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- April 27, 2013 at 12:01 am#353951bodhithartaParticipant
The Urantia claims trinity teachings are advanced teachings:
4 – (92:6.19) Islam is the religio-cultural connective of North Africa, the Levant, and southeastern Asia. It was Jewish theology in connection with the later Christian teachings that made Islam monotheistic. The followers of Mohammed stumbled at the advanced teachings of the Trinity; they could not comprehend the doctrine of three divine personalities and one Deity. It is always difficult to induce evolutionary minds suddenly to accept advanced revealed truth. Man is an evolutionary creature and in the main must get his religion by evolutionary techniques.
June 17, 2013 at 12:56 am#353952bodhithartaParticipantThe Urantia book claims Jesus was in the tomb 36 hours:
(2012.1) 188:0.1 THE day and a half that Jesus’ mortal body lay in the tomb of Joseph, the period between his death on the cross and his resurrection, is a chapter in the earth career of Michael which is little known to us.
June 17, 2013 at 11:46 am#353953SpockParticipantQuote (bodhitharta @ June 17 2013,11:56) The Urantia book claims Jesus was in the tomb 36 hours: (2012.1) 188:0.1 THE day and a half that Jesus’ mortal body lay in the tomb of Joseph, the period between his death on the cross and his resurrection, is a chapter in the earth career of Michael which is little known to us.
In that age there was a common belief that the soul lingered in the grave for 3 days, so it's not surprising that the story was written with Jesus being in the tomb for three days so that readers had no doubts as to his death.Besides, they don't even have the birth date of Jesus right:
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Date of birth
Two independent approaches have been used to estimate the year of the birth of Jesus, one by analyzing the Nativity accounts in the Gospels of Luke and Matthew along with other historical data, the other by working backwards from the estimation of the start of the ministry of Jesus.[81][82]
Estimation via the Nativity accounts
A Harley Golden Gospel copy of Luke, c. 800The nativity accounts in the New Testament gospels of Matthew and Luke do not mention a date or time of year for the birth of Jesus and Karl Rahner states that the gospels do not in general provide enough details of dates to satisfy the demands of modern historians.[48] But both Luke and Matthew associate Jesus' birth with the time of King Herod.[48] Most scholars generally assume a date of birth between 6 and 4 BC.[83]
However, many scholars see a contradiction, in that while the Gospel of Matthew places Jesus' birth under the reign of Herod the Great, who died in 4 BC, the Gospel of Luke also dates the birth ten years after Herod's death during the census of Quirinius, described by the historian Josephus.[48] Most critical scholars believe that Luke was simply mistaken,[84] but other scholars have attempted to reconcile its account with the details given by Josephus.[85][86] For instance, Steven Cox and Kendell Easley list four separate approaches to a solution, ranging from a grammatical approach to the translation of the Greek word prote used in Luke to be read as “registration before Quirinius was governor of Syria” to archeological arguments and references to Tertullian that indicate that a “two step census” was performed, involving an early registration, given that Luke 2:2 refers to the “first enrolment”.[62][87][88][89]
Despite the celebration of Christmas in December, neither Luke nor Matthew mention a season for when Jesus was born. However, scholarly arguments regarding the realism of shepherds grazing their flock during the winter have taken place, both challenging a winter birth for Jesus, as well as defending it by relying on the mildness of winters in ancient Israel and rabbinic rules regarding sheep near Bethlehem before February.[90][91][92]
Working backwards from the ministry[edit]The ministry-based approach to estimating the year of birth of Jesus is independent of the nativity accounts and works backwards from the start of the ministry of Jesus, based on the statement in Luke 3:23 that Jesus was “about 30 years of age” at that time.[81][93]
Three independent approaches to estimating the dates of the ministry of Jesus have been proposed first by using the “fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius” in Luke 3:1-2, second via the reference in the dispute of Jesus and the Pharisees in John 2:20 (“Forty and six years was this temple in building, and you want to raise it up in three days?”) and third by the reference of Flavius Josephus to the imprisonment and execution (Ant 18.5.2) of John the baptist by Herod Antipas. The third reference (i.e. the execution of the Baptist in Matthew 14:6-12) relates to a time when Jesus had already started his ministry but the other two references relate to the beginning of Jesus' ministry. (See the article Chronology of Jesus for details of the date estimations methods).
By working backwards from the start of his ministry, some scholars estimate the year 28 AD to be roughly the 32nd birthday of Jesus and his year of birth to be around 6-4 BC.[81][93][94]
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