- This topic is empty.
- Posts
Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 08 2010,19:09) Quote (Stu @ Mar. 08 2010,19:02) Quote (t8 @ Mar. 08 2010,16:27) Quote (Stu @ Mar. 07 2010,20:17) So when the flu virus mutates before our eyes every year, how do you explain that evidence?
Your not listening Stu. It is still a virus. The changes are preserving it rather than making it a giraffe.
Next you will be telling me that a giraffe is the same as its last non-giraffe ancestor because they were both ungulates.I take it you believe that bird flu and swine flu were both hoaxes.
Stuart
Hi Stuart,Why do you compare viruses to People?
Do you 'think' you evolved from a 'virus'?It's really sad you believe such nonsense!
Especially when I have PROOF that God exists!
Shouldn't you be addressing that question to t8?Stuart
Stu, did you know that Darwin was an inbred?
Not his fault of course. Just saying.
Quote (t8 @ Mar. 12 2010,16:46) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHiX0FZcjkA
I understand that you subscribe to a conspiracy world of gods and demons analogous to the Matrix, t8, but does that include a view that humans are a cancer?Stuart
Oh yes, the Matrix. I should point out that we humans are not smart enough to create a Matrix style world because we lack the programming skills, interpreters, and hardware. Of course the lack of ability is further defined by the fact that some of these humans who profess to be intelligent actually think that the universe came about either by nothing or by something that had the IQ of zero. Wow. If only. We could activate a repeat and not have to bother with programming it all ourselves. Of course wishful thinking. But you are allowed to dream even if the dream is illogical.
You had your time Stu. The peak of your civilization ended in absolute ignorance.
It will soon be our time and it is already when you pass from this world.
Quote (t8 @ Oct. 04 2010,19:51) Except that humans tend to destroy their environment given time.
I guess it depends what you consider destruction, what you consider cancer, and whether you apply that blanket term to all or some. As a person living a Western lifestyle in a technological society I am putting a disproportionate strain on the environment.The changes we are causing are putting other species in peril. But it is a funny kind of cancer that has a conscience about it and begins to use its technology to find ways to limit its own damage.
Stuart
Quote (t8 @ Oct. 04 2010,19:59) Oh yes, the Matrix. I should point out that we humans are not smart enough to create a Matrix style world because we lack the programming skills, interpreters, and hardware. Of course the lack of ability is further defined by the fact that some of these humans who profess to be intelligent actually think that the universe came about either by nothing or by something that had the IQ of zero. Wow. If only. We could activate a repeat and not have to bother with programming it all ourselves. Of course wishful thinking. But you are allowed to dream even if the dream is illogical. You had your time Stu. The peak of your civilization ended in absolute ignorance.
It will soon be our time and it is already when you pass from this world.
I see that megalomania is a requirement for membership of this imaginary conspiracy world.Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Oct. 04 2010,20:05) I guess it depends what you consider destruction, what you consider cancer, and whether you apply that blanket term to all or some. As a person living a Western lifestyle in a technological society I am putting a disproportionate strain on the environment.
So we are good cancer?
Cancer with a conscience.Quote (t8 @ Oct. 04 2010,20:07) Quote (Stu @ Oct. 04 2010,20:05) I guess it depends what you consider destruction, what you consider cancer, and whether you apply that blanket term to all or some. As a person living a Western lifestyle in a technological society I am putting a disproportionate strain on the environment.
So we are good cancer?
Cancer with a conscience.
To the rest of biology we might represent one of the great global catastrophes that have caused mass extinction, about six in total so far (sorry but none of them was a global flood). This might be the first time all ecosystems were put under environmental pressure by the actions of a living species.Will there be survivors? How will there be survivors?
You know the answer! Selection of those best at surviving in the new environment, just as our ancestor was selected when the dinosaurs were killed by the effects of a meteorite.
Who described that mechanism?
The man named in the title of the thread!
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Oct. 04 2010,20:06) I see that megalomania is a requirement for membership of this imaginary conspiracy world.
Replace binary with quantum pairs where a 0 can become a 1. And now you have the language that our universe is constructed with.You get the idea. Maybe not. You haven't grasped much in the past I have to say.
I will try an explain it at your level.
Logic and law are the result of instructions given by the programmer and often exercised within the program.
Programs whether they are wrapped in silicon, flesh, or other elements are no different in that they are evidence of the programmer and accomplish that which they are instructed to do.
Humans for example have decoded the complete DNA sequence of some fellow humans which turns out to be a mammoth task.
Probably doesn't mean much to you in the sense of what it all means and points to.
Too bad. But you are allowed to chose ignorance. We don't all see the signs after all.
Millions live their lives oblivious to reality and context.
Quote (t8 @ Oct. 04 2010,20:21) Quote (Stu @ Oct. 04 2010,20:06) I see that megalomania is a requirement for membership of this imaginary conspiracy world.
Replace binary with quantum pairs where a 0 can become a 1. And now you have the language that our universe is constructed with.You get the idea. Maybe not. You haven't grasped much in the past I have to say.
I will try an explain it at your level.
Logic and law are the result of instructions given by the programmer and often exercised within the program.
Programs whether they are wrapped in silicon, flesh, or other elements are no different in that they are evidence of the programmer and accomplish that which they are instructed to do.
Humans for example have decoded the complete DNA sequence of some fellow humans which turns out to be a mammoth task.
Probably doesn't mean much to you in the sense of what it all means and points to.
Too bad. But you are allowed to chose ignorance. We don't all see the signs after all.
Millions live their lives oblivious to reality and context.
How can you have a program based on pairs that can annihilate one another, and/or regularly disappear? How can you have a constant new emergence of such particles while retaining the alleged order and instruction-bearing effect of those already present? The quantum world is actually chaotic and the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle completely destroys the usefulness of quantum particles as carriers of coordinated information.So, what mechanism will you come up with next for your grand conspiracy that is a program that in any case appears to have no function?
Stuart
No of course not, there have never been global catastrophic events including floods.
No floods, meteors, polar shift, or super-volcanic explosions. Everything has been just wonderful and species that have been fossilized chose to be.
Quote (t8 @ Oct. 04 2010,20:32) No of course not, there have never been global catastrophic events including floods. No floods, meteors, polar shift, or super-volcanic explosions. Everything has been just wonderful and species that have been fossilized chose to be.
Huh?Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Oct. 04 2010,20:30) How can you have a program based on pairs that can annihilate one another, and/or regularly disappear?
Quantum computers for example are based on quantum mechanics, with such features as superposition and entanglement which operate on data.This is a frontier of computing that will enable us to create matrix style worlds which binary would have problems calculating.
When we can take something that is in nature and build a synthetic or digital version of it, then it demonstrates 2 things.
1) That someone is way smarter than us because we are the pupils.
2) That someone is above creation just as we are above our own creations. Not talking about north or up either. More like above in a dimensional sense.As for your annihilating pairs. That has little to do with it. What is left over is what we exist within.
Just as there are a number of processes that have allowed us to arrive at the creation of cyberspace, so it is that space also went through a whole lot of processes to arrive in a state that could harbour physical life.
Anything that we create exists within the creation that we are bound to. But God is in an obvious sense, not bound to that which he made, just as we are not bound by those things that we make.
I have probably lost you at this point. No problem. If you got 10% of it, then that might help.
Quote (t8 @ Oct. 04 2010,20:48) Quote (Stu @ Oct. 04 2010,20:30) How can you have a program based on pairs that can annihilate one another, and/or regularly disappear?
Quantum computers for example are based on quantum mechanics, with such features as superposition and entanglement which operate on data.This is a frontier of computing that will enable us to create matrix style worlds which binary would have problems calculating.
When we can take something that is in nature and build a synthetic or digital version of it, then it demonstrates 2 things.
1) That someone is way smarter than us because we are the pupils.
2) That someone is above creation just as we are above our own creations. Not talking about north or up either. More like above in a dimensional sense.As for your annihilating pairs. That has little to do with it. What is left over is what we exist within.
Just as there are a number of processes that have allowed us to arrive at the creation of cyberspace, so it is that space also went through a whole lot of processes to arrive in a state that could harbour physical life.
Anything that we create exists within the creation that we are bound to. But God is in an obvious sense, not bound to that which he made, just as we are not bound by those things that we make.
I have probably lost you at this point. No problem. If you got 10% of it, then that might help.
Quantum computers will be based on the quantum state of electrons that are attached to atoms, not pairs of particles. As you will know, there are still major problems with interaction of the electrons with their surroundings.If you mean to invoke the god of your bible, the creation has finished according to Genesis, but matter continues to appear with the expansion of the universe. So either the bible is right and the universe is not expanding, or the bible is wrong. I'm not sure where that leaves your matrix god.
Perhaps it leaves it as a fantasy story. That's what the complete lack of evidence for it suggests.
Stuart
t8,
It is clear to me that Stu is struggling with reality. The complete ignorance in his posts of any possibility of a higher form of entity is ensconched in the desire of Satan that mankind should be it's own God. Of course, if that were to happen, and thank 'the real God' that it will never happen, Satan would then emerge to take over, like the Senator in Star Wars, the Sith Lord.Stu has never answered the very simple question i put to him, 'Why'?
He thinks it doesn't exist. His childish mind hasn't reached that level of thought yet so it is still beyond his comprehension that such a question should, and needs to be, asked, Just Asked.
Actually, Stu does believe in God but he wants to 'prove' God doesn't exist so you can see from his posts he makes no attempt to answer anything of credible value with anythingof worthwhile value to hide his shame in trying to deny what he so obviously knows is true, the Truth.
With Stu as Prime Minister, or President, of the world, 'the Satan God' if this system of things, the world is doomed even more than it already is in ''the real Satan's'' hands.
We would all be eating 'Silicon Chips' and drinking Meltwater from a global ice age glacier, followed by primordial chicken soup and Geezer boiled Dynasaur eggs with a volcanic ash cloud pepper topping, ummmm…
As a last, why do the likes of Stu presume that any life form of alien species will be 'less' intelligent than ourselves…fear, fear that they might not be,…zenaphobia?
The aliens on Mars are clever and have wisely hidden themselves from all exploratory views.
The rest of the aliens in the universe have gone even further, literally, and placed themselves billions of lightyears away.
The recently discovered 'definitely can sustain life' planet is so far away it transcend in distance the lifetime of the whole of planet earth, and i don't mean 7 days.
P.s. GOD took six [God] days to create the Earth. He 'rested' on the seventh. Posters, scripturalist, everyone out there please get it right….!
Quote (Stu @ Oct. 04 2010,21:04)
…either the bible is right and the universe is not expanding, or the bible is wrong. …Stuart
HI Stuart,What are you mental or something?
I have already explained to you: The Bible
tells that the universe is continually expanding!Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 28 2010,08:26) Hi Stuart, Astronomy: The Earth is round and that the Universe is ever expanding…
Isaiah 40:22 …the circle of the earth, and …that stretcheth out
the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
Job 26:7 He …hangeth the earth upon nothing. (Gravitational forces hold it's position)stretch: to extend in length, to extend or expand, to enlarge,
to become extended in length or breadth or both,
to extend over a continuous period.Heavens: the expanse of space, celestial.
spread: to open or expand over a large area, to stretch out: extend,
to distribute over an area, to become dispersed, the act or process of spreading.eth: suffix -used to form the archaic third person singular present in verbs <doeth>
People hate seeing in others what is the weakness in their own character!
Have you not considered that you hung up on liars because that's what you are?Stuart see's his own reflection in others because he himself is a liar…
James 1:23-24 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer,
he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass: For
he beholdeth himself (Psalm 18:25-27), and goeth his way,
and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.Psalm 18:25-27 With the merciful thou(YHVH) will show thyself merciful;
with an upright man thou(YHVH) will show thyself upright; With the pure
thou(YHVH) will show thyself pure; and with the froward thou(YHVH) will show
thyself froward. For thou will save the afflicted people; but wilt bring down high looks.Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)Quote (Stu @ Oct. 04 2010,21:04) Quantum computers will be based on the quantum state of electrons that are attached to atoms, not pairs of particles.
Think of it like this.Binary uses static 0s and 1s which are the replacement for the transistor. They represent classical physics where an object is either in a position or it is not. On, off. Yes, No.
Having 2 states allows for quick computation but there are limits. Above the binary stack are other codes such as ASCII which group binary sequences and put it into a meaningful and shortened form such as letters and numbers that make up human languages. ASCII for example represent the keys you see on the keyboard and hence a person can then use ASCII characters to write in an ASCII language where an interpreter is present which then give commands to a program using the interpreter and are displayed within the program. If you view a web page for example, the ASCII code is being interpreted by HTML and JavaScript interpreters which output their commands into the browser. The underlying ASCII languages are really just binary instructions for the computer chip and hence why we have to reprogram for different chip architectures. So think of the machine and the intelligence being binary which is the bottom of the stack, while other languages sit on top and interpreters execute commands for programs. So I could for example command a program that might be say a 3D world like Second Life to light up when I say “Let there be light”. Of course my words are more than words, they are executing commands down the stack.
Quantum computers on the other-hand will use qubits, which are multi-tasking bits that can represent both zero and one simultaneously so they use the same logic of atoms and molecules. Qubits can work out all possible answers by arranging its qubits into all workable arrangements of zeros and ones and that includes a superposition of both. This cuts the number of computations needed and you then simply measure the qubits to extract the answers. These computers have the potential to perform certain calculations billions of times faster than any binary based computer because they observe the state of quantum bits as opposed to binary bits.
Upon understanding how we can create using this logic in cyberspace (digital space), it is not a stretch to understand that God can indeed create by speaking commands into the space that he works with. And the fact that we have done on our scale what God has done on his scale shows that we are indeed made in his image. We are like him.
Quote (t8 @ Oct. 05 2010,15:06) Quote (Stu @ Oct. 04 2010,21:04) Quantum computers will be based on the quantum state of electrons that are attached to atoms, not pairs of particles.
Think of it like this.Binary uses static 0s and 1s which are the replacement for the transistor. They represent classical physics where an object is either in a position or it is not. On, off. Yes, No. Having 2 states allows for quick computation but there are limits. Above the binary stack are other codes such as ASCII which group binary sequences and put it into a meaningful and shortened form such as letters and numbers. ASCII for example represents the keys you see on the keyboard and hence a person can then use ASCII characters to write in an ASCII language where an interpreter is present which then give commands to a program using the interpreter and are displayed in a program. If you view a web page for example, the ASCII code is being interpreted by HTML and JavaScript interpreters which output their commands into a browser. The underlying ASCII languages and really just binary instructions for the computer chip. So think of binary as being at the bottom of the stack and other languages sitting on top and interpreters and programs for executing commands. So I could command a program that might be say a 3D world like Second Life to light up when I say “Let there be light”. Of course my words are more than words, they are executing commands down the stack.
Quantum computers on the other-hand will use qubits, which are multi-tasking bits that can represent both zero and one simultaneously so they use the same logic of atoms and molecules. Qubits can work out all possible answers by arranging its qubits into all workable arrangements of zeros and ones and can also be in a superposition of both. This cuts the number of computations needed and you then simply measure the qubits to extract the answers. These computers have the potential to perform certain calculations billions of times faster than any binary based computer because they observe the state of quantum bits as opposed to binary bits.
Upon understanding how we can create using this logic in cyberspace (digital space), it is not a stretch to understand that God can indeed create by speaking commands into the space that he works with.
Hi T8,Are you saying that these “Qubits” can represent both
on and off at the same time, instead of how binary works?
Binary can only have either on or off, not both simultaneously.
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.
