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Someone ask exactly what does a win in Afghanistan look like? Here is what it would look like to me.
Children able to play outside without fear. People eating three times a day. Schools open and kids learning how to take care of their families and not about how to destroy one another. Fresh sweet water for everyone. Gardens growing and happy people living and enjoying life. That is what a win looks like. Are the good times really over for good for Afghanistan? For America? I pray we can turn it around but in my darkest hour I am not so sure. But then I remember that God is not going to let us destroy everything. He will take charge when the time is right. I can almost hear the approaching hoof beats. Can you?
Hi E,
How can another country “win” and impose it's ideas of justice on another sovereign country while it supports torture?
Afganistan can never be conquered as it has always proven over all of it's painful history.
The world can only be put to rights by King Jesus.Hi Nick:
Do you not understand that the goal of these Muslim radicals is to impose Sharia Law on the entire world? Should we just leave Afganistan and allow the safe haven for them that was there before?
Do you remember 9/11 and the twin towers in New York?
And what about what these animals are doing to women in Africa?
Thank God, that there will be a day of justice, when God will intervene against them.
Love in Christ,
MartyApart from the 'god stops us from destroying everything' nonsense, evah is right. A problem still to be overcome is economic development. Afghanistan has always been an important geographical cross-roads but has been blighted by invasions, from that of Genghis Khan to British interference in the early C20th.
Today I imagine you have thousands of people, young Afghanis, who only know warfare and who might see it as a possible life's purpose, fired by islamism. Give them something productive to do, like selling opium for medical use, precious metal and petroleum mining, or solving the fresh water problem they have.
The Taleban wants Mohammed in charge, Nick wants Jesus in charge. There is most of the problem right there.
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Oct. 07 2009,18:27) The Taleban wants Mohammed in charge, Nick wants Jesus in charge. There is most of the problem right there. Stuart
Amen!Quote (eveh @ Oct. 07 2009,11:51) Someone ask exactly what does a win in Afghanistan look like? Here is what it would look like to me. Children able to play outside without fear. People eating three times a day. Schools open and kids learning how to take care of their families and not about how to destroy one another. Fresh sweet water for everyone. Gardens growing and happy people living and enjoying life. That is what a win looks like. Are the good times really over for good for Afghanistan? For America? I pray we can turn it around but in my darkest hour I am not so sure. But then I remember that God is not going to let us destroy everything. He will take charge when the time is right. I can almost hear the approaching hoof beats. Can you?
I live in America.Quote Children able to play outside without fear. People eating three times a day. Schools open and kids learning how to take care of their families and not about how to destroy one another. Fresh sweet water for everyone. Gardens growing and happy people living and enjoying life. That is what a win looks like. Are the good times really over for good for Afghanistan? For America? I pray we can turn it around but in my darkest hour I am not so sure. But then I remember that God is not going to let us destroy everything. He will take charge when the time is right. I can almost hear the approaching hoof beats. Can you? Most of that does not even happen in America. No offence.
Quote (kejonn @ Oct. 09 2009,16:43) Quote (Stu @ Oct. 07 2009,18:27) The Taleban wants Mohammed in charge, Nick wants Jesus in charge. There is most of the problem right there. Stuart
Amen!
I disagree because having Mohammed in charge means probably going to war to do it.Having Jesus in charge means that you follow his teachings. Of course he said that we shouldn't kill, or fight against flesh and blood.
So having Jesus in charge is really a matter of letting him be lord of your life and let him rule. It is not about violently imposing his rule because once you try that, you are not letting him rule at all.
If you try to oppose what I say by pointing out religious history, my answer to you is that men with evil intent will use religion, science, or any other thing to further their goals. In this case you know them by their fruits.
Not all who say lord lord, will enter the kingdom.
Quote (942767 @ Oct. 08 2009,09:04) Hi Nick: Do you not understand that the goal of these Muslim radicals is to impose Sharia Law on the entire world? Should we just leave Afganistan and allow the safe haven for them that was there before?
Do you remember 9/11 and the twin towers in New York?
And what about what these animals are doing to women in Africa?
Thank God, that there will be a day of justice, when God will intervene against them.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Hi 94,
Does the paranoia of the USA justify invasion of other countries?Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 10 2009,05:25) Quote (942767 @ Oct. 08 2009,09:04) Hi Nick: Do you not understand that the goal of these Muslim radicals is to impose Sharia Law on the entire world? Should we just leave Afganistan and allow the safe haven for them that was there before?
Do you remember 9/11 and the twin towers in New York?
And what about what these animals are doing to women in Africa?
Thank God, that there will be a day of justice, when God will intervene against them.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Hi 94,
Does the paranoia of the USA justify invasion of other countries?
Hi Nick:I am going back and forth with you on this one. Perhaps these radical Muslims will one day be at your door step, and then you might understand.
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 10 2009,09:23) Hi 94,
Is your focus really on the world and the powers of men?
Hi Nick:My commission is to go into all of the world and preach the gospel, and that is the way that I fight.
But God also, uses human govenments in law enforcement.
Quote Rom 13:1 ¶ Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Rom 13:2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
Rom 13:3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
Rom 13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to [execute] wrath upon him that doeth evil.
Rom 13:5 Wherefore [ye] must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
Rom 13:6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.
Where would the world be if Hitler would have been allowed to continue in his quest?
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (eveh @ Oct. 08 2009,06:51) Someone ask exactly what does a win in Afghanistan look like? Here is what it would look like to me. Children able to play outside without fear. People eating three times a day. Schools open and kids learning how to take care of their families and not about how to destroy one another. Fresh sweet water for everyone. Gardens growing and happy people living and enjoying life. That is what a win looks like. Are the good times really over for good for Afghanistan? For America? I pray we can turn it around but in my darkest hour I am not so sure. But then I remember that God is not going to let us destroy everything. He will take charge when the time is right. I can almost hear the approaching hoof beats. Can you?
The main thing that will stop us from destroying everything is that we'll likely essentially destroy ourselves first.To humans, a catastrophe (though I think it's unlikely we'd go entirely extinct) – to the planet, most likely just another little blip in a long and interesting history.
People need food and water just as much as animals do. More in fact with water, since animals don't tend to boost their population by using water to artificially produce more food (agriculture).
Can't really say I was aware that they'd ever had good times in recent history in Afghanistan! Certainly nothing like the wanton wastefulness and luxury enjoyed in America (not by everyone I grant) – I know where my sympathy lies.
Quote (t8 @ Oct. 10 2009,02:22) Quote (kejonn @ Oct. 09 2009,16:43) Quote (Stu @ Oct. 07 2009,18:27) The Taleban wants Mohammed in charge, Nick wants Jesus in charge. There is most of the problem right there. Stuart
Amen!
I disagree because having Mohammed in charge means probably going to war to do it.Having Jesus in charge means that you follow his teachings. Of course he said that we shouldn't kill, or fight against flesh and blood.
So having Jesus in charge is really a matter of letting him be lord of your life and let him rule. It is not about violently imposing his rule because once you try that, you are not letting him rule at all.
If you try to oppose what I say by pointing out religious history, my answer to you is that men with evil intent will use religion, science, or any other thing to further their goals. In this case you know them by their fruits.
Not all who say lord lord, will enter the kingdom.
So Jesus believers DIDN'T go to war, letting Jesus rule you life is DIFFERENT from letting Mohammed rule your life, and all those people who do stuff in the name of EITHER are not proper believers.What Afghanistan most needs is a secular constitution and an army to defend it, like Turkey.
Stuart
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 10 2009,09:37) Hi 94,
Your fears do not fit with your faith do they?
Nick:I don't fear what any man can do to me, but neither do I want to die before my time.
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 10 2009,11:50) Hi 94,
God does not watch over you?
[ps 91]
Yes, he does. As I have already stated, He uses govenments to punish evil doers, and that is part of His protection, and it is also part of the reason that I have the freedom to worship my God freely.Love in Christ,
MartyHi 94,
So is it by might and power or by the Spirit?
Does anything happen that God does not have influence over?Quote (t8 @ Oct. 09 2009,09:22) I disagree because having Mohammed in charge means probably going to war to do it. Having Jesus in charge means that you follow his teachings. Of course he said that we shouldn't kill, or fight against flesh and blood.
So having Jesus in charge is really a matter of letting him be lord of your life and let him rule. It is not about violently imposing his rule because once you try that, you are not letting him rule at all.
If you try to oppose what I say by pointing out religious history, my answer to you is that men with evil intent will use religion, science, or any other thing to further their goals. In this case you know them by their fruits.
Not all who say lord lord, will enter the kingdom.
Mat 10:34 “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 10 2009,13:18) Hi 94,
So is it by might and power or by the Spirit?
Does anything happen that God does not have influence over?
Does God influence evil? Is He then a partaker of men's sins?
He does allow it, and sometimes, he uses the evil that men do to punish evil always with the hope of men coming to repentance.Love in Christ,
Marty
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