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    Eliyah
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    HalleluYAH is a word that is used extensively in our world today, but what does it mean? The answer may be surprising, but it is a key to understanding the true name of the Creator.

    I was listening to a radio talk show recently. The commentator was frustrated because he was trying to make a point with one of his listeners. The more he tried to explain, the worse the situation became. Finally the point was driven home and, when the commentator realized that his point was successfully explained he amazingly exclaimed, “HalleluYAH!”

    I have also heard it from the mouths of others recently when they wanted to shout an exclamation of joy or triumph they will say, “HalleluYAH!”

    But what does “HalleluYAH” mean? When people say it do they know what they have said, or are they only mimicking others? Especially, in a world that seems to be getting farther and farther away from any kind of Biblical knowledge. When someone says “HalleluYAH” they are repeating something that comes straight out of the Bible. That’s right! Its Biblical talk.

    UNDERSTANDING THE WORD

    Believe it or not, HalleluYAH is a word taken straight out of the Hebrew language which is the original language of the Old Testament. HalleluYAH is recorded quite a number of times in the book of Psalms. The English version of the Companion Bible reads thusly; “Praise ye THE LORD.” (Psa. 111:1), but the original Hebrew is HalleluYAH.”

    Now do you begin to get an inkling as to what the word means? When one says “HalleluYAH” he is actually praising the Creator Whose name is “YAH.” Look at (Psa. 68:4), “Sing unto Elohim, sing praises to His name: Extol Him That rideth upon the heavens by His name JAH (should be; YAH), and rejoice before Him.” This Psalm is actually saying that we should PRAISE YAH (Hebrew = Hallelu YAH).( Psa. 68:4 )reveals that Hallelu YAH is a word of rejoicing. That is why people make the exclamation “Hallelu YAH” when they are overjoyed!

    Hallelu YAH can be broken down thusly; Hallel = praise, u = ye, YAH = the name of the Creator.

    THE NAME

    Hallelu YAH is a word that gives us a key to knowing and understanding what the name of our Heavenly Father is.

    Let’s go back to( Psa. 111:1) and look at the Companion Bible version which reads, “Praise ye THE LORD. I will praise the LORD with my whole heart, in the assembly of the upright, and in the congregation.”

    Look at the contrast between the words “THE LORD” in the first sentence and “the LORD” in the second sentence. Why is that? Isn’t it all the same? Why shouldn’t they both appear in the same manner? The simple reason is that the second rendering of “the LORD” would give us a little added information if we were to look it up in the Hebrew, for Hallelu YAH in the first sentence gives us the contractional form of the Creator’s name while “the LORD” in the second sentence gives the full form which is “YAHWEH.” YAH in Hebrew is “hy” while the full name is “hwhy” (Hebrew reads from right to left while our English version is from left to right, i.e. YHWH.).

    YAH is the shortened form of YAHWEH. It is the same idea that we get when we shorten our own names such as; Sue = Susan, Dot = Dorothy, Tim = Timothy, Don = Donald, Ron = Ronald, Bill or Will = William, Mike = Michael, etc. Anytime a person is addressed with the shortened version of their actual name, they have no problem understanding that they are the one being spoken to. It is the same with YAHWEH. One can refer to, or call on Him as YAH or YAHWEH.

    NAME FORGOTTEN

    Someone might say, “Yeah, that is all well and good, but we are English and these names “YAH and YAHWEH” are Hebrew. What is wrong with simply saying “the LORD” or “GOD” etc. as is recorded in the Bible? After all, He knows what we mean.” While it is true that He knows what we mean, look at what the apostle Paul told the men (Greeks) on Mars’ hill, “And the times of this ignorance YAHWEH winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent,” (Acts 17:30).

    If we were ignorant of the Creator’s name then YAHWEH winked at that ignorance, but now that we know His name, if we continue to obstinately refuse to glorify Him by continuing to call upon Him in other names and appellatives that are not pleasing to Him, then we will have to answer for it in the judgment, “Because He hath appointed a day, in the which He will judge the world in righteousness by that Man Whom He hath ordained; whereof He hath given assurance unto all men, in that He hath raised Him from the dead,” v. 31.

    How have people forgotten YAHWEH'S name? “I have heard what the prophets said, that prophesy lies in my name, saying, I have dreamed, I have dreamed. How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets that prophesy lies? Yea, they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart; Which think to cause my people to forget my name by their dreams which they tell every man to his neighbour, as their fathers have forgotten my name for Baal( ie-lord),” (Jer. 23:25-27).

    Did you get that!? Did you know the true name of the Creator? If not then you were ignorant of His name weren’t you? Why were you ignorant of His name? Weren’t you using other words and appellatives for His name? Could it be that this prophecy has come true for you and everyone who does not know the Creator’s name?

    NEW TESTAMENT PROOF

    Is there a place in the New Testament that would prove to us that it is important to praise YAH (Hallelu YAH) using the original inspired name? “And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto YAHWEH our Elohim: For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand. And again they said, Alleluia. And her smoke rose up for ever and ever. And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped Elohim that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia. And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our Elohim, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great. And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for Adonai YAHWEH omnipotent reigneth. Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready,” (Rev. 19:1-7).

    Also, Please check out the “” English Dictionary “” of this word.

    Notice it! The word “Alleluia” is simply the English rendering from the Greek, which in turn, is the Greek rendering for the Hebrew “Hallelu YAH” (Praise ye YAH). It is stated FOUR times!

    When do the people say “Hallelu YAH?” After the judgment of the great whore that has corrupted the earth with her idolatrous fornications.

    REPENT

    One might say, “Well, everything comes out O.K. in the end, so why worry? It looks like everyone will eventually know His name.” This is true, but there is a specific warning for those who are involved in idolatrous worship with the great whore, “And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues,” (Rev. 18:1-4).

    We are commanded from heaven itself to come out of the evil, corrupt, polluted system that is called Ba
    bylon the great. In other words we are commanded to REPENT!

    After receiving the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost, the apostle Peter was asked what one should do. He cried out to those of his day (which also included our day), “Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of YAHshua Messiah for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as YAHWEH our Elohim shall call. And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation,”( Acts 2:38-40).

    THE SEAL

    The apostle Paul reveals that the Holy Spirit is a seal, “In Whom (YAHshua Messiah) ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the evangel of your salvation: in Whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory,”( Eph. 1:13-14).

    The Holy Spirit seals one with YAHWEH'S Holy name, “And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living Elohim…And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel” Rev. 7:2, 4. “And I looked, and lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with Him an hundred forty and four thousand, having His Father’s name written in their foreheads,” Rev. 14:1. Strictly speaking, Scripture forbids speaking names of other elohim (Ex. 23:13).

    Also, check the ( English Dictionary ) of this word.

    Main Entry: al·le·lu·ia
    Pronunciation: “a-l&-'lü-y&
    Function: interjection
    Etymology: Middle English, from Late Latin, from Greek allElouia, from Hebrew halalu-YAH praise ye Jehovah
    : HALLELU-JAH

    Unquote.

    Remember, there was no letter ” J ” untill about 500 years ago.

    Now you know what “” HALLELU-YAH “” means, It means “”Praise You YAH “( See Psalms 68:4).

    Thank You for taking the time to read this Article.

    Eliyah C. On the net!

    #8555
    Eliyah
    Participant

    Well, it looks as if no one wants to admit what “” HalleluYAH “” really means.

    Many people will say “”” I don't speak Hebrew .””” Unquote.

    Well, when you use the word above to and for rejoicing that is an Hebrew word meaning “” Praise you YAH “”.

    Also, when you say the word “” satan “”, this too is a Hebrew word and is said from “” Hebrew to English “” as “” Ha'satan “”.

    People use many words in English today that are “” Hebrew words “” but they don't know it, because they merely do not know it and recognize it.

    Eliyah C.

    #8557
    david
    Participant

    I didn't read any of the stuff above.

    hallelujah means praise Jah.

    Jah is the shortened form of the tetragramaton (a word meaning “4 letters”)

    #8561
    Eliyah
    Participant

    The 'J' Didn't Exist

    One of the most obvious reasons that “Jesus” and “Jehovah” are incorrect is found in their common initial letter, J. Most comprehensive dictionaries and encyclopedias demonstrate that the letter J is of recent derivation. The Encyclopedia Americana contains the following on the J:

    The form of J was unknown in any alphabet until the 14th century. Either symbol (J,I) used initially generally had the consonantal sound of Y as in year. Gradually, the two symbols (J,l) were differentiated, the J usually acquiring consonantal force and thus becoming regarded as a consonant, and the I becoming a vowel. It was not until 1630 that the differentiation became general in England.

    The letter J developed from the letter I and was used to avoid confusion. Chambers's Encyclopedia says that in medieval handwriting the small i was liable to be confused with one of the strokes of a preceding or following u. Therefore an oblique stroke and later a dot was often made over the i. Alternately, the i was prolonged below the line.

    The J and its I sound is still used in the German language. In the names of the months of January, June, and July, the German keeps the “ee” sound much like our Y. For example, July is pronounced “Yulee.”

    Note the substantiating comments of the Encyclopedia Americana regarding The Letter J:

    It is one of the few permanent additions to those alphabets, made in medieval or modern times. More exactly, it was not an addition, but a differentiation from an existing letter, i, which in Latin, besides being a vowel (as in index), had also the consonantal value of “Y” (as in maior, pronounced “mayor”).
    At a later stage, the symbol “J” was used for distinctive purposes, particularly when the “I” had to be written initially (or in conjunction with another “I”). Either symbol used initially generally had the consonantal sound of “Y” (as in year) so that the Latin pronunciation of either Ianuarius or Januarius was as though the spelling was “Yanuarius.” While in some words of Hebrew and other origin (such as Hallelujah or Junker), “J” has the phonetic value of “Y.”

    The J Develops [box caption – image not shown]
    Around 1000 B.C. The Phoenicians and other Semites of Syria and Palestine began to use a graphic sign in the forms (1,2) They gave it the name yodh, meaning “hand,” and used it for a semiconsonant y, as in English boy, boys. After 900 B.C. the Greeks borrowed The sign from the Phoenicians, using at first various angular versions ( 3 ,4 ,5 ), and then a simplified form ( 6 ) They also changed its name to iota and made it stand for their vowel i. The Greek form (6) passed unchanged via Etruscan to the Roman alphabet ( 7,8 ). The Romans used the sign both for the vowel i and for the semiconsonant y, as in IECIT. When subsequently the need arose to differentiate the two sounds, an unsystematic habit grew up of adding a tail to the i for the semiconsonant, as in the late Roman and medieval Uncial (9, 10) and Cursive (11). The distinction was not fully established until the 17th century, when the capital (12,13) and small letter (14,15) took their modem forms The dot on the small letter was carried over from the letter i. American Heritage Dictionary

    Because the letter J derived from the I, and had the same sound, it was classed as a vowel. The letter I comes from the Greek “iota,” which is the Hebrew “yothe.” Both have a vowel sound. There is no “J” sound in the Anglo-Saxon, let alone Hebrew, and no Roman form to work from. The J was first pronounced as the I until the printing press was introduced. Gradually the letter J acquired its own sound through French influence.

    Webster's Universal Dictionary (1936) discloses the early relationship between I and J:

    As a character it was formerly used interchangeably with “i,” both letters having originally the sane sound; and after the “j” sound came to be common in English, it was often written where this sound must have been pronounced. The separation of these two letters is of comparatively recent date, being brought about through the influence of the Dutch printers.

    The New Book of Knowledge demonstrates that the I was derived from the Hebrew “yothe.” The yothe is the same Hebrew letter that begins Yahweh's Name. It also begins the Savior's Name Yahshua. The sound of the yothe is “ee” or “eh.” (More on the sacred Name later in this booklet.)

    The printing press soon replaced the laborious copying by scribes the longhand editions of the Bible. The initial copies of the King James Version did not use the letter J for the Savior's Name. No evidence has come to light that shows the letter I ever had the consonantal sound of the letter J. This is shown in the New Funk and Wagnall Encyclopedia:

    Not until the middle of the 17th century did this usage become universal in English books; in the King James Bible of 1611 for example, the words Jesus and judge are invariably Iesus and iudge.

    This is corroborated by the authoritative Oxford English Dictionary concerning the letter J, “The J j types are not used in the Bible of 1611….”

    Writing Followed Speech

    The Oxford English Dictionary is acknowledged as the most authoritative work on the origins and meanings of words in the English language. A 12-volume work, the dictionary took 50 years to produce.

    Under the entry “J,” this dictionary explains how the J received its sound:

    Some time before the 6th century, this y-sound had, by compression in articulation, and consequent development of an initial 'stop,' become a consonantal diphthong, passing through a sound (dy), akin to that of our di, de, in odious, hideous, to that represented in our phonetic symbolization (dz). At the same time, the original guttural sound of G, when followed by a front vowel, had changed to that of palatal g (gy), and then, by an advance of the point of closure, had passed through that of (dy), to the same sound (dz); so the i consonant and the so-called g 'soft' came to have, in the Romanic languages, the same identical value.

    The Encyclopedia Britannica shows that the sound of the letter J was the same as the letter I:

    The original consonantal sound represented by the letter was the semi-vowel or spirant “I” (the sound of y in yacht). This passed into dy and later into the sound dz which the letter represents today.

    Along with the changing pronunciation, there came the change in the alphabet to accommodate the alteration. Webster's New International Dictionary explains:

    J is a comparatively late variant from the Latin I which was used indifferently as a vowel or consonant, its consonantal value being that of English Y in yet. The form J was developed from i during the Middle Ages, and it was long used in certain positions in the word merely without regard to the sound as a consonant or vowel. But the lengthened form was often initial, and the initial was usually consonantal, so the j gradually became differentiated from i in function as well as form. It was not, however, until the 17th century that the distinction of j as a consonant and i as a vowel was fully established and the capital J introduced. In English, the regular and practically uniform sound of j as in “jet” (dzh), the same as g in “gem,” dates from the 11th century, that being the sound represented by i when consonantal in words then introduced from old French.

    J Sound Same as I Sound

    In his book, Triumph of the Alphabet, author A.C. Moorhouse explains how the Y and the I (hence the J also) were all related in sound. Furthermore, he cites how one language will borrow from another to bring the same sound across. Note his comment on page 128:

    The Semitic alphabet had no vowels, but it was essential for intelligibility that the Greek alphabet should have them. This it did by using Semitic letters which represented sounds unknown to the Greek.
    Semitic yod stood for the semivowel y, and it is easy to use it in Greek for the related vowel i.

    Written language develops from spoken. Even today, missionaries are challenged to reduce a tribal language in some remote area to writing. It is difficult to bring across into English every vocalization in a foreign tongue using our alphabet.

    The New Book of Knowledge confirms the findings of Moorhouse:

    The early history of the letter “J” is the same as the history of the letter “1.” “1” is a descendant of the ancient Phoenician and Hebrew letter “yod” and the Greek letter “iota.” The Phoenicians gave the yod a semiconsonant sound pronounced like the “Y” in yellow. While the lower case “J” of modern type was derived directly from medieval manuscripts, the capital “J” is virtually a printer's invention. The sound “J” as we know it in English today was derived when the “Y” sound eventually passed into a “dy” sound and later into the “J” sound as in juggle.

    Eventually, all modern languages picked up the new sound from Latin. Under the topic “J,” Collier's Encyclopedia shows how this happened:

    Introduced as a sign for the consonantal sound of “i” in Latin words, the letter j was soon used in English, French, and Spanish to represent the sound that developed out of Latinic consonantic i in each of these three languages. This was a certain improvement, since these three sounds (y, z, dz) which all developed out of the Latin consonant i, did not exist in Latin, and the Latin alphabet had no sign for them.

    If the letter J and its sound (dz) did not exist until shortly before the printing of the King James Version of the Bible, what were the names of the Heavenly Father and His Son before that time?

    The Actual Name

    The Creator's Name Yahweh derives from the Tetragrammaton YHWH, the English equivalent of the Hebrew letters yothe, hay, waw, hay. The Tetragrammaton—”four letters” is found in ancient Bible manuscripts. Early Christian writers such as Clement of Alexandria transliterated it into Greek as IAOUE. (Transliterate means to carry the actual sound of a word from one language to another.) The Tetragrammaton is made up of four Hebrew letters having the force of vowels, as Hebrew primers readily show. Josephus says that the Tetragrammaton appeared in the High Priest's miter (hat) and consisted of four vowels. Wars, Book V, chapter V, 7.

    In Greek, the I has an “ee” sound as in machine. When we pronounce the Tetragrammaton IAOUE we get the sound “ee-ah-ou-eh.” Saying it rapidly we produce “Yah-way,” which appears as 'Yahweh' in English. The Tetragrammaton appears 6,823 times in Hebrew Scriptures.

    The short form of the sacred Name appears in one place in the King James Version: “. . .extol Him that rideth upon the heavens by His name JAH, and rejoice before Him,” Psalm 68:4. As we have seen, the J should be a Y.

    Hebrew names are transliterated into our English Bible as evidenced by many common names. Many names of Old Testament writers such as Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Zephaniah, end with this first part (Yah) of the sacred Name. Note that they retain the “ee” sound of the I in “iah.”

    Numerous secular as well as religious scholars attest that Yahweh is the correct, original Name of the Heavenly Father. Following is a listing of some of each, taken right from reference works and materials available in nearly every public library.

    “Yahweh” In The Hebrew Scriptures [box caption – image not shown]
    THIS IS THE FIRST PART of Isaiah 61 in the Hebrew text, quoted by Yahshua Himself. The sacred Name Yahweh is circled three places.

    Secular Scholars

    The New American Encyclopedia: “Jehovah— (properly Yahweh) a name of the God of Israel, now widely regarded as a mis-pronunciation of the Hebrew YHWH

    The Encyclopedia Britannica: “…the letters YHWH used in the original Hebrew Bible to represent the name of God.”

    The Oxford Cyclopedic Concordance: “Jehovah— the name revealed to Moses at Horeb. Its real pronunciation is approximately Yahweh. The Name itself was not pronounced Jehovah before the 16th century.”

    American Heritage Dictionary: “Yahweh—A name for God assumed by modern scholars to be a rendering of the pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton.

    Webster's New World Dictionary: “Yahweh— God, a form of the Hebrew name in the Old Testament. See Tetragrammaton.

    New Century Dictionary:

    “Jehovah—the common European rendering of Heb. JHVH (or YHWH), representing, without vowels, Heb. Jahweh (or Yahweh), a divine name . . . regarded by the Jews as too Sacred for utterance and hence replaced in the reading of the Scriptures by Adonai or Elohim; the form Jehovah being due to a mispronunciation of Heb. JHVH with the vowels of the associated Heb. Adonai. A name of God in the Old Testament, being the Christian rendering the 'ineffable name,' JHVH in the Hebrew Scriptures.

    A History of Christianity, Kenneth Scott Latourette (p. 11):

    Israel regarded their god, Yahweh, a name mistakenly put into the English as Jehovah, as the God of the universe, the maker and ruler of heaven and earth. Other peoples had their gods, but Yahweh was regarded by these monotheists as far more powerful than they.

    Encyclopedia Britannica (Micropedia, vol. 10):

    Yahweh—the personal name of the God of the Israelites . . . The Masoretes, Jewish biblical scholars of the Middle Ages, replaced the vowel signs that had appeared above or beneath the consonants of YHWH with the vowel signs of Adonai or of Elohim. Thus, the artificial name Jehovah (YeHoWaH) came into being. Although Christian scholars after the Rendssance and Reformation periods used the term Jehovah for YHWH, in the l9th and 20th centuries biblical scholars again began to use the form Yahweh. Early Christian writers, Such as Clement of Alexandria in the 2nd century, had used the form Yahweh, thus this pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton was never really lost. Greek transcriptiona also indicated that Yhwh Should be pronounced Yahweh.

    Religious Scholars

    Cyclopedia of Biblical, Theological, and Ecclesiastical Literature: “Jehovah — the imperfect of Jahve (Yahwe or Jehovah or Jahwe (Yahweh) ). He is self existing.” Vol. 3, p. 901.

    Jewish Encyclopedia: “Rabbinical Literature — The name Yahweh is considered the Name proper.” Vol. 9, p. 162.

    Seventh-Day Adventist Bible Commentary: “And the name above all others that was looked upon as the name, the personal name of God, was YAHWEH.” Vol. 1, p. 172.

    The International Bile Encyclopedia of King James Version: “Jehovah – It is believed that the correct pronunciation of this word is 'Yahweh.'”

    New Standard Bible Dictionary: “Jehovah – Properly Yahweh . . the form 'Jehovah' is impossible, according to the strict principles of Hebrew vocalization.”

    Davis Dictionary of the Bible: “Jehovah – The Tetragrammaton is generally believed to have been pronounced Jahweh, Yahweh…”

    A Greek-English Lexicon: “Kurios – equals 'Yahweh.'” p.1013.

    Jewish Quarterly Review: “In the biblical period Yahweh was a proper name, the God of Israel, an ethnic God.” April 1969, Dr. Zolomon Zeitlin.

    New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology, Vol. 2:

    In the OT the words el, eloah, and elohim, from related roots, are generic designations of God. Alongside and alternating with them stands the individual personal name Yahweh.

    Review and Herald, December 16, 1971:

    Yahweh is the name that identifies the God of the Hebrews. Where the Philistines worshiped Dagon, the Egyptians, Amon, and the Ammonites, Milcom, the Hebrews worshiped Yahweh. The title 'god' (elohim) is applied to false deities in the Scriptures as well as to Yahweh, hence is not a term by which one can be distinguished from the others. When the voice said, 'I am Yahweh,' there was no doubt in any listener's mind as to the identity of the
    speaker. He was the god of the Hebrews. So far as is known, no other peoples called their god by his name.

    'Jehovah' Wrong From the Start

    “Jehovah” is a hybrid name manufactured as a result of a fear to pronounce the sacred Name Yahweh.

    In chapter 4 of the introduction to The Emphasized Bible, Joseph Rotherman explains how the sacred Name was avoided:

    It is willingly admitted that the suppression has not been absolute; at least so far as Hebrew and English are concerned. The Name, in its four essential letters, was reverently transcribed by the Hebrew copyists, and therefore was necessarily placed before the eye of the Hebrew reader. The latter, however, was instructed not to pronounce it, but to utter instead a less sacred name – Adonay or Elohim. In this way the Name was not suffered to reach the ear of the listener.

    Jehovah is the result of a further derailment in the convoluted efforts to avoid the Name Yahweh.

    Scholars all know that Jehovah could not be the pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton YHWH used for the Name of the Creator in the oldest available manuscripts.

    In the preface to the Revised Standard Version of the Bible, pp. 6-7, is the following about “Jehovah”:

    The form Jehovah is of late medieval origin; it is a combination of the consonants of the Divine Name and the vowels attached to it by the Masoretes but belonging to an entirely different word. The sound of Y is represented by J and the sound of W by V, as in Latin. The word “Jehovah” does not accurately represent any form of the Name ever used in Hebrew.

    A note on Exodus 3:14. taken from The Authorized Catholic Bible, says (direct photocopy):

    3:14. I am who am: apparently lhis utterance is the source of the word Yahweh, the proper personal name of the God of Israel. It is commonly explained in reference to God as the absolute and necessary Being. It may be understood of God as the Source of all created beings. Out of reverence for this name the term Adonai, “my lord” was later used as a substitule. The word LORD in the present version represents this traditional usage. The word “Jehovah” arose from a false reading of the name as it is written in the current Hebrew text.

    More proof is found on page 15 of the preface to The Bible, An American Translation, by Smith and Goodspeed:

    As nearly as we can now tell, the Hebrews called their Deity by the name Yahweh, and in a shorter form, Yah, used in relatively few cases. In course of time they came to regard this name as too sacred for utterance. They therefore substituted for it the Hebrew word for Lord.” When vowels were added to the text, the consonants of “Yahweh” were given the vowels of “Lord.” Somewhere in the fourteenth century C.E. Christian scholars, not understanding this usage, took the vowels and consonants exactly as they were written and produced the artificial name “Jehovah” which has persisted ever since.

    Eliyah C.on the net!

    #8562
    Eliyah
    Participant

    The short form of the Name is “” Yah “” not, “” Jah “”, as the letter ” J ” is a recent invention from the letter ” I “.

    Eliyah C.

    #8564
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi e,
    Thank you.
    YHWH never spelled His name.The name is a description of His nature. It was changed by the Jews out of respect for the name and since then many changes have ensued.
    Do you say that when the Jews changed the name they then became idolaters and worshipped another god? That is strange because Yeshua seemed to support their worship as that of His Father though the Pharisees and scribes he accused of doing so.
    He laid no such accusation at the doors of the average Israelite.

    #8565
    Eliyah
    Participant

    Nick, You said “”

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    Hi e,
    Thank you.
    YHWH never spelled His name.The name is a description of His nature. It was changed by the Jews out of respect for the name and since then many changes have ensued.
    Do you say that when the Jews changed the name they then became idolaters and worshipped another god? That is strange because Yeshua seemed to support their worship as that of His Father though the Pharisees and scribes he accused of doing so.
    He laid no such accusation at the doors of the average Israelite.

    No, He did not lay such claim to the average Israelite, that is because the average Israelite was ignorant of the Father's true Name, as the religious leaders were NOT ignorant, but would not teach His true Name to the common People out tradition to not speak the Father's true Name except 3 times a year.

    The religious leaders of Messiah's day forbid the use of the Father's true Name, that is WHY John the Baptist CAME PREACHING IN THE WILDERNESS, for John DID Proclaim the Name of YAHWEH( See.original texts of Isa.40:3, the name YHWH=YAHWEH), as is written verbatim by ( Matt.3:1-3; Mark 1:2-3; Luke 3:4; John 1:23).

    Compare and Look at ( Isa.40:3) in thee original texts, “” Make way for YHWH=3068) “”, Isaiah or John never used the Hebrew word ” Adonay “, and neither did they use the English word of ” lord ” there either.

    The Messiah also spoke the Father's true Name, that is WHY the religious leaders accused Him of Blasphemy and tried to kill him on several occasions for speaking it in public to the common people.

    It was also forbidden in Paul's day too, that is WHY he asked those questions in ( Rom.10:9-15).

    Eliyah C. revealing truth of the true scriptures.

    #8566
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi e,
    I must say it seems a little odd that what you judge as blasphemous Jesus does not seem to have made a big issue out of?

    #8567
    Eliyah
    Participant

    Now, the religious leaders of Messiah's day forbid the Father's Name to be spoken, but Yahshua( Scriptural Hebrew of Name) or Yeshua certainly did speak and proclaim as He said ( John 17:26).

    Isn't it strange, or is it satan the devil's influence on modern christianity that also wants to forbid to call the true Creator by His Set Apart name, which He gave to Himself, and is also the Name that true believers are kept in( John 17:11-12) ?

    I know and realize that it is hard to ” STOP ” using pagan titles over night, but we must REPENT and STOP using them, as the True Holy Father Yah seeks those who worship Him in spirit AND IN TRUTH OF SCRIPTURES, and His truth of scriptures absolute forbids a person to even mention pagan idol image deities( Exod.23:13; Joshua 23:7) out of our mouths.

    Eliyah C.

    #8568
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi e,
    Jn 17 25
    ” O righteous Father, although the world has not known Thee, yet I have known Thee; and these have known that Thou didst send me; and I have made Thy name known to them, and will make it known; that the love wherewith Thou didst love me may be in them, and I in them”

    In context it seems likely that the word “name” used here is equivalent to our God whom the name represents. Jesus is not recorded as teaching at any length specifically on the Name of our God and your interpretation puts a perverse slant on the true meaning in my view.

    #8569
    Eliyah
    Participant

    Nick, You ignored those texts of scriptures I quoted in thee above post, your full of bull Nick.

    I showed you before where Messiah quoted ( Deut.8:3) in ( Matt.4:4; Luke 4:4).

    And here are You some more to LOOK UP, or are you so full of bull that you ignore to LOOK THEM UP IN ORIGINAL TEXTS??

    There are MANY EXAMPLES where Messiah taught and used the true Father's Name YHWH=YAHWEH in thee original texts of scriptures.

    Compare ( Matt.4:10) with ( Deut.6:13).
    Compare( Matt.21:42) with ( Psalms 118:23)
    Compare( Mark 7:6) with ( Isa.29:13)
    Compare( Luke 20:37) with ( Exod.3:4-6)
    Compare( John 6:45) with ( Isa.54:13)

    How many more do you require Mr. Baal teacher??

    Your a LIAR NICK, and your dis-honest with scriptures too!!

    LOOK THEM UP MR. BAAL, you have been dis-proved and found out to be a LIAR.

    Eliyah C. Exposing Modern day teachers and Administrators of Baalism.

    #8570
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hmmm..Judge not eliyah. Perhaps ye be not found perfect in your ways too?

    #8572
    Eliyah
    Participant

    Be ye therefore PERFECT as the Father Yah( Psalms 68:4) in Heaven is perfect.

    Who said that??

    You ” judge yourself out of your own mouth “”.

    Who said that ?

    Yet if I judge from false teachings, I use righteous( from the torah) judgment.

    Who said that too?

    Eliyah C. still on the net!

    #8580
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Most of us are still works in progress eliyah.

    #8604
    Eliyah
    Participant

    We are all still doing that Nick, its just that some are a little closer than others, and some are a little slower that others.

    #8617
    david
    Participant

    humble. Nice.

    #8629
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (Eliyah @ Sep. 12 2005,06:11)
    We are all still doing that Nick, its just that some are a little closer than others, and some are a little slower that others.


    Hi e,
    Are you the close one and all us a little slow in your opinion?

    #8630
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi e,
    Your views on these matters cause you to be spectacularly intolerant of others. You may have some truths to share but demanding immediate acceptance of them and dominating the forums in such an aggressive fashion can make communication limited in it's effectiveness. Anyone using words that you find offensive seems to come under personal attack.
    I guess you expect to be rejected as usual but that is not our way but we understand your position and would plead for a little more tolerance for us ? more ignorant mortals.

    #8633
    Eliyah
    Participant

    Nick, Why do you read everything I write, and then you twist it, and take it the WRONG way ??

    Oh, well, take all the time you need, but remember time is short like a vapor.

    Eliyah C.

    #8645
    BrandonIke
    Participant

    i feel like dying, people. how can it be this way? we are 4 men i think on this forum on the internet, 2,000 years or so after jesus. how can it be this way?

    where is the truth? there are 6 billion people on this earth or so, how can it be this way? paganism and garbage.

    we must work together and follow the laws set by our heavenly Father. how did it get this way?

    how can we have such discussions 2,000 years or so after jesus? where is the true church we may go to?

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