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I remember a few years ago the Abrahamic Faith home group I was involved with grew to such numbers we had to rent a church basement. Most Trinitarian-based churches would not rent to us. But we did find a Unity church who offered their stuffy, 70's decorated, basement with kitchen. We took it.
I remember on the wall they had a board with the large word GOD on the top. On the board were pictures that kids had drawn. They were of a Buddah, the sky, a native-looking drawing, one looked hindu, then there was Jesus, even an alien-looking thing, then one picture was blank.
I remember being so sad when I saw this. I even asked our brother's if it would be OK if I put something over the board for our meetings.
Now I wonder……. I wonder if a Unity church, that accepts all beliefs, would be a good place to raise my children in? Religous tolerance has a new place in my life. I never thought it would when I was stuck in the glue of fear.
What do other's think?
Check it out, a lot of couples with husband and wife coming from different faith backgrounds choose such for their families and children. As always a lot depends upon that individual congregation.
Mandy,
I don't know about the Unity Church, but I think it is ironic that Christians (and others) are so against religious tolerance considering that the Jews were able to build their 2nd temple using Persian funds! This is what Cyrus (yes, the one Yahweh called his “anointed” in Isaiah) said on the Cyrus Cylinder:
- Now that I put the crown of kingdom of Iran, Babylon, and the nations of the four directions on the head with the help of (Ahura) Mazda, I announce that I will respect the traditions, customs and religions of the nations of my empire and never let any of my governors and subordinates look down on or insult them until I am alive. From now on, till (Ahura) Mazda grants me the kingdom favor, I will impose my monarchy on no nation. Each is free to accept it, and if any one of them rejects it, I never resolve on war to reign. Until I am the king of Iran, Babylon, and the nations of the four directions, I never let anyone oppress any others, and if it occurs, I will take his or her right back and penalize the oppressor.
And until I am the monarch, I will never let anyone take possession of movable and landed properties of the others by force or without compensation. Until I am alive, I prevent unpaid, forced labor. To day, I announce that everyone is free to choose a religion. People are free to live in all regions and take up a job provided that they never violate other's rights.
No one could be penalized for his or her relatives' faults. I prevent slavery and my governors and subordinates are obliged to prohibit exchanging men and women as slaves within their own ruling domains. Such a traditions should be exterminated the world over.
I implore to (Ahura) Mazda to make me succeed in fulfilling my obligations to the nations of Iran(Persia), Babylon, and the ones of the four directions.
The Cyrus Cylinder is dated back to the time of Cyrus himself. No redaction on his part.
How do you know it was the same Cyrus? So much of these historical documents are suspect. They would have to be…how can you know for sure? I guess it takes faith to believe anything.
Quote (Cato @ April 18 2008,06:28) Check it out, a lot of couples with husband and wife coming from different faith backgrounds choose such for their families and children. As always a lot depends upon that individual congregation.
Thanks, Cato.Quote Now I wonder……. I wonder if a Unity church, that accepts all beliefs, would be a good place to raise my children in? Well I know Jesus certainly accepted all beliefs. As did his Father, God. Wait, or did they?
We know the 'wizard' likes the idea. So that's something.
Questions: Is this unity church a Christian church?
If it is, I suppose it wants to follow Christ, correct?
Well what does “Christ” think about “accepting all beliefs”?Would you say the God of the Bible has “religious tolerance”?
(Of course, you're not sure about Christ or the God of the Bible, but if you were, how would you answer such questions.)
Maybe because you're not sure is why you think it is a good place, though, because it accepts whatever, and you don't know what to believe. Maybe this is the appeal, to cover all the bases. Is it?Quote (Not3in1 @ April 17 2008,23:17) How do you know it was the same Cyrus? So much of these historical documents are suspect. They would have to be…how can you know for sure? I guess it takes faith to believe anything.
Many reasons. It dates back to the time of the very same Cyrus. It speaks of Cyrus conquering Babylon.Quote (david @ April 17 2008,23:50) Quote Now I wonder……. I wonder if a Unity church, that accepts all beliefs, would be a good place to raise my children in? Well I know Jesus certainly accepted all beliefs. As did his Father, God. Wait, or did they?
We know the 'wizard' likes the idea. So that's something.
Questions: Is this unity church a Christian church?
If it is, I suppose it wants to follow Christ, correct?
Well what does “Christ” think about “accepting all beliefs”?Would you say the God of the Bible has “religious tolerance”?
(Of course, you're not sure about Christ or the God of the Bible, but if you were, how would you answer such questions.)
Maybe because you're not sure is why you think it is a good place, though, because it accepts whatever, and you don't know what to believe. Maybe this is the appeal, to cover all the bases. Is it?
I don't sense religious fervor and sarcasm, do I?Quote (Not3in1 @ April 17 2008,23:17) How do you know it was the same Cyrus? So much of these historical documents are suspect. They would have to be…how can you know for sure? I guess it takes faith to believe anything.
Kinda hard to edit this:
Quote (kejonn @ April 18 2008,22:31) Quote (Not3in1 @ April 17 2008,23:17) How do you know it was the same Cyrus? So much of these historical documents are suspect. They would have to be…how can you know for sure? I guess it takes faith to believe anything.
Kinda hard to edit this:
Someone has censored something!Stuart
Quote (Stu @ April 18 2008,05:35) Quote (kejonn @ April 18 2008,22:31) Quote (Not3in1 @ April 17 2008,23:17) How do you know it was the same Cyrus? So much of these historical documents are suspect. They would have to be…how can you know for sure? I guess it takes faith to believe anything.
Kinda hard to edit this:
Someone has censored something!Stuart
Yeah, the missing part is probably where Cyrus pays homage to Yahweh.Quote (david @ April 18 2008,16:50) Quote Now I wonder……. I wonder if a Unity church, that accepts all beliefs, would be a good place to raise my children in? Well I know Jesus certainly accepted all beliefs. As did his Father, God. Wait, or did they?
We know the 'wizard' likes the idea. So that's something.
Questions: Is this unity church a Christian church?
If it is, I suppose it wants to follow Christ, correct?
Well what does “Christ” think about “accepting all beliefs”?Would you say the God of the Bible has “religious tolerance”?
(Of course, you're not sure about Christ or the God of the Bible, but if you were, how would you answer such questions.)
Maybe because you're not sure is why you think it is a good place, though, because it accepts whatever, and you don't know what to believe. Maybe this is the appeal, to cover all the bases. Is it?
This is from the unity church website:
“Our Vision
Centered in God, we co-create a world that works for all.Our Mission
We create and support vibrant, diverse, spiritual leaders and communities that foster transformation and inspire people to make a positive difference in our world.Our Values
Core values are the foundation of the organization and vital for it to be successful; the organization's ideals; non negotiable; fundamental for organizational coherence.Spirit-led: We are centered in God. Spirit leads our thoughts and actions as we co-create a world that works for all.
Integrity: We act from a place of wholeness and are ethical in all our actions. We keep our word.
Diversity: We believe that all people are created with sacred worth. We promote greater understanding among people in a spirit of unity.
Transformation: We are a dynamic movement on the cutting edge of spiritual evolution. We teach universal spiritual principles that change lives.
Abundance: Living in the infinite flow of God's good, we draw from God's inexhaustible supply and wisely use our rich resources to serve the world.
Individuals grow spiritually when they are part of a supportive community, a church, of like-minded believers.”
Note: I am not now, nor ever been a member, I present this in interest of fairness.
So speaks the “wizard”, you no doubt, meant the appellation as denigrating, I will however take it by defintion: 1. One who practices magic; a magician. 2. A skilled or clever person. 3. (Archaic) A sage; thank you for the compliment.
ev·o·lu·tion Audio Help /ˌɛvəˈluʃən or, especially Brit., ˌivə-/ Pronunciation Key – Show Spelled Pronunciation[ev-uh-loo-shuhn or, especially Brit., ee-vuh-] Pronunciation Key – Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. any process of formation or growth; development: the evolution of a language; the evolution of the airplane.
2. a product of such development; something evolved“Spiritual evolution” – I like it!
Thanks, Cato – you Wizard, you!
Hey Mandy, next time you visit my site, look at the slogan: “Faith in the 21st Century”. That phrase is all about spiritual evolution. A spirituality that is based on books that list rules for living in ancient times is hard to convert into modern practices. Hence my tagline back over at FB about a religion needing to not be fixed on a dogma that was appropriate for one age.
Quote (kejonn @ April 19 2008,07:11) Hey Mandy, next time you visit my site, look at the slogan: “Faith in the 21st Century”. That phrase is all about spiritual evolution. A spirituality that is based on books that list rules for living in ancient times is hard to convert into modern practices. Hence my tagline back over at FB about a religion needing to not be fixed on a dogma that was appropriate for one age.
Thanks, I'll check it out.Quote (Not3in1 @ April 18 2008,14:13) Quote (kejonn @ April 19 2008,07:11) Hey Mandy, next time you visit my site, look at the slogan: “Faith in the 21st Century”. That phrase is all about spiritual evolution. A spirituality that is based on books that list rules for living in ancient times is hard to convert into modern practices. Hence my tagline back over at FB about a religion needing to not be fixed on a dogma that was appropriate for one age.
Thanks, I'll check it out.
I think that Jesus was doing just what I said. Except he was trying to evolve the faith of his people to the 1st century and to stop living in the bronze age.
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