What is the beast

[terraricca]

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And when the false prophet comes, he will be one nasty beast, and his armies no doubt high tech, a reflection of his miracles that he does, and organized like their leaders wonderful words, and understanding dark schemes, not only politically, but also in their military tactics, and strong, and proud, and fast and terrible….almost invincible like a Dragon.

thanks for your clarification ,

but now this ;kings and prophets are different breads of people ; look in the book of Jeremiah, JER 6:13 “For from the least of them even to the greatest of them,
Everyone is greedy for gain,
And from the prophet even to the priest
Everyone deals falsely.

JER 14:18 ‘If I go out to the country,
Behold, those slain with the sword!
Or if I enter the city,
Behold, diseases of famine!
For both prophet and priest
Have gone roving about in the land that they do not know.’ ”
JER 18:18 Then they said, “Come and let us devise plans against Jeremiah. Surely the law is not going to be lost to the priest, nor counsel to the sage, nor the divine word to the prophet! Come on and let us strike at him with our tongue, and let us give no heed to any of his words.”

-those are a few of what ;false prophets do ,CAN YOU SEE ALL THIS ON YOU TV

JER 23:11 “For both prophet and priest are polluted;
Even in My house I have found their wickedness,” declares the LORD.
JER 23:28 “The prophet who has a dream may relate his dream, but let him who has My word speak My word in truth. What does straw have in common with grain?” declares the LORD.

JER 28:9 “The prophet who prophesies of peace, when the word of the prophet comes to pass, then that prophet will be known as one whom the LORD has truly sent.”

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Sounds awfully like it's leader does it not?

No,the power of a culture in my view comes from a deviation of the way of God ,and this means going down to satisfy the flesh of one or a few, but without the culture in his population ,this could not work ,what good would have been Alexander the great ,without that warrior culture embedded inside the spirit of his own people ? not much right ;if the hose is not trained to run on command how would it work so WE NEED BOTH STIMULANT ;KING AND CULTURE;

EX 34:10 Then God said, “Behold, I am going to make a covenant. Before all your people I will perform miracles which have not been produced in all the earth nor among any of the nations; and all the people among whom you live will see the working of the LORD, for it is a fearful thing that I am going to perform with you.
EX 34:24 “For I will drive out nations before you and enlarge your borders, and no man shall covet your land when you go up three times a year to appear before the LORD your God.

miracles are also SUCCESSFUL ENDS TO SOMEONE PURPOSE

DT 7:22 “ The LORD your God will clear away these nations before you little by little; you will not be able to put an end to them quickly, for the wild beasts would grow too numerous for you.
DT 8:20 “Like the nations that the LORD makes to perish before you, so you shall perish; because you would not listen to the voice of the LORD your God.

DT 9:1 “Hear, O Israel! You are crossing over the Jordan today to go in to dispossess nations greater and mightier than you, great cities fortified to heaven,
DT 9:4 “ Do not say in your heart when the LORD your God has driven them out before you, ‘Because of my righteousness the LORD has brought me in to possess this land,’ but it is because of the wickedness of these nations that the LORD is dispossessing them before you.

I DO BELIEVE THAT THEIR IS A BIGGER PICTURE THAT IS AT WORK IN THE WORLD ,BECAUSE MEN'S WORLD IS ONLY THE STAGE ,NOT THE MANAGER OF THE PLAY ,GOD HIS ,AND SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT IS GOD'S PURPOSE AND HOW HE DIRRECT THE ACTORS INTO POSITION TO ALL COME TOGETHER IN FULFILLMENT OF HIS WORD ,NOT OURS ,

TAKE CARE BROTHER

[Wakeup]

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terraricca,Sep. wrote: [/quote] This is what I see the 2nd beast in rev ch13 Terra…a man likened to a beast…which would mean that his kingdom would likewise reflect his traits too simply because he leads them according to his traits which can be likened to any particular animal. Quote I have to agree with you ,but i have also a reserve to make in this ; when a man is or act as a beast means one thing ,when a nation (king) act like beasts ,is means different thing ;one person being animal ,means usually he lost his mind and act as a single  idea,so that he lost his perspective of his  human life, on the other hand ;being describe as a king   to be like an beast or even multi beast aspect ,would create a total non existent beast ,and so become a composite beast mix, in this fashion it would more mean that those nations (kings) are coming out of different beast like cultures ,would we not say ?? i think so , also kings are men ,but their people have culture and that is what makes the kingdom animal like or not ,beasts are by nature aggressive ,territorial, possessive ,(well like Satan disregarding the life of other for serving his own purpose ) so this is were we should be careful ,not to come to a to quick conclusion,prior to really investigate those roads ,and not mix them up. Yes I agree….but I should have been clearer…good observation though!!…which I agree, very good!! Here's what I mean: Kings used to lead their armies on the battlefield, if not in the lead, then definitely tactically wise… So the armies of those empires would have reflected their kings battle tactics & style….his traits… Like Alexander the Great was known for…a brilliant tactician, a fearless fighter, surprising his enemies with a fast and usually brief but victorious attack….(blitzreig)…just like a Leopard…. And that's how his army fought…they fought with Alexander's traits as it were. So I should have been clearer…these empires kings were given predatory animal likenesses in the vision because they were being described as they were warring, and the armies were reflections of those beast kings tactics & 'traits' on the battlefield. So when I said the empire also reflecting those traits, I meant the empire when at war…her armies with their traits. And when the false prophet comes, he will be one nasty beast, and his armies no doubt high tech, a reflection of his miracles that he does, and organized like their leaders wonderful words, and understanding dark schemes, not only politically, but also in their military tactics, and strong, and proud, and fast and terrible….almost invincible like a Dragon. All the traits of their leader…a particular beast that God appoints an image to when explaining. And an empire at war usually reflects its leader. Like the two beasts in rev ch13… Notice that one beast promotes the other beast, speaks for it, acts in it's interests, tells the people to obey it, make an image to it, worship it etc….and doing so with the same authority…WITH all the authority….of….the….first beast!! Hmmm!! Sounds awfully like it's leader does it not? Q Don't they do exactly the same?…LEADERS…speak on their nations/empires behalf? …*before the nation/beast* (in it's presence) whilst the empire/nation watches on? Isn't that exactly what appears to be going on in rev ch13? One speaking on the others behalf? Hope that cleared up my meaning Terra? God bless.

Hi Devo.

Regarding the four blood moons.
If this happen in o14–15,this could mean the sign of the
false prophet being introduced to the world?

Pastor Hegee is making a big promotion of his book.
He preaches the rapture before the tribulation,so he should not be concerned about the four blood moons.
He is asking his followers, if they are ready.
Ready for the rapture.

He also believes that israel today are Gods people.
God is protecting and blessing israel.
This is ofcourse not what the scripture says.

He also is a pro zionist preaching, israel today are Gods people. Will they all be raptured?? And leave all their beautiful green pastures behind? Did not God blessed
them with those green pastures,as *he says* God did?

wakeup.

[Devolution]

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Quote (Devolution @ Sep. 03 2013,02:00) Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 02 2013,23:58) This is what I see the 2nd beast in rev ch13 Terra…a man likened to a beast…which would mean that his kingdom would likewise reflect his traits too simply because he leads them according to his traits which can be likened to any particular animal. Quote I have to agree with you ,but i have also a reserve to make in this ; when a man is or act as a beast means one thing ,when a nation (king) act like beasts ,is means different thing ;one person being animal ,means usually he lost his mind and act as a single  idea,so that he lost his perspective of his  human life, on the other hand ;being describe as a king   to be like an beast or even multi beast aspect ,would create a total non existent beast ,and so become a composite beast mix, in this fashion it would more mean that those nations (kings) are coming out of different beast like cultures ,would we not say ?? i think so , also kings are men ,but their people have culture and that is what makes the kingdom animal like or not ,beasts are by nature aggressive ,territorial, possessive ,(well like Satan disregarding the life of other for serving his own purpose ) so this is were we should be careful ,not to come to a to quick conclusion,prior to really investigate those roads ,and not mix them up. Yes I agree….but I should have been clearer…good observation though!!…which I agree, very good!! Here's what I mean: Kings used to lead their armies on the battlefield, if not in the lead, then definitely tactically wise… So the armies of those empires would have reflected their kings battle tactics & style….his traits… Like Alexander the Great was known for…a brilliant tactician, a fearless fighter, surprising his enemies with a fast and usually brief but victorious attack….(blitzreig)…just like a Leopard…. And that's how his army fought…they fought with Alexander's traits as it were. So I should have been clearer…these empires kings were given predatory animal likenesses in the vision because they were being described as they were warring, and the armies were reflections of those beast kings tactics & 'traits' on the battlefield. So when I said the empire also reflecting those traits, I meant the empire when at war…her armies with their traits. And when the false prophet comes, he will be one nasty beast, and his armies no doubt high tech, a reflection of his miracles that he does, and organized like their leaders wonderful words, and understanding dark schemes, not only politically, but also in their military tactics, and strong, and proud, and fast and terrible….almost invincible like a Dragon. All the traits of their leader…a particular beast that God appoints an image to when explaining. And an empire at war usually reflects its leader. Like the two beasts in rev ch13… Notice that one beast promotes the other beast, speaks for it, acts in it's interests, tells the people to obey it, make an image to it, worship it etc….and doing so with the same authority…WITH all the authority….of….the….first beast!! Hmmm!! Sounds awfully like it's leader does it not? Q Don't they do exactly the same?…LEADERS…speak on their nations/empires behalf? …*before the nation/beast* (in it's presence) whilst the empire/nation watches on? Isn't that exactly what appears to be going on in rev ch13? One speaking on the others behalf? Hope that cleared up my meaning Terra? God bless. Hi Devo. Regarding the four blood moons. If this happen in o14–15,this could mean the sign of the false prophet being introduced to the world? Pastor Hegee is making a big promotion of his book. He preaches the rapture before the tribulation,so he should not be concerned about the four blood moons. He is asking his followers, if they are ready. Ready for the rapture. He also believes that israel today are Gods people. God is protecting and blessing israel. This is ofcourse not what the scripture says. He also is a pro zionist preaching, israel today are Gods people. Will they all be raptured?? And leave all their beautiful green pastures behind? Did not God blessed them with those green pastures,as *he says* God did? wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

Yes that's what I was thinking, maybe he gets revealed next year?

NASA apparently confirms these coming tetrads (blood moons) on the feast days, with a solar eclipse in between!!

Like you, I don't agree with their interpretations, but the event itself has to mean something since the last events seemed to correspond with big events for Israel.

Still, interesting stuff.

[terraricca]

Devo

I do believe that the true believer ,by the knowledge of the scriptures in his heart will understand ,what really happen around him ,but this would be for his own protection ,God will take care of those that belong to his son,

What I REALY mean by this ,is that it is more important to be found doing righteous deeds than looking for the end times ,by good deeds I have also to include our personal self changes so that we become like our master and teacher Christ,in a way melt with him (in spirit humbleness) this would or could become our own salvation ,conqure this world and his fears ,even as to conquer dead it self ,I do not believe in dead ,and do not fear it at all,it is only one more stage,not an end,

Blessing in Christ to you and all yours

[Wakeup]

Hi Terra.

Are all in your family of the same faith?

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Very close and learning ,my son ,believes but ,in his own way,needs to still conquer his own shadow,

Latly I do crying more than rejoicing ,because of the love I have for so many and know what his coming,not for me but for them, but my daughter ,comes now through and become my joy ,so I am busy teaching her ,my son in law is a gnostic ,last week, he also has a fift BlackbeLt martial art ,I show him how all that training became his religion ,by sacrificing all his years to that sport,and now he is going older it goes away slowly ,and so all that work comes to an end ,and end with nothing at all,

He could not answer ,but he knows it is true ,one day years ago he told me to stop preaching to him ,I say but I don't ,he said ,I know you do ,I feel it,but latly ,he is more willingly to talk to me,and that is good,

We my very own kids ,have been raised out of religion grasp, and have in this protected them ,but this is only one battle ,each of them as to make his own facing The Truth with there own hearts,

[Wakeup]

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Very close and learning ,my son ,believes but ,in his own way,needs to still conquer his own shadow, Latly I do crying more than rejoicing ,because of the love I have for so many and know what his coming,not for me but for them, but my daughter ,comes now through and become my joy ,so I am busy teaching her ,my son in law is a gnostic ,last week, he also has a fift BlackbeLt martial art ,I show him how all that training became his religion ,by sacrificing all his years to that sport,and now he is going older it goes away slowly ,and so all that work comes to an end ,and end with nothing at all, He could not answer ,but he knows it is true ,one day years ago he told me to stop preaching to him ,I say but I don't ,he said ,I know you do ,I feel it,but latly ,he is more willingly to talk to me,and that is good, We my very own kids ,have been raised out of religion grasp, and have in this protected them ,but this is only one battle ,each of them as to make his own facing The Truth with there own hearts,

Thank you Terra,same situation here,
My sons believe,but it stops there.
Not spending time in seeking,the temptations of great babylon is too much for this generation.

Every where you look there is babylon calling
to have a good time,brain washing the young and old.I have taught them about the hard times coming,and about the false prophet,and his mark.
They believe,but when the temptations comes,thats
when their believe would be tested.

Lets pray that God would give them a little help.
When the mark is forced on them,maybe they will wake up,and consider,that after all its not just religion.
All are told not to talk religion by the world.
We know that ours is not just religion,but a
relation with the creator,which we must put first in our lives.

Take care brother,our Lord also had to suffer,
crying in blood sweat,but look at the end of him
sitting next to his Father in heaven.
And so will we be,in Christ and in God,in the kingdom
and inherit all things.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

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Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 07 2013,17:01) Very close and learning ,my son ,believes but ,in his own way,needs to still conquer his own shadow, Latly I do crying more than rejoicing ,because of the love I have for so many and know what his coming,not for me but for them, but my daughter ,comes now through and become my joy ,so I am busy teaching her ,my son in law is a gnostic ,last week, he also has a fift BlackbeLt martial art ,I show him how all that training became his religion ,by sacrificing all his years to that sport,and now he is going older it goes away slowly ,and so all that work comes to an end ,and end with nothing at all, He could not answer ,but he knows it is true ,one day years ago he told me to stop preaching to him ,I say but I don't ,he said ,I know you do ,I feel it,but latly ,he is more willingly to talk to me,and that is good, We my very own kids ,have been raised out of religion grasp, and have in this protected them ,but this is only one battle ,each of them as to make his own facing The Truth with there own hearts, Thank you Terra,same situation here, My sons believe,but it stops there. Not spending time in seeking,the temptations of great babylon is too much for this generation. Every where you look there is babylon calling to have a good time,brain washing the young and old.I have taught them about the hard times coming,and about the false prophet,and his mark. They believe,but when the temptations comes,thats   when their believe would be tested. Lets pray that God would give them a little help. When the mark is forced on them,maybe they will wake up,and consider,that after all its not just religion. All are told not to talk religion by the world. We know that ours is not just religion,but a relation with the creator,which we must put first in our lives. Take care brother,our Lord also had to suffer, crying in blood sweat,but look at the end of him sitting next to his Father in heaven. And so will we be,in Christ and in God,in the kingdom and inherit all things. wakeup.

[Proclaimer]

This is one view of who the Beast is.

[Wakeup]

That revelation was not revealed by the HS.

1.Mountains=kingdoms; NOT seven physical hills.
There were 7 mountsains 5 are no more in Johns time
period. One is ruling in Johns time,and that was the 6th.
Which was the roman empire.
The 7th is now/today: still Roman(iron and clay).(the feet).
The ten toes are coming,which will be the 8th.(last).(end).
This is Babylon: will be destroyed(the cities **of the
nations** will be no more.(NOT ONLY ROME AND THE
VATICAN).But Babylon the great will be no more.

2.The woman is not physical,she is RIDING ON THE BACKS
of the seven beasts=seven kingdoms.(Mountains).(heads).
3.The first beast was Egypt;the 7th beast is here now.
the 8th beast WILL come out of this seventh.The 8th beast
will have 10 kings. A conglomeration of nations.(NWO).
This will be the last beast; and will be destroyed at the
coming.
4.The woman harlot started riding since Egypt;
she is the tempter of all nations. Tempting them with
all her delicacies. (Luxuries).(things of great value).
anything of great value,like gold and oil.All people worship
all her gifts like,pleasure,lust, fun, luxuries. All are
dwelling in this spiritual CITY.Today even more so; people
worship this material city,(materially minded).They are
tempted to get what ever is there for sale on the
market.This they worship, and slave for.

5.She is also called Mystery;Babylon the great the MOTHER
OF HARLOTS.
We are to come out of Babylon the great;this does not
mean;**come out of the catholic church**;because not
all are catholics. But come out of the world concept of
thinking.
6.Come into zion;the CITY of God where there is peace.
The renewal of the mind,living by the spirit of Jesus,
And leave behind the spirit of Babylon.

BABYLON STARTED IN BABEL. THE WOMAN STARTED RIDING ON **EGYPT'S** BACK.THIS IS WHERE PEOPLE START WORSHIPPING MATERIAL GOODS,AND LUXURIES.

wakeup.

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