We tend to underestimate Satan

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Do not underestimate satan.

Satan is full of wisdom Ez.2:12.13.
And he has thousands of years to work out his plan on earth.
He has managed to infiltrate all avenues,including the churches.

He has not left one stone unturned.
For this reason we must be very careful not to fall into his trap,wich many has gone in.
He always comes as an angel of light,preaching holiness.
But the purpose is, to deny the thirsty the spiritual waters.

This is the reason why we should totally depend on scriptures alone.

He also has created many books and videos of teachings to take us away from reading the scriptures.But once knowledge has been achieved,one can read any book.
It can not sway us.

He is ruling over governments and has set up many places of worship,and many religions,so called christians and non christians,for he is very cunning indeed.

He has truly taken care of them and blessing them with material things,and making them think that the blessings comes from God.

The world hates anything of God,this only means that the true churches are not popular in this world.
Christ said” and they shall hate you because they hated me”.

The world loves its own; if we are with the world ,the world will love us,we will be popular.
Therefore we must come out of babylon,and put on the spirit of Christ.

True believers must expect ridicule, and looked up on, as weak and stupid.They will push the teachers into a corner.
The truth is not seen as light,because they can not comprehend the light,and will not be in the light.

Because the light will only reveal their evil deeds.

The world is in darkness and the darkness can not comprehend the light,because God has blinded them.

God has let satan do his work on earth to bring evil to the
maximum,before evil will be destroyed,and soon will be.
But the falling away must come first.

What must we do?
Jesus said ”feed on my flesh,so you can have life everlasting John 6:54–56.meaning;study the scriptures.
Do not feed on strange flesh,for you will be fed by satan,
and his flesh will bring you death.

We only have a few more years,and the man of perdition will be revealed,the false prophet.
Then the persecutions of the believers will start.
This will be the great tribulation.

Stay strong,for he will only be for a very short time.
All christians; dont consider your fleshly life; for it must end anyway one day.
Dont fear him that can destroy the flesh,but can not touch the soul,but fear him that can destroy the flesh and the soul,and cast them into hell.

Our few years of sufferings is not compared to what the reward will be.
A woman that is in labour to bring forth a child will soon forget her pain, but as soon as the child is born,she will rejoice,and forget her sufferings.

So will we be after the tribulation.
We will rejoice in the Lord.
Many have already died in the Lord,and if they can do it, why not us.

This generation has been chosen by God to show us the great day of the coming, wich many generations have waited for,and longed for,and prayed for.

We will see him with our eyes coming in clouds and glory.
Lets be properly dressed to meet him,and not be seen in filthy clothing. Lets washed ourselves and put on clean robes.

Satan has no power to take us away from the palm of Gods hands,no matter what he does.

Lets spend these last years feeding on the flesh of Christ,so we can be filled. So we can be one with him.
Nothing else can be more important.

Put God first,and the rest will follow.
He will give us a little help as we go through the tribulation.
He will not leave us un aided.

Always praising God in truth every day.
Everything is in his control;even satan.
God will decide when the false prophet will be revealed,and
soon he will be revealed,after the falling away.

Lets praise God and his son. Amen.

wakeup.

March 6, 2013 at 10:30 pm#337524

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Amen Wakeup but I just have one thing to add, or say.

How do you not know that the man of sin is invisible and is in spirit form?

March 7, 2013 at 2:44 am#337555

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Quote (2besee @ Mar. 07 2013,08:30)

Amen Wakeup but I just have one thing to add, or say.

How do you not know that the man of sin is invisible and is in spirit form?

2Besee.

The son of perdition is *A MAN*;and he will be revealed to the true believers. he is not a spirit creature,although satan is in him,aiding him with his power.

2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that *MAN OF SIN* be **REVEALED**, the son of perdition:

wakeup.

March 7, 2013 at 9:05 am#337597

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Wakeup, Maybe there is an actual man and also a spiritual side to it.

For example, here is one of my posts when I was looking into it once:

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What or who is the man of sin of 2nd Thess 3?

These are my thoughts.

We have the scriptures, and these have gone around the world in fulfillment of prophecy and many people have been saved, for the day of salvation is now.
What happened was that “false prophets, wolves in sheep's clothing, seducing spirits, and doctrines of demons” crept in.

But now we are in 'this time'.
2nd Thess – 'The Man of Sin' takes his seat in the temple of God.
What or where is the temple of God?

“Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the spirit of God dwells in you?” 1Cor 3:16
“If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy him. For God’s temple is holy, and you are that temple.” 1Cor 3:17
“Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, which you have from God? You are not your own” 1Cor 6:19

“Let no one deceive you in any way; for that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.
Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you this?
And you know what is restraining him now so that he may be revealed in his time.
For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains it will do so until he is out of the way.”

The temple of God is the body.
What is IN the temple of God?
The Holy Spirit.
What is the restrainer of sin?
The Holy Spirit.
What is taken away?..

Something takes it's place.

'When you see the abomination standing in the Holy Place (let the reader understand)'

Watch kundalini warning for a starter, and research the experiences of those who are still trying to battle against this spirit.
I have witnessed this, I have seen the deception.
It has to do with SIN.

This could tie in with 2nd Thes.3 — this being only the beginning.

Jesus will come at a time when is least expected

1Thes.5

But as to the times and the seasons, brethren, you have no need to have anything written to you.
[2] For you yourselves know well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.
[3] When people say, “There is peace and security,” then sudden destruction will come upon them as travail comes upon a woman with child, and there will be no escape.
[4] But you are not in darkness, brethren, for that day to surprise you like a thief.
[5] For you are all sons of light and sons of the day; we are not of the night or of darkness.
[6] So then let us not sleep, as others do, but let us keep awake and be sober.
[7] For those who sleep sleep at night, and those who get drunk are drunk at night.
[8] But, since we belong to the day, let us be sober, and put on the breastplate of faith and love, and for a helmet the hope of salvation.
[9] For God has not destined us for wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ,
[10] who died for us so that whether we wake or sleep we might live with him.
[11] Therefore encourage one another and build one another up, just as you are doing.

I believe that this will be a spiritual battle and unless the time is cut short, no flesh (men) would be saved (reach salvation) because of the huge deception that will take place.
I believe that it will be a battle for minds and hearts.

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That is not to say that there could also be an actual man in Jerusalem, who makes himself out to be the Son of God (messiah) though He is not really.

Do you hear what I am meaning?

March 7, 2013 at 10:25 am#337602

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2Besee.

The war is spiritual for the christians,because they have to make up their minds, to take the mark or not to take.
To the world its is a great war with an armie of 200,000,000.
rev.9:16.two hundred thousand,and thousand.

Israels dream still is today to rebuild the temple, and *he*,the son of perdirion will make it happen for israel.

So this temple is not for the christians,but for israel.
We are indeed the temple of God,I agree.

wakeup.

March 8, 2013 at 11:09 am#337697

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Hi Wakeup,
So then you agree that the temple in Jerusalem and the temple of the body are two different things?

So then, what do WE need to beware of. IYO?

March 9, 2013 at 1:49 am#337734

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Quote (2besee @ Mar. 08 2013,21:09)

Hi Wakeup,
So then you agree that the temple in Jerusalem and the temple of the body are two different things?

So then, what do WE need to beware of. IYO?

2Besee.

The temple will be build in Jerusalem,but it has to be in the same spot where the dome is.

To rebuild the temple;the dome must be destroyed.
Only the false prophet dares to do this,and his army will.
This will be the cause of the great war,but still not harmageddon,but the 3th ww.

wakeup.

March 9, 2013 at 8:04 am#337769

Participant

Hi Wakeup,

Q. What is the dome of the rock doing on the temple mount?
A. Fulfilling “Bible Prophecy”!

“But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not,
(let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:” (Mark 13:14)

“false prophets (Rev.13:11 is about Muhammad) shall rise, and
shall show signs (Rev.13:13 is about the quran) and wonders, to seduce” (Mark 13:22)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

March 9, 2013 at 9:50 am#337781

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Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 09 2013,13:49)

Quote (2besee @ Mar. 08 2013,21:09)

Hi Wakeup,
So then you agree that the temple in Jerusalem and the temple of the body are two different things?

So then, what do WE need to beware of. IYO?

2Besee.

The temple will be build in Jerusalem,but it has to be in the same spot where the dome is.

To rebuild the temple;the dome must be destroyed.
Only the false prophet dares to do this,and his army will.
This will be the cause of the great war,but still not harmageddon,but the 3th ww.

wakeup.

Wakeup, what if that never happens?
What if instead “micro-chipping” becomes the dominating “force” against Christianity and then after it all “Jesus” comes back and sits on the throne in a temple in Jerusalem… Would you believe after all of the suffering that you have been through that it is actually Him?

How do you understand these words:

[23] Then if any one says to you, `Lo, here is the Christ!' or `There he is!' do not believe it.
[24] For false Christs and false prophets will arise and show great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.
[25] Lo, I have told you beforehand.
[26] So, if they say to you, `Lo, he is in the wilderness,' do not go out; if they say, `Lo, he is in the inner rooms,' do not believe it.
[27] For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of man.
[28] Wherever the body is, there the eagles will be gathered together.

Can you explain to me how you understand that.

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If you forget about micro-chipping etc for a moment, how can Satan influence Christians right now?

March 9, 2013 at 10:01 am#337782

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Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 07 2013,08:30)

Dont fear him that can destroy the flesh,but can not touch the soul,but fear him that can destroy the flesh and the soul,and cast them into hell.

Wakeup, one more question

What do you believe “hell” is?
Do you believe in eternal conscious torment?

March 9, 2013 at 10:25 am#337783

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Quote (2besee @ Mar. 09 2013,19:50)

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 09 2013,13:49)

Quote (2besee @ Mar. 08 2013,21:09)

Hi Wakeup,
So then you agree that the temple in Jerusalem and the temple of the body are two different things?

So then, what do WE need to beware of. IYO?

2Besee.

The temple will be build in Jerusalem,but it has to be in the same spot where the dome is.

To rebuild the temple;the dome must be destroyed.
Only the false prophet dares to do this,and his army will.
This will be the cause of the great war,but still not harmageddon,but the 3th ww.

wakeup.

How do you understand these words:

Can you explain to me how you understand that.

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If you forget about micro-chipping etc for a moment, how can Satan influence Christians right now?

2Besee.

Prophesying the second coming of Christ has been done by man, many times over,so dont believe it. Or ; Jesus can come at any time,this is also false, so dont go for it.

So go by the prophecies.
I have been listening and watching them,and none are right according to prophecies.All are in error.

That new temple will be destroyed at the coming, and so will be all the cities of the nations.rev.16:19.(babylon the great).

Satan can not influence the true christians,because of their strong foundation,but will influence all the lay back christians,through their belly, and through fear.

wakeup.

March 9, 2013 at 10:46 am#337786

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Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 09 2013,20:25)

Prophesying the second coming of Christ has been done by man, many times over, so don't believe it.

AMEN to that!

March 9, 2013 at 11:15 am#337788

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Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 09 2013,20:46)

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 09 2013,20:25)

Prophesying the second coming of Christ has been done by man, many times over, so don't believe it.

AMEN to that!

Hi EDJ.

If one follows the prophecies,and given the spirit of truth,
one can know the week of the second coming.
do you believe this?

wakeup.

March 9, 2013 at 5:59 pm#337805

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Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 09 2013,21:15)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 09 2013,20:46)

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 09 2013,20:25)

Prophesying the second coming of Christ has been done by man, many times over, so don't believe it.

AMEN to that!

Hi EDJ.

If one follows the prophecies,and given the spirit of truth,
one can know the week of the second coming.
do you believe this?

wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

Jesus second coming occurred (in spirit form) on “Pentecost”. (Link)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

March 9, 2013 at 10:06 pm#337830

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Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 10 2013,04:59)

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 09 2013,21:15)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 09 2013,20:46)

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 09 2013,20:25)

Prophesying the second coming of Christ has been done by man, many times over, so don't believe it.

AMEN to that!

Hi EDJ.

If one follows the prophecies,and given the spirit of truth,
one can know the week of the second coming.
do you believe this?

wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

Jesus second coming occurred (in spirit form) on “Pentecost”. (Link)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDj.

I am pretty sure all here will disagree with that.

Are you really saying that the next coming would be the 3th coming?

1st coming=his birth.
2nd coming=pantecost.
3rd coming=his coming soon in the clouds,when every eye shall see him.
Do you really believe this?
How far from the truth has the science of numbers taken you.
You can see them by the fruits.
And your fruits are not good.

wakeup.

March 10, 2013 at 8:01 am#337917

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Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 09 2013,22:25)

Quote (2besee @ Mar. 09 2013,19:50)

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 09 2013,13:49)

Quote (2besee @ Mar. 08 2013,21:09)

Hi Wakeup,
So then you agree that the temple in Jerusalem and the temple of the body are two different things?

So then, what do WE need to beware of. IYO?

2Besee.

The temple will be build in Jerusalem,but it has to be in the same spot where the dome is.

To rebuild the temple;the dome must be destroyed.
Only the false prophet dares to do this,and his army will.
This will be the cause of the great war,but still not harmageddon,but the 3th ww.

wakeup.

How do you understand these words:

Can you explain to me how you understand that.

——————-

If you forget about micro-chipping etc for a moment, how can Satan influence Christians right now?

2Besee.

Prophesying the second coming of Christ has been done by man, many times over,so dont believe it. Or ; Jesus can come at any time,this is also false, so dont go for it.

So go by the prophecies.
I have been listening and watching them,and none are right according to prophecies.All are in error.

That new temple will be destroyed at the coming, and so will be all the cities of the nations.rev.16:19.(babylon the great).

Satan can not influence the true christians,because of their strong foundation,but will influence all the lay back christians,through their belly, and through fear.

wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,
So what do you think this means:

'For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of man.
Wherever the body is, there the eagles will be gathered together.'

March 10, 2013 at 9:05 am#337924

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Quote (2besee @ Mar. 10 2013,19:01)

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 09 2013,22:25)

Quote (2besee @ Mar. 09 2013,19:50)

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 09 2013,13:49)

Quote (2besee @ Mar. 08 2013,21:09)

Hi Wakeup,
So then you agree that the temple in Jerusalem and the temple of the body are two different things?

So then, what do WE need to beware of. IYO?

2Besee.

The temple will be build in Jerusalem,but it has to be in the same spot where the dome is.

To rebuild the temple;the dome must be destroyed.
Only the false prophet dares to do this,and his army will.
This will be the cause of the great war,but still not harmageddon,but the 3th ww.

wakeup.

How do you understand these words:

Can you explain to me how you understand that.

——————-

If you forget about micro-chipping etc for a moment, how can Satan influence Christians right now?

2Besee.

Prophesying the second coming of Christ has been done by man, many times over,so dont believe it. Or ; Jesus can come at any time,this is also false, so dont go for it.

So go by the prophecies.
I have been listening and watching them,and none are right according to prophecies.All are in error.

That new temple will be destroyed at the coming, and so will be all the cities of the nations.rev.16:19.(babylon the great).

Satan can not influence the true christians,because of their strong foundation,but will influence all the lay back christians,through their belly, and through fear.

wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,
So what do you think this means:

'For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of man.
Wherever the body is, there the eagles will be gathered together.'

2Besee.

The 7th trumpet will sound,and we will see a flash of lightning;and will see the Lord and his angels in the clouds.

Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

He will destroy babylon from the air,and it will only take one day.
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Wheresoever the carcas is ;there the eagles also will be gathered.
Where the dead bodie is there the vultures will be gathered.

Where evil is performed;there evil man will be gather.

wakeup.

March 10, 2013 at 4:03 pm#337939

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Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 10 2013,09:06)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 10 2013,04:59)

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 09 2013,21:15)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 09 2013,20:46)

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 09 2013,20:25)

Prophesying the second coming of Christ has been done by man, many times over, so don't believe it.

AMEN to that!

Hi EDJ.

If one follows the prophecies,and given the spirit of truth,
one can know the week of the second coming.
do you believe this?

wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

Jesus second coming occurred (in spirit form) on “Pentecost”. (Link)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDj.

I am pretty sure all here will disagree with that.

(1)Are you really saying that the next coming would be the 3th coming?

1st coming=his birth.
2nd coming=pantecost.
3rd coming=his coming soon in the clouds,when every eye shall see him.
Do you really believe this?
(2)How far from the truth has the science of numbers taken you.
You can see them by the fruits.
(3)And your fruits are not good.

wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

1) No third coming
2) Huh?
3) Opinion

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

March 10, 2013 at 4:03 pm#337940

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Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 10 2013,09:06)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 10 2013,04:59)

Hi Wakeup,

Jesus second coming occurred (in spirit form) on “Pentecost”. (Link)

God bless
Ed J

EDj.

I am pretty sure all here will disagree with that.

wakeup.

Hi Wakeup, You are presenting Logic Fallacy # 1 & 2. (Link)

Three big logic fallacies that I see presented here:

1. Opinions: opinions are presented as evidence.
2. Scenarios: scenarios are presented as proof.
3. Consensus: consensus is seen as conformation.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

March 10, 2013 at 9:10 pm#337984