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Hi Nick.
Scripture says, “God wills all mankind to be saved, not willing any to perish.” What does this mean to you?Blessings.
Hi CO,
God wants all men to be saved.
Buts despite your protestations that this part of scripture applies only to Niocodemus, or only to the Jews he has invited all to respond to and obey His son and that is the evidence that they love Him.
Love Me? prove it.Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 01 2007,14:10) Hi CO,
God wants all men to be saved.
Buts despite your protestations that this part of scripture applies only to Niocodemus, or only to the Jews he has invited all to respond to and obey His son and that is the evidence that they love Him.
Love Me? prove it.
2Jo 1:6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the Commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.Hi Nick.
(1Tim.4:9-11) …That we rely on the living God, Who is the Saviour of all mankind, especially of believers. You say, not unless you do etc. etc. I trust the word of God, not mens teachings.Blessings.
Hi CO,
Yes you should cooperate with the plan of the Almighty as Christ, whom we follow did, fulfilling all righteousness. No free lunches.
This message now is the gospel for all men.
Jn335The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.
36He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
Hi Nick.
I forgot this as well. (Isaiah 46. 8-11). This is God revealing Himself. “Saying, All my councel shall be confirmed, And all my desire will I do. Indeed, I speak! Indeed I will bring it about! I formed. Indeed, I will do it”.
He doesn't say anything about mans free will. But you say, “only if man allows Him”. I believe scripture, not man.Blessings.
No free lunches? I must be in the wrong line!
My friend and I were talking about this very topic today. She thinks that if you are a Hindu, Buddist, Wiccan or Trinitarian (heehee)…… it doesn't matter, that all will be saved regardless…… It was a very interesting discussion.
I'm not quite sure what I believe on this. But now that I'm in the right line, I may learn something from all of you!
Quote (chosenone @ June 01 2007,15:55) Hi Nick.
I forgot this as well. (Isaiah 46. 8-11). This is God revealing Himself. “Saying, All my councel shall be confirmed, And all my desire will I do. Indeed, I speak! Indeed I will bring it about! I formed. Indeed, I will do it”.
He doesn't say anything about mans free will. But you say, “only if man allows Him”. I believe scripture, not man.Blessings.
Hi CO,
A very popular gospel.
Put your feet up and enjoy the ride.Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 01 2007,15:49) Hi CO,
Yes you should cooperate with the plan of the Almighty as Christ, whom we follow did, fulfilling all righteousness. No free lunches.
This message now is the gospel for all men.
Jn335The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.
36He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
Hi Nick.
Again, you quote scripture to the Jews, still under the “Old Covenant” and had to obey the “Law”. Can't you understand that we are no longer under the “Law”. Why do you still try to save yourself through 'works'? We have been 'conciliated' to God through the death and resurrection of Christ Jesus. He sees our sin no more, we have been justified. You must “correctly cut the word of truth”. (2Tim.2:15).Blessings.
Hi CO,
THe gospel was first taken to the Jews and now all are forcing their way in. The gospel hasn't changed, just the audience. Are you interested in obeying it?Hi Nick.
You say “Put your feet up and enjoy the ride”. When we are baptised with the Holy Spirit, then the “fruit of the Spirit” works in us, (you shall know the tree by it's fruit). We produce “good fruit”, According to the power that is operating in us (Eph.3:21). So you see, we don't just 'put up our feet', but it is of God. (Eph.2:10 For His achievment are we, being created in Christ Jesus for good works,…)Blessings.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 01 2007,16:18) Hi CO,
THe gospel was first taken to the Jews and now all are forcing their way in. The gospel hasn't changed, just the audience. Are you interested in obeying it?
Hi Nick.
You are correct, the Gospel hasn't changed. But no, the audience hasn't changed either. Still the same message to the Jews. All scripture is FOR us, but all scripture is not ABOUT us.
I would be interested to know what scripture you use to say that “all are forcing their way in (to the Gospels)”.Blessings.
Hi CO,
Lk 16.16
“16”The Law and the Prophets were proclaimed until John; since that time the gospel of the kingdom of God has been preached, and everyone is forcing his way into it. “
Mat11
” 12″From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and violent men take it by force.”Hi Nick.
Again, to the Jews. “I was not commissioned except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel”. Read further in Luke 16, verse 17, “Yet it is easier for heaven and earth to pass by, then for one serif of the LAW to fall.” I don't know if you will ever learn that we are not still under the law, which was given to the Jews. If you still believe you are, then I assume you are cicumcised, don't eat unclean foods, observe the day of atonement, and all the festivels, stone women caught in adultery, and many other “laws” of the old covenant.
Also in Mathew 11, if you read further in verse 14 “For all the prophets and the LAW prophesy till John. Notice it writes of the LAW.
You have to read all in context to get the meaning of scripture, not just pick out scripture that suits your beliefs.Blessings.
Quote (chosenone @ June 02 2007,07:52) Hi Nick.
Again, to the Jews. “I was not commissioned except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel”. Read further in Luke 16, verse 17, “Yet it is easier for heaven and earth to pass by, then for one serif of the LAW to fall.” I don't know if you will ever learn that we are not still under the law, which was given to the Jews. If you still believe you are, then I assume you are cicumcised, don't eat unclean foods, observe the day of atonement, and all the festivels, stone women caught in adultery, and many other “laws” of the old covenant.
Also in Mathew 11, if you read further in verse 14 “For all the prophets and the LAW prophesy till John. Notice it writes of the LAW.
You have to read all in context to get the meaning of scripture, not just pick out scripture that suits your beliefs.Blessings.
Hi Nick.
Still no reply? Have you been circumcised?Blessings.
Hi CO,
Written to the saved.
Col2
“10And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:11In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
12Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
13And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
Hi Nick.
You reply useing Pauls epistles, the scripture for the “Nations”. Yet you also use scripture from the Jews while under the “Old Covenant” and the “law” to make points for your various beliefs. If scripture used while still under the law is for us today, then we should still keep all the laws, be cicumcised in the flesh, keep all the festivals, the Sabbath, the day of atonement, not eat unclean food, etc.
So do we try to keep both, and obey only those that suit us at the time for our convenience? Some from the old, and some from the New, and make up our own rules from parts of both?
May I suggest you look at an explanation for correctly cutting the word of truth (2Tim,2:15) http://www.godstruthfortoday.org/Library/miscellaneous/OurLordsEarthlyMinistry.htmBlessings.
Hi CO,
Paul did not write to the unsaved nations but to the saved.
The addresses are at the start, where you would expect.Joh 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
Rom 11:12 Now if their trespass means riches for the world, and if their failure means riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their full inclusion mean!
Rom 11:13 Now I am speaking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry
Rom 11:14 in order somehow to make my fellow Jews jealous, and thus save some of them.
Rom 11:15 For if their rejection means the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance mean but life from the dead?
Rom 11:16 If the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, so is the whole lump, and if the root is holy, so are the branches.
Rom 11:17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, although a wild olive shoot, were grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing root of the olive tree,
Rom 11:18 do not be arrogant toward the branches. If you are, remember it is not you who support the root, but the root that supports you.Are we not spiritual Jews? We, the Gentiles have been grafted into Israel. The Jews rejected the Christ according to the planso Jesus would be sacrificed for all sins AND to save the all those who call upon His name.
The first will be the last saved and the last the first to be saved.
Mat 20:16 So the last will be first, and the first last.”
Weather first, now the last (Israel) or last, now the first (Gentile) All are ONE in Jesus.
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
IHN&L,
Ken
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