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I don't know how some people can take the Word and shred it. Who do you think you are to say that the laws are no more, did Y'shua die for nothing?
What is grace? It certainly is not a license to sin. The Spirit put the law in our inward parts it became more and not less. Just to think about murder now makes us guilty of it! He see our inward parts. Look at from a life experince perspective. What happens when we break one of the over 4 million laws of his “free” country? We are placed “under” the law or under arrest. It is the same with the law written with the finger of YHWH. If we break a law we are under the penalry of it. The only way we can say we are above it is if we do not break it. Then why did Y'shua die? He did for the people who understand the meaning by studying the law, they know they broke a rule, because they realized what the law meant. Now once we recognize that sin, we a called to repent. We ask for His fogiveness. We are forgiven. If it weren't for the law, we would not know the meaning of sin. Now that we know we have no excuse for ignoring it. If you trample on the law you trample on the work of the Messiah. He IS the Word. We are all under the same law. The ark of the covenent holds the tablets of stone upon which are written the laws by His own finger. The ark is a physical shadow of the judgement seat by which we will all be judged and the commands are the law by which we are judged.Hi Laurel.
What did Jesus die for? He led a sinless life, but took on the sins of the world and payed our penalty (the wages of sin is death). We are concidered as dying with him, we have been “justified” by His death and resurrection, God sees our sins no more. We have ben “conciliated” to God. We are no longer under the “Law”, (we gentiles were never under the Law), we are saved by “Grace”, not obedience to the law.Blessings.
Blessings.
Hi CO,
Some die with him-though who repent and are baptised.
Rom6
” 3Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?4Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7For he that is dead is freed from sin.
8Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:”
Good post Nick, you are getting close, Romans is for the “Nations”, so this time at least you are quoting relevant scripture. Now see the meaning of this scripture… When Christ died for us, we are counted as dying with Him (the wages of sin is death), in other words, our judgement has been 'death' and was fullfilled by Christ, for us. Now notice verse 7… For he that is dead is “freed from sin”, Get it? Our imputed death, payed by Christ, has freed us from sin (we have been “justified”), freed from sin, God sees our sin no more. A few more scriptures like that, and there is still hope you will realise that “Repenting” & baptism is meaningless for us, we don't need to repent of our sins, Christ has freed us from our sins, past presant and future. Halleluia.
Blessings.
Hi CO,
So we all are dead with Christ through our sin? But Christ knew no sin but died on our behalf. The JWs teach that death brings forgiveness to all men. Is that your belief too? It is far from truth.All men everywhere are called to repent.
If this does not apply to you sobeit.
Good luck to you.Christ did not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance.
Someone get a mod to get rid of that SEX HOME VIDEO topic that someone put on the Scripture and Biblical Doctrines topic page.
I don't want anyone to fall into the snare of sin so please get rid of it. I'm not going there to ask him to stop.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 05 2007,19:26) Hi CO,
So we all are dead with Christ through our sin? But Christ knew no sin but died on our behalf. The JWs teach that death brings forgiveness to all men. Is that your belief too? It is far from truth.All men everywhere are called to repent.
If this does not apply to you sobeit.
Good luck to you.Christ did not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance.
Nick.
So if you are still in sin, then repent, confess your sins, be baptized, etc. I guess Christs' sacrifice didn't apply to you, you can “work” your way into salvation, Christ could have avoided all that pain and suffering, just listen to the 'gospel of Nick', and all will be saved. For you, Christ died for nothing.Blessings.
JHi CO,
Repentance is not works.
All men everywhere must repent.
The prodigal son still had to come to his senses and start walking.
God met him the way home and transformed him covering his sin in the robe of righteouness and giving him the ring of authority and power.Yes, every year at the “Day of Atonement”. They had to repent of their sins, and offer a sacifice through the chief priest in the “Holy Of Holys', to cover their sins. Also they had to 'fast' from sunrise to sunset, no food or water. This was done every year, until Jesus' sacifice, then the veil was torn (the one separating the Holy of Holys'), this was done because no more sacrifices were neccesary, Christs sacrifice was once for ALL.
Hi CO,
Now the lamb has offered himself as a sacrifice for the sins of all men in his role as eternal high priest would you not wish to join with the repentant Jews so that you might benefit?If Christ has died for my sins, It would be insulting to God to say His Son didn't need to do that, I could do it myself.
Hi Gene,
You said in another thread
” I believe all of humanity will ultimately be saved for several reasons, one God does not create children to kill, two He said he is not willing that any parish (doesnt it say God does all things after the council of His own will), so if it's not His will that any parish then none will parish”So you have joined with the Universalists?
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 10 2008,07:40) Hi Gene,
You said in another thread
” I believe all of humanity will ultimately be saved for several reasons, one God does not create children to kill, two He said he is not willing that any parish (doesnt it say God does all things after the council of His own will), so if it's not His will that any parish then none will parish”So you have joined with the Universalists?
One day you will too! 1 Corinthians 15:22-28, …that God may be All in all.Blessings.
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