Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1

[NickHassan]

Hi CNB,
Is Jesus our God”.
Funny that Jesus said in Jn 8
” 54Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:”

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 11 2007,08:44)

Hi CNB, Is Jesus our God”. Funny that Jesus said in Jn 8 ” 54Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:”

NH

Here is one way the Father honours Jesus…

Heb 1:
6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, *And let all the angels of God worship him.
7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
8 But unto the Son he saith, *Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever*: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

NH

Do you think the Angels committed Idolatry by worshipping the Son?

After all the scriptures say that we should *worship the Lord our God and him only should we serve*.

So do you honour the Son like the Father by calling him God?

Thomas gave us an example. John was an eye witness and wrote of it.

[NickHassan]

Hi W,
Would you apply rules made for men to our God?
Your God is too small.

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 11 2007,10:44)

Hi W, Would you apply rules made for men to our God? Your God is too small.

HUH?

[NickHassan]

Hi W,
Would you apply rules made for men to angels?
Your God is too small.

[NickHassan]

Hi W,
Would you apply rules made for men to heavenly angels?
Would you apply the earthly to the heavenly?
Your view of man is rather too large and
Your God is too small.

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 11 2007,11:18)

Hi W, Would you apply rules made for men to heavenly angels? Would you apply the earthly to the heavenly? Your view of man is rather too large and Your God is too small.

NH

And your view of Yeshua is to small!

The little puppet of the Father, right?

[NickHassan]

Hi W,
He is a man.
You can follow a man.

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 11 2007,12:46)

Hi W, He is a man. You can follow a man.

NH

I thought we are supposed to follow God.

“Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and *him only shalt thou serve*.”

So you are trying to follow a man who is in heaven?

What about following God who lives in us?

[NickHassan]

Hi W,
So Jesus is not your Lord?
Phil 2:11
And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 11 2007,13:48)

Hi W, So Jesus is not your Lord? Phil 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

NH

Jesus is My Lord and My God. Other wise I would be breaking the first commandment.

Romans 14:11
For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and *every tongue shall confess to God*.

How about you NH? How many Lords and masters do you have?

[NickHassan]

Hi W,
Then do you not know the God of Jesus?
He said TRUE WORSHIPERS will worship that God.

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 13 2007,17:37)

Hi W, Then do you not know the God of Jesus? He said TRUE WORSHIPERS will worship that God.

NH

Yes and I also know the Monogenes Son of God, who the Father honours as God and would have us do the same.

How about you NH?

Do you honour the Son as you honour the Father?

It is his commandment you know?

[NickHassan]

Hi W,
Does God worship Jesus or do I misunderstand you?
One God W, the Father of Jesus by His Spirit.

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 13 2007,19:31)

Hoi W, Does God worship Jesus or do I misunderstand you? One God W, the Father of Jesus by His Spirit.

NH

Answer a question with a question?

Does God glorify Jesus?

[NickHassan]

Hi w,
I am glad you appreciate that God is not Jesus.
God gives glory to whoever or whatever He chooses.
Even the sun and the moon and the stars have their given glory.[1Cor15]

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2007,11:09)

Hi w, I am glad you appreciate that God is not Jesus. God gives glory to whoever or whatever He chooses. Even the sun and the moon and the stars have their given glory.[1Cor15]

NH

Your Jesus is not my God.

My Jesus is Lord and God!

[NickHassan]

Hi W,
You say
“Does God glorify Jesus?”
If Jesus is your God who is the God you speak of here?

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2007,12:04)

Hi W, You say “Does God glorify Jesus?” If Jesus is your God who is the God you speak of here?

NH

Heb 1:8
*But unto the Son he (God) saith , Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever*: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the *Word was with God, and the Word was God*.

NH, you just rebuked charity for not believing Johns testimony, and yet you apparantly dont either.

Do you believe John when it only fits your doctrine?

Are you of those who turned back because Jesus had said some hard to be understood statements?

Jn 6:51
I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

Jn 6:60
Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, *This is an hard saying*; who can hear it?

Jn 6:64
But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

Jn 6:66
From that time *many of his disciples went back*, and walked no more with him.

Interesting how that for those who turned back the chapter and verse is “666”.

NH, there was a time that you believed these words in John 1:1.

When did you turn back and decide that Johns word was no longer true and that the Word who was God is no longer God?

You did tell me he was God NH! Who beguiled you?

I pray for you NH that you will return back to the one who saved you, the Lord and God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit!

[NickHassan]

Hi W,
John knew who Jesus is.
He was on the mountain when God told him.
And he believed him when he said he is the Son of God.
Do you?

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