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I have no idea about the doctrine of Walid Shoebat as all I can find out is that he is biased against Muslims in general. He claims to be a former terrorist who has engaged in terrorist exploits but his claims of the later are unsubstantiated. So except for claiming to be a Christian, opposing Islam, and voicing his opinion about prophecy he seems to remain silent about the message of salvation. That is not what Jesus did or does.
A couple of things to note.
1) He may well preach the gospel, but who is going to post that to Youtube. So might be a bit harsh to say he is not, when you cannot prove it.
2) Just as well it is unsubstantiated. Might go to prison otherwise. lol.
t8,
It is more important to get out the message of salvation than any prophecy of the future. He is very active politically, even appearing on CNN, and has his own website. Speaking the gospel is an imperative as it does not care if you believe a prophecy if you do not believe the one true gospel of Christ.
Walid seems to think he is already preaching to those that believe as he does. That is a big assumption to make in this modern world where individuals with completely divergent doctrines call themselves Christians.
T8,
I spend more time discussing elements related to the gospel of salvation. I also seek to oppose those things that I deem might cause others to follow a false gospel. In addition I have already put myself on the hot seat about my beliefs.
You have become a pool Kerwin.
It will stagnate. Let the spirit keep on flowing,a measure at the time.
wakeup.
Wakeup,
I simply am wise enough not to eat meat as a baby who is only mature enough to drink milk.
As far as I can see, I do not know what christology Walid Shoebat. For the most part people on this site, including you, do not keep silent about that feature of their gospel of salvation. A true Christian is bold about sharing their beliefs.
I tend to believe the Secularist, even those that claim to be Christians, are more of a threat than the Islamist. In fact some of them claim to be Islamist. Both are clearly unbelievers.
Kerwin.
You need to progress to some strong meat.
You have been stuck on the gospels for too long.
70% of the bible is prophecy.
It should not take that long to learn the gospels.
Why can I not get to reply to Nick?
Can not find the reply button.
wakeup.
Wakeup,
Prophecy is easier to understand after it is fulfilled than before. God does that on purpose. The coming of the Christ was foretold beforehand but even the disciples did not understand until Jesus explained it to them after his resurrection. Even though they did not understand it served its purpose.
It was not those that understood prophecy that were called but those who came to Jesus Christ.
There us no evidence that Walid Shoebat has ever come to Christ even though he claims to be a Christian.
But I personally have not read any of your posts on salvation. So from my point of view so far, you do not preach the gospel.
Same could be said about anyone else including Walid. Just because I might have seen perhaps 5 videos on the man and specifically searched on his end-times view, then I am not going to see what else he teaches and preaches.
So I wouldn’t say that he doesn’t teach this or that. He may well do. I do not know the man. I am not able to see what he does day to day. I have looked at one thing pertaining to the man. His end time teachings which are aimed at the saved, not the unsaved.
Very hard to judge in those circumstances.
Kerwin.
The book of revelation is not written for nothing.
To know what is coming before it comes,gives us time to prepare;
and to warn our brethren.
It conditions our mind, to be prepared,it will not get us by surprise.
Such as.
Next coming;will be the new order established. Ten kings conglomerate into one massive power.
Then the false prophet will be revealed. His way is already prepared, the secret technology is ready.
He is groomed to be a leader and a prophet,well trained.
Then ,he will sell himself with miracles and speaches of love and peace.
His voice will be desired by the people,He may even have a light glow on him,but all with some secret make up.
He will bring peace but we know it’s just for one hour.(a short time).
People of the world will receive him as a god,they have been deceived but dont know.A great delusion has come upon them.
Then, he will enforce his mark on every one for the good of mankind.
No bying or selling,without the mark,for the good of the world.Yeah,all is for the good of mankind,but we know it’s the opposite.
I hear that the chip will be introduced in 017, I know many have taken the mark by own choice.
Some even new born babies? We know pets have them for years; goods have them for years.
They always go one step at the time.
Good idea they say; makes things saver. Lost children can be found; bank cards can be stolen,lost,forgotten the pin,etc.
Ten dollars a month is not bad,everyone should have one; we must progress.
Christians will be called religious fanatics,bible bashers; trouble makers,dont want peace.
Children will kill parents;everyone dobbing in everyone,some are bribed with special treatment,and special care.
Father a true christian, and mother a lukewarm christian, will be against each other.
The children are hungry,they need food,we must take the chip or they will die,father say no.
Mother say;I and the children will take it,we dont want camps.
Father will be tempted,but must make a choice.
To love children more than God. They are not worthy.
Christians will be locked up in fema camps(usa),some hard core christians will be decapitated.
They are being made white;they are the future saints.
Only 3/half years,and all is over. God will give a little help.
Maybe we can mow the neigbours lawn for a loaf of bread.
Maybe you remember my post two three years ago.I have set the year of israel’s punishment;and the coming.
Give and take a few months.
I have studied jer.25. in depth. God has the end times in revelation;but the finale is hidden somewhere else.
wakeup.
Wakeup,
To know what is coming before it comes,gives us time to prepare;
All you have to do to prepare is to keep clothed in the Spirit of God. You cannot not do that unless you have the Spirit of God and you cannot have it unless you hear and believe the true gospel of Jesus Christ.
In this case Walid Shoebat does not seem to care about teaching the gospel of Salvation as I have no idea what gospel he believes.
If God chose he could have ditched the symbolism and told us straight up what would happen. That would have put an end to much speculation. He could have also told the people of the Old Testament that the Christ was to born of Mary a decedent of Nathan. Even to the generation she was his decedent. He did tell them that a Savior would come and come again to bring the Age of Christ and after that the wicked would fall and the World to Come would be. None of this knowledge was new at the time Jesus was conceived of Mary. Many speculated about it but they did not come to Jesus because though they diligently studies Scripture in search of salvation they did not believe. The may have thought they believe but with their actions they revealed they did not.
You are more open about what you believe than Walid Shoebat is but I do not believe all you say is from God.
Daniel 11:37Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
Given this is a description of the antichrist then he sounds more like either a Secularist or an Atheist than a Muslim. If he claims to be a Muslim then it a lie because he would not regard Allah as God but would instead like Satan his father make himself appear higher that Allah and even the God of Jesus and Abraham.
Hi,
I haven’t studied that section of Daniel in depth but is it possible that rather than it being an individual person it is rather a nation? It would fit in better with certain parts of the New Testament.
Has anyone looked at the Hebrew?
Wakesup,
Although some of what you say may play out, i doubt the mark of the beast has anything to do with a literal mark. We are the lost generation and the mark is most likely already here in peoples hearts and minds (invisible).
Camillia,
I haven’t studied that section of Daniel in depth but is it possible that rather than it being an individual person it is rather a nation? It would fit in better with certain parts of the New Testament.
Has anyone looked at the Hebrew?
I believe it is a reference to two different things. The more important is the AntiChrist but it also seem by its context to refer to one of the decedents of one of the four generals that the empire of Alexander was split between. It is a matter of types and archetypes and my reasoning that the AntiChrist is a type of Satan, who is the archetype of his children. I believe it is also a teaching or similar to a teaching of the Seventh Day Adventist.
Carmillia,
Although some of what you say may play out, i doubt the mark of the beast has anything to do with a literal mark. We are the lost generation and the mark is most likely already here in peoples hearts and minds (invisible).
A lot of Revelations is symbolic and so one must be careful what you take literally. I agree with you as the flesh nature can also be called the nature of the beast and those that live by it can be said to exist in the image of the beast.
Those that live by the carnal nature are compared with brute beast at least twice in Scripture.
2 Peter 2:12Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
Jude 1:10Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
There may or may not be a physical mark.
Kerwin.
Just dont bet on it.
The mark will be **PUT IN** the right hand or *IN* the forehead.
You will not escape it Kerwin;must be prepared,or it will get you like a flash flood.
I hear,that in 017 it will be introduced to the public.
Anyone can have it.
It will only cost 40 dollars at first; and then 10 dollars every month.
But soon after; the false prophet will make it compulsory for everyone to have one.
Or no job,food bank acc. etc. Christians will be as dead duck. But we have Christ.
wakeup.
Wakeup,
It is prophecy so I do not bet on much. I do know taking it literally is asking for disaster.
1) I also that anyone the lives by the flesh will not inherit the kingdom of heaven no matter whether or not they have a physical mark of any kind on them.
2) If you live by the Spirit you will not be destroyed on that day.
The points I labeled 1 and 2 are concrete.
Wakeup and Camillia,
Consider that God said:
Deuteronomy 11:18Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
18 Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes.
Instead of the word of God those who live by the flesh nature have the mark of the beast. The right hand is simply simply the more important.
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