Understanding scripture

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  • #372951
    terraricca
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 11 2014,02:25)
    Hi T,
    Is scripture wrong?

    No just misunderstood.
    God goes out of His way to make things clear.


    No,scriptures are not wrong but it is men that present them in a way that is wrong

    #372952
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 11 2014,02:28)
    Hi T,
    If you spend you time just picking faults you will make little progress yourself.


    hi Nick

    No ,i do not spend my time doing that ;I just take the time to show ,were to pay attention to those that start in the truth ,

    and how men use the scriptures in the wrong way ;

    #372953
    NickHassan
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    Hi T,
    Only others?

    #373002
    terraricca
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 11 2014,03:11)
    Hi T,
    Only others?


    even if we ask you ,you do not answer

    #373004
    NickHassan
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    Hi,
    Let scripture interpret scripture.

    All flesh be silent

    #373008
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 12 2014,01:43)
    Hi,
    Let scripture interpret scripture.

    All flesh be silent


    hi Nick

    which version of the scriptures are going to use ???

    #373010
    NickHassan
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    Hi T,
    Have you not found one that you can rely on?
    They all have faults that you need to be aware of .
    The worst IMO is the NIV with it's gross additions[eg JESUS added in Jn 12.41]

    #373023
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 12 2014,03:41)
    Hi T,
    Have you not found one that you can rely on?
    They all have faults that you need to be aware of .
    The worst IMO is the NIV with it's gross additions[eg JESUS added in Jn 12.41]


    hi Nick

    Jn 12:41 These things said Isaiah, because he saw his glory; and he spake of him.

    who is the “his”???

    #373041
    NickHassan
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    Hi T,
    The glory of the Lord of Hosts, our God.[Is6]

    It is evil imagination to say that there was another god in another heavenly temple

    #373064
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 12 2014,09:57)
    Hi T,
    The glory of the Lord of Hosts, our God.[Is6]

    It is evil imagination to say that there was another god in another heavenly temple


    hi Nick

    Jn 12:41 Isaiah said this because he saw Jesus’ glory and spoke about him.
    Jn 12:42 Yet at the same time many even among the leaders believed in him. But because of the Pharisees they would not confess their faith for fear they would be put out of the synagogue;
    Jn 12:43 for they loved praise from men more than praise from God

    Jn 12:38 This was to fulfill the word of Isaiah the prophet:
    “Lord, who has believed our message
    and to whom has the ARM of the Lord been revealed?”
    Jn 12:39 For this reason they could not believe, because, as Isaiah says elsewhere:
    Jn 12:40 “He has blinded their eyes
    and deadened their hearts,
    so they can neither see with their eyes,
    nor understand with their hearts,
    nor turn—and I would heal them.”

    first who is THE ARM of God ???

    Isa 53:1 Who has believed our message
    and to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?
    Isa 53:2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot,
    and like a root out of dry ground.
    He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,
    nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.
    Isa 53:3 He was despised and rejected by men,
    a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering.
    Like one from whom men hide their faces
    he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

    Isa 53:4 Surely he took up our infirmities
    and carried our sorrows,
    yet we considered him stricken by God,
    smitten by him, and afflicted.
    Isa 53:5 But he was pierced for our transgressions,
    he was crushed for our iniquities;
    the punishment that brought us peace was upon him,
    and by his wounds we are healed.
    Isa 53:6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
    each of us has turned to his own way;
    and the LORD has laid on him
    the iniquity of us all.

    tell me of whom is it talks about in those verses ???

    #373065
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    The word JESUS was never in the book of Isaiah quoted by John.
    Do you think it is OK to add to scripture?

    #373067
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    Jesus could no nothing without the Father.
    He said so.

    So does Acts 10.28

    The Finger of God is the Holy Spirit and so is the Arm of God.

    Paul said
    “I can do all things through Him Who strengthens me”

    God is all

    #373068
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 12 2014,23:38)
    Hi T,
    The word JESUS was never in the book of Isaiah quoted by John.
    Do you think it is OK to add to scripture?


    HI Nick

    answer my questions ;do not run away

    #373069
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 12 2014,23:42)
    Hi T,
    Jesus could no nothing without the Father.
    He said so.

    So does Acts 10.28

    The Finger of God is the Holy Spirit and so is the Arm of God.

    Paul said
    “I can do all things through Him Who strengthens me”

    God is all


    Nick

    this does not answer my questions

    #373070
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    Do you only want to hear what you have decided?

    #373071
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    Is it OK to ADD to scripture?

    #373072
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    Jesus Christ, the anointed man, was nothing to look at.
    He had no power of his own to impress folk.
    God's power shows up in weak people.

    #373075
    terraricca
    Participant

    NICK

    please answer my questions ;ONE NAME WOULD BE OK

    Jn 12:41 Isaiah said this because he saw Jesus’ glory and spoke about him.
    Jn 12:42 Yet at the same time many even among the leaders believed in him. But because of the Pharisees they would not confess their faith for fear they would be put out of the synagogue;
    Jn 12:43 for they loved praise from men more than praise from God

    Jn 12:38 This was to fulfill the word of Isaiah the prophet:
    “Lord, who has believed our message
    and to whom has the ARM of the Lord been revealed?”
    Jn 12:39 For this reason they could not believe, because, as Isaiah says elsewhere:
    Jn 12:40 “He has blinded their eyes
    and deadened their hearts,
    so they can neither see with their eyes,
    nor understand with their hearts,
    nor turn—and I would heal them.”

    1)first who is THE ARM of God ???

    Isa 53:1 Who has believed our message
    and to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?
    Isa 53:2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot,
    and like a root out of dry ground.
    He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,
    nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.
    Isa 53:3 He was despised and rejected by men,
    a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering.
    Like one from whom men hide their faces
    he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

    Isa 53:4 Surely he took up our infirmities
    and carried our sorrows,
    yet we considered him stricken by God,
    smitten by him, and afflicted.
    Isa 53:5 But he was pierced for our transgressions,
    he was crushed for our iniquities;
    the punishment that brought us peace was upon him,
    and by his wounds we are healed.
    Isa 53:6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
    each of us has turned to his own way;
    and the LORD has laid on him
    the iniquity of us all.

    2)tell me of whom is it talks about in those verses ???

    #373076
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    The anointed man Jesus Christ.

    As a man scarred and battered by sickness and despised not admired, yet mightily used of God.
    Again you quote the ADDED word.
    So it is OK for you?

    #373077
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 13 2014,00:06)
    Hi T,
    The anointed man Jesus Christ.

    As a man scarred and battered by sickness and despised not admired, yet mightily used of God.
    Again you quote the ADDED word.
    So it is OK for you?


    hi Nick

    Quote
    Hi T,
    The glory of the Lord of Hosts, our God.[Is6]

    It is evil imagination to say that there was another god in another heavenly temple

    this was your first answer ;now you give the true answer that it is Jesus ;just as it said in the NIV so what is your problem ???

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