WAS jESUS RESURRECTED IN THE FLESH,

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  • #327466
    Wakeup
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    Some believe that Jesus was resurrected in the flesh.
    This boggles my mind. This only shows that the christian world is in satans pocket.

    When one is resurrected,he is quickened,meaning
    turned into spirit. This corruptible is done away with.

    The hand and body that use to kill, or steal, or do all sorts of evil,can not be preserved for ever.
    Jesus is clear about this.

    Matthew 22:30 FOR IN THE RESURRECTION they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, BUT ARE AS THE ANGELS OF GOD IN HEAVEN.

    ARE THE ANGELS FLESH OR SPIRIT? HOW CAN SOME CONTRADICT THIS VERSE AND FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT?

    If we are made as the angels of God in heaven; then why on earth would Jesus be made in the flesh?
    Why make him inferior to us and the angels?

    Was he not made much better than the angels?(heb 1.).
    Was not the angels told to worship him?
    The flesh is inferior in substance to spirit.
    Flesh can bleed,or break,or burn.

    Is he sitting next to his Father clocked in flesh?
    Can flesh and blood enter heaven? NO.
    We can not contradict Jesus words; he said flesh and blood can NOT ENTER the kingdom of heaven.

    What are we doing preaching the contrary to Jesus.
    Are we for, or against him?
    Did jesus show himself to paul in the flesh,or spirit?

    Whenever two or more are together in his name; He will be IN THE MIDS. Has anyone ever seen Jesus siting next to anyone discussing the scriptures? Why not;because he is spirit.

    Well, if he is flesh why not,why can we not see him?

    Just because Jesus showed his hands to the apostles,does not mean that he is still flesh.

    He had to proof to thomas that he is really Jesus. And for us also,believing the account.
    He can not be shown in a spirit body;because thomas wanted to see the wounds. So Jesus showed him the wounds. which a spirit can do; materialise and dematerialise.

    This has been displayed many times by the angels;so why should it be different with Jesus?
    Even the fallen angels materialised in the days of enoch,and had children with women,and bore children.
    They had to materialise to do the job.

    To believe that Jesus is risen in the flesh is denying the quickening of the flesh.
    We will not be in the flesh once we are resurrected.

    We will be as the angels in heaven.And our Holy brother Jesus also,but he is first before us.

    The scriptures says in John 6:53–56 that we need to eath his flesh; are we considered cannibals,are we expected to chew on his flesh,and drink blood?

    This strange doctrine is to cover the hole that they have created in their doctrine,because they could not fit in Isaiah 65.where the lion will eat straw,and man are still dying after a 100yrs.

    They did not know that the jews will be brought back in the flesh, and that paradise will be restored.
    They could not see, that in the resurrection; there will be a resurrection of the saints in spirit, and also the resurrection of the jews in the flesh.

    This is in the first resurrection.
    This has never come to their mind.
    God never lies,for he said; the land is desolate.
    It is indeed desolate.

    wakeup.

    #327481
    2besee
    Participant

    Wakeup,
    You are really scared! The truth scares you.

    Is Jesus an Angel now? Is that all that He is – an Angel?

    #327482
    2besee
    Participant

    So you are a little bit of JW, a little bit of Armstrong, a bit of this and a bit of that, hmm?

    Tell me the truth Wakeup. How many books did you read to gain your understanding?

    #327492
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2013,22:11)
    Some believe that Jesus was resurrected in the flesh.
    This boggles my mind. This only shows that the christian world is in satans pocket.

    wakeup.


    Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I my(flesh)self:
    handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

    #327493
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2013,22:11)
    Is he sitting next to his Father clocked in flesh?

    wakeup.


    You bet! In us.

    (Pentecost) “If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him,
    and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” (John 14:23)

    #327494
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2013,22:11)
    Can flesh and blood enter heaven? NO.


    Hi Wakeup,

    “Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God” (1 Cor 15:50)
    You agreed with me that the word “Flesh” means carnal mind. (forgot which thread?)


                         Now about the blood part

    We all had Adams blood, but the blood of Christ cleanses us.

    (The Passover) (Lev.17:11) For the life of the flesh is in the blood:
    and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement
    for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.

    (The Passover) 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
    (Pentecost) 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
    (Feast of Tabernacles) 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God,
    even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. (1 Cor 15:22-24)

                  Thy Kingdom Come , thy will be done
                        (Pentecost)      (Feast of Tabernacles)

    Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying,
    The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our LORD(YHVH),
    and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #327495
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2013,22:11)
    We can not contradict Jesus words; he said flesh and blood can NOT ENTER the kingdom of heaven.

    wakeup.


    Those were Paul's words. (see my previous post)

    #327520
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ Jan. 11 2013,23:09)
    Wakeup,
    You are really scared! The truth scares you.

    Is Jesus an Angel now? Is that all that He is – an Angel?


    2Besee.

    He is made higher than the angels,he is given charge,of all things.

    wakeup.

    #327551
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2013,20:33)

    Quote (2besee @ Jan. 11 2013,23:09)
    Wakeup,
    You are really scared! The truth scares you.

    Is Jesus an Angel now? Is that all that He is – an Angel?


    2Besee.

    He is made higher than the angels,he is given charge,of all things.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    Be careful not to confuse authority with kind.

    #327559
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ Jan. 11 2013,23:12)
    So you are a little bit of JW, a little bit of Armstrong, a bit of this and a bit of that, hmm?

    Tell me the truth Wakeup. How many books did you read to gain your understanding?


    2besee.

    All you need is more deep study.
    You have only scratched the surface.

    wakeup.

    #327560
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 11 2013,23:52)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2013,22:11)
    Can flesh and blood enter heaven? NO.


    Hi Wakeup,

    “Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God” (1 Cor 15:50)
    You agreed with me that the word “Flesh” means carnal mind. (forgot which thread?)


                         Now about the blood part

    We all had Adams blood, but the blood of Christ cleanses us.

    (The Passover) (Lev.17:11) For the life of the flesh is in the blood:
    and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement
    for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.

    (The Passover) 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
    (Pentecost) 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
    (Feast of Tabernacles) 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God,
    even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. (1 Cor 15:22-24)

                  Thy Kingdom Come , thy will be done
                        (Pentecost)      (Feast of Tabernacles)

    Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying,
    The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our LORD(YHVH),
    and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    You are just heaping up doctrines of your own.
    Believing in God, but denying his power.
    Your carnal mind is in the way.

    Flesh is flesh, and bone is bone,there is none such as spirit flesh. What is next?
    The mind of the world likes to invent things that he can not understand. The result is always confusion.

    wakeup.

    #327561
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 11 2013,23:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2013,22:11)
    Some believe that Jesus was resurrected in the flesh.
    This boggles my mind. This only shows that the christian world is in satans pocket.

    wakeup.


    Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I my(flesh)self:
    handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.


    EDJ

    Still blocked,can not see deeper than your skin.

    wakeup.

    #327562
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ Jan. 11 2013,23:12)
    So you are a little bit of JW, a little bit of Armstrong, a bit of this and a bit of that, hmm?

    Tell me the truth Wakeup. How many books did you read to gain your understanding?


    2Besee.

    One book;the Holy bible.
    The flesh of Christ.

    wakeup.

    #327564
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ Jan. 11 2013,23:09)
    Wakeup,
    You are really scared! The truth scares you.

    Is Jesus an Angel now? Is that all that He is – an Angel?


    2Besee.

    All you need to do is proof me wrong.

    wakeup.

    #327571
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2013,06:28)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 11 2013,23:52)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2013,22:11)
    Can flesh and blood enter heaven? NO.


    Hi Wakeup,

    “Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God” (1 Cor 15:50)
    You agreed with me that the word “Flesh” means carnal mind. (forgot which thread?)


                         Now about the blood part

    We all had Adams blood, but the blood of Christ cleanses us.

    (The Passover) (Lev.17:11) For the life of the flesh is in the blood:
    and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement
    for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.

    (The Passover) 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
    (Pentecost) 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
    (Feast of Tabernacles) 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God,
    even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. (1 Cor 15:22-24)

                  Thy Kingdom Come , thy will be done
                        (Pentecost)      (Feast of Tabernacles)

    Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying,
    The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our LORD(YHVH),
    and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    You are just heaping up doctrines of your own.
    Believing in God, but denying his power.
    Your carnal mind is in the way.

    Flesh is flesh, and bone is bone,there is none such as spirit flesh. What is next?
    The mind of the world likes to invent things that he can not understand. The result is always confusion.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    You never did a study on “The Seven Feasts of God”, have you?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #327572
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2013,06:31)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 11 2013,23:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2013,22:11)
    Some believe that Jesus was resurrected in the flesh.
    This boggles my mind. This only shows that the christian world is in satans pocket.

    wakeup.


    Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I my(flesh)self:
    handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.


    EDJ

    Still blocked,can not see deeper than your skin.

    wakeup.


    Did Job lie here?

    Job 19:26 And though after my skin worms destroy this body,
                     yet in my flesh shall I see God:

    #327573
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2013,06:33)

    Quote (2besee @ Jan. 11 2013,23:12)
    So you are a little bit of JW, a little bit of Armstrong, a bit of this and a bit of that, hmm?

    Tell me the truth Wakeup. How many books did you read to gain your understanding?


    2Besee.

    One book;the Holy bible.
    The flesh of Christ.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    So all the videos you watch don't count then, is that right?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #327574
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2013,06:44)

    Quote (2besee @ Jan. 11 2013,23:09)
    Wakeup,
    You are really scared! The truth scares you.

    Is Jesus an Angel now? Is that all that He is – an Angel?


    2Besee.

    All you need to do is proof me wrong.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    “For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak.” (Heb 2:5)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #327618
    Marlin1
    Participant

    Brother Wakeup,

    I believe you are wrong in your interpretation what Paul said in 1st Corinthains 15.  Paul was speaking of our flesh and our blood.  

    Paul also said that the 1st Adam was a living soul and the last Adam was a quickening Spirit.  So is Paul saying that Jesus wasn't a real man.  No, He was real, wasn't He.  So Paul was not saying that He was a Spirit only.

    What Paul was saying was that this fallen vessel that we are has to be changed.

    Scripture also tells us that Jesus in His flesh, came and walked and talked and ate with the disciples for 40 days.
    He was a real person, not a Spirit.  He was able to change and move with a thought or Word, just like we will be able to.  He is not limited by time or space and neither will we that are in Him.

    We will also be real people,  we will not be Angels, we were created man and will will always be man.
    We will be changed, in that there is no doubt.  In my flesh, I shall see God, just like Job.

    That is my two cents, brother.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #327626
    Ed J
    Participant

    Thanks Marlin!  :)

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