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Quote (t8 @ June 25 2010,22:40) Jesus Christ
Holy Spirit
Jesus Is Lord
Muhammad Glory
The God Numbers
Jesus Glory
Lord Of Hosts
Kenny Rogers
He Who Is Chosenall equal 906 in English Gematria.
What is the conclusion then?
I knew it!Kenny Rogers is Jesus.
Praise be.
Stuart
Karmarie,
Another seven:
Sin-ai (Sinai) is the feminine of Sin; Sin was a God in ancient Mesopotamia associated with the Moon.
The Moon Goddess was called Shayba (Sheba), from the same root word as Sabbath or Seven.
The most popular of the ancient Goddesses:
Sheba (Shayba; Shebat; Sabbath; Seven); Astarte (Asherah, Asher, Ishtar)
So many sevens Princess of the king,
Further ones to add from the last list….
seventh heaven,
seven Spirits,
Seven loaves,
seven baskets leftover.
seven miracles,
seven discourses,There are seven elements to the “Armor of God” in Ephesians.
Paul sent letters to seven different churches.Seven times in the Book of Revelation blessing of the Lord are promised to His people. These are called the Beattitudes of Revelation.
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 26 2010,03:57) Quote (Ed J @ June 25 2010,01:55) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 25 2010,16:34) BD I think you make a good point!
WJ
Hi WJ,Are you forgetting who the real enemy is? (Mark 8:31-38)
1 John 4:20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar:
for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen,
how can he love God whom he hath not seen?Matt.5:23-24 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar,
and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled
to thy brother (Click Here), and then come and offer thy gift. (Then Click Here)Ed J (Luke 21:33-36 / Eccl.9:12-16)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Isaiah 60:14)
EDYou have been found out. I have seen you on other forums pushing your agenda on those who do not know how or what to respond to.
But you come here and find out differently! You have no special secrets or codes to interpret scriptures.
I am interested in the truth and it doesn't matter if God speaks it through a Jack ass!
BTW, I am in no way saying BD is a Jack ass!
WJ
Keith,The “j” in “Jack ass” should have been lower case. I am “Jack” and a donkey is a “jack ass.”
Jack
Quote Keith, The “j” in “Jack ass” should have been lower case. I am “Jack” and a donkey is a “jack ass.”
Jack
Apparently, I can take this as you are the big Jack Ass, and all other's are the little jack asses. Thanks for the clarification.
It does make sense now, if you think about it, the thought process you have in regards to believing in Little gods and Big gods. It does help to understand some things now and again.
Karmarie,
Seven deadly sins
Seven years of the sabbatical year
Leviticus 25:4Seven times seven to the jubilee year
Leviticus 25:8Daniel’s seventy sevens prophecy
Daniel 9:24-27Seventy years in Babylonian exile
Jeremiah 25:11-12Hi both of you,
I think your right SF, Seven is the number of completion, perfection, “it is done” finished…
“In the days of the voice of the SEVENTH angel, when he shall begin to sound the mystery of God should be FINISHED.”(Rev 10:7
“And the SEVENTH angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne saying, It is DONE.” (Revelation 16:17)
Mans number is 6, man created on the 6th day, (the number 666…a mans number)
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 26 2010,10:29) t8 The problem is there is way to much room for error.
As you said languages change and even words are lost in translation.
So how in the world could it be said there is some secret code to the Bible which originated in different languages and alphabets with any accuracy at all?
If there is some kind of numerical code then wouldn't it stand to reason that you would use the original languages, words, and alphabet?
WJ
The number of the beast is the number of a man and his number is 666.
And Jesus is 888, the new beginning, the eighth day of the week, the eighth colour, etc.Could be a coincidence sure, but names can also be prophetic and God knowing full well the language spoken, could have made it so the prophetic names and titles were not just symbolic in meaning but even what the numbers represent. He could easily have done it and the language was in use before and after Jesus was on Earth.
But I do take exception to the whole Bible being some kind of dictation from God (in King James English or whatever), to the point that it is a numerical pattern. I mean, I don't think God did automatic writing through his prophets and Apostles, rather that they were inspired. Inspiration comes in many forms, and is not usually meant to say that someone was taken over or possessed.
When people win Oscars the often go into what or who inspired them, no one thinks that they are possessed.
The gospels for example are eye witness accounts and that is what one of them even claims. It doesn't say “The Word of the LORD to Luke” for example. So I doubt that such would have any numerical patterns as a whole work. Perhaps with the exception of Revelation which we are told that no one should add or takeaway any words from that particular book. That book supposedly has 888 words.
I guess to sum up, I am saying that gematria is possible and there does seem to be some good evidence for it, but if it is purposeful, then I don't think it was ever meant to be taken as far as some people take it.
Quote (Stu @ June 26 2010,12:04) Quote (t8 @ June 25 2010,22:40) Jesus Christ
Holy Spirit
Jesus Is Lord
Muhammad Glory
The God Numbers
Jesus Glory
Lord Of Hosts
Kenny Rogers
He Who Is Chosenall equal 906 in English Gematria.
What is the conclusion then?
I knew it!Kenny Rogers is Jesus.
Praise be.
Stuart
Yup Kenny is right up there according to the numbers. But I don't have that much faith in those numbers. Therefore I don't put much faith in Kenny either.
He is a bit of a gambler it seems.As Kenny says, you gotta know when to fold em. It is better than a continuous bluff which gets you nowhere in the end.
Judging by some of the changes you appear to have made to the material on the front pages of heaven.net it appears you know when to fold 'em sometimes, t8.
Stuart
Que. No comprendo
Feel free to explain in the feedback section.
BTW, I have no problem with the concept of folding. Admitting when you are wrong is admirable.
Quote (t8 @ June 26 2010,17:48) Even after all this, I still think there is something to gematria, namely from the number system that the scriptures are written in because the number system is built into the alphabet and in Revelation it does say that we can work out the number of the beast. Some interesting facts with Greek Gematria.
Jesus = 888
Lord = 800
Christ = 1480
Saviour = 1408
Son of man = 2960
Truth = 64These are all multiples of 8.
And if the beast is 666, then a pattern starts to emerge because 6 is the day man was created and the beast's number us said to be the number of man or a man.
But I think this whole thing can be taken too far, even to the point of saying that it is not true if the gematria doesn't add up. The real problem with these numbers is that there are many variations and you can always cleverly add up what you want to say what you want. If it doesn't add up the way you want it, then change a few words till you get the desired result.
The other thing is the English language is not a logical language. It takes from other languages and new words are created from slang, abbreviations, and technology that men name for whatever reason. Plus the number system is not built into the alphabet meaning that you can decide what number base to use increasing the chances of making it say what you want it to say.
Hello all,Is there a conspiracy to push this Jack ass system?
Bod made a good thread with this subject and his comments. Others appear to be quite honest and serious about rejecting this @#$@ concoction, too. Gematria; taking the focus off of Jesus and onto ANOTHER SYSTEM (God).
I don't understand why t8 agrees with him.
What about all of the scholars who say that Jesus' name wasn't really Jesus but Yahshua (and is that with 5 or 6 Hebrew letters?). Also 2,000 years ago there wasn't a letter “J”. What about the 1,000s of correction and changes to the KJV. Is Jehovah's name Jehova, Yahweh, Yehova, etc?
Best of all, why waste precious time converting letters to numbers and then have a mystical system of hidden meanings? To create a secret society? lol
BOD you were right on!
David
Quote (davidbfun @ July 21 2010,00:13) BOD you were right on! David
Hi David,Why don't you join with BD and become a Muslim?
Quote (Ed J @ July 21 2010,00:42) Quote (davidbfun @ July 21 2010,00:13) BOD you were right on! David
Hi David,Why don't you join with BD and become a Muslim?
ED,Is it now “No numbers, No Christian”? Sounds like another denominational seperation game that has splintered Christianity into 39,000 denominations what happened to being One in Christ Jesus.
By the way once again Muslim simply means in English Submitter so if you could move aside you hatred for the language of others you would see that True followers of Christ JESUS are already SUBMITTERS to GOD, but you want someone to submit to the god of your own creation
well here is a message for only you ED:
3756 3552 255 253 29 24727
SF,
The point was targetted at t8's last statement…'admit when you are wrong'.
It is slightly 'lost' on the same line as the other statement.
That was all.
A supporting post with suggestion of an enhancement.
Once again ED goes off on a tangent in which he insists on bearing false witness. Ed keeps calling ALLAH the moongod
this is not only incorrect it is also an attack on God Almighty because ED is saying that there is such a thing as another god
If the Quran spoke about Allah as a moongod Ed would have a point but there is no such description instead it says clearly:He has made subject to you the Night and the Day; the sun and the moon; and the stars are in subjection by His Command: verily in this are Signs for men who are wise.
( سورة النحل , An-Nahl, Chapter #16, Verse #12)Allah is He Who raised the heavens without any pillars that ye can see; is firmly established on the throne (of authority); He has subjected the sun and the moon (to his Law)! Each one runs (its course) for a term appointed. He doth regulate all affairs, explaining the signs in detail, that ye may believe with certainty in the meeting with your Lord.
( سورة الرعد , Ar-Rad, Chapter #13, Verse #2)It is He Who created the Night and the Day, and the sun and the moon: all (the celestial bodies) swim along, each in its rounded course.
( سورة الأنبياء , Al-Anbiya, Chapter #21, Verse #33)Your Guardian-Lord is Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in six days, and is firmly established on the throne (of authority): He draweth the night as a veil o'er the day, each seeking the other in rapid succession: He created the sun, the moon, and the stars, (all) governed by laws under His command. Is it not His to create and to govern? Blessed be Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds!
( سورة الأعراف , Al-Araf, Chapter #7, Verse #54)ED Wrote:
Hi Marlavi,
Non-Canonical books “should” be avoided by the beginner Christians,
sticking only to the 66 books (Gen.1:1-Rev.22:21) approved for study.
The reason for this is: views from these books can often be confusing.
However once a Christian is fully mature (Eph.4:13), nothing can hurt
their walk with the LORD! They’ll be able find God’s truth everywhere.God bless
Ed JWhy does ED only accept the canon of 66 books why not the canon of 73 books or 81 books?
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