Ubu vs Urantia

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  • #371092
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    I am a little jealous that the Urantia has dozens of avid readers around the world and with a challenge from Colter, I have decided to compete head on with Urantia with my own book. Watch out Urantia.

    Here is the challenge:

    Quote (Colter @ Feb. 12 2014,14:40)
    And if you could do this with your imagination thenout won  I might buy your book and read it:

    I have written the first chapter (took 5 minutes) and would like others to contribute to the book.

    Rules: keep it science fiction; use current scientific knowledge and imagine future uses of it; take wild ideas about human history and archaeology and apply them in a way as to sound feasible; and keep it interesting. Remember we are trying to get more followers than Urantiaology. Oh and don't forget to weave in religious ideas found in the Bible to not only find appeal with billions, but to make it sound feasible to them. Try to frame some biblical ideas into a context that sounds more interesting than the Bible and try inputting mysteries so that you are free to crack the mystery in any way you desire.

    Who knows, maybe even Gene Roddenberry might read our one too. The sky is the limit.

    #371098
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    Ubu

    Chapter 1.

    In the beginning was planet Ubu. the seventh planet in the solar system as counted by entrance to the solar system from our home system of Alpabeta Centuri. Aboard our ship called the “Arc” we took 2 pairs of animal kinds from our home planet and seven pairs of animals that we used for food and cultivation.

    While there was no life on Ubu and with an acidic atmosphere, we terraformed Ubu over an extended period while based on the arc which we put in orbit around Ubu to become its only moon. We positioned in an exact orbit of Earth so that a full solar eclipse was possible. Eventually after many generations, Ubu was ready. We first laid down the plants that we took with us, and we genetically modified others so that they would tale to Ubu's unique habitat. Once the first colonizers of plants were established we next placed larger trees which over ran much of the first colonizer ecosystems. Smaller animals followed then larger ones. Lastly we genetically modified some of our own species who volunteered to be the pioneers of Ubu so that they would be perfect adaptations for the unique environment.

    Satania a rebel from the galactic alliance sometimes past this way on spy missions, and when all who inhabit the outposts had to give reports as to their destinations and activities to the great council, he appeared among them to give his testimony. He reported having visited Ubu and watched the terra-forming of the planet. His desire was to take the planet for himself in a rebel galactic alliance that he had set up. Santania waited patiently for all the hard work to be done and then he invaded. He took control of the planet from Adama and Evebaccauiologle the co-rulers of Ubu who were the first genetically modified beings sent to inhabit Ubu. In this time, many generations of Ubians were scattered to in the northern hemisphere with some who inhabited a continent surround by sea called Australubu.

    Satania and his co-workers of inquity took as many wives for themselves as they desired Ubians for their DNA was still compatible. Satania and his rebel co-horts sinned against all the species that had been placed on Ubu. They mixed girraffe DNA with lizard to create blood thirsty animals known as dinos that consumed one another. The offspring of Satania and his cohorts with Ubian women became mighty as they were larger in frame than Ubians. Because of their strength and secret knowledge they became the legends of Ubian history as Ubians in this time were kept ignorant of their true origin. These offspring of the satans were blood thirsty and violent and killed Ubians at will whenever they were not useful to them. They kept Ubians as slaves to build Pyramid power stations to help setup an important strategic energy and data grid to modernize the planet with technology with the hope of connecting Ubu to other planets in their rebel confederation.

    The Galactic Council was furious and vowed to send messengers to Ubu to dethrone Satania from Ubu. A great plan was set. It included destroying all the works of Satania and starting again. The battle was about to begin.

    #371099
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    Feel free to contribute to chapter 2 as this work is open source. Often open source competes better than proprietary formats. Let's get more followers than Urantiaology.

    Some interesting directions we could take include quantum mechanics and inter-dimensional beings, warp drives and folding space, and the sending down of messengers from the arc to Ubu to help free the Ubians.

    Chapter 2…

    #371107
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    The challenge was to make bold scientific statements that currently are not known but will be discovered in the future.

    #371109
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    Um, yes we can do that. But to be fair, the Urantia would alo need to do that.

    #371110
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    Prediction 001:
    In the future, there will be pixels everywhere. Every available surface will become potential space for advertising once cheap internet connected smart panels are invented. Even your car will have advertising on it. The whole sky will be covered in ads too using a new projection technology. Everyone will be trying to make a dollar and all you need to do is point your phone at the advert. If a purchase is made, the surface of origin gets a slice of the profit

    Scientific discovery 001:
    Waves are really spirals. We cannot see them as spirals because the far side is always away from our vision as we see in 2 dimensions, look at it from the top and you have a closed circle. Put a spring in its side, what do you see? A wave. Our understanding currently understands the spectrum and closed circles and spheres such as stars, planets, and moons. The spiral shape will form a new radical scientific theory that explains quantum and astro-physics as one unified theory that demonstrates a fourth and fifth dimensional universe. It will also explain dark matter.

    Feel free to make predictions that are perhaps obvious given today's level of scientific knowledge and technology. We could weave these ideas to the main story. Remember to make it sound feasible guys as this thing needs to become a religion or at least have a cult following.

    #371118
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    Prediction 002:

    The Book of Ubu will become the new revelation.

    Dozens of readers of Urantia will convert to the Book of Ubu and persecute the Urantians. The ones that stay will become stuck with the old revelation and basically become old farts.

    #371120
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    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 13 2014,11:55)
    Um, yes we can do that. But to be fair, the Urantia would alo need to do that.


    It has done that, I posted one of a number of such examples but you resorted to this childishness instead. UBthenews

    #371178
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    I haven't got time to wade through pages of propaganda, just as you probably didn't have time to read that PDF document I linked to. (I didn't read that PDF myself.) How about you submit the single biggest proof and I can research that and I will provide a supposed mistake according to that PDF document or other site. We can then work through each point and give it the attention they deserve.

    #371179
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    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 14 2014,16:34)
    I haven't got time to wade through pages of propaganda, just as you probably didn't have time to read that PDF document I linked to. (I didn't read that PDF myself.) How about you submit the single biggest proof and I can research that and I will provide a supposed mistake according to that PDF document or other site. We can then work through each point and give it the attention they deserve.


    The biggest proof of truth in the UB is the witness of the heart, of the spirit of God within. Like the apostles and Jesus.

    As for interesting scientific validation there are many, but one of my favorites is the introduction of new genetic material into the human gene pool by Adam & Eve

    “Starting in 2004 numerous reports started to be published relating to portions of the Y chromosome and the Microcephalin gene. The Microcephalin gene play a critical role in the growth of the brain. The research results closely correlate with what The Urantia Book says about the spread of the genetic and cultural contributions of Adam and Eve. The research into Microcephalin indicates that new genetic material was introduced into the Microcephalin gene about 37,000 years ago and that the rest of the Microcephalin gene was approximately 990,000 years old. None of the obvious explanations for how new material might have been introduced fit well with the results of the research. It then spread into most of the human population quite rapidly, excepting sub-Saharan Africa. Similarly, Y chromosome related studies also document how some types of mutations or other changes occurred around 40,000 years ago, originating in the Mesopotamia region, and spreading quickly into most of humanity, excepting sub-Saharan Africa.”

    Y Chromosome

    #371182
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    Adam and Eve

    (828.1) 74:0.1 ADAM AND EVE arrived on Urantia, from the year A.D. 1934, 37,848 years ago. It was in midseason when the Garden was in the height of bloom that they arrived. At high noon and unannounced, the two seraphic transports, accompanied by the Jerusem personnel intrusted with the transportation of the biologic uplifters to Urantia, settled slowly to the surface of the revolving planet in the vicinity of the temple of the Universal Father. All the work of rematerializing the bodies of Adam and Eve was carried on within the precincts of this newly created shrine. And from the time of their arrival ten days passed before they were re-created in dual human form for presentation as the world’s new rulers. They regained consciousness simultaneously. The Material Sons and Daughters always serve together. It is the essence of their service at all times and in all places never to be separated. They are designed to work in pairs; seldom do they function alone.”……

    The Violet Race

    (850.7) 76:4.1 Adam and Eve were the founders of the violet race of men, the ninth human race to appear on Urantia. Adam and his offspring had blue eyes, and the violet peoples were characterized by fair complexions and light hair color — yellow, red, and brown.

    (850.8) 76:4.2 Eve did not suffer pain in childbirth; neither did the early evolutionary races. Only the mixed races produced by the union of evolutionary man with the Nodites and later with the Adamites suffered the severe pangs of childbirth.

    (851.1) 76:4.3 Adam and Eve, like their brethren on Jerusem, were energized by dual nutrition, subsisting on both food and light, supplemented by certain superphysical energies unrevealed on Urantia. Their Urantia offspring did not inherit the parental endowment of energy intake and light circulation. They had a single circulation, the human type of blood sustenance. They were designedly mortal though long-lived, albeit longevity gravitated toward the human norm with each succeeding generation.

    (851.2) 76:4.4 Adam and Eve and their first generation of children did not use the flesh of animals for food. They subsisted wholly upon “the fruits of the trees.” After the first generation all of the descendants of Adam began to partake of dairy products, but many of them continued to follow a nonflesh diet. Many of the southern tribes with whom they later united were also nonflesh eaters. Later on, most of these vegetarian tribes migrated to the east and survived as now admixed in the peoples of India.

    (851.3) 76:4.5 Both the physical and spiritual visions of Adam and Eve were far superior to those of the present-day peoples. Their special senses were much more acute, and they were able to see the midwayers and the angelic hosts, the Melchizedeks, and the fallen Prince Caligastia, who several times came to confer with his noble successor. They retained the ability to see these celestial beings for over one hundred years after the default. These special senses were not so acutely present in their children and tended to diminish with each succeeding generation.

    (851.4) 76:4.6 The Adamic children were usually Adjuster indwelt since they all possessed undoubted survival capacity. These superior offspring were not so subject to fear as the children of evolution. So much of fear persists in the present-day races of Urantia because your ancestors received so little of Adam’s life plasm, owing to the early miscarriage of the plans for racial physical uplift.

    (851.5) 76:4.7 The body cells of the Material Sons and their progeny are far more resistant to disease than are those of the evolutionary beings indigenous to the planet. The body cells of the native races are akin to the living disease-producing microscopic and ultramicroscopic organisms of the realm. These facts explain why the Urantia peoples must do so much by way of scientific effort to withstand so many physical disorders. You would be far more disease resistant if your races carried more of the Adamic life.

    (851.6) 76:4.8 After becoming established in the second garden on the Euphrates, Adam elected to leave behind as much of his life plasm as possible to benefit the world after his death. Accordingly, Eve was made the head of a commission of twelve on race improvement, and before Adam died this commission had selected 1,682 of the highest type of women on Urantia, and these women were impregnated with the Adamic life plasm. Their children all grew up to maturity except 112, so that the world, in this way, was benefited by the addition of 1,570 superior men and women. Though these candidate mothers were selected from all the surrounding tribes and represented most of the races on earth, the majority were chosen from the highest strains of the Nodites, and they constituted the early beginnings of the mighty Andite race. These children were born and reared in the tribal surroundings of their respective mothers.

    #371183
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    The Violet Race After the Days of Adam

    (868.1) 78:0.1 THE second Eden was the cradle of civilization for almost thirty thousand years. Here in Mesopotamia the Adamic peoples held forth, sending out their progeny to the ends of the earth, and latterly, as amalgamated with the Nodite and Sangik tribes, were known as the Andites. From this region went those men and women who initiated the doings of historic times, and who have so enormously accelerated cultural progress on Urantia.

    (868.2) 78:0.2 This paper depicts the planetary history of the violet race, beginning soon after the default of Adam, about 35,000 B.C., and extending down through its amalgamation with the Nodite and Sangik races, about 15,000 B.C., to form the Andite peoples and on to its final disappearance from the Mesopotamian homelands, about 2000 B.C………

    #371184
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    16 Then Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and settled in the land of Nod, east of Eden.

    17 Cain had relations with his wife and she conceived, and gave birth to Enoch; and he built a city, and called the name of the city Enoch, after the name of his son.

    (849.3) 76:2.9 And so Cain departed for the land of Nod, east of the second Eden. He became a great leader among one group of his father’s people and did, to a certain degree, fulfill the predictions of Serapatatia, for he did promote peace between this division of the Nodites and the Adamites throughout his lifetime. Cain married Remona, his distant cousin, and their first son, Enoch, became the head of the Elamite Nodites. And for hundreds of years the Elamites and the Adamites continued to be at peace.

    #372030
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    Oh yeah. This topic is open. I will research your claim and get back.

    #372923
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    Quote (t8 @ Mar. 01 2014,20:50)
    Oh yeah. This topic is open. I will research your claim and get back.


    Not holding my breath! :D

    #375021
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    Okay I just read the stuff above. It is fiction. What gives you the idea that this could be real. Anyone could write fiction like this, but that doesn't make it true.

    #375022
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    Whereas, Planet Ubu has more proof. You will eventually succumb to the greater revelation of Ubu. :D

    #375023
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    It is silly that Ubu and Urantia are competing. We would like to purchase Urantia for money and stock. We will then fold the two into one and change the name of Urantia to Ubu, and have you evangelise Ubu in like manner as Utantia. Any chance of selling?

    #381313
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    Quote (t8 @ Mar. 27 2014,11:24)
    Okay I just read the stuff above. It is fiction. What gives you the idea that this could be real. Anyone could write fiction like this, but that doesn't make it true.


    The preveous page had the link to the scientific findings that are consistent with what the UB is saying about the Y chromosome and the Microcephalin gene. That's what you were supposed to address.

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