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I have heard good arguments for the Tribulation being pre mid and post. I watched this video today and thought it made a good argument. It is post trib. Although I wonder if they have confused the second coming with the rapture.
Quote (t8 @ Mar. 05 2013,20:16) I have heard good arguments for the Tribulation being pre mid and post. I watched this video today and thought it made a good argument. It is post trib. Although I wonder if they have confused teh second coming with the rapture.
The 144000 would be taken up first.
The rest needs to be purified by fire;go through the great tribulation first.
The majority has to make a definite decision,take the mark or reject it. After the tribulation,they also will be taken up.He who saves his life will loose it, and he who loses his life for my sake will find life.
wakeup.
Quote (t8 @ Mar. 05 2013,20:16) I have heard good arguments for the Tribulation being pre mid and post. I watched this video today and thought it made a good argument. It is post trib. Although I wonder if they have confused teh second coming with the rapture.
Hi T8,He seems to be calling the resurrection: “the rapture”.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Wakeup @ Mar. 05 2013,07:27) Quote (t8 @ Mar. 05 2013,20:16) I have heard good arguments for the Tribulation being pre mid and post. I watched this video today and thought it made a good argument. It is post trib. Although I wonder if they have confused teh second coming with the rapture.
The 144000 would be taken up first.
The rest needs to be purified by fire;go through the great tribulation first.
The majority has to make a definite decision,take the mark or reject it. After the tribulation,they also will be taken up.He who saves his life will loose it, and he who loses his life for my sake will find life.
wakeup.
Hi All,Rom.8:18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us. 19For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God. 20For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of him who subjected it, in hope 21that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage of corruption and obtain the freedom of the glory of the children of God. 22For we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now. 23And not only the creation, but we ourselves, who HAVE the FIRSTFRUITS of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies.
2Cor5:14 For Christ’s love compels us, because we are convinced that one died for all, and therefore ALL died. 15And he died for all, that those who live should no longer live for themselves but for him who died for them and was raised again.
16So from now on we regard no one from a worldly point of view. Though we once regarded Christ in this way, we do so no longer. 17Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a NEW CREATION; the old has gone, the NEW has come.Peace brothers.
Quote (t8 @ Mar. 05 2013,20:16) I have heard good arguments for the Tribulation being pre mid and post. I watched this video today and thought it made a good argument. It is post trib. Although I wonder if they have confused teh second coming with the rapture.
I really enjoyed this video.Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 06 2013,03:22) (video quote)
Hi T8,He seems to be calling the resurrection: “the rapture”.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
But He's right: there is no “pre-Trib-Rapture”.Because there is no Rapture and there is no 7 year Tribulation period.
Reason for edit: I edited out “the video quote” – as it is clear to what I reference.
Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 06 2013,20:41) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 06 2013,03:22)
Hi T8,He seems to be calling the resurrection: “the rapture”.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
But He's right: there is no “pre-Trib-Rapture”.Because there is no Rapture and there is no 7 year Tribulation period.
Religions 'brain-bondo' has invented many FALSE DOCTRINES.Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 06 2013,20:41) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 06 2013,03:22) (video quote)
Hi T8,He seems to be calling the resurrection: “the rapture”.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
But He's right: there is no “pre-Trib-Rapture”.Because there is no Rapture and there is no 7 year Tribulation period.
Reason for edit: I edited out “the video quote” – as it is clear to what I reference.
EDJ.He agreed that there is no such word as rapture used in the bible.
But the concept is there.
The meeting with the Lord in the air.The rapture(resurrection) will only happen at the second coming; after the great tribulation.
What say you?
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 06 2013,20:59) EDJ. He agreed that there is no such word as rapture used in the bible.
But the concept is there.
The meeting with the Lord in the air.The rapture(resurrection) will only happen at the second coming; after the great tribulation.
What say you?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,The resurrection will not happen until “AFTER” you die, not while you are still alive.
And Jesus second coming occurred (in spirit form) on the day of “Pentecost”.Quote (abe @ Mar. 06 2013,04:40) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 05 2013,07:27) Quote (t8 @ Mar. 05 2013,20:16) I have heard good arguments for the Tribulation being pre mid and post. I watched this video today and thought it made a good argument. It is post trib. Although I wonder if they have confused teh second coming with the rapture.
The 144000 would be taken up first.
The rest needs to be purified by fire;go through the great tribulation first.
The majority has to make a definite decision,take the mark or reject it. After the tribulation,they also will be taken up.He who saves his life will loose it, and he who loses his life for my sake will find life.
wakeup.
Hi All,Rom.8:18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us. 19For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God. 20For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of him who subjected it, in hope 21that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage of corruption and obtain the freedom of the glory of the children of God. 22For we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now. 23And not only the creation, but we ourselves, who HAVE the FIRSTFRUITS of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies.
2Cor5:14 For Christ’s love compels us, because we are convinced that one died for all, and therefore ALL died. 15And he died for all, that those who live should no longer live for themselves but for him who died for them and was raised again.
16So from now on we regard no one from a worldly point of view. Though we once regarded Christ in this way, we do so no longer. 17Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a NEW CREATION; the old has gone, the NEW has come.Peace brothers.
Abe.Revelation 7:13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
Revelation 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, *THESE ARE THEY WHICH CAME OUT OF GREAT TRIBULATION, AND HAVE WASHED THEIR ROBES*, and *MADE* them white in the blood of the Lamb.
(THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH THE FIRE AND MADE WHITE).Revelation 7:15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.
Revelation 7:16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.
Revelation 7:17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.
IT IS THE LAMB THAT WILL FEED THEM,BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT BEEN FED DURING THEIR CHRISTIAN LIFE.
BUT THE 144000 HAVE BEEN FEEDING THEMSELVES DURING
THEIR LIFE,THEREFORE BEING THE FIRST FRIUTS.wakeup.
Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 06 2013,18:12) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 06 2013,20:59) EDJ. He agreed that there is no such word as rapture used in the bible.
But the concept is there.
The meeting with the Lord in the air.The rapture(resurrection) will only happen at the second coming; after the great tribulation.
What say you?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,The resurrection will happen “AFTER” you die, not while you are still alive.
And Jesus second coming occurred (in spirit form) on the day of “Pentecost”.
1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are STILL ALIVE and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.Quote (seekingtruth @ Mar. 06 2013,21:37) 1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are STILL ALIVE and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.
Hi Wm,Then you agree with me then that meeting in the air is not a Rapture of any sort, right?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 06 2013,21:58) Quote (seekingtruth @ Mar. 06 2013,21:37) 1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are STILL ALIVE and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.
Hi Wm,Then you agree with me then that meeting in the air is not a Rapture of any sort, right?
God bless
Ed J
Hi Wm,People were thinking “the Day of Christ” was at hand because of 1Thess.4:16. (ref. 2Thess 2:2)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 06 2013,21:58) Quote (seekingtruth @ Mar. 06 2013,21:37) 1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are STILL ALIVE and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.
Hi Wm,Then you agree with me then that meeting in the air is not a Rapture of any sort, right?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.The meeting with the Lord in the air will happen.
Some call it the rapture,thats fine.
But not before the tribulation.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,
Meeting the Lord Jesus Christ in the air, happens when
one repents of their sins and two is “Born Again”
by being baptized with God's HolySpirit.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 06 2013,22:32) Hi Wakeup, Meeting the Lord Jesus Christ in the air, happens when
one repents of their sins and two is “Born Again”
by being baptized with God's HolySpirit.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.You obviously has met the Lord in the air?
To you the air would be your mind.In that case I also have met the Lord in the air of my mind.
But I will also meet him in the air again;and this time
it is going to be real; not only me,but many with me,all together, in that day.Not only the living, but the dead also.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 06 2013,22:49) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 06 2013,22:32) Hi Wakeup, Meeting the Lord Jesus Christ in the air, happens when
one repents of their sins and two is “Born Again”
by being baptized with God's HolySpirit.God bless
Ed J
EDJ.You obviously has met the Lord in the air?
To you the air would be your mind.In that case I also have met the Lord in the air of my mind.
But I will also meet him in the air again;and this time
it is going to be real; not only me,but many with me,all together, in that day.Not only the living, but the dead also.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Why are you continually trying to put words in my mouth?
“Air” is what we breath while we are alive.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 06 2013,22:32) Hi Wakeup, Meeting the Lord Jesus Christ in the air, happens when
one repents of their sins and two is “Born Again”
by being baptized with God's HolySpirit.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdJ.Scriptures please?
wakeup.
Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 06 2013,18:58) Quote (seekingtruth @ Mar. 06 2013,21:37) 1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are STILL ALIVE and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.
Hi Wm,Then you agree with me then that meeting in the air is not a Rapture of any sort, right?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed J,
No I don't, I was commenting on your statement “The resurrection will happen “AFTER” you die, not while you are still alive”. I'm not sure how you see your teaching fits with scripture.Wm
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