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Welcome back Malcolm,
Gen 1
26 And God said, Let us make man[120] in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man[120] in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.Number 120
Transliteration:
'adam {aw-dawm'}
Word Origin:
from 119
TWOT:
25a
Part of Speech:
noun masculine
Usage in the KJV:
man 408, men 121, Adam 13, person(s) 8, common sort 07230 1, hypocrite 1Total: 552
Definition:
man, mankind
man, human being
man, mankind (much more frequently intended sense in OT)
Adam, first man
city in Jordan valleyHi Nick,
Interesting…
Why then did Balaam (prophesying under the anointing of the Almighty) say
“God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind.”
why the repetition if a man and a son of man are essentially the same thing?
Hi MF,
Adam chose to serve the one who was a liar from the beginning.
It could also read SON OF ADAM.
It is inherent to men to lie?
Try this.
Jb25
4How then can man be justified with God? or how can he be clean that is born of a woman?5Behold even to the moon, and it shineth not; yea, the stars are not pure in his sight.
6How much less man, that is a worm? and the son of man, which is a worm?
Why is it that Jesus Christ the Son of God then refers to himself during his ministry almost exclusively as the son of man?
I don't see much example of people having a problem with recognising his humanity,
rather his authority beyond the human seems to be the major problem.GB,
The response of others is not the issue.
His words are everlasting.He had to be of Adam to be the second Adam able to restore man to God.
He had to be of Adam to be a suitable sacrifice for this reconciliation.Ok so a prophet is sent to fore run him (John the baptist) and declares that he is the son of God (not the Son of Man)
Also GOD by His Spirit declares more than once that he (Jesus) is the son of God (not the Son of Man)
Also clearly the people have no issue with the fact that he is a “dirt man” like themselves (is not this Jesus the son of Joseph and Mary?)
However they do seem to take exception to the fact that he calls himself the son of God
this is after all one of the chief causes of his execution.
It seems odd to me that Jesus is so obsessed with being recognized as a human being, an everyday person.
When GOD is more concerned with declaring him (both personally and through John the baptist) to be the son of GOD.???By ‘the terms’, I assume you mean ‘Son of God ‘and ’Son of Man’.
What I am getting at is that the title ‘THE Son of Man’ is used by Jesus to refer to the ministry of the Holy Spirit in him. My point is that when he refers to ‘THE Son of Man’ what we are looking at is not a ‘dirt man’ rather the ministry of the Holy Spirit in human flesh.
IMHO that is…SO it is the Son of Man That many are waiting for, to appear on clouds,
AND IF SO, is this just his spirit arriving Malcolm.
Son Of Man sounds very as Son Of the flesh Man…..agree?
and more ponderous is Adams claims to BEING Gods Son TRASHED?son of man
Dan 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, [one] like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.over surge of truth, hearts fail and as basic as iT sayeth,
He becomes the Son of a Man free, and A brother, and AS normal JUST like us?Hi Charity
Jesus when he was on earth was quick to point out that it was not his ministry or his words but his Fathers’ not his name but his Fathers’ that he was declaring. In other words the ministry of the Holy Spirit (for God is a Spirit). The understanding of who the Son of Man is requires a revelation from God according to Jesus, and he builds his church upon this revelation…
Hi Malcolm,
yes Jesus had to learn all about his father Davids kingdom, just as he was rising the reins of His government, he would have studied his scriptures, just like we study the bible.
The Gospel of John has again twisted the doctrine of the father,i John is not interested in Davids statues, for Davids are Just, by hearing alone your soul shall live, go now your sin is forgiven
AND WAS IT THE ADVERSARY OF Moses laws THAT DESTROYED HIS life? SAYING you must BE BORN AGAIN,
O YET AGAIN, ALWAYS MORE RULES made TO FOLLOW BY DICTATORS.Hi charity,
John is a brother.
Can you not align his teachings?
Moses Laws cannot save and it was the body of Moses that was argued over as to whom it belonged.Quote (charity @ Sep. 28 2008,22:38) SO it is the Son of Man That many are waiting for, to appear on clouds,
AND IF SO, is this just his spirit arriving Malcolm.
Son Of Man sounds very as Son Of the flesh Man…..agree?
and more ponderous is Adams claims to BEING Gods Son TRASHED?son of man
Dan 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, [one] like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.over surge of truth, hearts fail and as basic as iT sayeth,
He becomes the Son of a Man free, and A brother, and AS normal JUST like us?
Hi charity,
Does scripture say the Son of man alters in appearance after being garbed for heaven?
He is since the Jordan alive in the Spirit of God, the Spirit of Christ.
His own spirit left him at calvary.Hi charity,
Angels too can look like SONS OF MEN and are often mistaken for men.Genesis 18:2
And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground,
Ez 10
6It came about when He commanded the man clothed in linen, saying, “Take fire from between the whirling wheels, from between the cherubim,” he entered and stood beside a wheel.Likewise we are to become like to the angels. So appearance matters little
Quote (malcolm ferris @ Sep. 28 2008,22:23) By ‘the terms’, I assume you mean ‘Son of God ‘and ’Son of Man’.
What I am getting at is that the title ‘THE Son of Man’ is used by Jesus to refer to the ministry of the Holy Spirit in him. My point is that when he refers to ‘THE Son of Man’ what we are looking at is not a ‘dirt man’ rather the ministry of the Holy Spirit in human flesh.
IMHO that is…
HiMF,
Good point in that his unique origins must not be allowed to override his role as an anointed man. But many put more emphasis on the former making him a godman, even though his own spirit left him at calvary and he lives now as we will only in his father's spirit.Charity
Quote by hearing alone your soul shall live for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.
Romans 10:10By hearing alone? Many can hear words – it is not the physical hearing of them that makes a difference. It is the receiving of them into the heart. Even as it is not what the mouth outwardly professes that justifies us but rather the understanding of the heart.
Of course the outward profession will echo this but many can say “Lord Lord” as Jesus reminded us. Hearing and seeing in the gospel includes a component of understanding, for many saw the man Jesus during his ministry and many heard him. Not many that did benefitted however.
IMHO that is…
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