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2besse,Quote Not some temporary one thousand years. Who says that the 1000 year kingdom is temporary?
We certainly didn't.
Haven't you read how Christ hands over the kingdom to His Father after the 1000 years expires?
That is not an end but a continuance.
So don't presume we believe it is temporary…you obviously haven't fully grasped what we have been saying.
Cyrus,Nov. wrote:[/quote]
Hi Cyrus,Quote HiYa, If the Great Tribulation, The Breaking of the Seven Seals & the Rapture associated with this doctrine, is a futureistic event and hasn't happened yet!!! It is impossible for the blood of Christ to avail for us and there is no everlasting New Testament Covenant. We do not preach rapture.
DEVO
Quote Haven't you read how Christ hands over the kingdom to His Father after the 1000 years expires? this is news to me ,could you show me the scripture(s) that says this
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 06 2013,02:13) DEVO Quote Haven't you read how Christ hands over the kingdom to His Father after the 1000 years expires? this is news to me ,could you show me the scripture(s) that says this
Hi Terra,1 Corinthians 15
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
So after Christ's 1000 year reign in His kingdom is fulfilled, He will hand a cleaned out kingdom back to His Father.
Quote (Devolution @ Nov. 05 2013,21:39) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 06 2013,02:13) DEVO Quote Haven't you read how Christ hands over the kingdom to His Father after the 1000 years expires? this is news to me ,could you show me the scripture(s) that says this
Hi Terra,1 Corinthians 15
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
So after Christ's 1000 year reign in His kingdom is fulfilled, He will hand a cleaned out kingdom back to His Father.
devothose scriptures you show are not taking place after the end of the millenium but after the end of the second resurrection (this could mean like a period of 40 years)and the war of gog and magog
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.
THIS IS THE SECOND RESURRECTION;
Rev 20:7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison
Rev 20:8 and will go out to deceive the nations(people from the second resurrection) in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore.then;
Rev 20:14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.
Rev 20:15 If anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.Rev 21:1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.
Rev 21:2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.THEN;
Rev 21:3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God.
NOW THIS IS DONE ;
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 06 2013,02:59) Quote (Devolution @ Nov. 05 2013,21:39) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 06 2013,02:13) DEVO Quote Haven't you read how Christ hands over the kingdom to His Father after the 1000 years expires? this is news to me ,could you show me the scripture(s) that says this
Hi Terra,1 Corinthians 15
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
So after Christ's 1000 year reign in His kingdom is fulfilled, He will hand a cleaned out kingdom back to His Father.
devothose scriptures you show are not taking place after the end of the millenium but after the end of the second resurrection (this could mean like a period of 40 years)and the war of gog and magog
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.
THIS IS THE SECOND RESURRECTION;
Rev 20:7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison
Rev 20:8 and will go out to deceive the nations(people from the second resurrection) in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore.then;
Rev 20:14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.
Rev 20:15 If anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.Rev 21:1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.
Rev 21:2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.THEN;
Rev 21:3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God.
NOW THIS IS DONE ;
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
T.1.First resurrection.
2.The 1000yr kingdom.
3.The battle of gog and magog.
4.The second resurrection.
5.White throne judgement.
6. Melting of earth.
7.God on earth.wakeup.
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Quote T.
1.First resurrection.
2.The 1000yr kingdom.
3.The battle of gog and magog.
4.The second resurrection.
5.White throne judgement.
6. Melting of earth.
7.God on earth.
1.First resurrection.
2.The 1000yr kingdom.
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4.The second resurrection.5.White throne judgement.
3.The battle of gog and magog 6. Melting of earth.
7.the lamb and his 144k (bride and groom) on earth.( those are the representation of God on earth
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 06 2013,11:24) w Quote T.
1.First resurrection.
2.The 1000yr kingdom.
3.The battle of gog and magog.
4.The second resurrection.
5.White throne judgement.
6. Melting of earth.
7.God on earth.
1.First resurrection.
2.The 1000yr kingdom.
.
4.The second resurrection.5.White throne judgement.
3.The battle of gog and magog 6. Melting of earth.
7.the lamb and his 144k (bride and groom) on earth.( those are the representation of God on earth
T.Scriptures please.
wakeup.
Pierre
I want to show you something. This is not secret knowledge because brothers share with each other and this is how the truth spreads. We are family don't forget.
Christ and his saints rule for a thousand years.
At the end of the 1000 years (millenium) Satan is released.
Then Gog and Magog will attack the camp of the saints.
NOTE AFTER THE 1000 YEARS, satan is released.
This will take time to gather the armies and make their way over to Israel to attack the camp of the saints, so how long till they attack exactly, we don't know.
What we do know is that when they DO attack the camp of the saints, they will be destroyed instantly. It will then take 7 years to bury the dead, and men will be employed to do this.
Then the White throne judgement, which consists of the 2nd resurrection, all the bad in the lake of fire, and finally death itself destroyed. Then the heavens and the earth will be melted and everything renewed.So Devo should of said, after the 1000 years, then Gog and Magog battle, then 7 years to bury the dead, but I think he was telling you in short.
If Christ and his saints are ruling for 1000 years, in the kingdom on earth, and the scripture can't be broken, a 1000 years is a 1000 years, then something happens at the end of it? right?
Could it be that after the 1000 years of teaching, that Christ and the saints leave that kingdom area. The Jews are fully trained now, the law still comes out of Jerusalem, the world has heard the truth, now time to test everyones faith.
When Gog attacks fire will come down from heaven by GOD himself, and Gog and his armies will be destroyed. Why isn't Christ destroying them? but God now.
Something we don't know, but little clues here and there. And Christ will hand over the kingdom to his Father when the last enemy is destroyed, and that is death. The last enemy destroyed does not happen at the end of the 1000 years, because I just showed you that more is to come (Gog and Magog, and the 7 years)
So something we don't know is going on here after the millenium and it looks contrary to us, but it's because we dont understand fully yet.To sum it up
Christ rules for a thousand years with his saints.
Where?
We know that answer, in Jerusalem.
But where do Christ and the Saints go after the thousand years?
Because the scripture clearly states that Christ will rule until all enemies are put under his feet, and this takes time after the 1000 years has ended.
and death is the last enemy to be destroyed,
but God kills Gog and Magog, not Christ.
We have to put our thinking caps on. The answer is not simple and clear yet, but if we seek we might find.Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 06 2013,14:54) Pierre I want to show you something. This is not secret knowledge because brothers share with each other and this is how the truth spreads. We are family don't forget.
Christ and his saints rule for a thousand years.
At the end of the 1000 years (millenium) Satan is released.
Then Gog and Magog will attack the camp of the saints.
NOTE AFTER THE 1000 YEARS, satan is released.
This will take time to gather the armies and make their way over to Israel to attack the camp of the saints, so how long till they attack exactly, we don't know.
What we do know is that when they DO attack the camp of the saints, they will be destroyed instantly. It will then take 7 years to bury the dead, and men will be employed to do this.
Then the White throne judgement, which consists of the 2nd resurrection, all the bad in the lake of fire, and finally death itself destroyed. Then the heavens and the earth will be melted and everything renewed.So Devo should of said, after the 1000 years, then Gog and Magog battle, then 7 years to bury the dead, but I think he was telling you in short.
If Christ and his saints are ruling for 1000 years, in the kingdom on earth, and the scripture can't be broken, a 1000 years is a 1000 years, then something happens at the end of it? right?
Could it be that after the 1000 years of teaching, that Christ and the saints leave that kingdom area. The Jews are fully trained now, the law still comes out of Jerusalem, the world has heard the truth, now time to test everyones faith.
When Gog attacks fire will come down from heaven by GOD himself, and Gog and his armies will be destroyed. Why isn't Christ destroying them? but God now.
Something we don't know, but little clues here and there. And Christ will hand over the kingdom to his Father when the last enemy is destroyed, and that is death. The last enemy destroyed does not happen at the end of the 1000 years, because I just showed you that more is to come (Gog and Magog, and the 7 years)
So something we don't know is going on here after the millenium and it looks contrary to us, but it's because we dont understand fully yet.To sum it up
Christ rules for a thousand years with his saints.
Where?
We know that answer, in Jerusalem.
But where do Christ and the Saints go after the thousand years?
Because the scripture clearly states that Christ will rule until all enemies are put under his feet, and this takes time after the 1000 years has ended.
and death is the last enemy to be destroyed,
but God kills Gog and Magog, not Christ.
We have to put our thinking caps on. The answer is not simple and clear yet, but if we seek we might find.
J42.Daniel 7:12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a *season and time*.
PROLONGED FOR A SEASON=1000YRS AND TIME:
1000YRS + TIME.After the war of gog people need to burry the dead.
And that takes *TIME*Jesus rule is over after the season is over.
wakeup.
Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 06 2013,09:54) Pierre I want to show you something. This is not secret knowledge because brothers share with each other and this is how the truth spreads. We are family don't forget.
Christ and his saints rule for a thousand years.
At the end of the 1000 years (millenium) Satan is released.
Then Gog and Magog will attack the camp of the saints.
NOTE AFTER THE 1000 YEARS, satan is released.
This will take time to gather the armies and make their way over to Israel to attack the camp of the saints, so how long till they attack exactly, we don't know.
What we do know is that when they DO attack the camp of the saints, they will be destroyed instantly. It will then take 7 years to bury the dead, and men will be employed to do this.
Then the White throne judgement, which consists of the 2nd resurrection, all the bad in the lake of fire, and finally death itself destroyed. Then the heavens and the earth will be melted and everything renewed.So Devo should of said, after the 1000 years, then Gog and Magog battle, then 7 years to bury the dead, but I think he was telling you in short.
If Christ and his saints are ruling for 1000 years, in the kingdom on earth, and the scripture can't be broken, a 1000 years is a 1000 years, then something happens at the end of it? right?
Could it be that after the 1000 years of teaching, that Christ and the saints leave that kingdom area. The Jews are fully trained now, the law still comes out of Jerusalem, the world has heard the truth, now time to test everyones faith.
When Gog attacks fire will come down from heaven by GOD himself, and Gog and his armies will be destroyed. Why isn't Christ destroying them? but God now.
Something we don't know, but little clues here and there. And Christ will hand over the kingdom to his Father when the last enemy is destroyed, and that is death. The last enemy destroyed does not happen at the end of the 1000 years, because I just showed you that more is to come (Gog and Magog, and the 7 years)
So something we don't know is going on here after the millenium and it looks contrary to us, but it's because we dont understand fully yet.To sum it up
Christ rules for a thousand years with his saints.
Where?
We know that answer, in Jerusalem.
But where do Christ and the Saints go after the thousand years?
Because the scripture clearly states that Christ will rule until all enemies are put under his feet, and this takes time after the 1000 years has ended.
and death is the last enemy to be destroyed,
but God kills Gog and Magog, not Christ.
We have to put our thinking caps on. The answer is not simple and clear yet, but if we seek we might find.
j42do yourself a favor, take a piece of paper and a pencil,
go in the book of Revelation and start to write down ,what is coming before the millennium and what comes after ,then understand what other scriptures are saying and make adjustments,
the second resurrection as to be before the war of gog and Magog because those are the people that provoking it ,
and so the final time of judgment is at that time when those rebels will be destroyed by Christ and his army ,and Satan all thrown in the lake of fire, followed by dead being thrown in the lake of fire ,
Paul mention that the final enemy his “dead” so we can now understand that with that action all is done ;and now the Christ is turning himself into submission to his father and God ,and so the heavenly Jerusalem can now come down from heaven and be with men ,and God will now create new things ,
Quote (Devolution @ Nov. 06 2013,03:29) 2besee,Nov. wrote:[/quote]
2besse,Quote Not some temporary one thousand years. Who says that the 1000 year kingdom is temporary?
We certainly didn't.
Haven't you read how Christ hands over the kingdom to His Father after the 1000 years expires?
That is not an end but a continuance.
So don't presume we believe it is temporary…you obviously haven't fully grasped what we have been saying.
Devolution,Once upon a time I used to post here, way back nearer the beginning – and it was good.
(deleted paragraph)
Oh by the way I'm a woman, did you know that?
I sense the spirit behind anything.
(As woman often do).I'm going to go somewhere else – oh, the real world. Where at least people talk face to face, and with more respect.
Bye bye.
And to whomever concerns (you will know who you are).
A message I was shown last night.
Jesus to the Church in Ephesus (Revelations 2)
“‘I know your works, your toil and your patient endurance, and how you cannot bear evil men but have tested those who call themselves apostles but are not, and found them to be false; I know you are enduring patiently and bearing up for my name’s sake, and you have not grown weary.
But I have this against you, that you have abandoned the love you had at first.
Remember then from what you have fallen, repent and do the works you did at first.
If not, I will come to you and remove your
lampstand from its place”.j42
Quote Christ and his saints rule for a thousand years. yes this is true but on who
all the first resurrection are one resurrection but two location ,one for heaven (144k) and all others on earth ;and that is on who the Christ and his 144k will rule for a 1000 years ;think , Moses the promised land the crossing of the Jordan river, God guiding through MosesQuote (2besee @ Nov. 07 2013,06:41) Quote (Devolution @ Nov. 06 2013,03:29) Quote (2besee @ Nov. 05 2013,07:07)
2besse,Quote Not some temporary one thousand years. Who says that the 1000 year kingdom is temporary?
We certainly didn't.
Haven't you read how Christ hands over the kingdom to His Father after the 1000 years expires?
That is not an end but a continuance.
So don't presume we believe it is temporary…you obviously haven't fully grasped what we have been saying.
Devolution,Once upon a time I used to post here, way back nearer the beginning – and it was good.
(deleted paragraph)
Oh by the way I'm a woman, did you know that?
I sense the spirit behind anything.
(As woman often do).I'm going to go somewhere else – oh, the real world. Where at least people talk face to face, and with more respect.
Bye bye.
2Besee.When the kichen gets too hot;leave.
Wher the carccas is; there the eagels will be gathered.
wakeup.
Wakeup, Not too hot for me.
I had a dream last night, can't quite remember it. I saw love hearts, each with a different pattern and colors, one, then a different bigger one behind that, and a bigger one behind that, and so on. And something about sheep.
Anyway… It's not that I have no answers to your posts. It's just that I know what I have been shown. For every OT verse you give, I can say they have been mostly fulfilled, and take you to the NT. But we've done that already!
Quote (2besee @ Nov. 08 2013,07:07) Wakeup, Not too hot for me. I had a dream last night, can't quite remember it. I saw love hearts, each with a different pattern and colors, one, then a different bigger one behind that, and a bigger one behind that, and so on. And something about sheep.
Anyway… It's not that I have no answers to your posts. It's just that I know what I have been shown. For every OT verse you give, I can say they have been mostly fulfilled, and take you to the NT. But we've done that already!
2Besee.Can you show us scripture?
That they are fulfilled?wakeup.
Quote (2besee @ Nov. 07 2013,06:41) Quote (Devolution @ Nov. 06 2013,03:29) Quote (2besee @ Nov. 05 2013,07:07)
2besse,Quote Not some temporary one thousand years. Who says that the 1000 year kingdom is temporary?
We certainly didn't.
Haven't you read how Christ hands over the kingdom to His Father after the 1000 years expires?
That is not an end but a continuance.
So don't presume we believe it is temporary…you obviously haven't fully grasped what we have been saying.
Devolution,Once upon a time I used to post here, way back nearer the beginning – and it was good.
(deleted paragraph)
Oh by the way I'm a woman, did you know that?
I sense the spirit behind anything.
(As woman often do).I'm going to go somewhere else – oh, the real world. Where at least people talk face to face, and with more respect.
Bye bye.
2Besee,Again, we do not preach that the 1000 year kingdom is temporary as YOU have been claiming.
Don't get so upset.
Quote (2besee @ Nov. 08 2013,07:07) Wakeup, Not too hot for me. I had a dream last night, can't quite remember it. I saw love hearts, each with a different pattern and colors, one, then a different bigger one behind that, and a bigger one behind that, and so on. And something about sheep.
Anyway… It's not that I have no answers to your posts. It's just that I know what I have been shown. For every OT verse you give, I can say they have been mostly fulfilled, and take you to the NT. But we've done that already!
Trusting in your own dreams over scripture is dangerous ground indeed, not mentioning very vain.Ecclesiastes 5:7 For in the multitude of dreams and many words there are also divers vanities: but fear thou God.
Jeremiah 23:27 Which think to cause my people to forget my name by their dreams which they tell every man to his neighbour, as their fathers have forgotten my name for Baal.
Jeremiah 23:32 Behold, I am against them that prophesy false dreams, saith the LORD, and do tell them, and cause my people to err by their lies, and by their lightness; yet I sent them not, nor commanded them: therefore they shall not profit this people at all, saith the LORD.
Jeremiah 29:8 For thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Let not your prophets and your diviners, that be in the midst of you, deceive you, neither hearken to your dreams which ye cause to be dreamed.
Quote (Devolution @ Nov. 06 2013,03:29) Quote (2besee @ Nov. 05 2013,07:07)
2besse,Quote Not some temporary one thousand years. Who says that the 1000 year kingdom is temporary?
We certainly didn't.
Haven't you read how Christ hands over the kingdom to His Father after the 1000 years expires?
That is not an end but a continuance.
So don't presume we believe it is temporary…you obviously haven't fully grasped what we have been saying.
I was NOT addressing you, I was speaking to somebody else (Cyrus).
Do your see your name mentioned ANYWHERE on the original post two pages back? No.*
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