Understanding Revelation

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  • #155796
    terraricca
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    hi to all
    regarding sin past on by Adam, first Adam sin produced the lost of sustaining of live so he died and we haswell ,why we are born in sin it is after Adam coruption is this not obvious ,Adam by breaking the commendement of God corupted is spirit is mind he add aquired an different felling,he could not teach any of is offspring good without teaching is bad,becauce he was kiked out of EDEN has well,wathn kind of story you think Adam was telling is kids ,he must have told is story he was the first couple (.try as a smooker tell your kid smooking is not good for you.)

    #155799
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 10 2009,17:11)
    hi to all
    regarding sin past on by Adam, first Adam sin produced the lost of sustaining of live so he died and we haswell ,why we are born in sin it is after Adam coruption is this not obvious ,Adam by breaking the commendement of God corupted is spirit is mind he add aquired an different felling,he could not teach any of is offspring good without teaching is bad,becauce he was kiked out of EDEN has well,wathn kind of story you think Adam was telling is kids ,he must have told is story he was the first couple (.try as a smooker tell your kid smooking is not good for you.)


    Hi Terraricca,

    Go back and reread Gen.2:17.

    Adam ate from “the tree of Good and EVIL”; bad has “NOTHING” to do with sinning against GOD!

    It is “BAD” for you to smoke cigarettes; but smoking them doesn't mean that you have sinned?

    God bless
    ED J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #155805
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    Did he?

    Scripture says he ate of the tree of KNOWLEDGE OF good and evil.

    There is a very, very, very big difference.

    #155810
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 10 2009,17:54)
    Hi ED,
    Did he?

    Scripture says he ate of the tree of KNOWLEDGE OF good and evil.

    There is a very, very, very big difference.


    Hi Nick,

    Sorry I left out “Knowledge”. Thanks for the correction.

    I sent you an unrelated PM; could you respond to it?

    Ed J

    #155812
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    So Adam and Eve attained to discernment without the wisdom or grace to live by it.

    #155814
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    I have not got a PM yet.

    #155826
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 10 2009,17:27)

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 10 2009,17:11)
    hi to all
    regarding sin past on by Adam, first Adam sin produced the lost of sustaining of live so he died and we haswell ,why we are born in sin it is after Adam coruption is this not obvious ,Adam by breaking the commendement of God corupted is spirit is mind he add aquired an different felling,he could not teach any of is offspring good without teaching is bad,becauce he was kiked out of EDEN has well,wathn kind of story you think Adam was telling is kids ,he must have told is story he was the first couple (.try as a smooker tell your kid smooking is not good for you.)


    Hi Terraricca,

    Go back and reread Gen.2:17.

    Adam ate from “the tree of Good and EVIL”; bad has “NOTHING” to do with sinning against GOD!

    It is “BAD” for you to smoke cigarettes; but smoking them doesn't mean that you have sinned?

    God bless
    ED J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi ED,
    With this new awareness how would you justify this statement you made?

    #155831
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 10 2009,18:31)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 10 2009,17:27)

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 10 2009,17:11)
    hi to all
    regarding sin past on by Adam, first Adam sin produced the lost of sustaining of live so he died and we haswell ,why we are born in sin it is after Adam coruption is this not obvious ,Adam by breaking the commendement of God corupted is spirit is mind he add aquired an different felling,he could not teach any of is offspring good without teaching is bad,becauce he was kiked out of EDEN has well,wathn kind of story you think Adam was telling is kids ,he must have told is story he was the first couple (.try as a smooker tell your kid smooking is not good for you.)


    Hi Terraricca,

    Go back and reread Gen.2:17.

    Adam ate from “the tree of Good and EVIL”; bad has “NOTHING” to do with sinning against GOD!

    It is “BAD” for you to smoke cigarettes; but smoking them doesn't mean that you have sinned?

    God bless
    ED J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi ED,
    With this new awareness how would you justify this statement you made?


    Hi Nick,

    That statement does not contain the word “knowledge”; when it should have.

    I made an error, I was bad bad bad; but I did NOT sin because of it!

    If there is something else you are driving at, please be more specific.

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycityblblecode.org

    #155834
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    No the evidence you presented as support for your idea was faulty, you agreed.
    Do you have any more support for it?

    #155838
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 10 2009,19:00)
    Hi ED,
    No the evidence you presented as support for your idea was faulty, you agreed.
    Do you have any more support for it?


    Hi Nick,

    You mean that smoking cigarettes is not sin?
    The opposite can be said as well.

    You cannot show that smoking cigarettes is sin.

    God bless,

    Ed J

    #155841
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,
    You are off on a tangent. Now so am I.

    The Spirit shows the real sin is rejection of the Son of God[ Jn16.9]

    So what was the point of Gen 2.17?

    #155858
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 10 2009,19:11)
    Hi Ed,
    You are off on a tangent. Now so am I.

    The Spirit shows the real sin is rejection of the Son of God[ Jn16.9]

    So what was the point of Gen 2.17?

    HI Nick,

    As far as I know only the N.W.T. has mistranslated Gen.2:17.

    Evil corrupts bad does not.

    Gen.2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil,
    thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

    Matt.2210 So those servants went out into the highways,
    and gathered together all as many as they found, both “BAD” and “GOOD”: and the wedding was furnished with guests.

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecodde.org

    #155860
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    God chose by His sovereign choice to include some of evil in His guestlist for His son's wedding.
    Shaming the selfrighteous by showing none is really better than any other.

    #155867
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 10 2009,20:04)
    Hi ED,
    God chose by His sovereign choice to include some of evil in His guestlist for His son's wedding.
    Shaming the selfrighteous by showing none is really better than any other.


    Hi Nick,

    I don't know what this means?

    'Shaming the selfrighteous by showing none is really better than any other.'

    Could you explain it.

    Ed J

    #155884
    georg
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 10 2009,20:04)
    Hi ED,
    God chose by His sovereign choice to include some of evil in His guestlist for His son's wedding.
    Shaming the selfrighteous by showing none is really better than any other.


    Nick

    REALY?

    Mat 22:10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.

    Mat 22:11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:

    Mat 22:12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

    Mat 22:13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

    Mat 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

    Georg

    #155890
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Georg,
    If we follow the way we are to be clothed in Christ in baptism.[Gal]

    But God remains sovereign in His choice of wedding guests.

    #155892
    georg
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 11 2009,04:46)
    Hi Georg,
    If we follow the way we are to be clothed in Christ in baptism.[Gal]

    But God remains sovereign in His choice of wedding guests.


    Nick Isn't that what Math, states? The choice was the Kings, and He took the one out into other darkness, who did not have on a Wedding Feast garment. No bad guest aloud. That kind of reminds me when we first started to go to the W,W,Church of God all members on the Sabbath the men had on Suits, and the woman had on Dresses. When we came before our King Jesus Christ, we are to be dressed appropriately.
    Peace and Love Irene

    #155893
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Irene,
    If God chooses to ignore sin he has the right to do so.

    Love covers many sins.
    Blessed is the man to whom no sin is imputed.

    #155894
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Irene,
    The white garments of Revelation are the good deeds of the saints-this is another possibility as faith without deeds is dead.

    #155901
    georg
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 11 2009,05:12)
    Hi Irene,
    If God chooses to ignore sin he has the right to do so.

    Love covers many sins.
    Blessed is the man to whom no sin is imputed.


    Nick

    You can't be serious, “God choosing to ignore sin?”, why then did Jesus have to die?
    I know, you know better than that; maybe you spent to much time on the computer.
    Sin is not imputed to the one who has a repentant heart.

    Georg

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