yet a religion worships a cross or a statue of mary or supports and sends out one to war in god's name – does that not pertain to a religon then. if they do those things then it is so.

if the bible says have faith in christ and accept him as your savior and that his message was that of god's and his actions was that from god, and we are told what his actions that he had done mean to use yet we ignore and reject it, through the belief and teachings of a religon – then that is not what god wants and is not his teachings. they are not in union with god

etc. etc.

do you not listen to yuorself when you think of these questions. some of them are in contempt.

[peace2all]

Quote (Tim Kraft @ Nov. 29 2009,01:06)

Nick: I was wondering if you knew who is was in the Bible that did all the finger pointing?  Do you know who it is in the Bible that is the accuser of the bretherin? Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets. There is a wide gate that leeds to destruction and a narrow gate that leeds to eternal life. To me that mean the masses or majority of seekers will pass through the wide gate. If you think you know all the truth then you are full and cannot find any more truth. Its only through questions from different viewpoints that will create different perceptions of the truth and finally will create the beliefs of eternal life. Anger worketh not the love of God. Lets all search peaceably together. Love to all, TK Con and Bod, please don't leave this site!!!

its the point that they do not accept what is proven. to only deny, reject and continue to try to disprove god's own words in the bible is just wrong.

like i said before, if one produces scriptures that actually pertain to a topic at hand use those. don't use scriptures that do not reference or pertain to topic.

using a word or two from one scripture then offering another that has a word in it then cut and pasting those few words togther to fit your own idea is not how to use the bible.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 06 2009,19:52)

Hi BD, Can you become more informed by following false prophets?

Jesus said if anyone says they saw him here or there that person is a false prophet

And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:
Mark 13:20-22

Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
Matthew 24:22-24

now according to those words out of the mouth of Jesus himself you should consider Paul a false prophet but you won't

Mark 13
23But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.

Acts 9:3-5 (King James Version)

3And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:

4And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

5And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

Acts 22:6-8 (King James Version)

6And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me.

7And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

8And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest

Acts 26:13-15 (King James Version)

13At midday, O king, I saw in the way a light from heaven, above the brightness of the sun, shining round about me and them which journeyed with me.

14And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

15And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest.

Nick,

Can you become more informed by following false prophets?

Now I don't have to believe that Paul is a false prophet but I say it according to your measuring

Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment, in meteyard, in weight, or in measure.
Leviticus 19:34-36

For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Matthew 7:1-3

[bodhitharta]

Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,01:39)

if the bible says to not to kill, or to not worship idols or images or other god's or man's ideals yet a religion worships a cross or a statue of mary or supports and sends out one to war in god's name – does that not pertain to a religon then. if they do those things then it is so. if the bible says have faith in christ and accept him as your savior and that his message was that of god's and his actions was that from god, and we are told what his actions that he had done mean to use yet we ignore and reject it, through the belief and teachings of a religon – then that is not what god wants and is not his teachings. they are not in union with god etc. etc. do you not listen to yuorself when you think of these questions. some of them are in  contempt.

You condemn Christianity with your statements I do not

Muslims worship God alone as it is stated:

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
Deuteronomy 6:3-5

And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.
Zechariah 14:8-10

And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
Mark 12:28-30

So I worship ONE Lord and you have a problem with it because you have 2 lords, you say that Jesus is your lord and that God is your lord but then you condemn trinitarians saying they worship 3 but 2 is no greater than 3 for The LORD GOD is ONE LORD.

So when you stop worshiping Jesus then condemn the acts of the CHRISTIAN trinitarians but as long as you worship Jesus you are on no more stable footing.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,01:43)

Quote (Tim Kraft @ Nov. 29 2009,01:06) Nick: I was wondering if you knew who is was in the Bible that did all the finger pointing?  Do you know who it is in the Bible that is the accuser of the bretherin? Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets. There is a wide gate that leeds to destruction and a narrow gate that leeds to eternal life. To me that mean the masses or majority of seekers will pass through the wide gate. If you think you know all the truth then you are full and cannot find any more truth. Its only through questions from different viewpoints that will create different perceptions of the truth and finally will create the beliefs of eternal life. Anger worketh not the love of God. Lets all search peaceably together. Love to all, TK Con and Bod, please don't leave this site!!! its the point that they do not accept what is proven.  to only deny, reject and continue to try to disprove god's own words in the bible is just wrong. like i said before, if one produces scriptures that actually pertain to a topic at hand use those. don't use scriptures that do not reference or pertain to topic. using a word or two from one scripture then offering another that has a word in it then cut and pasting those few words togther to fit your own idea is not how to use the bible.

How is the bible supposed to be used?

[peace2all]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 07 2009,05:23)

Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,01:39) if the bible says to not to kill, or to not worship idols or images or other god's or man's ideals yet a religion worships a cross or a statue of mary or supports and sends out one to war in god's name – does that not pertain to a religon then. if they do those things then it is so. if the bible says have faith in christ and accept him as your savior and that his message was that of god's and his actions was that from god, and we are told what his actions that he had done mean to use yet we ignore and reject it, through the belief and teachings of a religon – then that is not what god wants and is not his teachings. they are not in union with god etc. etc. do you not listen to yuorself when you think of these questions. some of them are in  contempt. You condemn Christianity with your statements I do not Muslims worship God alone as it is stated: Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: Deuteronomy 6:3-5 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one. Zechariah 14:8-10 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: Mark 12:28-30 So I worship ONE Lord and you have a problem with it because you have 2 lords, you say that Jesus is your lord and that God is your lord but then you condemn trinitarians saying they worship 3 but 2 is no greater than 3 for The LORD GOD is ONE LORD. So when you stop worshiping Jesus then condemn the acts of the CHRISTIAN trinitarians but as long as you worship Jesus you are on no more stable footing.

there is only one true god that is to be worshipped. jesus is to be accepted as our savior, for all things go thru him to god.

you use not god's word the holy scriptures but man's words from some human made of dust, muhammad is his name.

you must accept his(jesus) ransom as it says in the bible adn follow his actions as this is what god said thru him.

why do you say worship. why do you put words in my mouth to make you look right.

accepting is not worshipping. i worship god.
never did i say i worship jesus.
you are truely lost

[peace2all]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 07 2009,05:26)

Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,01:43) Quote (Tim Kraft @ Nov. 29 2009,01:06) Nick: I was wondering if you knew who is was in the Bible that did all the finger pointing?  Do you know who it is in the Bible that is the accuser of the bretherin? Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets. There is a wide gate that leeds to destruction and a narrow gate that leeds to eternal life. To me that mean the masses or majority of seekers will pass through the wide gate. If you think you know all the truth then you are full and cannot find any more truth. Its only through questions from different viewpoints that will create different perceptions of the truth and finally will create the beliefs of eternal life. Anger worketh not the love of God. Lets all search peaceably together. Love to all, TK Con and Bod, please don't leave this site!!! its the point that they do not accept what is proven.  to only deny, reject and continue to try to disprove god's own words in the bible is just wrong. like i said before, if one produces scriptures that actually pertain to a topic at hand use those. don't use scriptures that do not reference or pertain to topic. using a word or two from one scripture then offering another that has a word in it then cut and pasting those few words togther to fit your own idea is not how to use the bible. How is the bible supposed to be used?

its called use scriptures that actually pertain to a certain subject or topic. that includes words that speek of what is being discussed. if you talk about something make sure the scripture is talking about just that, the subject at hand.

are you kidding me.

would you talk about lions eating habits, but use books or subjects that talk about elephants only or a lions sleeping habits.

do you not really understand?

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 07 2009,05:15)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 06 2009,19:52) Hi BD, Can you become more informed by following false prophets? you should consider Paul a false prophet but you won't

Your charade is over; you twist what the bible does say in order to fit your false beliefs.

2Cor.11:14-15 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

You claim to be a Christian, but you reject the power of “the Gospel.”

2Timothy 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

You call the “Apostle Paul” (falsely) a false prophet; Paul is called “an Apostle”.

Gal.1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you
than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

The Apostle Paul was extended the right hand of fellowship by the other Apostles.

Acts 15:4-9 And when they(Paul and Barnabas) were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church,
and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them.
But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying,
That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.
And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.
And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them,
Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us,
that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the HolySpirit,
even as he did unto us; And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

Turn to the Living God, because it’s God(YHVH) who you fight against.

Isaiah 27:4-5 Fury is not in me: who would set the briers and thorns against me in battle?
I would go through them, I would burn them together. Or let him take hold of my strength,
that he may make peace with me; and he shall make peace with me.

[NickHassan]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 07 2009,05:26)

Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,01:43) Quote (Tim Kraft @ Nov. 29 2009,01:06) Nick: I was wondering if you knew who is was in the Bible that did all the finger pointing?  Do you know who it is in the Bible that is the accuser of the bretherin? Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets. There is a wide gate that leeds to destruction and a narrow gate that leeds to eternal life. To me that mean the masses or majority of seekers will pass through the wide gate. If you think you know all the truth then you are full and cannot find any more truth. Its only through questions from different viewpoints that will create different perceptions of the truth and finally will create the beliefs of eternal life. Anger worketh not the love of God. Lets all search peaceably together. Love to all, TK Con and Bod, please don't leave this site!!! its the point that they do not accept what is proven.  to only deny, reject and continue to try to disprove god's own words in the bible is just wrong. like i said before, if one produces scriptures that actually pertain to a topic at hand use those. don't use scriptures that do not reference or pertain to topic. using a word or two from one scripture then offering another that has a word in it then cut and pasting those few words togther to fit your own idea is not how to use the bible. How is the bible supposed to be used?

Hi BD,
We are not to use the bible.
The Spirit of the Word is to use us.

[peace2all]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 07 2009,07:23)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 07 2009,05:26) Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 07 2009,01:43) Quote (Tim Kraft @ Nov. 29 2009,01:06) Nick: I was wondering if you knew who is was in the Bible that did all the finger pointing?  Do you know who it is in the Bible that is the accuser of the bretherin? Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets. There is a wide gate that leeds to destruction and a narrow gate that leeds to eternal life. To me that mean the masses or majority of seekers will pass through the wide gate. If you think you know all the truth then you are full and cannot find any more truth. Its only through questions from different viewpoints that will create different perceptions of the truth and finally will create the beliefs of eternal life. Anger worketh not the love of God. Lets all search peaceably together. Love to all, TK Con and Bod, please don't leave this site!!! its the point that they do not accept what is proven.  to only deny, reject and continue to try to disprove god's own words in the bible is just wrong. like i said before, if one produces scriptures that actually pertain to a topic at hand use those. don't use scriptures that do not reference or pertain to topic. using a word or two from one scripture then offering another that has a word in it then cut and pasting those few words togther to fit your own idea is not how to use the bible. How is the bible supposed to be used? Hi BD, We are not to use the bible. The Spirit of the Word is to use us.

the bible explains much. it has many answers. if you as a man distort, and twist and cut and paste cetain things to one way is not the same as finding the truth when it is there to be read in full in detail. if you read something in the bible and it shows a answer, don't ignore. don't call god a lier, don't try to want to disprove him. you cannot disprove the author for he knows what he said and has answered.

[peace2all]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2009,07:21)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 07 2009,05:15) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 06 2009,19:52) Hi BD, Can you become more informed by following false prophets? you should consider Paul a false prophet but you won't Your charade is over; you twist what the bible does say in order to fit your false beliefs. 2Cor.11:14-15 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. You claim to be a Christian, but you reject the power of “the Gospel.” 2Timothy 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. You call the “Apostle Paul” (falsely) a false prophet; Paul is called “an Apostle”. Gal.1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. The Apostle Paul was extended the right hand of fellowship by the other Apostles. Acts 15:4-9 And when they(Paul and Barnabas) were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church, and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them. But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter. And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe. And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the HolySpirit, even as he did unto us; And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. Turn to the Living God, because it’s God(YHVH) who you fight against. Isaiah 27:4-5 Fury is not in me: who would set the briers and thorns against me in battle? I would go through them, I would burn them together. Or let him take hold of my strength, that he may make peace with me; and he shall make peace with me.

ED i think BOD is a muslim not christian. only non belivers will call god a lier and try to disprove his word

[Ed J]

Quote (Constitutionalist @ Nov. 28 2009,17:05)

Quote (peace2all @ Nov. 27 2009,08:17) Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 27 2009,19:56) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 27 2009,11:52) Hi BD, Aginst you, no against your false god and false teachings. There is only one true God so why do you think you know another? We believe in the same God and there is no other, abandon your contempt for me and may God bless you with peace. if you did you would stop ignoring and trying to find a way to disprove a question answered in detail woth no room left for it. Peace2all, then help bodhitharta prove his point. Seems everyone is wrapped up in trying to destroy bodhitharta's way of life, and beliefs, instead of trying to see how much alike we are and seeking to see the commonalities within the two beliefs. By doing this way we may understand the things that seperate. Which would be far more beneficial to all. Seems to me you all give the appearence of children fighting over the rules of a game because you all think you own the ball.

Hi Con,

Prov.14:15 The simple believeth every word: but the prudent man looketh well to his going.

Prov.8:12 I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[peace2all]

CON i have mentioned the similarities or certain things tht are held by us. but when you have a discussion and they do nothing but call god a lier and try to disprove everything even when the answer is given is what has been done.

i don't think i am only right. i'm not right, god is right. i use scriptures when talking about a subject not my interpretaion.

i use scriptures that actually have the topic in the verse used in discussion. the reference of topic and actual explanation of topic is in the actual versus. how one can ignore then use scriptures not pertaining to the actual topic by not mentioning anything can can put a stamp on it as to being related to topic is plain foolish.

if one still ignores and tries to disprove god thus calling god a lier is not my doing and is not me tearing him down for his belief.
it is he alone and the things he proclaims.

like ive said, and is fact muslims adhere to the quran over the holy scriptures. they adhere muhammad over jesus. they do by saying all in quran is good and then only accepting a few scriptures which are the ones only to fit there ways. you have to use the whole thing.

one who believes will not put down jesus as nothing but a mere mortal man who was a prophet only. the bible clearly says the opposite.
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thinking that if in fact they say was given to muhammad by god, do you think god would make a book after the fact and say the opposite of what he said. would he call his son just some guy he sent as they try to cast him. with jesus having really no impact on anything.
would god then thus be calling himself a lier. thats what they do.

jesus is just a man but muhammad is this great prophet frm god and he wrote this book and we shall hold it up high but jesus teaching and the other scriptures in the holy book are ok, we will use some of it but we use all the quran it completely right.

the representation that the quran and muhammad as being more important than to jesus and god's good news the holy scriptures is disgusting to say the least.

if you talk about the ransom of christ and what is did and means to us. you better show scriptures that have those exact words in it describing your view , in turn with one way or another

using a scripture that talks about how jesus taught this or that action is no longer needed, etc. is not in any way talking about the topic if you have to use your own interpretaion, becasue the scripture yuo use is not related to the actual topic. you talk about why and how and what the ransom is or did you better put scriptures that say jesus did not need to do it yet he did anyway or jesus is just a mere human prphet and nothing else because anything else short of that is nothing.

when you are shown scriptures that actual do hold all those key elements and the message is crystal clear becasue it is answering that exact thing then that proof not interpretaion or speculation

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