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Quote (Ed J @ April 08 2012,13:58) Hi BD, What about the part about killing Christians and Jews?
That's not in “The Bible”? did you somehow think it was?B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)
EDThe Jews were killing the Christians at the time of Christ
Galatians 1:13
For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:did you not know that?
Acts 7:58-60
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58And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul.
59And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.
Didn't you know that?
Quote (Wakeup @ April 08 2012,20:32) Quote Bodhitharta. You are a very intelligent man; can you see love in those qur'an verses?
Did not jesus say; one man one wife?
Did not jesus say; love your neighbour?
Where is the word love ever mentioned in the qur'an?
Does the qur'an teach to give your other cheek?Say: “If ye do love Allah, Follow me: Allah will love you and forgive you your sins: For Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.”
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #31)Notice the Power to forgive sins is not based on sacrifice but simply Love,forgiveness and mercy:
Luke 7:47
Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little.No blood required
Quote The old jewish law is very strick,for a purpose; to keep his disobedient children from getting all mixed up with the gentiles. But since christ came,that same law is wrtitten in our hearts, this meaning; that we dont disobey God; So Christians don't disobey God? The Jewish law is not done away with as you suppose it is practised everyday. What does the psalmist say about “The Law”
Psalm 119:1
Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.I agree that the progression of this Law is the Law of Liberty
Quote because we love God. We dont have to be circumcised in the flesh any more,but circumcised in the heart.We dont have to scrifice bulls anymore, but scrifice by doing Gods will.
That is; no stealing,no warring no adultery etc.The bible calls circumcision an everlasting covenant but then as a progression to the gentiles it is told to be not needed for them.
Note: Circumcision is not even mentioned in the Quran because as the natural progression unfolds for the law to be in our hearts we must restore complete devotion to God alone. Most Muslims are circumcised however by choice or should I say their parents choice.
Quote If Jehovah God is = to allah; Why then is Jehovahs city JERUSALEM; and allah”s city MECCA?
God said in the prophets,that he will bring back israel,and not the gentiles; I will have mercy on you for my name sake:allah said the opposite; he said; KILL EVERY JEW.
where ever they are hiding find them and kill them.Is allah schizophrenic?[Quote]Allah does not say kill every Jew where did you get that from? In fact Allah says:
Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve.
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #62)This is what so may people take out of context when the truth is it says:
those who believe fight in the way of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight in the way of the Shaitan. fight therefore against the friends of the Shaitan; surely the strategy of the Shaitan is weak.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #76)Permission (to fight) is given to those upon whom war is made because they are oppressed, and most surely Allah is well able to assist them;
( سورة الحج , Al-Hajj, Chapter #22, Verse #39[Quote]Why would jehovah God require all his followers to face mecca to pray; when his temple is, and always will be in jerusalem his holy city to come,(for today it is corrupted).
First you should know tht it was Christians who had turned the temple ground into a garbage heap the Muslims put the area back to a better state and assured that the Jews had access back to that area. Regarding the direction of Prayer:
The fools among the people will say, “What has turned them (Muslims) from their Qiblah [prayer direction (towards Jerusalem)] to which they used to face in prayer.” Say, “To Allah belong both, east and the west. He guides whom He wills to the Straight Way.”
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #142)For every nation there is a direction to which they face (in their prayers). So hasten towards all that is good. Wheresoever you may be, Allah will bring you together (on the Day of Resurrection). Truly, Allah is Able to do all things.
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #148)Quote Muslems do not except Christ sacrifice; so what are the muslems doing for sacrifice? are they still slautering bulls?
can animal sacrifices save our souls? For God said in the old testament, ''all your good works are like dirty raggs to me”.First of all the scriptures do not say ''all your good works are like dirty raggs to me”. it says “6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.” This is not God talking it is Isaiah appealing to God.
Deuteronomy 6:25
And it shall be our righteousness, if we observe to do all these commandments before the LORD our God, as he hath commanded us.But have you never heard what Jesus himself says regarding Sacrifice:
Matthew 9:13
But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.Matthew 12:7
But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.What does God say?:
Hosea 6:6
For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.The idea that God needs blood to be appeased is a pagan concept God does not need the blood of anything HE OWNS EVERYTHING
Salvation comes from the Mercy of God
Those who remember Allah (always, and in prayers) standing, sitting, and lying down on their sides, and think deeply about the creation of the heavens and the earth, (saying): “Our Lord! You have not created (all) this without purpose, glory to You! (Exalted are You above all that they associate with You as partners). Give us salvation from the torment of the Fire.
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #191)Chapter 3
196 Let not the strutting about of the Unbelievers throug
h the land deceive thee:
197 Little is it for enjoyment: Their ultimate abode is Hell: what an evil bed (To lie on)!
198 On the other hand, for those who fear their Lord, are Gardens, with rivers flowing beneath; therein are they to dwell (for ever),- a gift from the presence of Allah. and that which is in the presence of Allah is the best (bliss) for the righteous.
199 And there are, certainly, among the People of the Book, those who believe in Allah, in the revelation to you, and in the revelation to them, bowing in humility to Allah. They will not sell the Signs of Allah for a miserable gain! For them is a reward with their Lord, and Allah is swift in account.
200 O ye who believe! Persevere in patience and constancy; vie in such perseverance; strengthen each other; and fear Allah. that ye may prosper.And give glad tidings to those who believe and do righteous good deeds, that for them will be Gardens under which rivers flow (paradise). Every time they will be provided with a fruit therefrom, they will say: “This is what we were provided with before,” and they will be given things in resemblance (i.e. in the same form but different in taste) and they shall have therein Azwajun Mutahharatun (purified mates or wives) and they will abide therein forever.
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #25)The principle of Salvation in the Quran is what Jesus taught which is repentance is Salvation.
Revelation 20:12
And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.Sura #10
61 In whatever business thou mayest be, and whatever portion thou mayest be reciting from the Qur'an,- and whatever deed ye (mankind) may be doing,- We are witnesses thereof when ye are deeply engrossed therein. Nor is hidden from thy Lord (so much as) the weight of an atom on the earth or in heaven. And not the least and not the greatest of these things but are recorded in a clear record.
as for Mercy
If any does good, the reward to him is better than his deed; but if any does evil, the doers of evil are only punished (to the extent) of their deeds.
( سورة القصص , Al-Qasas, Chapter #28, Verse #84)Quote If Jesus is just a prophet; then why did he say ''the prophet is untill John,what about Jesus? For he is a prophet to you.
You dont agree with the new testment, but why are you quoting them so often? why dont you quote the qur'an instead? For the qur'an to you is the last testament of allah.Jesus called himself a prophet
Matthew 13:57
And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house.Matthew 21:11
And the multitude said, This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee.Luke 24:19
And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people:There is the proof Jesus was a Prophet and Christ
Quote As a muslem, I think you should quote the qur'an more often. If you are already rejecting the Quran without reading it sometimes it is best to show you out of the book you already embrace but I have no problem quoting more from the Quran and look forward to it
Quote If Jehovah God is allah,WHY is allah contradicting Jehovahs words? Has God change his doctrine since year 630ad? This is what you should be asking Christians because God said:
Deuteronomy 24:16
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16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.
Ezekiel 18
19Yet say ye, Why? doth not the son bear the iniquity of the father? When the son hath done that which is lawful and right, and hath kept all my statutes, and hath done them, he shall surely live.
20The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
21But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
22All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.
23Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?
Jeremiah 31:30
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30But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge.
Quote has he change his city also,has he moved to mecca?
Gods temple has always been in jerusalem, and will always be in jerusalem.Your idea itself is mistaken:
Jeremiah 7:3-7
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3Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, Amend your ways and your doings, and I will cause you to dwell in this place.
4Trust ye not in lying words, saying, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, are these.
5For if ye throughly amend your ways and your doings; if ye throughly execute judgment between a man and his neighbour;
6If ye oppress not the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, and shed not innocent blood in this place, neither walk after other gods to your hurt:
7Then will I cause you to dwell in this place, in the land that I gave to your fathers, for ever and ever.
God's Throne is in Heaven
(He is) Lord of the two easts and Lord of the two Wests:
( سورة الرحمن , Ar-Rahman, Chapter #55, Verse #17)Quote You must quote the kor,an more than the scriptures,for you think the scriptures has been corrupted by the jews. Twhole point of Islam is that the books of The Jews, The Christians and Islam are all from the same God so unlike some Christians who only read the NT or Jews that only read the Torah we realize this all comes from the Lord God ad even attempts to corrupt it only help Prove the cause of God
Romans 3:4
God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.Sura #5
13 But because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them, and made the
ir hearts grow hard; they change the words from their (right) places and forget a good part of the message that was sent them, nor wilt thou cease to find them- barring a few – ever bent on (new) deceits: but forgive them, and overlook (their misdeeds): for Allah loveth those who are kind.And the Word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can change His words. And He is the All-Hearer, the All-Knower.
( سورة الأنعام , Al-Anaam, Chapter #6, Verse #115)Quote I like to see you defending your believe USING the qur'an That's not a problem
Quote Greetings to you muslem friend. wakeup.
Peace be to you and God bless
Quote (bodhitharta @ April 09 2012,05:38) Quote (Ed J @ April 08 2012,13:58) Hi BD, What about the part about killing Christians and Jews?
That's not in “The Bible”? did you somehow think it was?B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)
EDThe Jews were killing the Christians at the time of Christ
Galatians 1:13
For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:did you not know that?
Acts 7:58-60
King James Version (KJV)
58And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul.
59And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.
Didn't you know that?
Hi BD,Two wrongs don't make a right.
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
Quote (bodhitharta @ April 09 2012,08:36) Say: “If ye do love Allah, Follow me: Allah will love you and forgive you your sins: For Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.”
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #31)
“He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.” (1John 2:22)This is about 'al-Lah': the spirit of antichrist…
Daniel 11:37-39 (1)Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, (2)nor the desire of women,
(3)nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all. 38 (4)But in his estate shall he
honor the God of forces: (5)and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold,
and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things. 39 Thus shall he do in the most
strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: …'al-Lah' is this strange god!עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
Quote (bodhitharta @ April 09 2012,08:36) So Christians don't disobey God? The Jewish law is not done away with as you suppose it is practised everyday. What does the psalmist say about “The Law” Psalm 119:1
Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.I agree that the progression of this Law is the Law of Liberty
“He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.” (1John 2:22)
Jesus remediated the Covenant of GOD! (Matt.6:28)
“let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also
the wife unto the husband. The wife hath not power of her own body,
but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power
of his own body, but the wife.” (1Corinthians 7:2-4)עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
Quote (bodhitharta @ April 09 2012,08:36) If you are already rejecting the Quran without reading it sometimes it is best to show you out of the book you already embrace but I have no problem quoting more from the Quran and look forward to it Quote (Ed J @ April 09 2012,12:22) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 09 2012,08:36) So Christians don't disobey God? The Jewish law is not done away with as you suppose it is practised everyday. What does the psalmist say about “The Law” Psalm 119:1
Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.I agree that the progression of this Law is the Law of Liberty
“He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.” (1John 2:22)
Jesus remediated the Covenant of GOD! (Matt.6:28)
“let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also
the wife unto the husband. The wife hath not power of her own body,
but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power
of his own body, but the wife.” (1Corinthians 7:2-4)עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
EDPaul's opinions are not God's prohibition he also said you shouldn't marry.
1 Corinthians 7:8-10
King James Version (KJV)
8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I.
If they had listened to Paul there would be no Christians at all today
Basically Paul is not saying you should have just one wife he is saying ideally you should have no wives at all. I guess he thought the end was coming sooner rather than later
Quote (bodhitharta @ April 09 2012,13:28) Quote (Ed J @ April 09 2012,12:22) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 09 2012,08:36) So Christians don't disobey God? The Jewish law is not done away with as you suppose it is practised everyday. What does the psalmist say about “The Law” Psalm 119:1
Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.I agree that the progression of this Law is the Law of Liberty
“He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.” (1John 2:22)
Jesus remediated the Covenant of GOD! (Matt.6:28)
“let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also
the wife unto the husband. The wife hath not power of her own body,
but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power
of his own body, but the wife.” (1Corinthians 7:2-4)עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
EDPaul's opinions are not God's prohibition he also said you shouldn't marry.
1 Corinthians 7:8-10
King James Version (KJV)
8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I.
If they had listened to Paul there would be no Christians at all today
Basically Paul is not saying you should have just one wife he is saying ideally you should have no wives at all. I guess he thought the end was coming sooner rather than later
Hi BD,Are YOU being a deceptive muslim again
following the 'wrong god'(al-Lah) of
the false prophet(Muhammad)?Here is what Jesus, the “Only Begotten Son of GOD” said:
But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.
For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some
eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs
(like the Apostle Paul) for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. (Matt 19:11-12)
Apparently 'YOU' are still NOT able to receive the sayings of Jesus Christ, right BD? (see Hebrews 1:1-7 and Hebrews 12:1-4)(1 John 2:22)
“He is antichrist, that denieth the Father (יהוה YÄ-hä-vā) and the Son (יהשוע YÄ-shü-ă).”
יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)Quote (Ed J @ April 09 2012,15:37) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 09 2012,13:28) Quote (Ed J @ April 09 2012,12:22) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 09 2012,08:36) So Christians don't disobey God? The Jewish law is not done away with as you suppose it is practised everyday. What does the psalmist say about “The Law” Psalm 119:1
Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.I agree that the progression of this Law is the Law of Liberty
“He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.” (1John 2:22)
Jesus remediated the Covenant of GOD! (Matt.6:28)
“let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also
the wife unto the husband. The wife hath not power of her own body,
but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power
of his own body, but the wife.” (1Corinthians 7:2-4)עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
EDPaul's opinions are not God's prohibition he also said you shouldn't marry.
1 Corinthians 7:8-10
King James Version (KJV)
8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I.
If they had listened to Paul there would be no Christians at all today
Basically Paul is not saying you should have just one wife he is saying ideally you should have no wives at all. I guess he thought the end was coming sooner rather than later
Hi BD,Are YOU being a deceptive muslim again
following the 'wrong god'(al-Lah) of
the false prophet(Muhammad)?Here is what Jesus, the “Only Begotten Son of GOD” said:
But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.
For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some
eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs
(like the Apostle Paul) for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. (Matt 19:11-12)
Apparently 'YOU' are still NOT able to receive the sayings of Jesus Christ, right BD? (see Hebrews 1:1-7 and Hebrews 12:1-4)(1 John 2:22)
“He is antichrist, that denieth the Father (יהוה YÄ-hä-vā) and the Son (יהשוע YÄ-shü-ă).”
יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
So I am right if they listened to Paul who said that he wished they were all like him, there would be no Christians, right?Hi BD, What is his name, and what is his son's name?
Prov 30:4-6 is clearly speaking about: [יהוה] YÄ-hä-vā and his son [יהשוע]YÄ-shü-ă
Here is the context…
Prov 30:4-6 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists?
who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth?
what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell? Every word of God is pure:
he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.Therefore, all muslins are found to be LIARS and ANTICHRIST!
“He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.” (1John 2:22)That means a trip to the 'lake of fire, sorry!
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers,
and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part
in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the SECOND DEATH.Witness (Ed) עד (Joshua 22:34)
Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2012,08:25) No BD, you are deluded, drop the 'book of fraud'.
So if everyone became eunichs children would still be born? Do you have any sense?Quote (bodhitharta @ April 10 2012,10:35) Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2012,08:25) No BD, you are deluded, drop the 'book of fraud'.
So if everyone became eunichs children would still be born? Do you have any sense?
“The carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God,
neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.” (Romans 8:7-8)Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2012,15:55) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 10 2012,10:35) Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2012,08:25) No BD, you are deluded, drop the 'book of fraud'.
So if everyone became eunichs children would still be born? Do you have any sense?
“The carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God,
neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.” (Romans 8:7-8)
Genesis 1:31
And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.Quote (bodhitharta @ April 11 2012,07:36) Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2012,15:55) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 10 2012,10:35) Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2012,08:25) No BD, you are deluded, drop the 'book of fraud'.
So if everyone became eunichs children would still be born? Do you have any sense?
“The carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God,
neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.” (Romans 8:7-8)
Genesis 1:31
And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Hi BD,YHVH also said: “Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it:
for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.” (Gen.2:16-17)And also: “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. For if,
when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled,
we shall be saved by his life. And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom
we have now received the atonement. Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin;
and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:” (Romans 5:8-12)1Corinthians 15:22-23 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But
every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)Quote (Ed J @ April 11 2012,20:33) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 11 2012,07:36) Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2012,15:55) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 10 2012,10:35) Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2012,08:25) No BD, you are deluded, drop the 'book of fraud'.
So if everyone became eunichs children would still be born? Do you have any sense?
“The carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God,
neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.” (Romans 8:7-8)
Genesis 1:31
And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Hi BD,YHVH also said: “Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it:
for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.” (Gen.2:16-17)And also: “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. For if,
when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled,
we shall be saved by his life. And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom
we have now received the atonement. Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin;
and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:” (Romans 5:8-12)1Corinthians 15:22-23 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But
every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)
But EDAdam didn't die the day he ate the fruit his punishment was to be placed out of the Garden because God had mercy on them. It is just like the story of Jonah God taught them about repentance.
Satan knew that God wasn't going to kill them because he knew God was Merciful and loved them
remember Jonah saying this:
Jonah 4:2
King James Version (KJV)
2And he prayed unto the LORD, and said, I pray thee, O LORD, was not this my saying, when I was yet in my country? Therefore I fled before unto Tarshish: for I knew that thou art a gracious God, and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repentest thee of the evil.
The Quran explains:
Then learnt adam from his Lord words of inspiration, and his Lord Turned towards him; for He is Oft-Returning, Most Merciful.
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #37)Christians always assume that somehow Adam did die like a day is like a thousand years and theories like that but God had already explained what a Day was Morning and Evening and Adam did not Die on the day he ate the fruit he learned what repentance was and God forgave him.
For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in
his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. (1 Cor 15:21-23)Quote (Ed J @ April 12 2012,12:27) For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in
his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. (1 Cor 15:21-23)
Was Lazarus raised from the dead in a different way than Jesus?Quote (Ed J @ April 12 2012,19:29) Yep
What was the difference they were both in a tomb for 3 days and I believe Lazarus was even in the tomb longerJhn 11:17 Then when Jesus came, he found that he had lain in the grave four days already.
Now when Jesus was raised he just like Lazarus was flesh and bone
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